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What is the objectively best browser?

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What is the objectively best browser?
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>>59585103
vivaldi with vivaldihooks

also
>any flavor of sjwfox
nice meme
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>>59585103
i've tried webkit nightly. it is crap.
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>>59585103
Tor browser.
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currently chromium is the most standards compliant and speedy
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>>59585162
this
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>>59585103
Depends on what you want:
>Speed & functionality
Chrome
>Customization
Firefox
>Battery life
Edge

Ultimately, though, the difference between browsers is extremely marginal.
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>>59585148
Enjoy your botnet.
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I like SeaMonkey
>clean, functional aesthetic
>fast and secure
>complies with more standards than Pale Moon
>email client is handy

I used to use Firefox, but it just hangs for no reason on so many sites now. And I'm not going anywhere near Chrome.
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>>59585194
just use chromium?
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What about Qupzilla?
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>>59585210
No.
I am doing fine with my current set of browsers.
And I hate the Chrom* GUI.
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>>59585103
Using developer / nightly versions of browsers is placebo
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>>59585210
Still mostly botnet

There's a de-botnet Chromium on the AUR, though.
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>>59585103
(Chr)Opera.

It's the only browser that managed to do scaling properly on Linux (at least in my experience).
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>>59585103
>the unstable beta version of a browser is better than the normal browser
why?
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simply nightly.
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>>59585236
What is "botnet" about Chromium?
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>>59585158
this ^
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>>59585247
More up to date, more secure.
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>>59585103
QWebKit
>>59585117
>proprietary with proprietaryhooks
Go away, /pol/. You don't know how to use a computer.
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>>59585291
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>>59585291
show me a changelog of the beta build where there was a security patch that's not yet in the main version.
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>>59585271
The botnet portions, like where they call to google to ask what botnet blobs to install.
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>>59585271
Ability to remotely change source without user permission.
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>>59585305
faggot detected
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>>59585327
There's a reason the rest of the site thinks you're retarded. Get back to your containment board until you can FizzBuzz.
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>>59585387
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Vivaldi for main.
Edge for backup.
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>Vivaldi
>closed source

When will this meme die?
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>vivaldi
>nothing special

I contradict to say the least
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>>59585103
>What is the objectively best browser?
Ungoogled-chromium, Iridium browser, Inox browser.
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>>59585103
There's no exact one best browser. The best one is the one which satisfies all your needs.
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>>59585103
Chrome, unfortunately.
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>>59585614
>Opera
>Chink botnet
>god tier

Hypocrisy
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Good goy.. er I mean boy
Continue giving your support to our superior browser!
Firefox is shit, SHIT
Chrome, Chromium, Chrome canary, Chromex, Chromif, Chromederp etc are the only sane option!
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I'm gonna give Firefox Nightly a try. I've been on a new browser binge lately. Icecat is nice, so is Palemoon too.
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ungoogled-chromium is literally the only browser you should ever use

you can install chromium, log in to your google account and sync bookmarks/credentials whatever then apply the ungoogled patch and enjoy the credentials/bookmarks still there but none of the google shit or botnet
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Firefox is only hated on here because of /pol/tards leaving their containement board.

Edge is the next best thing.
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>>59585103
well, seamonkey of course, what a silly question
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What's the reason for using nightly? I'm gonna try it.
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>>59585772
You get newer firefox features months before the stable release. Other than that it's nothing special. It actually scores lower than firefox on benchmarks.
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>Firefox running perfectly fine
>close out of it
>updates without my consent
>fonts no longer work and I can't get them to work
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>>59585172
> What is privacy.
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>>59586187
>using windows
>complaining about unexpected/inopportune updates
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>>59586187
Disable skia (v52 its enabled)
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Were is fucking Tor/Onion?
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Personal Opinion:
Opera Classic > Opera > Firefox > Edge > Chrome > Safari

outdated pic party related
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>>59586262
Not a browser dumbass
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>>59586196
>What is autism

Oh no, Google can target advertising (that I don't see because adblock) toward me. Oh woe is me! My precious privacy is violated reeeeeeeeeeee make me some tendies mommy, the Google Jew is looking at my anime girl picture collection!
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>>59585103
>fucking subhuman trash talking about browsers botnet like it matters
>CPU has hardware level data collecting
>every browser collects everything
>every website collects everything you did there and where you went from there
>every service like email collects everything you did with it
>your cellphone collects and listens to everything you do
>your ISP stores everything you do

I guess you use windows 10 too for your fireshit uh
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>>59586420
Shut up.
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>>59586420
take your pills you schizo
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>>59586457
>S s shut up!
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>>59586470
well nothing he said is incorrect
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>>59586470
What is even slightly schizophrenic about that post you turbo autist?
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>>59586420
>>CPU has hardware level data collecting
I have seen this meme a lot lately, has anything new been discovered?
All I have seen so far is that there is a chip people don't know what does, but nobody have showed that it sends data anywhere or how it is used for spying on people.
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I use Waterfox without really knowing anything about it other than it looks nice on my task bar and it's made for 64 bit shit.
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I use gnu icecat
it's literally just firefox with a different name
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>>59586420
I'm actually less worried about the government being able to levy targeted surivellance at me than I am about some random russki-chinkski taking over my insecure web browser that was programmed by retarded CS dropouts.

