>5 cents of silicon >10 cents of metal >Costs $500

Intel does the same thing.

>>59595380
no, intel has no pins so it only spends 9 cents

>>59595380
This thread isn't about Intel, you fucking shill. AMDrones are always saying that their stuff is good value, yet they can't explain this.

>AMDPoorfags will defend this

>>59595369
cost to manufacture, develop, and shill all over /g
is expensive.

>>59595369
>what manufacturing process does involve multiple steps?
>what those people need to be paid?
>what, AMD wants to make profits?

>>>/biz/

Paper money is just made of cotton, yet it's worth whatever number is marked on it. How can that be???

>>59595445
But I thought AMD was there for the people and just wanted to make the world a better place through crappy products

>>59595458
>what is marketing?

again >>>/biz/

>>59595471
Marketing is a trick by jewish companies such as Intel and Nvidia and Apple to prevent the year of the AMD powered Linux running Thinkpad.

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>>59595369
> arrange trillions of atoms and call it an "air plane"
> charge millions of dollars for it
How does Boeing get away with this?

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>>59595458
need help buddy? you seem pretty butthurt. i can tell from the pool of blood under your chair.

>>59595495
But my Nvidia GPU & AMD CPU powered Linux desktop tells me tje year is 2017.
>2017 Year of the Linux Desktop confirmed

>>59595509
>Amazing emulation

Ryzen is shit at emulation.

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>LHC spends millions of dollars to smash 10^-10 dollars worth of protons into each other...

>>59595369
>trick a rock into thinking
>cheap
Pick one.
>>59595396
Nigger, both companies do this shit. Both are under the same microscope now.

>>59595369
>5 cents of silicon
>10 cents of metal
>$900million USD of R&D
>$150million USD of advertising

>>59595369
>5 cents of silicon
>10 cents of metal
>$498.85 of energy expenditure

>>59595369

Because you're paying for the millions that was spent on R&D

Same goes for basically every product on Earth that isn't traded on straight material value.

>>59595451
Currency has gold backing it, ayymd cpus have 1s and 0s backing it

Take your pick

the R&D isn't shit compared to the costs of setting up a foundry

>>59595618
Post whose main point involves bitcoin goes here.

1 and 0's are more valuable than fiat. :)

>>59595369
H1B

>>59595495
woke.jpeg

>>59595537
It's better than Bulldozer

:^)

>>59595647
Yeah that's why corporate espionage exists, to steal data worth money
Bitcoin wasn't responsible for this you huge fag

Development and Manufacturing. How about I give you 5 cents of silicon and 10 cents of metal and have you make a Ryzen CPU you cuck

>all this complicated research to create a piece of metal so people can play overwatch, shitpost on 4chan, and check their normiebook

>>59595618
>Currency has gold backing it
not for a long time

>>59595537
there's no info on it at all considering bios aren't even working yet

>>59595369
Brb, going to the hardware store to get some silicon and metal for dirt cheap. I'm going to be rich! Thanks OP for the kind reminder!

>>59595427
>shill all over /g/

They do it for free

>>59595738
Cuck this. Cuck that. can we stop with this cuck shit you sound like a fucking idiot child. Jesus Christ sometimes this festering daycare of a website gets so cringe it hurts.

>>59595395
KEK

>>59595885
G E T
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>>59595369
6/10

>troll thread
>37 replies

8/10

>>59595741
To be fair the normalfags playing shit games and talking on facebook basically subsidize the people who do "useful" work. If those normalfags weren't buying the chips they'd cost a fortune and no one would be able to afford them.

>>59595885
t. c u c k

>>59595369
>but lest forget the amount of r&d and paying the workers who made it
dumb faggot

>>59595509
wow, that image is some real butthurt

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>>59595380
10 cents that outrageous, no wonder amd goin bankrupt

>>59595618
>Currency has gold backing it
As expected of an ignorant person.

>>59596006
DELID TH- oh wait

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>>59595959

>>59596040
>>59595959
neato

Can YOU manufacture a working CPU with 15 cents worth of material?

The R&D, combined with the costs of making a facility where producing these is even possible is what makes the cost so high.

If it were easy, competition would arise that would inevitably bring the cost down.

>>59595369
>Millions and millions worth of manufacturing equipment

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>>59595500

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>>59595959
That's a nice repeating sequence of digits.

>15 cents worth of raw materials
>has to be refined first which costs money
>machinery and facilities cost several billion dollars
>requires highly trained engineers costing potentially 100s of thousands of dollars each plus benefits
>several billion dollars worth of scientific research

>>59595618
>what is fractional-reserve banking?

>>59595369
AMD? More like AMJEW

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>>59595959
cheq'd

>>59595369

what is research and development

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>>59595369
>gather silicon and metal scrap
>mash them together into an 1800x
>sell for $450
>repeat
AMD BTFO

>>59597418
You can use the inside of your head as a clean room.

>>59597439
*echo chamber

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>>59595395
> 9 cents to make
> Charge $1000

>>59595369
>5 cents of silicon
>implying
It's expensive as fuck to refine silicon to the purity currently used. You're also forgetting the multi-million dollar set of masks for the 14nm lithography process.

