How do I protect myself from my ISP now that Congress got rid

opt out or a vpn

>>59628042

how does a vpn block me from my ISP?

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>murica
>cucked
pick two (2)

>>59628052
The VPN sells your info instead of your ISP

>>59628014
stop living in a Free™ country

>got rid of law that hasn't even gone into effect

>>59628217
>law that was due to go in effect protected our privacy
>the GOP got rid of it
>no more law to protect us

fucking retard

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>>59628014
Use Tor like any other autist would.

If you use HTTPS you should be fine.

>>59628290
There will be laws drawn up, put it place, but it will be by the FTC instead of the FCC because the argument is that the FCC was too strict, and stifled competition and innovation or something. They say Telecoms won't be able to compete with companies like Google and Facebook who are under FTC guidelines. It's kind of a faulty comparison, since it is true that companies like google and facebook get a lot of information on its users their services are free, completely optional--which is not the case in some places with limited options due to ISP monopolies--and the kicker they're not as invasive or have the potential information gathering capabilities as an ISP.

Let's not forget that the bill has to now be signed by trump to become law. There's a small chance he might revoke it, but it's unlikely.

>>59628014
Were you protecting yourself before October 2016?

If no, then you're a retarded hypocrite.

get off the internet

Look on the bright side. Eventually ISPs will lose money by not having you connected to the internet, effectively moving us toward free internet as a """human right"""

>>59628014
How were you protecting yourself 4 months ago?

>>59628495
>put it place
put into place*

Like someone said before these are guidelines that were repealed never actually got implemented. They were created by the previous administration. So basically it is back to the drawing board and nothing changes for even longer.

Don't live in a banana republic or a Pakistani colony.

>>59628014
>Is this really Making America Great Again?
Actually yes. This pushes more websites to implement HTTPS.

>>59628652
Really? Why weren't websites implementing HTTPS 3 months ago?

>>59628670
people have taken more interest now than three months ago

>>59628670
Because they have Trump-phobia and so anything he does they must counteract.

I really do regret voting for Trump. I'm sorry we didn't pick someone less retarded like Jeb

>>59628687
Really? Why? The situation was exactly the same, except fake news media outlets weren't reporting on this clickbait.

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>>59628702
Who /Yeb! 2020/ here?

>>59628652
>use local web cache to reduce traffic
>https websites don't get cache because that is man in the middle, duh
>forced to use https
>can't cache to local server to cache anymore because they're watching

then again, I knew they were watching to begin with, right?

>still browsing 4chan on http so it caches images

>>59628290
>relying on the government to protect you
Get fucked, retard.

It's illegal to sell someone's VHS rental history, because someone used it against a politician to reveal they rented porn. I'm sure that some ISP will sell a politicians data, and then the politicians will make it illegal.

>>59628712
Because people felt security that eventually they would have laws that protected them, but as you can see we will now stay in this limbo and our privacy under the benevolent discretion of our ISP for a while longer until this administration and the FTC make something that please their lobbyists.

A better question is \why have people already ruled out the possibility that trump might give this the old kibosh?

>>59628829
>relying on the government to protect you
Might as well just kill yourself right now.

>>59628815
considering the amount of money other politicians were paid to pass this, i doubt it

>>59629213
I'm guessing there will be some exclusion clause for politicians. Their rights are much more important than ours, after all.

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>>59628702
Why the hell would you vote for Trump in the first place? You're retarded for thinking he was actually going to do anything good.

>>59628829
>Trump ever going against corporate interest.

>>59628065
This always made me leery of VPN providers. Are the data mining cash cows or what?

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>privacy exists in the '''''''''''current year''''''''''

>people being upset by this

Commies. If you have nothing to hide, all this does it promote various industries and create jobs. If do you do have something to hide, you shouldn't be allowed the freedoms God gave you.

>>59629286
A VPN will have a different user agreement that will likely spell out what protections you have and what data they collect

unless there's a demand for your ISP to give you the same protections it won't happen. There's significantly less competition in the ISP market than there is in the VPN market. You're not restricted to a local VPN like you are with an ISP.

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>>59629278
>Why the hell would you vote for Trump in the first place?
The problem was that for most americans, they were disillusioned by not being able to trust someone that constantly was being barraged for being two-faced. We just happened to end up with the biggest retard on the opposite end of our great two party system.

>>59629315
So you'd like to share with us your health and financial problems? How about that purchase of that bad dragon dildo gets shared with friends and family because your isp just sold it to some random person?

>>59629286
VPNs can say to don't log any personally identifying information and legally collect all IP information because they're a degree removed from resolving the IP to your name and advertising key. Data brokers, however, can purchase these "nameless" IPs and now, thanks to this law, resolve them with data purchased from the ISPs themselves.

>>59629377
>The problem was that for most americans, they were disillusioned by not being able to trust someone that constantly was being barraged for being two-faced.
The irony being that they got the biggest pathological liar they could have possibly gotten.

>>59629377
>slippery slope fallacy

I have no health problems, people who do shouldn't be logging them online if they care so much about people finding out (they shouldn't). If you bought a dragon dildo or watch tentacle hentai or something like that you deserve to have your life ruined. We need more of that so problematic individuals are discouraged from obscene or illegal activities online out of fear of harsh payback.

>>59629449
>If you bought a dragon dildo or watch tentacle hentai or something like that you deserve to have your life ruined

moral high ground here boys

>>59629463
Degeneracy ruins societies. I have long hoped net neutrality died so that we can see a new job surge and eliminate all the criminal and degenerate sites from the face of the Earth. It breeds an unhealthy public.