Nothing the MAN can get is admissable in court, and nothing I do or have is worth the time and effort of dragging me off to millitary prison. Oh no, they might see my post on /o/ admitting to doing 80 in a 30, oooooh fuuuuck nooooo, brb guacamole bay.

Now, civillians protected by the holy EULA? They don't have such a problem. It was in the privacy policy and they reserve the right to call the police with evidence of any crime if they do not like you.

>Yes, FBI? Anon posted multiple copyrighted files on "four chan"
>Next call
>yes, copyright holder? there's a thieving bastard out there hellbent on having you be a mere tenthousandaire instead of the millionaire you deserve to be for selecting your government-subsidized profession.
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>>59586559
except you can't use flash
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>>59585103
Firefox, the alt-righter's worst nightmare.
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>>59586577
So you're saying it's better than firefox?
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>>59586544
You know even if you use only libre software and that x86 cpu and a VPN over another VPN and tor over it you will only get into the "100% terorist" watch list of your country

Being in a botnet is safe and good, you fap to cute female penises and stalk some random girl and no one will bother you because you are just another generic number among billions
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>>59586587
Depends. is flash a bad thing?
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>>59586594
Yes, even adobe agrees
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>>59586583
is it really the "alt" right when they have the fucking president?

the new alt right is religious social conservatives who can even be, get this, not racist
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>>59586196
Autism, essentially.
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>>59586594
>>59586607
Everyone agrees, the hundred exploits a month agree.
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>>59586630
So you guys don't watch videos?
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>>59586653
Who needs flash for videos? HTML5 is standard now. Flash is for places that haven't updated in years.
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>>59585103

Firefox because addons and their general philosophy.

Opera has some cool features. If you have a use case for their automation, their advanced shortcuts are a joy to use.
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>>59586196
Listen, if you are intelligent and consider things that do not immediately affect you, you have autism. What other autistic things do you do? Do you actually torrent anime illegally? Download music illegally? Fucking niche shit like that is for autists, if you were normal and not smart you would watch NFL and netflix and have more than two sexual partners

Be more like the black guys on TV and keep it real

Nothing to hide nothing to fear
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Palemoon is pretty good. I can forgive the author's furryshit.
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>>59585103
cyberfox
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Chrome is the best browser, period
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>>59586695
agreed.

proudly posted via chrome browser
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>>59586669
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Firefox Nightly seems kind of slow..
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>>59586718
Amen, brotha
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>>59586718
>proud of browser choice
>proud of 0.05 rupees into your bank account
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>>59586721
Depends on each release.

Sometimes it works, sometimes it's borked, sometimes it's shit.

That's the fucking point of "nightly"

except 99% of /g/ think it's the apex of browsers
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>>59586593
It is hard to know who is on a watchlist or why, it is not like these things are public knowledge, so claiming that if you use free software, you get on such a list is just speculation.

But knowingly participate in survailence just because you like to shoch whoever is watching is a bit bizare.

Yet it didn't answer the question:
Why do people claim the CPU is spying on them?
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>>59586658
HTML5 video is just as annoying than flash.

Autoplay crap. Ads that play themselves. Open a background tab and you've started to download some shit video. Browser freezes on multiple tabs because you're decoding a load of shit you don't want.

I block both html5 video and flash now. Nearly all the issues people had with flash are similar to the issues html5 video has.

Move the exploits from the flash container/actionscript. To the browser/javascript.

In reality, the flash container is probably better. Feature wise at least.
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>>59586779
>block both html5 and flash now
enjoy crippling yourself
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>>59586779
Flash is features nobody wants, javascript nobody wants anyway.

>>59586788
His method is the second most correct.

