If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.

>>59643031
Narcissism.

I don't know. Can you please post your social security number (or equivalent if not a US citizen), your full contact details, your phone number, a timestamped image of you holding your ID with your sexual organ visible, your credit/debit card details, all your bank accounts and all your online accounts with login information?

> Followed by someone less law abiding

> Wants to help those that try to escape corrupt governments

> Some care for privacy

Privacy.

>>59643031
Google your fucking argument. It's been debunked more times than you have brain cells. Find retorts to the counterarguments and come back.

>>59643452
>leddit tier argument
lol

>>59643031
yes, you want the rest of the world to be free and don't like the government

>>59643031
Hahaha, nice one, dictator!

>>59643844
>Glenn Greenwald argument
>I was only pretending to be retarded!

>>59643031
I use Tor to access to my emails because my email provider provides a hidden service with an extended validation certificate, which is comfy, and I want to make the Tor network stronger.

>>59643031
Obvious bait.

>>59643844
Why can't you just provide the information I requested? Do you have something to hide?

>>59643031
I have shitloads to hide.

fuck you faggot.

>>59643031
(You)

Wait why tho srsly, libitards aside... the onion chans are like being back in fucking dialup days but worse.

Used to use it for porn when i was younger because of family friendly browsing or something

>>59644048
/thread

>>59643031
>If you have nothing to hide,
I don't want people to see my dickpics. Problem?

>>59643031
I live in the US, a corporatocratic country. Here ISPs can spy on people without any repercussion. Because I dislike the idea of a private company invading my privacy I think using Tor makes a lot of sense, am I wrong?

The real problem is, you don't actually know what you would need to hide.Opinions vary, you could have a lynch mob after for practically anything these days.All of those people you don't see eye to eye with politically? They could spin anything against you.

>>59643031
To buy drugs off silkroad, idiot

>>59643031
>Any reason a law abiding person would want to use Tor?
No.

I am yet to see a good, non-ideological counterargument to "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear".

>>59643031
Is the US Navy not a set of law abiding citizens?

>>59644223
To communicate with someone in a strict country like Iran.Now you have an answer.Please refrain from posting this nonsense ever again.

>>59644400
fuck off terrorist

>>59643031
It's like saying
You don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.

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>>59643031

Half of the world is going to war against privacy, everywhere laws pop up that restric rights and make finding people online much easier: in the "5-eyes" coutries, the diamond shield in china, almost everywhere nowadays.

At the same time world politics go mad, half of europe tries to establish dictator ship (poland, hungary, turkey just to name a few), the maghreb is fucked, africa is struggling with terrorists everywhere, in south america a former drugster contract killer is going to become president, arabia is completely nuts, not talking about china, russia put thousand of people into prison just yesterday, the US is not doing to well right now..


And you seriously ask me, why we should start defending our privacy?!?!?


Dude, Skynet is close.
You better be prepared.

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Everyone has something to hide, prove me wrong.
protip: you can't

>>59644651
agree i ought to hidde my dickpicks.
and my scat porn.

>>59643031
>Following the law is more important than following basic moral principles
How does it feel to be retarded?

>>59644696
>your whole post
I wish more people were like you anon

>>59644223
To protect against an irresponsible government

There's no evidence (AFAIK) of the US government using private information for authoritarian purposes, but they have the tools to do so

Too much privacy enables criminals and degenerates. I can't wait till you leftist cucks get shot by cops, you deserve to die. Trump is completely in the right to secure backdoors only the government can use.

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>>59644153
>Here ISPs can spy on people without any repercussion
I went to the drycleaners and they're allowed to spy on what clothes I wear
I went to a restaurant and they're allowed to spy on what food I eat
I studied at University and they're allowed to spy on what I'm interested in
I went to the library and they're allowed to spy on what books I check out
I went to the hairdresser and they're allowed to spy on what hairstyle I have
I used the post office and they're allowed to spy on what kind of packages I receive
I called an
I used a service and the service provider saw the peripheral of what relevant thing of mine they were operating on.

Le draconian laws
Le 1984
Le harry potter/star wars reference

>>59644811
Don't worry, he'll be killed soon. The government had the right to monitor degenerates. Kill all privacy cucks and kill all linux cucks. Whites cannot thrive if they are still alive.

>>59643452
What a shitty arguement.

I wouldn''t post all that information because I don't want to get my identity stolen, not because I have something to hide.

