Why aren't you using an eGPU?

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>>59648551
because how

>>59648551
because it runs at x1 or x4,

>>59648551
because what

>>59648551
Because I'm waiting for my adapter to come in the mail

>>59648551
Because I play games.

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>>59648551
Because why

Because I don't know what is in that setup to use on my own thinkpad

>>59648583
This

x1 actually

lmao

how do you not feel retarded doing that OP

>>59648583
When is this actually a problem? In most games when I've looked at nVidia's control panel, the PCI-E link utilization is well below 10%.

>>59648611
Because it makes you able to play gayms on laptops that don't have a dGPU.

>>59648664
x4 is still mantainable, x1 is streching it

>>59648551
I wanna try but there aren't any cheap trusty ones in aliexpress

>>59648708
EXP GDC Beast 8.4d

Why don't they make laptops with a little PCI-E slot on the side the size of an SD Card slot, like a new day expresscard.

>>59648699
How do you know? Have you tested it?

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is that windows 10?

Because I have an actual desktop for gaymen/Solidworks.

>inb4 laptop master bait
>inb4 muh portability

>costs 2x as much or more for similar performance
>1 screen, 17" max
>can't use it to its potential if it's not plugged in and set on a flat surface
>upgradability is severely limited

>>59648753
It's called Thunderbolt.

>>59648767
nvm

because im not a fucking idiot?

>>59648564
>>59648633
Get a cheap pci powered gpu, a pe4c or gdc, a laptop power brick and hook it up.

>>59648583
>>59648633
It depends on the laptop. Doesn't matter that much on a lower spec card anyways.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5458/the-radeon-hd-7970-reprise-pcie-bandwidth-overclocking-and-msaa
>not bottlenecked until pci2x4

>>59648929
I know this is a stupid question but can I hook up an eGPU to a 2011 MacBook Pro through the Thunderbolt port? If so, can I then hook two extra displays to said GPU? I want the ability to have more browser windows open for easier shitposting.

>>59648551
It's faster if you use external display. (hooked to the card
)

>>59648551
because it'll get bottlenecked by your ancient c2d CPU, why not just build a gaming pc if you wanna play games?

It's not even portable.

https://egpu.io/external-gpu-buyers-guide-2017/

Because you still have CPU sticker on your laptop

>>59648743

you mean this thingy?

https://aliexpress.com/store/product/Mini-PCIe-to-PCI-e-16X-Riser-with-SATA-to-IDE-Molex-Power-Cord-USB-3/1087029_32800079341.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10065_10068_703_10136_10137_701_10060_10138_10062_10141_203_10056_10055_10054_10059_124_10099_10103_10102_10096_10144_10052_10053_10142_10107_10050_10143_10051_10525_10527_10529_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10110_10111_10112_10113_10114_10516_10515_10519_10078_10079_10073_10070_10122_10123_10124,searchweb201603_1,afswitch_1,ppcSwitch_5,single_sort_0_default&btsid=f9290925-4db3-479d-acb8-db8e49b1d908&algo_expid=62ca84d5-1227-4119-8d8c-c93904c5fc7c-0&algo_pvid=62ca84d5-1227-4119-8d8c-c93904c5fc7c

>>59648551
does that seriously require a 5V and 12V DC connection?

>Let me just plug in my laptop to play wow
>*forgot powerstrip*
>takes up one standard outlet plus has a cord hanging halfway across the room to take up another half outlet

I'll stick to my 840m kthx

>>59649158
>Let me just plug in my laptop to play wow

But WoW can already play well on integrated laptop graphics...

>>59649019
Yes. There are much neater thunderbolt docks.

>>59649179
with 1990's graphicsquality maybe...

>>59648686
I have a desktop and only use my laptop for uni word editing and anime

>>59649179
You think someone who spent money on shit they didn't need would not use it every chance they got?

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FUCKING POORFAGS LMAO

>>59648551
Whenever I feel like gaming on my laptop I just use steam in-home streaming, it just werks

>>59649233
A sign of autism is lack of empathy anon

>>59648551
I'm about to move to US for 4 months and can only bring my laptop. Could I set up my 980ti as an eGPU?