The MOST CORRECT solution is to block javascript, flash, AND html5 video that isn't spawned by your custom written userscript that disables things outside and replaces them with a direct embedded video tag of your own making.
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>>59586774
>this guy is spending a lot of effort and time/money to hide his actions
>add it to the watch/track list

Is not that hard, fag, if you want to be unnoticed you don't wear a trenchcoat and shades
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>>59586779
what sites do you go to?
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>>59586805
>not sharing your actions is hiding them now
what about people who don't do anything
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>>59585204
I forgot about the good old SeaMonkeys. Think I'm gonna have to give it a try again now that firefucks is going to total shit.
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>>59586788
lol

I have a magic button. If flash, I have to push it. If html5 video, I have to push it.
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>>59586774
>Why do people claim the CPU is spying on them?
It's just a speculation but it's what your cpu is *capable* of.
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>>59586818
you don't need to share anything, just don't forceful try to avoid generic tracking unless you want to have your life ruined in the autism court where you are forced to decrypt your furry porn or go to the jail as a child molester
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Why should I use anything other than Chrome as my main browser?

Red pill me on something please, I would like something better but everything I've tried is just worse.

Firefox is a no, look at that font rendering and performance. No thank you. Maybe there's a version of it that's reasonable.
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>>59586844
>Speculation
>Recent leaks dating back from Snowden
Choose one
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>>59586803

true. Though I personally have a small hardon for flash. Developing in a gui based environment is fun as fuck. It's also pretty good for making cool stuff.

Eg... https://pixlr.com/editor/
>flash image editor
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>>59586862
Opera is the best chrome flavor and the best browser in this age of shitty browsers

vivaldi had like 2 years and still is barebones and they keep adding pointless UI tweaks instead of actual features
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>>59586862
Opera is pretty much the same, but doesn't have problems with scaling and smooth scrolling (I mean pixel-by-pixel scrolling) on Linux. Also looks better in my opinion (definitely fits into KDE much better than Chrome).
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>>59586878
I dunno, I didn't write flash but it does have a cult following. Should have probly just learned SVG or something.
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>>59585103
sjwfox
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>>59586900
Opera have way more features than Chrome

Also, the chink pverlords that bought it are part of google too so its bretty much the same
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>>59586900
>>59586883
How is Opera in terms of dev tools? I use them a lot for work.
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>>59586878
>open the link
>realize I don't have flash player
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>>59586947
I guess the same as chrome, just try it
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>>59585103
qutebrowser
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>>59586903
You don't know what you're missing. It's really fun to use. Everything is compact. For web. Just upload a swf, done. Compared to...
>css files
>javascript
>html
>every browser dom is different
>canvas
>making sure everything is on the server and linked ok
>no good visual ide so gui is developed seperatly

You can also make android/ios/windows/os10 apps with it.

That feel of designing visually, drag and drop/ drawing styley, then attaching a bit of code to make it work, is underrated. It's fun.
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is firefox still so unsecure that pwn2own doesn't even bother including it?
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>>59587052
I can also just code for what I know and point it at a canvas though, instead of going to learn flash instead. Guess it depends where you're coming from.
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>>59585103
ungoogled-chromium. nothing else comes close unfortunately.
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Ok I went back to Firefox. Am I missing some essential addons besides noscript and/or umatrix?
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>>59587081
Flash versus canvas is an interesting argument. The flash ide is so good. You can have timelines in timelines. You can visually animate and pinpoint frames to trigger code. It's a real joy.
>it's rebranded now as "adobe animate"
>that tells the workflow style

Things like using bootstrap etc.. is nothing like drawing your own buttons on the screen. Same with using canvas. Actually drawing/arranging/moving stuff visually, is a completely different workflow than pure code, with a separate image editor etc...
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>>59587171
refcontrol maybe, do you really need greasemonkey AND stylish? Without umatrix you might as well at least grab privacy badger
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>>59587196
There are visual GUI designers that aren't flash which you could then theoretically dump into a canvas. I'm not sure if any of them exist specifically targetting it but some things can and do. Piping your input back into the server through websockets is another whole ordeal too.

There's probly SOME lightweight js library that can manage it currently but I dunno.
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>>59587199
You need at least greasemonkey to not be a 4chin pleb
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>>59585172

>Chrome
>>Customization

you are wrong. I'm not speaking from opinion. you are factually wrong.

Go do some research, you dumbass.

>inb4 citation needed
No, I am not doing your research for you. If you are mentally retarded, It's not my duty to fix you.
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I use opera developer and I really like it.

> build in ad blocker
> build in power saver
> good addon store
> awesome backgrounds
> just works
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>>59587243
Yeah I just always thought they were the same, equivalent userscript addons. I write my own userscripts I just never thought stylish did anythin different.
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>>59585103
My main browser is Pale Moon and my backup is Vivaldi.
Both are great and I see no reason to stop using either.
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>>59587199
Thanks anon, that's a valid point. I forgot that I can use greasemonkey for stylish related stuff as well and privacy badger seems ok.
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>>59587213
You can also use "flash ide". Then dump the assets into canvas.