To check symptoms of a medical issue without havin my data sold to medical insurance companies and possibly having my premiums go up during the next renewal cycle.

>>59644811
The post office doesn't tell the world what you got in your mail, the dry cleaner doesn't tell everyone what you're wearing, restaurants don't log your eating habits and hand this information over to the highest bidder...

It's not about the ISP seeing what I'm doing. It's about my ISP seeing what I'm doing and then making this information available to whomever has the money for it

I don't know why I put effort in a response to a troll but it's too late now

>>59644876
It's obvious you're trying to hide degenerate porn. Cops are going to be hired to kill you, you deserve nothing short of a bullet in the head.

>>59644811
Whew, retard alert!
Do any of these institutions know content of your pockets? Do they know what's in your home? Do they know and can use your conversations with others, against you?

If you control private lives, you can make influence on people to your liking.
That is not a democratic way.

Fuck off nazi.

>>59644911
>mob rule is better than communism
They're both shit.

>>59644911
Hang yourself subhuman, racial traitors and genetic detectives like you need to be gassed. Throw all linux commies and privacy cucks into a gas chamber. Kill every single last one of them.

>>59644900
In the conventional sense, I genuinely have nothing to hide. But that doesn't mean this information shouldn't be hidden.

>>59644876
1. ISPs can not view what's in your mail. Your email service provider can and all popular ones do
2. ISPs, dry cleaners and restaurants probably don't sell all your information, though they legally could. Most restaurants have some kind of online ordering system now for deliveries that build dossiers of their clients. It's about as likely that the service provider for these databases make extra money by selling this information.

>>59644911
Does your ISP know this stuff?

No. Lol. Learn what encryption is, you fucking retard. Google has more personal information on you than any ISP AND nobody cares about regulating them.

>>59644968
Bullet to the head for every privacy nigger, you're the disease killing whites.

>>59644985
I don't follow you're logic

>>59644979
Did just a child called me retard?
Son, there are greater threat to worry about than ISP.
Go ask your mom about STD's.

If you're confused, then try reading post I replied to.
My answer is general to a privacy concerns.
Not specifically to ISP.
Try to rationalise next time.

>>59645186
You're the autistic kid talking about what's in your pockets.

The point was about privacy relating to the use of private organisations services. Of course a restaurant doesn't know what's in your home but there are other privacy concerns raised about what they can and can't do with information that they've gathered on people using their private services. Regardless of whether you think it's right or not, the government should try to intervene as little as possible and when it comes to what private organisations do with the information that's going through their private services and stored on their private property there's a cause for alarm when government steps in.

Though it may be difficult, people should look for alternatives when these issues arise, not go crying to mommy's government. What there needs to be is more competition among ISPs and more development of privacy-protecting software, just like TOR and VPNs. When people look into your property and you don't like it, you put up a fence, you don't crying to government to regulate what people can look at. TOR exists and is used because people see it as a valid option to protect privacy instead of your solution of sitting there and pissing your pants like a baby and demanding everything cater to your interests.

And democracy exists by the logic that if you keep the majority happy, then you won't have mass rebellion. It's not made to accomplish what is right or best, that would be a fallacy - ad populum.

>>59643452
Using tor has nothing to do with exposing that information

>Using a service made by the US government to protect yourself from the US government

o i am laffin

>>59643031
Circumventing website bans.

>>59644223
Revoking free speech laws is fine because I have nothing to say.

>>59645529
>Using weapons designed by governments against tyrannical governments
The 2nd amendment is so stupid

>>59645448
I misunderstood your post then.

If you say that encryption gives you enough privacy, then you're wrong.
ISP or any third party who can use data provided by ISP can correlate your actions despite not knowing what exactly data you send.

And your anology still is dumb.
There is no critical information shared when you order meal or send mail.
But it can be by using tor, and your ISP can only see that you were connected to it and not specific site.

Do you really needed to explain this?

>>59645635
Define "enough privacy"
You should use a VPN

>There is no critical information shared when you order meal
Your address, your phone number, your name, the times you eat, who you're with, your IP, your account name, your billing information, traffic routes to your house or if you're inside the restaurant then they can record you (video and audio) and collect your DNA.

>>59645780
>Wew, he got me, better think of something
Acting like you can't avoid these things.