If my son watched hentai he'd be on the streets.

>>59629449
A country of sexually repressed people, I'm sure that would go over well. I know it did for a lot of catholic church boys.

>>59629428
Here's hoping that he either steps the fuck up (he won't) or he gets caught doing something fucking stupid and gets thrown out of office. At least Pence doesn't spend more time on twitter than a teenager.

>>59629449
>people who do shouldn't be logging them online if they care so much about people finding out
It doesn't work like that. By paying medical bills online or looking up local pharmacies, ad companies will just put two and two together. If you don't opt out of tracking services even on your phone, they know more about you than your family does.

>>59629502
Dude we can just have sex education in schools. Pornography is awful for one's health and is a gateway for all sorts of mental illnesses.

>>59629517
I have a feeling he'll get thrown out of office at some point. I can't see him serving 2 terms unless he miraculously does something amazing (which he won't).

>>59629517
Trump spends time on twitter to address the public ahead of the spin of the traitorous, libelous press who deserves to be imprisoned. It's a genius approach not seen since the fireside chats and should be encouraged. What about other politicians who talk on twitter? Why only Trump? Oh, because he's actually achieving things unlike Obama who only passed harmful legislation that enabled criminals and deviants.

Also, then don't look up stuff related to your condition online if it bothers you. If it bothers you that much then you need help, seriously.

>>59629587
>who deserves to be imprisoned
Wow, you don't even see Tumblrinas calling for Sean Hannity to be jailed. Are you really such a special snowflake that you need to end free speech and jail people who disagree with you?

>>59629609
It's not free speech, it's libel and not protected. So yeah, they deserve to be thrown in jail for attempting to brainwash the public and breaking many laws to do so. It's only a coincidence they're all liberals I'm sure.

>>59629587
>Also, then don't look up stuff related to your condition online if it bothers you.
The isps won't need your permission to collect information. I'm not worried about myself, because I have the know-how to be able to avoid it to the best of my ability. This is about companies taking advantage of consumers.

>>59629496
The problem isn't really about degeneracy, it's about democracy. Politics and human jealousy will always cause people to play dirty and anything and everything will be used against you. If you know the American Constitution, you wouldn't be taking this position because you know it is made to stop tyranny from happening in the USA.

If the better person loses their chance to effect or even govern because of an medical records of a anal fissure do to a dragon dildo-related accident, and a tyrant gets through then there is something seriously flawed with our system. (Dragon dildos being the extreme, in reality a lesser more innocent piece of information might be made publicly and spun to attack the character of someone.) Our system is already a media circus and distasteful as fuck.

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>>59629377
>two party system

If only there were more options to choose from...

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>>59628042
>opt out

>>59629653
That's capitalism, buddy. Get used to it.

>>59629660
Literally nobody cares, except lefties who have sick shit to hide. If someone is a freak and gets outed, they deserve to lose like Hillary did with all her Satanist shit.

>>59629643
There are no laws against libel on the federal level. It's not protected speech, and even if it was, you're using the same excuse SJWs use to ban hate speech. You really are a special snowflake.

>>59629698
>Hillary did with all her Satanist shit
you what

>>59629698
>lefties are the only ones into sick shit
I know you're just shitposting, but I love how it's always Republicans that get caught molesting children.

>>59629712
>using words you don't understand

Okay, lefty. I hope you enjoy a jail cell because of all those anime hentais and hipster music you downloaded.

>>59629496
>Degeneracy ruins societies
>If you bought a dragon dildo or watch tentacle hentai or something like that you deserve to have your life ruined

You would be the first to get it faggot, remember you browse 4chan.

>inb4 but I.....

>>59629750
I don't watch anime and I only listen to Christian music like Tenth Avenue North.

>>59629735
Google it bro.

>>59629739
Name one. Liberals are the ones doing child sex trafficking. Look into Pizzagate. Liberals want pedophilia to be legal. They're all sick and should be institutionalized.

>>59629757
If they saw all of my posts they'd know I'm one of their allies. Again, I have nothing to hide.

>>59629750
>implying you arent guilty by association

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>>59629792
>In my world, Everyone can see my post history on an anonymous image website that has no offical public records of post history

OK KID

>>59629792
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Shortey#2017_arrest_and_resignation_from_office

Just pick an ISP that doesn't sell your history then. The free market works.

>>59629792
>Look into Pizzagate
what

lol

that is the original fake news conspiracy theory that is now dead and gone

>>59629817
>has no offical public records of post history
is that what you really believe? Archives alone could identify you with ISP information retard. Not to mention if you ever namefagged how easy it will be

>>59629849
The MSM is fake news. Yall need to be redpilled about the MSM.

>>59629819
>one guy who isn't even a real Republican

Name me the powerful sex trafficker that is on the right. You can't. They're all lefties.

>>59629849
It's been proven time and time again and those responsible will burn in the fires of justice soon enough. Trump knows.

>>59629792
>Google it bro.
Can't find anything from an actual news outlet. Unless you count the national inquirer.

>Look into Pizzagate
oh you're one of those

>>59629792
>Liberals want pedophilia to be legal. They're all sick and should be institutionalized.

Milo Yiannopoulos was the one who said sex with a child was OK.

>>59629850
>I cant understand words put into sentences

Unless you are telling me that I can look up your post history, you better go back to your GED classes, degenerate

>>59629792
Liberals will never normalize pedophilia, because they'd never legalize anything that disproportionately benefits white people.