"adobe animate" actually does basic canvas javascript. Basic as in, javascript/canvas in the dom is not as capable as actionscript in the flash container.

Pic related
>flash ide to make a rotating symbol
>File/publish
>makes two files
>.js
>.html

Takes about a minute. Can design and animate visually. Uses createjs
>flash/actionscript has way more usability though
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>>59587405
Honestly in the days of WebASM ahead I imagine flash could compile directly into some kind of bytecode and still be useful sans shitty-plugin. Might be preddy cool.
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>>59587249
i think you may need to get your eyes tested anon
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>>59585103
Chrome is objectively the best made browser.
Good security protocols are pausing all tracking and data collection based settings.
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>>59586407
Fucking lol
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>>59587199
Does privacy badger do anything that ublock origin can't already do?
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I can't live without these Firefox extensions:
>DownThemAll
>Tab Mix Plus
>uBlock Origin
>Video DownloadHelper

Do these exist for chromium-based browsers? Otherwise I'm never going to switch.
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>>59587509
Privacy badger is approximately equal to a ghostery or disconnect.me but EFF made. It's for people who don't know how to manually select this shit even with subscription filters.
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>>59587455
The flash container may make a comeback, it may not. But the ide is most definitely worthy of staying.

In that rotating box thing. If I want to move the box down. I just drag it down a bit. If I want to change the shape, I just click and change it, import images or video, whatever.

The workflow of it is why people love it. It's actually quite frustrating to downgrade to js. But I expect js/browsers will eventually be as good as the flash container. Could be several years though.
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>>59587551
Lots of people use flash even outside the web for animations. I think macromedia could have been a giant if adobe hadn't bought them out and literally inserted them bodily into the anus of the internet.
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>>59587516
>>DownThemAll
no
>>Tab Mix Plus
no
>>uBlock Origin
yes
>>Video DownloadHelper
yes, but it sucks
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>>59587516
Yes but some are renamed
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Opera 12.16
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>>59587575
same.

All the cool graphics development more or less stopped when adobe took it over. All the image based stuff went solely to photoshop, all the vector based stuff went to illustrator.

A complete shame. The way 'flash' handles the editing of vectors is still unique.You can shape lines without touching the points or handles. That alone is a reason to use it over iillustrator for some use cases.
>ffs adobe didn't even introduce brushes for lines, for a really long time

They really did stop development of the graphics tools when they took it over. They did update actionscript functionality though, and with AIR, you can make android/ios apps really easily. So it's a mixed bag.
>android apps are easy to make
>unbelievably easy
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What's a good mobile browser, all the ones I've tried are shit
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>>59587768
I've never written flash but I decompiled it a bit in the old days.
>With AIR
please god no.
There's also that Apache Cordova for generic webapps that could come into play with WebASM functionality.
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>>59587787
brave
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>>59587738
Opera was so perfect as broken for web browsing

I still hope someone use the leaked source code to update it to modern web stuff
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>>59587821
Air runtime is good.

>Make app in actionscript with a few air related functions/handlers
>embed runtime
>export as arm or x86
>export for ios too
Have an app/game compatible for multiple devices in no time. Only issue is designing for multiple resolution. But you can do that via responsive layouts and maybe switch some graphics if you want to reduce memory on small screen devices.

Designed with the same workflow of visuals first. There are way more android/ios apps out there than people realise.

Where did all the flash game developers go.
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>>59585103
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Is there anything wrong with Comodo Dragon? Been using it for awhile now, it's as fast as chrome but not connected to the Google botnet, but it's apparently disliked by /g/

any opinions or redpill on Comodo Dragon?? I'm willing to switch to Iridium if it actually is a botnet like >>59585614 claims.
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>>59587983
AIR has never been good on linux, which is the only environment I know.
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>>59585103
I can't leave Firefox and I fucking don't know why. It's feels so comfy compared to Chromium based browsers.
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>>59588019
Honestly it's probably because you mistake bloat and clutter for comfy. Your home is probably the same.
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>>59588000
The embedded runtime works well on ios/android apps. It really does. For games and stuff it's pretty good. It can be a little bit of bloat because you have to embed the runtime. But apart from that it works. You have most of the hooks into the os's hardware. Camera etc... all relatively accessible from 'actionscript'. Android though, so many devices with different hardware, it's not going to have everything that every piece of hardware has.
>had an issue getting control of the flash
>gave up because stupid level of code required for a stupid addon feature
>amazed that there are so many different types of code used to access the camera's flash.
>you would think hardware manufactures would have a standard for the flash, like they do for the camera/screen/microphone/network etc..