It's late where I am, and not in the mood trying to explain to some kid why you can't trust someone when they say "trust us, we have no logs here"

Continue your shitposting.

>>59645913
Ever consider you're just wrong and not as smart as you think you are?

>>59644048
/thread

>>59643031
I don't like people watching me even though I have nothing to hide.
Don't like being judged. And just because something isn't illegal doesn't mean people want to broadcast it to the world.

>>59644755
>I can't wait till you leftist cucks...
You dumb fucking nigger. There may come a day when those leftists decide you need to go.Personal information of any kind needs to be limited to those you trust. Not only do you sound like a commie, but you are arguing to provide commies with the tools to ruin your life.

>>59644842
Why are you hidding your identity? Do you have something to hide?

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>>59643031
>law abiding person
If you were really law abiding you would protest and riot AGAINST MASS SURVEILLANCE

>>59643031
I think you might fit in better on reddit if you like persistent identification

>>59644223
>I am yet to see a good, non-ideological counterargument to "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear".

Fine, I'll play.

Point 1: There's a reason everybody says that your Facebook posts reveals the real you. It's because your internet activity reveals everything about your personality, even things that you don't realize.

Point 2: related to Point 1. Everybody is into some fucked up shit. Regardless of what it is, the internet provides.

Now imagine an agency that knows not just your internet history but everything about our personality, your likes/dislikes, and with substantial amounts of dirt on you. Whistleblowing and leaks happen, whether they be explicitly ordered by the agency head or by a rouge agent.

Back alley/under the table shit is a normal thing is politics. What can a Director with an agenda do? If you want a specific person to be elected you destroy his opponent's public image by releasing the shit that you've collected about him since his childhood. You can control your candidate of choice by threatening to release the shit you've collected on him.

Why do you think so many politicians are kiddie diddlers? I'm not talking about pizzagate, it's a common theme all around the world. It's because their defeated opponents have been discredited by the same people that can also release dirt on the elected people but have chose not to. Because people with things to hide are easily controlled.

Just because you have nothing to hide now doesn't mean the situation will change in the future. Information is being collected from everybody, including kids, teens, and young adults. Said kids, teens, and young adults that will grow up to become the next generation of CEOs, senators, congressmen, ambassadors, and maybe even presidents.

It's fucking dangerous for one agency to have that much influence.

>>59644223
Why are you even posting on an anonymous Cambodian finger painting forum, seriously, if you'd like to have an online identity there's plenty of places you can go, like facebook

>>59644842
I'm not him but that's exactly the point you fucking idiot. Hiding your data doesn't mean that YOU did something wrong, it's to prevent OTHERS doing something wrong with it.

It can be a thief or a terrorist or some government, anyone can do evil. Why allow it?

>>59643031
>nothing to hide, nothing to fear
>literally a propaganda slogan made up by the nazi's
You sound like you're from that country where they think it's a great idea to allow ISP's to sell user data to advertisers. Oh wait I already named one reason to use tor

>>59643031
Something that's legal now may become illegal. Let's say you like watching lesbian midget scat porn. Then SJW's pass a law that midget porn is exploitative and illegal. Then they turn it on those who watched it in the past. You'd be turned in.

This is an extreme example, but there are similar things. I'm not defending CP, as it's vile, but privacy only being needed by those with things to hide is something non-freetards use.

>>59643031
If the government can see what you are doing, so can the criminals.

>>59647761
That is ironic considering a lot of the people in government commit several crimes

>>59646824

This guy get it.

>>59647786
Government corruption is why we must protect ourselves.

Now you understand why we promote crypto-anarchism.

>>59647841
After seeing this garbage get passed through congress, I say we should all cancel services with ISPs, even if it makes us go with out internet for the time being.

>>59647885
I am almost tempted to do this, but I do like my infinite distraction box.

>>59647935
Is there a way to take the existing network hardware and re-purpose it for peer to peer networks, instead of routing to an ISP.

>>59647994
People have been working on making mesh networks for years. There isn't really critical mass.

Look up about the Border Gateway Protocol and you can start to understand the scope of the problem.

>>59648037
When worse comes to worse, we could always mass store as much data as possible, let the ISP contracts run out, then share that data in the form of flash drives or disks with each other.

>>59648086
You mean like what Cuba does?