>>59595565

>>$150million USD of advertising

Don't you mean Rupees?

>>59595369
You're not paying for the unit. You're paying for the R&D, employee salaries and new homes and speed boats for the stock holders.

>>59595885
does Jamal do you, too, after he's done with your wife?

>>59595369
>5 cents of silicon
Actually, a silicon wafer is about $100, depending. That's still a fraction of the cost of the manufacturing process.

>>59595369
>everything is made out of leptons, quarks, and bosons
>literally free in the air you breathe
>paying more than $0 for anything

>>59595369
>manufacturing process
>shipping and packaging costs
>cost for tendies

>>59595509
>amazing emulation
>shit single core performance
Top kek

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>>59595500
>Certain combinations of 1's and 0's are illegal

>>59595369
>tens of millions of dollars of research
>billion dollar fab
>production defects, losses, etc.

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>>59595451
>Paper money is just made of cotton
Its a blend of different shit, son.

You can tell the Intel shills are scared.

>>59595538
For time travel research you idiot

>>59595369
Yes because R&D costs nothing, and it's really easy to manufacture things @ nanometer scale.
/thread

>>59595885
You just called another person an idiot child. Yet you
>come to a website
>complain about it
>indicate it's not the first time you've done it

>>59595618
Not for canada and is still alive.

Jewtel CPU should be even cheaper with semen TIM and no pins.

>>59599240
how does this girl know how to eyefuck the camera at such a young age.

Jesus christ.

>>59595369
Give me your email and i'll ship you 5 cents of silicon and 10 cents of metal. I expect a functioning CPU in no more than 2 months. Oh and as thanks I'll pay you $20 for your help. Seems fair since the materials are so cheap.

>>59595396
>AMDrones are always saying that their stuff is good value, yet they can't explain this.

They're not wrong. When the processor market has two equivalent chips and one is half the price of the other one - all things equal - then guess what? The cheaper chip is the better value!

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>>59595959
FUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>59595618
This poor man was abducted from the past by a time traveler and was abandoned here.

>>59599590
>AMDrone
"""""""opinion""""""'"" disregarded

>>59600193
Come back when you understand basic econ

>>59595369
Have you ever seen a factory where these things are produced?

It is extremely complex and requires a lot of very expensive machines.

Only an idiot would believe that semiconductors are easy and cheap to produce, let alone easy to develop.

This true for all semiconductor companies.

I don't know there margined but they are definitely not in the $500 range.

>>59601322
And also.

The energy required to produce them is insane.

The semiconductor company in my city had to build there own powerplant, because at peak points theire former provider charged them with astronomical prices.

>>59595369
One single wafer is like 3000-5000 dollaroos you fucking moron. Also engineering costs billions.

>>59595395
No just 8 cents. They use cheap thermal paste instead of solder.

>>59595885
what color is your wife's son?

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>>59598576
certain regions of pi are illegal.

>>59595369
Sry would you pls kindly show me the cpu mine so i can wave my pickaxe a little and get my 1700?

>Implying printing, labour and transportation are free

Commie scum detected

Economically speaking sunk costs like development costs aren't considered when finding a price since these costs happened in the past. Like what if you invested a billion dollars into the development of a new CPU but the price optimum for that CPU is somewhere that only gives you a return of 800m? Do you stop the production then because it doesn't cover your research costs? No of course not since you would have a return of zero then. You take the 800m and better develop something better next time.

>>59599559
Gp ahead, I will sell you a p4

>>59601516
>fucking citroen

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>>59595959

>>59596006
That's 6 cents now

>>59595369
>several billions of dollars of research and development investment from AMD and Global Foundries

Yeah, totally unfair.

>>59601516
>werks on my machine.

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>>59595618
>Currency has gold backing it
Get a load of this guy, he doesn't know we all moved to fiat currency ages ago. It's how modern debt-ridden countries pretend they aren't broke as fuck. If we still used commodity money our bills would be worth negative dollars at this point.

>>59595369
>make chip for 10 cents
>sell for $10, 100x the amount spend on making the chip
>still go bankrupt, because didn't factor in R&D, salary of employers, cost of manufacturing

>>59595369
Just like Intel and Nvidia.

At least it's still cheaper for the same performance while costing the same much in raw materials.

What was the point of this thread?

>>59595369
>intel chips have less raw materials in them
>like no pins and cheap thermal paste instead of solder
>still charge more for them

How dumb are Intelfags?

>>59602617
>he forgot to mention the price of shilling on /g
what you think they don't pay pajeet for his hard work here?
don't be silly anon.

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>>59595618

>Currency has gold backing it

>>59595618
Money is just numbers in a computer controlled by the kikes.

>>59602684
imagine if he actually became president.
would've been fucking priceless
why is it these old guys with barely any time left to live actually promise decent changes that make sense? him and bernies promised a lot of the same things
but the system always cucks them and we end up with the same corrupt sacks of shit.