Using air is way more common for apps than people think. IOS especially. You don't even need to do responsive design. You design for one resolution and put up with a little bit of space in the game. It's so much easier than android with it's thousands of screen sizes, that a lot don't develop android at all.
>http://www.adobe.com/devnet/air/samples-mobile.html
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I use Palemoon and you can't stop me
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Arachne
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>>59588229
Stop my strong-minded son!
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>>59588226
I still think it should be somethign more neutral/libre like apache cordova PLUS webasm being a super focus of chrome/firefox gives you better optimizations than some arbitrary adobe runtime. I don't know if they even support webasm yet, but I can't imagine they'll get left behind by newer tech.

If I was hard developing something for cross platform support adobe would be the LAST thing I'd cling to. Even if it works well today, it won't be for long.
>unless flash lasts another decade beyond obsolete
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>God Tier
None

>Acceptable Tier
Brave

>Mediocre Tier
Firefox

>Fast Botnet Tier
Chrome

>Slow Botnet Tier
Opera

>Garbage Tier
Safari, Edge
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>>59588033
False, I can't function if my apartment isn't clean or organized.
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im going to start using text browsers from now on!
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>>59588324
Firefox is anglign towards fast-notbotnet-acceptable, it just might take a few years to accomplish that.
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>>59588229
Enjoy your 5 years old trash browser.
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>>59587249
Is this the normal level of reading comprehension in the US of A?
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>>59585214
Does nice, seems to be quite faster than firefox (imo), probabbly no bonett, sadly no real extensions, works on fuckin Haiku and OS/2.
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>>59588448
Don't worry about USA, there's always rogue pooinloos on /g/
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>>59588287
All separate things.

Flash container is mostly dead or nearly dead.
IDE, actionscript is alive and well.
Air/AS3/ide makes .apk .
Air/AS3/ide makes .ipa

They are all different. I honestly don't see Animate/air disappearing anytime soon. You can make cross platform mobile apps. Using the code that you know. And you can do it quickly. The workflow is also unique.

There are hundreds of thousands, if not more, flash game developers who still use actionscript. What people see is .apk or .ipa files.
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>>59586196
Something you already gave up in a post Patriot Act world and something that choosing a browser has no impact on.
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>>59585103
>Firefox Nightly automatically sends feedback to Mozilla.

enjoy your botnet
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>>59588586
>by default
Yeah, don't do things by default in any browser.
>>
Why is Waterfox considered a placebo? What exactly is meant by that?
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>>59588626
It basically boils down to
>I don't like it, but other people do. Must be a placebo!
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I'm a genuine /pol/tard, but my browser of choice is only Firefox or derivative. Yes, Firefox has gone full SJW and it is in-your-face obvious that Mozilla's C-level executives are far-left buffoons, but Firefox can be stripped down, heavily configured, and deeply modified. That is all I need in a browser. I love music, the my favorite musicians are far-left buffoons, but they do occasionally shut up and sing and play well. That is all I need in a musician. I am mature enough to ignore irrelevant things in order to get what I want, but Mozilla needs to stop pissing all over half its user base with the in-your-face insulting me with their far-left propaganda or I will eventually drop them entirely.
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>>59585572
/thread
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>>59588844
>I am mature enough
>I'm a genuine /pol/tard
Pick one.
>>
I like Vivaldi.

>>59585204
This one too.
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>>59588844
>firefox was deemed so insecure that they didn't even bother including it in pwn2own
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>>59588626
It was originally a 64bit port of stable Firefox, even though you could just use FF beta/dev to get 64bit support. Since FF stable supports 64bit for a few years now, waterfox is unneeded. For any new features you can use Nightly or Beta Firefox.
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>Sleipnir once again doesn't even make the list
>not even a single mention ITT

a s e x p e c t e d of the o n e true patrician browser
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>>59585103
>firefox
>stable tier
lmaoing my ass off
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>>59586407
This.
The browser you use has no effect on privacy, really. It's not like there's a room of people studying your history. If you do something illegal or suspicious your browser won't save you.
I'll go back to enjoying how easily I can transition between different devices with automatic website login through chrome.
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>>59585688
>log in to your google account
>your google account
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>>59587249
Learn to read, nigger. Also give a source based on what led you to believe that. Telling people to jewgle it provides dozens of sources that may contradict each other, you stupid fucking nigger.
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>>59585103
>>59585194
le botnet me me :^)
you guys have no idea what youre talking about, kek.
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>>59587516
>DownThemAll
No
>Tab Mix Plus
No
>uBlock Origin
Yes
>Video DownloadHelper
youtube-dl can download from other sites besides youtube now.
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>>59587996
Commodo Dragon isn't open source, therefore we don't know if they really removed google's propertiery blobs or if they didn't add one themselves.