>>59647885
people use the internet for vital comm and work, we could do that with cheap mobile data plans for a while and go without streamed movies for a short time, maybe if normies could be convinced of that...

but when even one of us >>59647935 is hesitant, you know a facebook campaign would never fucking work, peopel will trade their freedom for comfort and convenyance ANY DAY, i bet this second anon even pays netflix to continue destroying web standards freedom

>>59648086
I don't think things are that bad, even with this legislation. Most people's browsing habits are already for sale via XSS trackers, so this really doesn't change much in practical terms.

>>59644223
>implying any argument can be free of ideology

Don't wanna get tracked by CIA niggers.

>>59648171
I hesitate because I don't think it will fix anything because >>59648192

Web 2.0 and the widespread normalization of XSS already fucked us before people even knew what was going on.

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>>59647885
>After seeing this garbage get passed through congress
People are so ignorant.

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>>59648171
>>59648259
It's shit like this that makes me depressed about the current state of the internet, how bloated, and invasive it has become.
>>59648290
I try to keep up, but there is so much I don't know and that I wish could change.

>>59643031
I have nothing to hide, thus there is no reason for the government to spy on me. If I don't need to identify myself or post on 4chan, I'll ALWAYS use Tor.

If my government can see my data, then very likely so can China or Russia. Maybe you trust your government, but would you trust them?

>>59643452
Sure you can take it.

>>59648370
Found the mudslime

>>59644842
What makes you think some random underpaid NSA redshirt won't steal your identity?

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>>59643975

>>59643452
The government already has all that information. Doesn't bother me because I have nothing to hide.

>>59644048
None of it is hidden so feel free to go through the proper channels to get it dude. You can contact me directly if you have any issues.

>>59647070
This is the right answer

>>59644696
underrated post

The real question is how long before comcast burns to the ground and proper ISP competition takes place so I can choose one that agrees to not sell my data.

>>59644223
Do you have blinds on your windows? If you're law abiding, you have nothing to hide inside your home, do you?

Privacy is reason enough in itself.

>>59649140
If any ISP wouldn't sell your data then their subscription would be really high to compensate. Then you'd really know out just how much your privacy is worth to you.

>>59649169
Proper competition drives prices down

>>59649200
The sad thing is there are areas in the country that only have one available provider, which leads to a area wide monopoly. If only the Anti-Trust laws could break these ISPs apart, then we could have fair competition.

>>59649224
My area has multiple providers but they're not competitive.

>>59649200
Prices are already extremely low. The only reason the internet exists as we know it and is available to all is because the data can be traded. The data generated by internet usage is valuable in itself, if it wasn't the internet wouldn't be profitable.

>>59649270
>Prices are already extremely low.
Only compared to the worst in the world
>The data generated by internet usage is valuable in itself, if it wasn't the internet wouldn't be profitable
And if there were proper ISP competition I'd choose one that didn't sell my data. I hope comcast burns to the ground.

>>59648542
found the authoritarian

>>59649237
That is the other issue. A lot of the providers are not striving to compete, likely because they are cooperating by offering each other protection from failure, investing in each others business, and fixing the price of service to a level they all agree to behind closed doors.

>>59649314
>And if there were proper ISP competition I'd choose one that didn't sell my data
Sure but you'd pay for it is what I'm saying. I'm not against the idea and I bet there are a lot of people who'd find out that they don't value their privacy as much as they thought they did when faced with the option. Honestly it would be worth it just to teach people that their data isn't that important to them and put an end to this privacy meme once and for all.

>>59649367
>Sure but you'd pay for it is what I'm saying
Yeah you mean like back in dial-up days when ad supported internet was FREE and there were a plethora of affordable paid alternatives ?

>>59649402
The dial-up days are over. For this being a technology board you sure are clueless about how the internet actually works.

There are many things that I consider innocuous but others would not.

I think I do not have nothing to hide. But I'm sure there are lawyers out there who could spin some bullshit to make me guilty of something.

I'll just leave this here.
http://robindoherty.com/2016/01/06/nothing-to-hide.html

>>59649438
>The dial-up days are over.
No we'd instead have tons of broadband ISP's to choose from if the money tax payers paid for the infrastructure weren't extorted.

>>59649482
>the knowledge that you are being surveilled can make you less likely to research a particular topic
What a terrible argument. I didn't stop watching anime when I learned privacy didn't exist.

>>59643031
>he doesnt know that ogres have LAYERS

It's better to have privacy and not need it than to need it and not have it maybe?