>>59649246
>LOL LOOK AT ME WRITING IN ALL CAPS
>I PAID TWICE AS MUCH AS YOU WHICH MAKES ME RICH
>NOT EVERYONE CAN AFFORD BASIC OFF THE SHELF GAYMER SHIT LIKE ME
>SPOON FEED ME MOMMY RAZER
>HUE HUE HUE

No reason to, my desktop has a sufficient GPU for the one game I play and I'm more than content with the iGPU in my laptop

>>59649360
I mean I'm not a huge fan of razer, but the core is a legitimately good product, even though the price is higher than the competitions solutions.

>>59649117
https://aliexpress.com/store/product/Mini-PCIe-to-PCI-e-16X-Riser-with-SATA-to-IDE-Molex-Power-Cord-USB-3/1087029_32800079341.html

>>59649532
To reinforce my point:

https://www.akitio.com/expansion/node is 200 dollars cheaper, and doesnt have USB ports (big deal)

>>59648551
Because I'm not a gaymer.

>>59649082
>it'll get bottlenecked by your ancient c2d CPU
no it won't, that's complete horse shit

>>59649542
How do these minipcie to 16x adapters that transfer data over usb 3 cables even work? A usb 3 cable has 9 pins and I'm sure a minipcie connector has more data lines than that.

i Have a gtx 770 laying around, what do i need for this
have a thinkpad t420

>>59649865
http://www.owen-lu.com/egpu/

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the only good game is brood war, so why would I defeat the point of a laptop's portability with this level of autism?

>>59649865
If you can't figure out an egpu dock, atx psu and the appropriate driver, how are you going to assemble it?

>>59649902
Research

>>59649890
Thanks mate

You don't need a GPU to play Dwarf Fortress.

>>59649925
You could technically connect a Xeon Phi to one of these adapters and it would probably work. PCIe 2.0 x1 would probably hurt it a LOT though.

>>59649833
Probably doesn't use unnecessary lanes. I'd imagine power isn't necessary since you're powering the card externally and there's a few such as the JTAG lane that can most likely be left disconnected as well.

>>59649971
I've been wanting to pair a Xeon Phi with an Atom N270 netbook for quite some time. Never get around to buying one though.

>>59650126
You could use the Atom N270 netbook's MiniPCIe and ExpressCard at the same time to have both an external CPU and GPU.

>>59650162
No ExpressCard slot

>>59650162
Also the Phi's not a CPU, it's a coprocessor

>>59650175
I was under the impression you boot to it and then it's used as the main CPU.
>>59650168
What a shame. It would be hilarious to see a netbook set up like that, because it serves absolutely no purpose.

>>59650201
No, it's actually a Linux computer on a PCIe card, and some day, the Phi alone will be pretty funny with a netbook

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>>59648551

Because the Surface Pro 4 has no support for it even though the dock connector has the bandwidth.

Plus I have a desktop. Why would I bother?

>>59648551
because mobile GTX 1050 is enough for my needs. Also eGPU isn't mobile, which makes it useless to me.

>>59650162
no you couldn't
first of, no bios support. Secondly, all Atoms have only USB pinout in minipcie ports specifically for WiFi and WWAN support.

>>59649971
DF is single core.

>>59648583
x1 gen2, 5Gbps
It's only usable due to bandwidth compression, but it still limits 750Ti performance by about 25% if we talk about external 1920x1200 screen connected via HDMI. On internal screen it is limited by 50% due to optimus, and it's also almost unusable due to optimus frame copy-pasting delays.
Also it's pointless to invest in this shit unless you're extremely poor and can't get a laptop with decent dGPU or just desktop computer dedicated for gayming or gayming + steam streaming, so you can hide your PC anywhere and gaym on your shitpad via ethernet/ac network.

>>59650554
not any more i don't think

>>59648551
because I leave my gpu in the case of my computer??

Doesn't this require a special BIOS update to work with certain machines?

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Because it's hit and miss.
>inb4 werks on my machine :)
Yeah well I don't have the same machine and would rather not deal with shady drivers from an obscure forum and low level software to make it run. Bandwidth and noise are two problems that might affect only certain games or under weird circumstances, but if you're idea of gaming machine is troubleshooting with shots in the dark then go ahead and get an egpu.

