Tech nostalgia >back when things were wonderfully shitty

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one of my CD racks, untouched since 99

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>>59571717
nice rack

I'd add FlightSim98 to it though

>>59571677
>this all could run on less than half a gigabyte of RAM
>nowadays multiple gigabytes are needed for pretty much the same

Does anybody else miss LucasArts?

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>>59571939
Yeah, their games had such character, man. Monkey Island and Grim Fandango especially lol

>>59571939
Yeah, Rogue Squadron was awesome

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>>59571677
That webpage is 25 days older than I am

>>59571910
You could run it fine with around 32 MB of RAM. Maybe even 16MB could be enough to browse the web.

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>>59572030
>people born in 1998 are old enough to browse 4chan

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>>59572091
Considering I started browsing 4chan when I was edgy 16 y/o, there are probably people posting right now born after 9/11

>>59572632
that's the day i dropped ie and netscape and switched to opera. what a wonderful decade. too bad opera is shit since it dropped presto.

>>59571717
>Midtown Madness 1
>MM2 isn't there

>>59571677
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/sweetbroandhellajeff/

wow, I was taking macroeconomics during that month. I remember because a girl with giant tiddies kept flirting with me in class. Yes, she let me play with them a month or so later. Too bad she was an emotional manipulator.

Oh yes, I remember using Alta Vista to search for shit at the student employment office.

>>59572034
Considering that there are tabbed web browsers for stock Amigas and they had something like 8MB of RAM at a push, then it really shows how fucked things are now.

My issue is never resource usage, just resource usage that should happen or exist.

>>59572030
Kill yourself faggot

>>59573515
Lol you're gonna regret that kiddo

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If you were invited to a LAN party to play CS it meant lugging your ATX tower and CRT out to your car and dragging it back home at 5AM. I don't regret any of it.

Have this CRT sitting on my garage floor. It weights about 80 lbs.

>>59571677
There's a reason they called it "Nutscrape Navigator"

>>59571677
It was shit and your memories are shit.
The quality was shit, the download speed was shit and the information was mostly shit.

>>59571717
My OCD hurts

>>59572091
>TFW I am one of those kids

>>59571717
> no CART: Precision Racing

>>59571677
When did the internet go so wrong?

>>59575347
After the peak of dial up ......

Feels bad man

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>>59572030
>"b-but /g/ isn't cancer, anon!"

THIS IS ALL THE PROOF YOU NEED.

>>59572632
This is hard to swallow.

>>59571717
Honestly I'm just nostalgic for the concept of CD racks.

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>>59572091
>early 99 babies are finishing up their senior year of high school

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzk9MsD51s8

>>59572091
I was born in '98 and I have a mixture of contempt and apathy for people my age.

I look at all this web development and mobile app development that is storming the computer
programming sphere, and I'm just not interested.

I technically have a smart phone, but I rarely use it and more like to use BASH than a simple graphical interface.

I envy the days of LAN parties where people would haul their computers and play CS or Quake over a local connection. In high school I have some of that, we have LAN parties with consoles and me and some of last years Seniors played a whole lot of classic Doom in the library.

Maybe it's because my brother is older than me, and I tended to hang around him when I was younger, but I just have an admiration of the 90s and 00s.

I can appreciate high level programming, but I feel like Carmack put it best that "low level programming is good for a programmer's soul". I like to stay close to the hardware in my programming.

I guess I can summarize my feelings like this.

> Take the lessons of the past to create a better future.

>>59579557
I guess my contempt for people my age comes form the fact that when I was younger people who held my interests where always older than me.

I tend to fit in much more with people older than me than those younger than me or at my age.

Maybe I was just born in the wrong generation.
Maybe I should've come into adulthood in the 00s than the 10s.

The internet, computing was better before than it is now.

All of this social media I cannot care less for.

Computer science is becoming so mainstream and politicized that the only way I hold on to it is by reminding myself that my kind of people, the people that came to CS themselves and taught themselves, who are truly passionate about CS, are always there, I just need to dig deeper.

>>59574441
is it really that heavy?
always felt light as fuck thanks to the handle, i guess

>>59579557
>>59579623
'95 here, CS major, and I agree completely.