>>59629872
oh boy here we go

>>59629878
The MSM had it in for him since the beginning.

>>59629845
the vast majority of locations in the US only have 2-3 options and they're all the same. Broadband infrastructure is held with an iron grip and not allowed use by anyone.

Our only hope is Elon's low orbit satellite broadband but that faggot is working on his shitty AI cyborg shit.

>>59629532
[citation needed]

>>59629698
>Literally nobody cares, except lefties who have sick shit to hide. If someone is a freak and gets outed, they deserve to lose [all respect from everyone they know regardless of how hardworking they may be]
So what you're saying is, at the end of the day, mentally ill people don't deserve normal social lives, no matter how hard they may have worked to cultivate and maintain said lives for themselves and distance themselves from their sickness, all because they still had to have some corner of their lives to indulge in the sickness and couldn't purge it from their psyches completely -- which, by the way, is impossible?

>>59629873
I'm a real American who loves his country and wants to end the cancer that is liberalism. What are you? Some guy scared his download history will land him in jail.

>>59629878
No he didn't, that was fake news. He said something totally different and most of it was joking. He's not a real conservative anyway since he's gay.

>>59629888
Look up sex trafficking of children in Africa and the Middle East. Liberal ideologies are the only ones that promote it. Liberals want this to be the norm and that's why they're against this bill, they're scared.

>>59628777
This.
The government doesn't give a shit about you, or ever will.
Defend yourself, find your own solutions to your problems.

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>>59629927
>you can only be a real american if you exploit the weak and take a giant shit on the environment

>>59629927
>No he didn't, that was fake news
yes he did
here's what he had to say about it
“Things sometimes tumble out of your mouth on these long late-night live streams, when everyone is spitballing and had a couple of drinks, that are not completely expressed and not exactly what you intend. Obviously, if I had known I was going to have the media profile I have now, I would have been cautious about this stuff. I never imagined that I would become famous."

79 / 9 / 28 / 1

>>59629927
Trumpfags went from autistic to insane fundamentalist real quick.

>>59629792
>Name one.
Not that guy but Dennis Hastert

>>59629954
Capitalism is American you filthy pinko
The only thing that isn't American is big government.

If all you leftists were removed from America then we could actually start dealing with the other problem, statism. But until you retards kill yourselves, we have to ally with authoritarians to get rid of you.

>>59629954
>muh climate change
Nice (((science))) my friend, keep shilling for the globalists.

>>59630000
This. Authoritarianism is the only way to purge the world of leftism and white genocide. If it means mass surveillance then so be it, I'm down, I have nothing to hide and I want to return the world to proper Christian values. I'd elect Trump dictator if the option emerged, because we need one, bad.

>>59629951
A government that doesn't give a shit about us needs to be brought down.

I love how right wingers are always so proud to be like "muh gubmint don't protect me i protect muhself" but at the first mention that maybe that's a problem and merits fixing, right away it's "socialists, commies, muh freedom fries, muh beer." A government is a social contract: we offer up some freedoms, they protect others. We, the body thus protected, have the sole moral authority to renegotiate this contract, with or without the consent of the body governing.

Let's set aside our differences on the second amendment and all agree, that if there's any legitimate use for civilian firearms, it's upon us.

>>59629927
>No he didn't, that was fake news. He said something totally different and most of it was joking. He's not a real conservative anyway since he's gay.
Haha look at the frantic backpedaling and cognitive dissonance. I love welfare NEETS who contribute nothing to society, yet have contradictory pol-influenced political views

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Is my loli okay or what? That's all I care about.

>>59630045
I'm an engineer, I have no worries unlike you whoa re going to jail for piracy and/or degeneracy.

>>59630070
No, sicko, you're the first to be put to the sword.

Does this mean that companies can buy information on specific customers?
Say you apply to a company and they want to know a lot more about you so they purchase your browsing history from some ISP.

>>59630110
Yes. This is a good thing because it means only the best people who deserve a job can get one.

>>59630092
Not that guy but I'm also an engineer, and also a degenerate, but won't be going to prison for it, because for all the things I've done online that have been wrong, none of them have been illegal. But I also don't want any of them sold around.

Give me one good reason my wishes in this regard shouldn't be respected. Bearing in mind what I said before that you never replied to:
>>59629924
>>Literally nobody cares, except lefties who have sick shit to hide. If someone is a freak and gets outed, they deserve to lose [all respect from everyone they know regardless of how hardworking they may be]
>So what you're saying is, at the end of the day, mentally ill people don't deserve normal social lives, no matter how hard they may have worked to cultivate and maintain said lives for themselves and distance themselves from their sickness, all because they still had to have some corner of their lives to indulge in the sickness and couldn't purge it from their psyches completely -- which, by the way, is impossible?

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>>59630092
Anon, please.
What do I do?

>>59630092
>I'm an engineer
At some point lying on the internet gets really sad, you just got there.
>, I have no worries unlike you whoa re going to jail for piracy and/or degeneracy.
You're on 4chan, any moral high ground you think you posses, please let me assure you it is not there you delusional fuck.
The meref act you're on here brings your character into question. I know you're just some poltard sheep, but all of this bleating about "degeneracy" is sounding more and more like projection.