>>59651602
yep, with some laptops
others need you to run something to reallocate memory or something like that and its paid software

>>59651631
It's a novel idea but I suppose it would be cheaper just to get a dedicated gaming machine (console, steam machine whatever)

>>59651656
not at all, it is a bit cheaper to do this even assuming you dont already have a gpu and psu lying around but imho not worth the risk, plus that is if you use the internal screen which will make it even slower, with an external screen the price gap closes a bit more

>>59648551
Because there's no use case on the planet that requires more than a 1050 in a laptop that come in any decent new 15 inch laptop and using an eGPU defeats the entire purpose of a laptop when you have to lug around a bunch of extra shit. Even the cheapest gaymer laptop, like the Inspiron 15 that costs $950 for the i7 and 1050 Ti, and you can build a desktop with a i5 7600k and 1070 for that money.

I am thinking about just getting something like the XPS 13 and just docking it when I'm at home and hooking up an eGPU and getting rid of my desktop, but it's not a very cost effective solution just yet.

They say it got shitty bandwidth on my m4600

because i run a desktop and that would be incredibly idiotic

>>59648551
How are prices looking for an adaptor plus GPU housing? Last I looked it was pretty expensive.

>>59648551
Because I have a proper computer.

>>59651799
>when you have to lug around a bunch of extra shit
>I have never heard the concept of a docking station
Didn't know stupid came in your flavor

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>>59648551
I don't need that poorfag shit.

>>59652632
How does a docking station not qualify as "extra shit you need to lug around"? And what's the purpose of having a laptop, a portable machine, if you have to be tethered to a wall to be able to use it to its fullest extent?

>>59650556
You can actually play on Wireless-N as well.

I stream to my MBP over WiFi-N and I get a constant 50mbps /15ms latency through steam. Effective bandwidth hovers around 150-225mbps.

>>59649360
caps is cruise control for cool

>>59652651
your computer has fallen over.

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i am not autistic enough to frankenstein my x220

>>59652651
hahaha what a faggot normie
gtfo

>>59650126
can i change the usb-mini-pcie to a usb-usb? can the card work?

because that egpu cable costs too much
just buy a better laptop or a fucking pc

Considering getting one for my T420 just so i can run 3 external monitors and the internal display.

>>59648551
I do it and it works alright. If you temper your expectations a bit and already have the card/compatible laptop on hand, an egpu setup *can* make sense. Very important is understanding and accepting that it's not going to turn your grimy ebay thinkpad into a fucking alienware. More games will be *playable*, where the igpu would normally laugh and spit in your face.

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>>59653131
haven't encountered this phrase in years

>>59648929
>not bottlenecked until pci2x4
Only a minority of games were, though.

>>59648898
>this

>>59650126
>Probably doesn't use unnecessary lanes.
But there are only three differential pairs in a USB3 cable (counting the USB2 data lines, which may well be lower quality). How can they transfer 4 PCIe lanes like that?

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>going to be overseas for at least a few years (maybe longer)
>no way am I going to build even a budget gaming PC over there unless I know I'll be in one place for at least 5 years
>looking for Thunderbolt 3 laptops so if I want to do some gaming, I can just get an eGPU and a card over there
>tfw they're all chiclet keyboard ultrabook shits
>tfw thinking about just using my X220 with an expresscard eGPU

>>59654777
Go for it, it's probably one of the best options

>>59648772
>>59648898
>>59649233
>>59649506
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>>59652604
This, all of this. I don't really see the use-case if you have a desktop. And if you're going to drag a laptop with a huge GPU box around then you might as well bring the a desktop computer. The whole concept seems silly.

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>>59654777
It really works anon, my X230 runs vidya like a dream 75% performance of my GTX770. I have to use a strange, slightly inconvenient workaround for code 12 (unplug monitor before I start the machine, than replug it once I'm at the desktop.) but once my laptop's on it's literally like how my desktop was with the same card. Feels like I'm sat at a full power desktop even though I just press the eject button on my mini dock and I can pick it up and take it to lectures. Literally the best of both worlds.

I found a t420 (i5 with 500 gb hdd) I bought off of ebay for 115, is that a good price? It seemed in good condition with just a screen scratch and a cracked corner bezel, or so they said. I was wondering if I could still install Linux with a possible bios password? I'm guessing not

>>59657277
There's a tool you could buy to remove the bios password, but it really isn't worth the time / money. Just get one that isn't locked.

because i prefer to have my components in an ATX case and use a 24" monitor

>>59648551
>750 ti
Trash it.

>>59655932
Can you run newer games on it?

t. dude with a T430

>>59648551
I felt for this meme too. You will be better with entry level rig with this frankenconfig.

>>59657643
It's ok.