>>59579681
That isnt an iMac. Its a 21" studio display. It weighs 77 Lbs. G3 iMacs weigh 40-35 lbs depending on model.

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>>59579623
>Computer science is becoming so mainstream and politicized that the only way I hold on to it is by reminding myself that my kind of people, the people that came to CS themselves and taught themselves, who are truly passionate about CS, are always there, I just need to dig deeper.
That hits home real hard.

>>59579846
>Chad
>writing code

Frankly at this rate what I'd say to others who have become a bit alienated with computer science, who feel it has become too politicized and that people are far too obsessed with employing people because of their "diversity" and not their skill is this :

> If you can't outnumber them, outgun them, engineering has always been an arena of skill. When people read about you in the history books it will be because of what you made, not so much who you are.

> Be passionate, read up on the latest developments of CS, tinker, hack, whatever suits your fancy, but make sure that you never lose sight of why you are really in CS, because you love it.

I genuinely raged half the time I used the Internet back then due to how slow it was (and how young I was), yet I was compelled to keep using it.

No matter how far computer science is made into a "progressive" shit hole, there will always be the homebrew folks, the hackers, the people who bore computer science as we know and will survive it regardless of its public status.

There will always be the romance of the hacker and the computer, the stories and tales of MIT AI Labs, Bell Labs, and the game and computer devs that were rock stars in their time, and myths in ours, will always survive, and for those of us who really belong here, who live and breath CS, they'll be what drives us, they'll be what makes us proud to be who we are.

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>>59580147
That really depends on who's writing the history books. Remember Dr. Matt Taylor?

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>>59580068
>>59580147
Thanks guys you seriously cured my depression about my major, and I don't mean that in a meme way. I feel great after reading that.

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It is the intimacy of listening to a computer purr into life upon start up.
It is the beauty in the concise code of a program.
It is the clicks and clacks of a keyboard, that hum to the tune of our thoughts.
It is the late hours of debugging, and the relief in our breathe when the compilation finally succeeds.
It is the artistic order of a circuit, mapping the flow of electrons like the flight of the stars.
It is the sense of mastery we feel over a machine, the authority we hold over a computer, a servant to bend to our commands.
It is the heart that we feel beat upon the first compilation of a program, the breathe that dries our tongue as we wait anxiously in that moment for success.
It is the sweat, and concentration that we pour into our work, the eureka's, the walls of frustration awaiting the hammering of our breakthroughs.
It is what we feel as the hackers, the enthusiasts, the home brew.

And it is not what the feminists, the "progressives" feel.

>>59579557
I was born in 1961 and I feel no contempt for you

>>59572632
>there are probably people posting right now born after 9/11
And yet you don't leave. I know I can't. It's weird. Like some sick relationship you keep coming back to.

>>59579681
I set that 21" apple display on my desk and it started creaking badly. It sits on my garage floor until I can build a "real" desk for it.

I got it from a geologist who was selling his house, and it came from his deceased brother. I also purchased a morgan dollar from the guy. I like to have a story with every weird bit of hardware I buy.

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>>59572632
>>59580764
Oldfags unite!

My dad taught computing classes during the arpanet days when you had to place the phone on the modem suction cups. There was no network and he had to drill holes in the hallway walls to poke the phone cord through and drag it halfway across the building to connect the minicomputer.

>>59580922
>the median age of the first poster is 23 years old with a +/- 7 year deviation
>the second poster 56 years old
not really in the same age category tbqh

>>59572632
fuck

One time with my robotics team we were holding an event at a local restaurant teaching kids about robotics, and there was this Dad who was a Software Engineer and must've been 40 years old or something (didn't ask him his age).

After realizing he was a Software Engineer, I said, "Finally, I can speak the language of my people!" and proceeded to go in depth talking about the programming I did for the robot's AI and user control programs.

After speaking about my programming, and then the gripes I had with Java and Android, the software language and environment that FTC (FIRST Tech Challenge) had us use that year, he noticed that I was very particular with memory and processor usage. I said that I felt using Android and Java for robotics was very much overkill, as I felt that we could've used a micro controller with some C or assembly to do the same job on much less resources.

> Funnily enough he said I would've like COBOL back in his day.

>>59581157
Or I think it was COBOL, I don't remember what specific language he mentioned, so don't quote me on that.