I wouldn't recommend Iridium, though, since it also has some sketchy things. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9482689.

I would rather recommend Firefox or at least Chromium.
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>>59585103
GNU icecat is objectively the best thing ever.
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>>59589576
le cia niggers are out in le force le today
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>>59585162
This basically. Op just doesn't know shit about browsers, posts a random ranking of tiers without providing any benchmarks or tests.

I bet you rated fhose nightlies on top just because nobody uses them, which makes you extra special, OP.
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>>59585103
Chrome is the iPhone of browsers
It's just the fastest, easiest, the best the most user friendly and functional
>>
Firefox is objectively the best browser. If you disagree then your obviously objectively retarded.
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>>59591798
>the most functional
>iphone or chrome
very weak trolling attempt
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>>59591798
>Chrome is the iPhone of browsers
>Popular among normalfags; but actually walled garden, proprietary shit with better, more customizable alternatives.
Fixed that for you.
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>>59585103
Don't take this infographic seriously because the person who made it is an idiot. Brave is 2 tiers higher than chromium yet it itself is just chromum with a skin. And chromium is fine. If you're worried just grab ungoogled-chromium.
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Is x64 FF worth it yet, last I knew many addons didn't play nice with it.
>>
Just tested the latest Firefox, when and why did they remove pipelining?
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>>59586721
I find it's pretty fast when on 4chan or booru style sites but modern websites do run pretty slow in FF/Pale Moon/Nightly. Still comfy for 2D.
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>>59587249
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>>59587996
The only time I considered using a Comodo browser is when Australis came out and they promised to keep it out of IceDragon.
>>
>>59587996
Just use Brave senpai
>>
>>59585204
hows seamonkey?
will it go firefox path and drop old extensions?
>>
Does anyone have problem uploading images from Brave? It doesn't work for me on Facebook Messenger specifically.
>>
>>59592742
With SeaMonkey you need to use older extensions most of the time. I heard that the project is ending soon, though.
>>
>>59585103
I still don't know.
>>
>>59585103
minbrowser
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>>59586546
Then use 64-bit Firefox DevEdition.
>>
Lynx.
>>
>>59585204
Seconding this; Firefox started failing me around five years ago, and I've never looked back once switching to SeaMonkey
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>>59592742
Doubt it. SeaMonkey is designed to work like an old browser at the very core.
>>
Name a single speedy and aesthetic (color picker) browser, I dare you
>>
>>59595522
chrome
>>
>>59586661
>their general philosophy
Their general philosophy is to fuck all their users over constantly.

Do you enjoy being cucked, anon?
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>>59585103
>Firefox
>Acceptable
>Is laughably insecure

G8 b8 m8 r8 8/8
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>>59585103
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Ok, now what?
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>he fell for the chromium doesnt have botnet meme
>>
>IceCat for most browsing, set up for privacy and freedom
>Abrowser (the firefox fork included with trisquel) for visiting the occasional site that I need to that requires running non-free JS or something else malicious (I find it more efficient to have one privacy-optimized browser and another when that won't work, rather than enabling and disabling shit in a single one)
>Midori or lynx sometimes for lightness (lynx if I'm not using gooey yet want to browse for whatever reason)
>Tor browser for very suspicious links that I might encounter

why settle for one when you can use many?
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>>59588402
>implying it's not updated constantly
Good one smart guy
>>
I switched to iridium lately and it's pretty comfy
>>
Is chromium REALLY a botnet? I use slimjet and it doesn't phone home to google from what I can see. And if I want to save/import browser settings I just login with a slimjet account instead of a google one, although I don't use that anyway.
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hm this search engine thats default on Iridium looks pretty good. red pill me on Qwant search engine, /g/
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Is Iridium as customizeable as chrome? White websites are hell on my weak ass eyes and I enjoy being able to install grey/dark blue themes via stylish for things like youtube.
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>>59597216
>>59597374
I had it a while back, has it changed? All I remember is that it just looked like a generic chrome fork with some privacy features built in.
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>>59585103
UNGOOGLED CHROMIUM
IGNORE ALL OTHER SHILL SHITPOSTS
>>
Iridium sucked for me. It was fine at first but then all of a sudden I kept getting errors and nothing was showing up anymore. I tried a bunch of other things but it was still the same. Shame becAuse I kinda liked it.
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Your opinions on this so far?
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>>59597768
>that taskbar
lmaoooo
>>
>>59597768
doesnt matter, they killed it before it was born
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>>59597768
I won't use it, but it looks like an alternative for normies. I think they might like all those bubbles.