>>59630135
>So what you're saying is, at the end of the day, mentally ill people don't deserve normal social lives, no matter how hard they may have worked to cultivate and maintain said lives for themselves and distance themselves from their sickness, all because they still had to have some corner of their lives to indulge in the sickness and couldn't purge it from their psyches completely -- which, by the way, is impossible?

yeah basically, they're subhuman. Got a problem with my opinion? Because my opinion is about to throw your ass into therapy or jail, preferably the latter.

>>59630136
Get the rope.

>>59628014
If you're not a kiddy-fiddler like Podesta, a muslim terrorist like Bin Laden or a traitor that sells state secrets like Snowden, you literally don't ever need privacy. Privacy is just a convenience excuse used by criminals and enemies of the state.

>>59629502
>>>59629449
>A country of sexually repressed people...

You've must have never left the usa...

>>59629662
A multi-party system like other countries just means you have coalitions that empower fringe groups. Just look at what is happening all over the EU to "Stop Nazis" ultra-Marxists/progs/socialists/etc use it to force "compromise" in the name of keeping the single larger party out.
Now that the libertarian party has gone full-tilt Libertarian-Marxist dildo the neocons might finally get pushed out.
Besides that, we've let the politicians become lapdogs to corporate interest. (Vid related) we need to elect better politicians and press parties to lax their national-line in the name of local interest. Implement laws, or even amendments to limit corporate lobbying, prevent politicians and bureaucrats from flopping into kickback positions. The lobbyists push them to press their interests, offer campaign funds, nice lunches at the sunset of their career a nice 6,7 figure salary as a corner-office seat-warmer.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tu32CCA_Ig [Embed]

>>59630070
No. You're doomed.

But I think the best course of action is not to worry about it. If you're on here and ALSO into anime, you're obviously a fat slob. So you should be happy. You'll lose everything, but you'll still be able to enjoy your loli by taking advantage of rudimentary security tools at public libraries. As a bonus, becoming a figure of public scorn without any future opportunity for employment -- and, by extent, without food or a house -- will help you lose a lot of weight. Then, when you're remotely attractive again, you can have a second chance, because no one will believe you're the same guy if you just look at the picture and be like "wow, I'd never let myself get that fat."

>>59630136
Komari a best

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>>59630136
Heey! psst!!

Don't listen to that meanie

>>59630173
>you literally don't ever need privacy. Privacy is just a convenience excuse used by criminals and enemies of the state.
I had a feeling you were just trolling but this is just too obvious 0/10

>>59630206
Prove what he said is wrong.

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>>59630193
I don't like your projecting but I admire your autism.

>>59630201
Best taste

>>59630204
He said I'd be put to the sword ;-;

>>59629845
In my city there are only two choices: Comcast and CenturyLink, and CenturyLink's max speed is 1.5 Mb/s.

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>>59630157
>conservatives: hurrdurr i wanna throw people in jail who don't agree with me
>liberals: hurrdurr i wanna throw people in jail who don't agree with me

The American Way™

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>>59630126
>Browse potential employees private browsing history
>This is a good thing because it means only the best people who deserve a job can get one.
Here is your (you)

>>59629845
the ISP market is not a free market

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>>59630240
What swords what is this the crusades


I'm telling you to not listen to him, baka!

>>59629872
Idk bub. Trump can't pass a simple healthcare bill with a party majority in both the house and senate, both of his travel bans were immediately invalidated, and he hasn't built his promised wall yet. If he can't get any of that done, i doubt he'll have the time/power to chase down a pizza shop owner

>>59630285

you don't understand what free market is... secondly there's a ton of ISP's, many in mobile.. or do you feel entitled to high bandwidth usage?

>>59630266
The difference is liberals want me to die. I just want them in jail. Which this bill will help me achieve.

>>59630276
Not an argument commie.

>>59630329
The bill was a conjob by traitor Paul Ryan to sabotage Trump and make himself look stronger. We need to remove every single person in my party who has ever said a negative thing about Trump, because otherwise they're likely to be backstabbers who want my country to die off.

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>>59630312
But what if he's the one with the sword, anon?
He can buy my info!

>>59630157
>yeah basically, they're subhuman.
Oh.

>Got a problem with my opinion?
Yeah. I do. It's depraved and morally despicable. And you can trust me on that; I'm an expert.

>Because my opinion is about to throw your ass into therapy or jail, preferably the latter.
I'm already in therapy. No sensible police officer who knows my story would find it in his heart to arrest me for anything I've done (none of which, as a reminder, has been illegal anyway).

You're an extremist. I don't think you can reasonably go around touting values Jesus would have balked at and calling them "Christian."

>>59630348
It's not a free market if the consumers don't have any choices.

>>59630393
>being this much of a liberal

Yeah you're going in jail one way or another before Trump is done. I'm only an extremist if you consider loving America an extreme position, bro.

>>59630240
>I don't like your projecting but I admire your autism.
It's not projecting, it's just the facts. YOU'RE the one with autism here, because all /g/tards who also like anime are fat autistic slobs.

>>59629315
>If you have nothing to hide...
What if one of these so called "commies" (let's say,in your workplaces human resources) gets some info about you they don't like? This is where this whole deal becomes dangerous.You never know when you may have something to hide because people can be absolutely irrational.

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HOW DO I OPT OUT

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>>59630391
O-oh no! Run anon! Hayaku!!

>>59630420
>Yeah you're going in jail one way or another before Trump is done.
I've done nothing illegal.
>I'm only an extremist if you consider loving America an extreme position, bro.
I love America, too. But not the America you love. The America you love never really existed (though our origins are slightly closer to it) never will, and doesn't deserve to.