Privacy

Don't want his/her data to be easily accessed

You live in a dictatorship and the only way for you to communicate is through the onion

>>59643031

A man who gives up liberty for temporary security deserves neither liberty nor security

>>59649766
really makes u think

>>59649766
>>59649835
>temporary
Hard to determine the nature of temporary sometimes.

I used it once because I was playing a browser game and wanted to have 2 accounts but it wouldn't let me use 2 from the same IP or something. I'm probably on a government watch list from playing a stupid game.

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>>59643031
look at dis mane

>>59649022
the gumbint has a pic of you're's truly holding you're pinus?

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>>59647230
>rouge agent

>>59644169
First sane argument

>>59643031
I trust my government at the moment, they're not perfect but not super botnet like US. They have a large spy network. Can I trust the next govt? The one after that? I can't see the future.

After the insanely slippery slope of privacy over the last couple of decades you'd be insane to be so willing to hand over future rights

>>59644842
Why are so many motherfuckers with shit for brains on this thread, you're literally answering your own question.

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OP here.

Holy shit I started this bread yesterday to subtly ask if I should use Tor in the hopes you faggots would drop useful info on it. So I will just ask outright. Should I use Tor even though I have nothing to hide or care about hiding and have no intent on breaking any laws? Jesus fuck.

>>59655422
I guess I would like the answer for this too. Any reason to use TOR, even if I'm only using it for legal but private reasons?

>>59644169
>>59651358
It is the government's job to enforce what is morally acceptable to do, like, or think. Book burnings need to make a return.

>>59655516
Let's not bring the events of Fahrenheit 451 into reality please.

>>59655544
I was thinking more of nazi germany, back when degeneracy like traps didn't exist and men were men.

>>59655642
Yes I am aware, but burning books does not solve the issue of degeneracy. That should be handled with discipline in the schools and teaching respect for oneself in the family.

>>59652007
If you're scared you have something to hide. Kill yourself for being a cuck, I hope you get tortured you piece of shit.

>>59655422
>>59655485
It's SLOW

>>59655806
alright thanks for clearing that up.

>>59643031
the average /g/ user is just worried about others know the things they use to fap

Edward Snowden: "Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say."

"When you say, ‘I have nothing to hide,’ you’re saying, ‘I don’t care about this right.’ You’re saying, ‘I don’t have this right, because I’ve got to the point where I have to justify it.’ The way rights work is, the government has to justify its intrusion into your rights."

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Maybe because i don't want people to fucking know i fap to hentai?

>>59655422
>Should I use Tor even though I have nothing to hide or care about hiding and have no intent on breaking any laws?
Yes. Even if you don't """""need""""" any of the privacy it offers, there's a herd-immunity effect to it. The more Tor traffic there is (and the more traffic in general is encrypted) the less exceptional it will look for someone to be using Tor. You're helping the people who do really need the security to have it.

Quotation marks around need because asking if you "need" privacy is the wrong way to look at things. Need never enters into it. You're entitled to have it, for any reason, or for no reason. You don't have to justify it in the slightest.

>>59643031
>If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear

If you have nothing to say, you shouldn't worry about free speach.

>>59644696
based anon

>>59644861
Same idea with credit. Sorry your social media score isn't high enough your loan was denied.

>>59647070
Laws are for people incapable of securing their own safety and privacy. Stop pushing your responsibilities onto the state.

>>59657034
>Stop pushing your responsibilities onto the state.
It is 100% inarguably a responsibility of the state to avoid violating people's rights.

>>59644861
>not browsing in incognito mode

>>59643031
I don't want my future employers knowing that I visit Kikebart for the lulz

>>59644842
Then what's your problem with using Tor n'shit? The government already has all the information it needs about you. Do you only give out that information to rich corporations?

>>59656174
Can you stop promoting edward snowden like he's some genius. Yeah, he leaked a bunch of info, but it's like that ben franklin quote that people post because they want to sound smart.

Honestly, my main reason for it is internet nostalgia. There's a slight entry barrier for Tor meaning every moron teenager with a smartphone isn't immediately connected to it. A lot of the sites remind me of 90s internet but with the design principles of today.

Never heard of this concept of whistleblowers?

Abiding to de jure law isn't always moral nor legal.

This is such a painfully braindead question.

wow this thread is literally full of AT&T and Comcast shills. How does it feel to sell your country to evil corporations?