And seriously though, I think it's pretty interesting. It seems kinda like a desktop for web apps. It really might be the future, but I don't know if the future of web apps is close enough for such browser to be successful. It won't replace my current browser though and I don't even use web apps too much, so yeah, pretty cool but that's it.
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>>59597645
>Firefox 5.0
>>
>>59598324
>>59597645
cause modern spidermonkey always wrecks v8, nodemonkeys consistently btfo
>>
im back on chrome after using opera. i cant rly decide between the 2. the others are all shit
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>>59587171
DownThemAll! and FF DEEPDARK
>>
>Ctrl-F
>mothra
>nothing
And I thought this was a tech board.
>>
>>59586196
>privacy
>the internet
you realize that is a contradiction right?
>>
>>59585103
Chrome is objectively the best browser. It sells your worthless data and in return you get the best browsing experience. Seems like a good deal.
>>
>>59592685

>Can't change font size
>God awful start time - even on SSD
>Can't choose download location

Nice meme.
>>
I have normal Firefox, is there any reason for change/upgrade?
>>
>>59598995

SJWs have taken over Mozilla.
>>
>>59585103

>Bleeding edge
>Any firefox variant

It's near IE in terms of being behind with web standards.
>>
>>59598964
Honestly it works the best for me.
>>
Where is the proof that opera is botnet?
>>
>>59599029
So what are my options?
>>
>>59587171
Hide Caption Titlebar Plus and FlashGot or VideoDownload Helper.
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I thought iridium was supposed to be secure? Every time I use it it seems to be phoning home to google.
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>>59599355
It does that to get your shit from chrome.
>>
>>59599416
what shit? why would iridium even allow this?
>>
>>59586803
>that isn't spawned by your custom written userscript that disables things outside and replaces them with a direct embedded video tag of your own making
post it
>>
>>59599440
which one? viewtube is the gold standard, but simple stuff for one off sites aren't tough once you get the hang of it.
>>
>>59585103
firefox has been shitting the bed really bad lately what should i replace it with /g/?
>>
What's the best ad blocker, using Ublock Origin now but i'm seeing some ads get by.
>>
who /opera/ here

I got it years ago and it is still my go to browser, I haven't been bothered to change it, the only reason I would is if I feel the need to play kongregate games again
>>
>>59588844
/g/ hates ffox because it's bloated garbage, not because they're sjws. sjw is just a sign to abandon ship.

as a fellow /pol/lack I advise you at least move to pale moon. it's stripped down ffox, much more secure and lightweight.

>>59589155
>only being able to see like 5 tabs at once
>>
>>59599491
12.16 masterrace reporting in
>>
>>59587048
this. anything else is fucking pleb tier.

but it needs to develop security addons like xombrero had. has anyone been able to get html5 working in qt on oBSD btw? I heard it should be possible
>>
>>59585627
Also isn't Opera just chromium with a skin?
>>
>>59599485
same, determined porn ads keep getting through, it loads the page I'm on on another tab then switches the current tab to an ad

why don't browsers have a "don't open another window/tab unless the user commands it so" option
>>
>>59599495
>/g/ that can't configure firefox hates mozilla because impotent autism rage
/g/ents that can configure firefox hates mozilla for being sjws. There's no reason not to hate mozilla. Firefox is.... okay. It's better than the alternatives once you go to work on it. It's not the browser that is a SJW.
>>
>>59586407
Fuck off CIA nigger, just because you don't care about privacy doesn't mean anyone else doesn't
Fucking cuck.
>>
>>59599504
what do you like about 12.16
>>
>>59599542
The plethora of features. Chropera's an insult to anyone who's used Opera.
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>>59585711
We hate it because it's made by SJWs and it just so happens it functions like shit. 28 was the last acceptable Firefox version. Everyone else moved to PM.
>>
>>59599555
o..oh, well I've been auto updating, I'm on 44.0 now
>>
>>59593633
fuck

if /pol/ can find a flag from contrails can we get /g/ to keep up this beautiful software?
>>
If you do any type of web programming you'll probably have to have chromium or chrome. Hands down the best.

The best experience (historically) for general use is conkeror. Not konqueror
>>
Is umatrix the add-on for Firefox that is supposed to be a more efficient version of NoScript?

Ublock origin is the faster alternative to Adblock plus, correct?

Smart HTTPS is the lighter alternative to HTTPS Everywhere, correct?