>>59630431
Then I sue them for any wrongdoings as I am on the side of the law and I get to see a degenerate commie behind bars.

A surveillance state is a good thing when you're a law-abiding citizen. Obama's SOPA was a disaster because he was a traitor and wanted to round my kind up, but this is fine because it benefits the normal Americans.

>>59630437
Pay an addition $30 opt out fee a month to your isp

>>59628014
Um, don't overreact and buy into the crap shitty clickbait blogs are peddling?

The notion that anyone can now buy a complete, URL by URL transcript of your Internet history is laughable. You do realize that shit needs a fucking court order to get right? That's not magically going to change overnight.

What the bill in question is talking about is broad demographic data, ie "this person is 18-24, likes guns, McDonalds and Trump." That's it.

>>59630348
>or do you feel entitled to high bandwidth usage?
yes, I do feel entitled to broadband...

http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/29/7932653/fcc-changed-definition-broadband-25mbps
>As part of its 2015 Broadband Progress Report, the Federal Communications Commission has voted to change the definition of broadband by raising the minimum download speeds needed from 4Mbps to 25Mbps, and the minimum upload speed from 1Mbps to 3Mbps, which effectively triples the number of US households without broadband access

>>59630458
By the time Trump is done whatever degeneracy you're in therapy for will be a crime. Either that, or on the Day of the Rope, you're going to be dragged out into the streets and face your life choices.

>The America you love never really existed (though our origins are slightly closer to it) never will, and doesn't deserve to.
>H-HE WON'T WIN! MSNBC TOLD ME SO!
I don't have to pretend to care about the "rights" of criminals and leftists any more, this is my country, and I'll be rooting every step towards a surveillance state we take.

>>59630374
Where's our wall tho? I haven't heard a peep ever since he's been on a downward spiral of consistent losing since taking office. He sank to a new low recently by handing Merkel a bill for £300 billion, and it turned out he just printed it off; your thoughts? He's been using a lot of my hard earned tax money down at his own resort playing many rounds of golf...

funny how that poltard is calling for gub'ment to throw his ideological opponents in jail

it's almost like he's become the people he opposes

Are there other first-world countries where this is already legal or is USA the first?

>>59630468
>law-abiding citizen
This only works until you piss off somebody in government or with connections to government. Then they ruin you over something innocuous, and suddenly you're in the same fix that people as the "others" you presumably hate.

You'll learn empathy and common sense then, but it'll be too late at that point.

>>59630498
>believing the lies of the fake media

He roasted Merkel, the anti-white traitor with blood on her hands, and now she's mocked the world over. The wall will come after the Day of the Rope.

>>59630437
Change your browser user agent to "AM I BEING DETAINED"

>>59628652
They'll still be able to see which websites you go do, just not what you actually did on the website.

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>>59630427
That's very rude desu! How do I lose weight senpai. I'm 560 now!

>>59630490

well you're not entitled to that, faggot

secondly..

>theverge
>2015

Kek.

>>59630504
Fascists are only for free speech when it benefits them. As soon as they have any sort of power, they throw their political opponents in jail.

>>59628014
Sponsor and live with a Somali refugee. Love Drumph's Hate!

>>59630536
Incoming suicide response..

>>59630535
>he thinks the CA's couldn't possibly be in bed with the ISPs.

>>59630528
When's the day of the rope gonna happen?

>>59630458
What kind of degenerate are you?
Also
Using tragedy as an excuse to bring society down to your level is despicable, it not despicable to want your children to grow up without being influenced by freaks.

>>59630598
Probably next year at the rate lefties are committing violent crimes. Soon martial law will be declared, and that's when the militias form.

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>>59630598
It already happened.

In 1978.

In a work of fiction.

>>59630495
>By the time Trump is done whatever degeneracy you're in therapy for will be a crime.
It'll be too late then. You can't be charged for any crime that wasn't a crime when you did it. If you love your country so much, I'd think you'd know a bit more about the basics of how it works.
>Either that, or on the Day of the Rope, you're going to be dragged out into the streets and face your life choices.
Having been raped as a child is not a life choice. Anything "degenerate" I've done since, I'm willing to defend as reasonable under the warped sense of reason induced involuntarily upon me by my circumstances, and I'm willing to defend them with guns.

>I don't have to pretend to care about the "rights" of criminals and leftists any more, this is my country, and I'll be rooting every step towards a surveillance state we take.
>"This is America, I don't have to pretend to be a real American anymore."
Oh ok got it

>>59630541
yes, 2015 was a much better year when we actually had an FCC chairman who cared about the consumer not the lobby

I may not be entitled to it but it certainty benefits me significantly and those unfortunate enough to not have it lose a lot of opportunity. (i.e red state trump voters with poor bandwidth penetration)

free market will always fuck somebody over. you are obviously not pro consumer

>>59630495
>I don't have to pretend to care about the "rights" of criminals and leftists any more, this is my country, and I'll be rooting every step towards a surveillance state we take.
That would require Trump and the GOP majority actually be an effective at governing, which they have consistently shown a tenuous grasp of.

If Obama couldn't change the nation in eight, Trump sure as hell isn't changing it in four.

>>59630437
Get fitted for a noose

This
Is a public service announcement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQn3KYiy8Zs

>>59630601
>What kind of degenerate are you?
Mildly gender dysphoric, not to the point of actually being transgender. Eating disordered, and the roots of the disorder have tied into my sexuality and made me attracted to fat people and into being physically hurt by means that draw blood.