>>59581173
I know a COBOL programmer. She works for the state and maintains their systems.

>>59571677
Yes, the time before OoT.

In 2016 the FTC changed the language that we used to program the robots from RobotC to Java, because of their shift from the NXT's to Android smart phones, partially because it was supposed to be more stable (it wasn't), and also because Qualcomm and FIRST were barebacking each other at the time.

While it was my mentors and not me that worked extensively with RobotC, I preferred the idea of utilizing a procedural paradigm when it came to programming the robot's autonomous.

In the FTC competitions, especially this year, unlike the FRC, I found that the vast majority of scenarios that the autonomous program of the robot would have to face are static, they are not dynamic.

In a dynamic environment, the robot would have to be constantly reading it's environment, taking values and acting on those values accordingly as outlined by the functions. This I would find as more interested AI programming, where different routines would be called in dependent on the environmental situation.

However, this year's competition was a lot more static, for the most part it was a flat field, and the debris did not give way to much dynamism.

Additionally, the application of OOP only went as far as objectifying the motors and sensors of the robot into their own respectively tied methods and variables.

So, what I did within the Java programming language that they had us use was to write a set of methods that I referred to as the autonomous "instruction set" in the robot's main linear op mode program. This instruction set essentially allowed to relay commands to multiple motors and sensors at once, and made the autonomous code a lot easier to understand on paper and a lot easier to debug.

I didn't really see this in any other team's autonomous, but that was mostly due to the shear amount of motors that my team used in our tank of a robot, and also the fact that while everything thought procedurally, hardly anybody thought to further abstract the procedures of object method calls...

>>59581449
...into a formal set of commands in the form of methods.

At the end of the day, this was more or less me trying to make peace with the language and software FIRST had us using, considering the fact that ideally I would be using a micro controller and assembly code directly referencing and relaying instructions to the motors and sensors based on their addresses on the board and in memory.

Robotics, especially at the level of FIRST, is something that I feel someone like me could program at a much, much lower level than they allow.

It was more or less possible with the NXT's considering they are just regular micro controllers and injecting assembly code is just a case of learning the cpu's instruction set, but with the Android phones they have us use, with clear instructions not to jailbreak, as far as I can tell it's out of the picture.

>>59572632
Like me. 2003

>>59579623
kys snowflake

>>59571939
You mean Lucasfilm Games?

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>>59579879
good catch brah

>>59580826
Do you also have the power cable for it that plugs into the back of the G4 it was sold for?
Ive always wanted one of the 21"s but my 17" ADC is nice enough if scratched to hell (RIP screen.)

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>>59580168
my favorite pic of all time

>>59572632
I was 12 or 13 when I first started browsing image boards. Now I'm 22.

Yet I'm still not used to not being the youngest around here.

Went to work with my mom at the national reserve bank in 98 for vring your kid to work day and used a computer for the first time,printed out pages of pokemon descriptions and stats.

Really wish I was into computers back then but baseball was life.

>>59585918
>Federal reserve bank
Fuck

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>>59585918
>baseball was life
get da fuck out my /g/

>>59585938
Nigga do you even sandlot?

>>59586045
I've seen the movie. By myself. As I was working on my members.aol.com homepage in 96.

>>59571717
ISO the Bodyworks 5.0 and upload please.

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>>59588269
You just want the hot girl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyqWm8Inc3M

>>59588516
>bodyworks
>hot girl

hmmm maybe im wrong about what bodyworks was... i thought it was a game?

>>59588575
no it's like a SORT of interactive encyclopedia of anatomy.

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>>59588650
I was thinking of Bodyworks Voyager, sorry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4YXZqjs2cE

>>59588784
Oh what the fuck I would have loved this as a kid

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>>59588650
>>59588784
>>59589190
[intense screaming at a ludicrous volume]

>>59589590
boy i'll take your body on an adventure but ur not gonna like it

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>>59571939
>>59571956

If you like those old point and click adventures, Ron Gilbert (the man behind Monkey Island) is releasing a new point and click SCUMM adventure this month:

https://thimbleweedpark.com/

>>59574538
Fuck off petulant child. One day the same will apply to you. If you had a shred of intelligence, you would arrive at this conclusion and be less arrogant.