>>59643031
In countries without free speech or various hate crime laws you need to use tor to avoid getting arrested for thought control. You should never be okay with chipping rights away assuming you won't be next.

>>59657605
>use Tor to avoid being prosecuted for breaking the law
>law abiding person
Pick one

>>59657628
>You should get arrested for questioning the 60 zillion jews in the holocaust

>>59657628
>Laws are always right and just

>>59657689
Agreed, just because a law was made doesn't mean the law is in the right. Like gun control, just because there are gun control laws doesn't mean they're good laws.

>>59657702
Gun control does not stop contraband gun sales. It only limits what guns, ammunition, and accessories civilians are able to purchase.

>>59657740
>It only limits what guns, ammunition, and accessories civilians are able to purchase.
That's why it's a bad law. Shall not be infringed upon my good man.

>>59644223
hell ill add on to >>59649154
do you have doors on your house?

do your doors have locks?

why are you trying to keep out the world from whatever you do in your house?

are you some kinda loli terrorist training ISIS supporter?

you have nothing to fear after all so why would you hide it?

>>59658038
I fear outside people and their behavior. My home is my fortress of solitude, where I can momentarily avoid the monotony of society at large. How I choose to protect my house and the possessions inside are of my discretion.

>>59658168
why are you hiding from people and hiding your behavior anon?

your not doing illegal stuff arent you?
so why are you worried?

after all nothing to hide nothing to steal

>>59658186
All of my otaku stuff of course. Nobody wants to see that shit anyways.

>>59657642
>>59657689
>>59657702
>Changing the question
The OP doesn't distinguish between just and unjust laws.

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Gonna use this thread to ask a question.

Will a VPN have the same effect as using TOR for privacy ? If I filter all my connection through a VPN, is there still usable data to be sold ?

>>59658526
>Will a VPN have the same effect as using TOR for privacy
No. Different tools for different purposes.

>If I filter all my connection through a VPN, is there still usable data to be sold ?
Only if you're doing things on identifiable services like a Google or Facebook account or Amazon shopping, etc. Otherwise the only way they could generally track you (as in your machine, not necessarily your true identity) would be through your cookies. Make sure to delete those periodically.

>>59659635
Self destructing cookies.

>>59644016
as long as you only use hidden services for such sensitive login stuff, else you are fucked

>>59659704
Thought that was a given.

>>59644611
We don`t need a super intelligent godlike AI to fuck the human race over, we are quite capable of achieving this all by ourselves.

>>59644754
Irresponsible, corrupt, incompetent - these are the words that best describe government and technology

>>59643031
it unblocks sites..?

i use it because hotspotshield doesnt run on linux and i mostly work out of a cafe that autistically blocks half the internet

>>59644811
A long list of services which you explicitly choose to use, have a very narrow scope and are probably of little interest to anyone.

ISPs selling your data - what data?

Only everything you have ever used the internet for, whether you like it or not

Who has access to the data? The security guard who owes his bookie $150,000, the Russian hacker looking to a few new marks for his latest scam who got into the ISPs server because they were to cheap to get a decent sysadmin, or the j Edgar Hoover wannabe who thinks that certain practices are unamerican and should be purged from society

>>59644947
Holy shit the edge. /pol/ has destroyed every board with autism. Sad!

>>59643031
"If you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say."

>>59643031
>Any reason a law abiding person would want to use Tor?
I'm sure you'd be perfectly happy with the CIA looking into your bathroom while you're shitting, what if you're making a nuclear bomb in there?

>>59643031
If I have nothing to fear, why am I susceptible to government surveillance methods?

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>>59643031
>Nothing to Hide, Nothing to Fear
You still believe this garbage in 2017?

The real question you should ask is: Is there any reason a law abiding person would NOT use tor.

There is no reason not to be private, anonymous, untraceable and consenting to all connections.

Any lesser level of liberty and you're a CIA shill.

>>59662033
let's talk about the San Bernardino iPhone 5C.
The FBI claimed they had it. They claimed they had, for some reason, locked it. They tried to strong-arm Apple into writing a tool to crack it.
Then they claimed to have a 3rd party tool to crack it. Finally they "admitted" there was nothing on it.
None of this is verifiable. We have no evidence that any of this is true.
They have the ability to say these things because we can't prove otherwise. Same with the contents of your hard drive. They can say anything.