>Using tragedy as an excuse to bring society down to your level is despicable
I've done nothing to bring society down to my level. The public image I maintain is very normal and wholesome.
It's morally despicable to draw someone's degeneracy out into the open when they work as hard as I do to keep it locked up where it belongs.
>it not despicable to want your children to grow up without being influenced by freaks.
It's morally despicable to use that understandable and admirable sentiment as an excuse to condemn innocent people to prison or death.

>>59628815
>It's illegal to sell someone's VHS rental history
The Patriot Act reversed that protection.

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>>59630614
>probably next year

So what you're saying is this is all just a neckbeard fantasy just like your gf and a world with endless tendies :^)

>>59630528
>Day of the Rope.
You should prepare for it by practicing on yourself.Extremists on the left AND the right are the real problem.You retards think everything is cut and dry.You're wrong,the middle ground is what's real.

>>59630723
Keep laughing, lefty. You'll see very soon.

>>59630703
If this is true, and you truly keep it to yourself, then I don't have a problem with it.
However
I would not hesitate to take action if that wasn't the case.

>>59630739
>haha im a centrist you guys taking sides are all dumb im so above it all because im a moderate
Kill yourself.

>>59628014
Not gonna read this entire thread but did someone point out that the whole "ISPs need to ask" never went into effect in the first place? Nothing has changed.

>>59630751
The majority of fucked up people do keep such things to themselves, including most people who would suffer from having their Internet behavior publicly revealed.

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>Normies think they can take away our waifus

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It's worth considering that the extremist positions on these boards are a side effect of the anonymous and ephemeral nature of 4chan. The way you change narratives on these sorts of sites is by repeating it endlessly.

So consider that the dominant narratives on this site are either from socially maladjusted NEET's who have nothing better to do, shills who get something out of it, and extremists who feel like it is some sort of moral imperative.

>>59629278
Because people would call me a cuck if I didn't

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>>59630746
I'm actually a moderate conservative, but keep fueling your dreams, big boy.

Also, how does Trump's cum taste? I'm assuming you suck him off every morning, just as all TrumpCucks do.

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>>59628014

Official poll

http://www.strawpoll.me/12630046

http://www.strawpoll.me/12630046

http://www.strawpoll.me/12630046

>>59630774
I don't classify doing it on the internet as keeping it to oneself. Doing it with others only normalizes it, and leads to communities being formed, see furries.

>>59630812
No option for national libertarianism? Are you even an american?

>>59630770
>you guys taking sides
None of you really are taking sides,though.You just make shit up as you go and try to scream over everyone else.Day of the muzzle is coming soon,nigger, and you'll be too hoarse to stop it.

>>59630770
>haha im a right winger you guys on the opposite of me are all dumb im so above it all because im extreme

>>59630819
>I don't classify doing it on the internet as keeping it to oneself.
You have no excuse not to. Keeping it to dedicated intended sites that are difficult to find has no impact on your children whatsoever.
>Doing it with others only normalizes it, and leads to communities being formed,
This is inevitable and necessary. People can't suffer in a vacuum. We need to share it with each other or else we can't be stable individuals who function in society. Communities for doing so aren't inherently a bad thing, as long as they don't become mainstream, like furries did.

Most corporations won't know how to get past the panda so they'll never know what I was browsing

>>59630802

There's nothing extremist about removing regulations that were only thought of 4 months ago and that were never in place to being with.

Also, why do these regulation only apply to certain companies and not others (Google and Facebook).

Notice how non of the Silicon Valley companies are protesting. Because they all collect and sell your data. Gtfo.

>>59630878
It's a very fine line and I would prefer to not to go near the line at all, let alone ride along it.
I think we will have to agree to disagree though.

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>>59630847
>he thinks he sounds intimidating.

>>59630847
>day of the muzzle
Fucking kek that's the most moderate thing i've ever heard. Pathetically laughable desu.

>>59630897
>we submitted an inquiry to your browser history and HR seemed to be alarmed about https://exhentai.org/?f_doujinshi=1&f_search=netorare
>hmm it looks like a harmless panda image, you got the job

>>59630912
>Also, why do these regulation only apply to certain companies and not others (Google and Facebook).
Because ISP's are a utility that you get very few choices about in a given area. You can easily avoid Google and Facebook, and if that weren't the case I would suggest identical regulations for those companies as well.

>>59630739
Middle ground is too nice in this environment, you really need to take a side and fight for it.

>>59630912
The main difference in the eyes of the consumer is that Google and Facebook offer you a service in return for your (claimed to be) anonymized information. You don't have to use Facebook, you don't have to use Google. Kind of like how 4chan stays active by ads or by getting a 4chan Gold account. They need to generate revenue.

However, you pay your ISP to give you service. I don't want to pay a company, then have them mine my information further, and sell it. I can't really "switch," especially when service providers already have near-total monopolies in areas for internet (I literally can only get either Satelltie or Comcast where I live.) Two towns over, it's just AT&T. So there's no additional alternative.

Removing a rule that wasn't enacted yet isn't as big a deal, sure, but it doesn't set a good precedent. Just like how gun owners don't like the idea of having a unscrutinized no-fly list; it sets a precedent towards something worse.

>>59630992
>You can easily avoid Google and Facebook,

No you can't, what a joke. Google Analytics is like on 95% of websites and Facebook tracks a lot as well. If you want a decent search engine, email, map, you use have to use Google. If you want to socalize with normalfags you have to use Facebook.