Are there any other add-on alternatives that are better performing than the old standards?
>>
Ungoogled-chromium, easily
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>>59599584
>We hate it because it's made by SJWs
You literally just proved his point.
Dumbass.
>>
What would chromium do for me that chrome doesn't already do
>>
>>59599713
Umatrix is like a combined version of noscript + requestpolicy. Allows you to disable 1st party stuff as well as requests to 3rd party in an easy matrix UI. It's pretty fuckin great with custom filters and has some little strict HTTPS and referer junk in there too for good measure. It's very nearly all you need at a bare minimum.
>>
>>59599729
No shit, he wasn't wrong.
>>
servo when?
>>
https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium

is that what I use to ungoogle my chromium on debian?
>>
>>59586844
not even that.. fucking motherboards have ARM chips on them now and can compute without cpu & ram in the mobo at all..
>>
>>59585103
I used to be a firefox diehard since i couldnt get rid of my tree tabs and there was no alternative on chrome.

I tried out chrome and it was way too fast not to switch.

I tried all sorts of things to speed firefox up but even with those it wasnt fast. I dont care if they collect data, it's fast as fuck
>>
Microsoft Edge is the fastest, thus it's the best
>>
>>59600138
>the fastest is the best
epik meme
>>
but OP there are only 3 browsers.

webkit + fluff, gecko + fluff, microsoft.dll + herpes.
>>
>>59586567
what is parallel construction
they can still use it, they just have to get creative.
and the goons they hire are not above selling it to other governments/criminals
>>59599041
>standards
while chrome is doing EEE and breaking all standards.
SJWfox is the only standard compliant browser period.
>>59599504
>>59587738
why not 12.18?
https://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/1218/en/Opera_1218_en_Setup_x64.exe
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>>59600195
>why not 12.18?
Because it's Windows-only.
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>>59599495
makes me sad
i've been using firefox since the start, coming from it's predecessor, mozilla internet suite
but i've recently start trying out chromium, as the future of firefox looks uncertain
>>
>>59600467
Nah the future of firefox is guaranteed the present is just kinda shitty.
>>
>>59585148

Jesus, I hope you're baiting with that botnet shit pic.
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>>59586774

Because of posts like this (pic related).
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>>59585158
>>59585274
>>59586262

Fucking dumb assholes with your tor browser meme. Educate yourself.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13623821
>>
>>59586774
>Why do people claim the CPU is spying on them?
Because it is.
Its not even a conspiracy or debatable.
Intel has more control over your PC then you do.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Active_Management_Technology
>>
>>59601006
>don't use Tor
>use chrome, which spies on you by default
Out of curiosity, where did the CIA agent write why tor sucks?
>>
>>59585148
This may actually be an accurate pic.

>Firefox
nothing
>Safari
not much
>Edge
Quite a lot
>Chrome
basically streaming your mind processes online.
>>
>>59601411

Kek
>>
>>59600711
>it exists at a level below the OS
>a cpu

I'm not even an electronics expert but that simple sentence shows how much bullshit of a post it is.
>>
>>59601411
something like that. i just made this based of my opinion and because it pisses firecucks off.
>>
>>59588851
>>59585572
Speaking of the devil, had any of you had any success building ungoogled 57 for windows?
>>
ZAC browser
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZAC_Browser
*reduces the number of user interface controls, simplifies user experience.
*automatically switches and organizes icons on the screen
*has an live aquarium wallpaper

how can other browsers even compete?
>>
I use Chrome for good ad blocking but i am open to any alternative. Tipsport?
>>
>>59601730

By that I believe he means it exists at the physical level. Though I don't exactly know what the fuck this thing is that he's referring to, but it clearly doesn't tamper with the OS. It's just able to get access into peripherals and physical hardware.

It seems like a shit post, but I wouldn't be surprised if this technology has been done before.
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>>59600546
i don't mean firefox is going to disappear, i'm just not liking the direction it's going
i don't really like what chromium has to offer either, so i'm a bit stuck
>>
>>59601952
The direction firefox is going is better than it's ever been, they're just going to have to fuck up a bunch of addons to get there.
>>
>>59602020
there's some nice looking things they've been talking about, but now and the near future is not a good place
>>
>>59602062
exactly, it will get better than ever but first it has to get worse.
>>
>>59601805
>Chrome
One of those free GNU/Chrome forks which take days and dozens gigs of memory to compile.
>>
Firefox has the worst performance of any browser. It's literal shit tier.
>>
how do you guys know that certain browsers are botnets?
>>
>>59585103
Brave.
>>
>>59603739
The idiomatic adage is "botnet until proven innocent".
>>
>>59603768
then how did others prove not being botnets?
>>
>>59603844
wireshark
>>
>>59603874
ahhhhhh got it
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