>Because ISP's are a utility that you get very few choices about in a given area.

Except you're wrong. There's countless of Mobile ISP. on top of whatever fixed line options you have.

>>59628447
>Use Tor
so I have to decide between handing my browsing history to my ISP who will sell it, or the government who will only analyze the """"""metadata""""""?

>>59630912
>There's nothing extremist about removing regulations
I wasn't talking about you, weon. There are reasonable conversations to be had about the size of government.

I was talking about the basement fascist shitting up this thread who hasn't been using this site long enough to realize that you can't intimidate anons.

>>59630227
Nothing to hide. Nothing to say.

>>59631052
4chan is full of powerful men with deep connections, this site manipulated the media and controls who becomes president now. You better watch what you say or you'll be gunned down like the animal you are.

>>59631037
>No you can't, what a joke
Maybe you can't. And even if you were right, I already told you that I would be in favor of such regulations for those companies.

>There's countless of Mobile ISP.
And dial-up, and microwave, and TCP/IP over carrier pigeon and also a bunch of other shit that can hardly be called decent internet access.

Let me know when you're interested in a serious conversation.

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All it took was giving beta incel cucks, unwashed NEETs, and self loathing victim/losers a reason to believe in themselves. That's all Trump did. And in exchange, people let him walk all over them and right into the white house. Now the government is gutting everything halfway decent in this shit country and the MAGA idiots are already concocting narratives about how Globalists corrupted Trump and how they have nothing to do with putting him in power.

>>59631162
If only someone could have seen this coming.

>>59631091
>I already told you that I would be in favor of such regulations for those companies.

Except you and other leftist did nothing for 8+ years. No legislation, nothing. Now you suddenly care about your privacy. Good one.

>can hardly be called decent internet access.

That's why more and more mobile ISP's are going unlimited, albeit with ~30gb cap, which is good enough for most normalfags. Then that's not including the 0 rating on shit like Netflix, Youtube, Spotify, etc.

More and more people are going mobile only because it's good enough.

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>>59630028
well put

>>59631162
Trump was our savior, a modern jesus and was going to make the country better for the NEETs who elected him. This is 100% the globalists fault.

>>59630028
Jump into an oven goldberg, I know it's you, you shifty kike.

Wtf I hate America now

>>59631236
wtf I love jews now

>>59628014
What is wrong with this? Now ISPs can sell the government ISIS terrorists browsing history and keep us safe.

>>59631262
(((Nothing to hide argument))) is instant red flag of kikery.

>>59631285
I agree. It's funny how easy it is to get a /pol/ack to sell his country to the Jews.

>Leak info about "capabilities"
>Little info on how often it is actually used
>Make people feel helpless to do anything about it
>Change policy to totally remove privacy and the need for warrents because it makes what they were doing illegally, now legal.
>Most don't realize what they've lost because they were convinced they didn't have it in the first place.

Forum control tactic: "Demand complete solutions"

>>59628014
There's nothing wrong with what happened.

Your ISP was selling your personal shit anyways. Who cares?

>>59631427
Because fixing the problem is better than letting it go on? Is this even a question?

/pol/ is unironically making me more liberal. All /pol/tards are mentally ill

>>59628014
nothing has changed
if anything this is more honest
it is stupid but it's not remotely new

>>59631542
>filler word
You were already a libtard.

>>59631542
/pol/ is full of mentally ill people and little kids, seriously the whole place is underage.

Isp is already selling your data. Anyone not already running vpn and 4chan pass is a baby. Go back to plebbit.

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>>59631574
Then why did they win the election?

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>>59631574
>>59631542

How do we kill /pol/?

>>59631588
>doesn't know that reddit's obscure tech subreddits have been better than /g/ since like 2010

heh

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>>59631574
>he doesnt know pol has infested all boards

>>59631607
Bring back moot and ask him to delete it again.


Containment boards are a bad idea because it just attracts more of them.

>>59631610
>>>/g/oback/

>>59631629
>>>/qa/

>>59631631
I've been here since 06, not leaving.

>>59631546
Didn't authority transfer from the FCC to the FTC, making ISP's a trade issue instead of a communications one?

>>59628014
Law never existed.

The "law" was a set of regulations created by the FCC under Wheeler that was supposed to protect consumer privacy.

Pai, the new FCC head and a vocal critic of said regulations, delayed their implementation to February so that Congress could use their prerogative to veto the regulations and prevent the FCC from ever making similar regulations again.

Nothing has changed since six months ago but now nothing ever will.

>>59631546
>if anything this is more honest
What the fuck are you talking about, they implemented a rule that would have prevented the status quo, and the GOP reversed it.

>>59631674
Can someone decifer this comie new speak to a southerner?

>>59630807
Going out of your way to say anyone who voted trump is literally sucking his cock sure does make you sound like One Of Us faggot.

>come to this thread expecting a cesspit of vituperous shitposting and counter-shitposting
>instead find some moderately artistic trolling
Well done, anons. I'm impressed.

>>59631478
Removing the "protections" does absolutely nothing though.

>>59629979
They were always both.

>>59631607
You can kill them by not responding to them

>>59630437
can i get that folder

>>59630929
>It's a very fine line and I would prefer to not to go near the line at all, let alone ride along it.
It's just not a choice incurably mentally ill people have. I can't "just be a man." I can't "just eat." I can't "just have a normal relationship." Because I can't do these things, I suffer. And because I suffer, I can't "just be quiet."
>I think we will have to agree to disagree though.
I suppose so.

>>59628482
HTTPS only protects the bodies, the URL is not protected

>>59630437
If you're doing anything degenerate online, deeply examine yourself and find the core reason you're such a freak, and expose that to them as well. That way, if they publish your degeneracy, you can publish the part where you explain yourself, and then you have the moral higher ground, because then it becomes obvious to everyone that they're just picking on a poor damaged soul who just wants to live his life and treat his psychic wounds behind the curtains and never asked for this.

>>59630035
It's been "upon us" for the better part of two decades. It would take something serious and shocking to normies to bring a proper revolt.

>>59631971
It protects the URL up to the domain itself. If you watched a YouTube video they would only be able to see "youtube.com"

>>59630035
Liberal tears stop being funny when the tears become gunfire.

Go fuck yourself you fucking lefty. Danger to America

but her emails :(

>>59632028
No it doesnt lmao.

>>59628052
Are you this fucking stupid? Why are you even on this board?

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>>59632102
normies get out

>>59628014
So, how many Americans are going to end up living in the street once the MPAA and RIAA buys this data?

>>59631739
I honestly have no idea if you're insulting me or yourself at this point.

>>59631664
Privacy rules were previously being regulated by FTC. It was a failed AT&T vs. FTC lawsuit, that prompted the FCC law.

If I wireshark my data and can't see it on my current machine, my ISP probably can't see it.. correct?
or do I have to wireshark on a MITM machine from my computer -> machine -> my router

Normie here. I keep seeing crowdfunding talk now to purchase peoples internet history...is that even possible/going to be possible? How far back can someone get your history if so? Is it really going to be that simple to fork over money and get anyones history? It seems like it would be a disaster for relationships, friendships, jobs, etc

>tfw

>>59632050
Erm... yes it does.

>>59628014
They just took it away from the FCC and returned it to the FTC, which is where it belongs.

>>59628652
what the fuck kind of backward logic is this holy fuck. That's like putting landmines on every block so that people will watch where they're walking a little more

>>59633891
The FTC privacy rules don't apply to ISPs as of last year when the Supreme Court ruled against the FTC in favor of AT&T. The FCC rules were put in place to cover the recently opened gap.

I lowkey wonder how you niggas think this isn't happening even without this rule or whatever the fuck not, like shit brah your ISP's are more than likely the biggest contributors to the violation of your online privacy, and you have to use their service.

>>59628014
get off the internet

>>59633891
Nothing has been returned to the FTC. That's one of the problems. It's the "repeal without replace" tactic.

>>59628014
you wanted corporate overlords, you got them.

>>59628447
>easyhtml5video dot com
can't even use ffmpeg to convert your webms, eh?

BASED TRUMP

MAGA

MAGA

>>59628014
>they call it freedom
hahahahhah

Welcome to the Surveillance State lads. I see now that what you meant by having a strong alliance was joining us in being constantly watched.

On an unrelated note is it possible to run internet out to a remote Icelandic farm

come to comfy 3rd world country like me living in Albania
cheap mercs
cheap weed
noone cares about technology rules since they sell cds with pirates games burned on them legally on stores

>>59628014
>Is this really Making America Great Again?
for corporations, yes. Who else did you think his friends are?

>>59634770
Yeah it's that vs government overlords.

Who's worse?

> All these liberal commie SJW tears

Praise KEK for the greatest timeline

All I can figure from this repeal is that a lot of the people opposing it are acting like selfish children. It's not even about privacy, it's about removing restrictions from companies (ISPs). If an individual wants guaranteed privacy from their ISP, that individual should sign up with an ISP that contractually agrees to honor his privacy. Forcing a company to sit on your browser history when they could be making money off of it is decidedly anti-capitalist, but more than that, demanding that the government ensure that all companies follow such a law is downright authoritarian. Either sign up with an ISP that explicitly agrees to not sell the data thry collect on you, or don't use the Internet. But don't throw a fit because you're not willing to compromise.

>>59636738
The whole appeal of Trump was that since he's already rich, he can't be bought. Wealth and greed have a ceiling, right?

>>59629496
Yet youre a degenerate on 4Chan

>>59628065
This.

Just use encryption whenever possible. Even though the NSA/CIA can break it, the ISPs wont. If you can't use encryption, just don't do anything you wouldn't do out in public.

>>59637064
I'm so tired of these double-digit IQ freetards thinking that companies will behave or that consumers are intelligent enough or have enough willpower to vote with their wallets in a manner that can shape the markets for the better.

This is the whole reason we're dealing with this shit in the first place. It's like I'm watching the prequel to fucking Idiocracy and it begins with alt-right counter culture dipshits on an anonymous image board who want to see the world burn because they've never been touched by a woman.

>>59637064
>that individual should sign up with an ISP that contractually agrees to honor his privacy.

Except no ISP does this. And why would they when they can make easy money just selling their logs that they already collect.

>>59633693
Your concern is right but gov would never let it go that far.

I bet your future employer (bank, marketing comp) from big company would be able to get such information about you, but your gf? Nah that would be too good to be true.

If it ever went that far, we would have free net already with anti-features already in it to counter this.

>>59637092
>since he's already rich, he can't be bought.
I was always baffled when I heard people say this. Particularly since the most greedy people I know are the richest people I know.

>>59631600
How did the screaming toddler with no money get the toy car he wanted?