XPS 15

Stop making this thread.

It's not a thinkpad p50.

>>59563862
What kinda graphics card does it have?

>>59563908
This.

>>59563862
ugly carbon fibre

OP has buyers remorse

>>59563862
It's not to 13. Same power in a smaller, more comfortable form factor

>>59563862

13 inch is superior

flaw in this picture is Windows 10. Its easy to put macOS on a XPS 13.

Its a great replacement for a MBP but thats about it.

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It's a laptop. That's the entire flaw.

I've had two laptops and I never had any use for their portability except when I was in Spain and I wanted to fix my cousin's laptop because his install of Windows was corrupt so I bought a laptop to download an ISO and put it on a flashdrive.

>>59564228
Some of us go outside though

Coilwhine

>>59564246
I go out every day. I do commercial refrigeration in San Francisco so I'm also constantly driving.

I really haven't seen a need to use a laptop except if I was a teenager and wanted to play games at a friends house. Other than that I use a tablet at work for work orders. This leads me to believe that if you see someone using a laptop in public then it's more of a thing that they have nothing else better to do and they might either use it as an excuse to be around people or just try to look cool. I don't know anyone who would say, per say, go to a coffee shop to work on something on their laptop. It just doesn't really happen for a pure work experience.

>>59564155
mobile 1050

>Webcam on the bottom of the screen
Useless

>>59564206
>same power
no, the 15 has a HQ processor (4c/8t) while the 13 has a U processor (2c/4t), and the 13 doesn't have dedicated gpu

>>59564358
Well... looks like I'm buying one then. Can't wait to play Yooka-Laylee on it!

>>59563862
>15"
That was hard

>>59563862
erm, it's not a thinkpad edge?

>>59564219
13 inches is just an oversized phone. i prefer to work comfortably with a 15 incher

>>59564294
What if you commute by train or have gaps in your schedule?

>>59564294
let's just say tradies like you live a 'unique' lifestyle and it isn't similar to professionals and students

>>59564521
Nah, 13" is more than enough. 12" is ideal.

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>>59563862
> holy shit did they run out of gloss?
> why the 2 tone color, why not make the whole thing just black?
> why does the end of the laptop have to cone shaped and not flat?
> why the fuck arent the arrow keys normal sized?
> Also, holy shit it is WAY over glossed up

>>59564550
>12" is ideal
if you're 12 maybe because then you have small fingers and narrower peripheral vision.

>>59564575
No, for people in general. Maybe if you're blind or an ape either the screen or laptop would be too small for you but those are fringe cases.

>>59563862
uefi tbqh

>>59564603
wtfruetaymfpos?

>>59563862
Find a flaw? It's being sold with Windows 10.

>£1,300 starting
>doesn't even have its own OS
>trying to price like a Mac for half the product

Why do Windows OEMs get away with this?

>>59563862
>Generic track pad
>Shitty plastic
>Awful bottom border

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>>59563862

>ctrl f glossy
>0 results

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>>59563862
>Find a flaw.
Keyboard with Razer-tier shit font that feels stiff and awful. Trackpad is overly sensitive like my prostate and feels like recycled rubber, impossible to right click on. Everything else about the laptop is better than most other laptops but having a shitty keyboard and trackpad is a sin.

>>59564656
>t. europoor

>>59564657
>Generic track pad
arguably the best trackpad besides macshit

>Shitty plastic
nothing about this laptop is plastic

>Awful bottom border
16:9

>>59564667
>>59564669
Tell em right fuckas.

>>59564748
>16:9 is the reason the bottom bezel is fucking massive
You're dumb.

>>59564730
>2015
there's your problem.

>>59564667
>TRRS jack
How is this a con?

the buttcrack line in the touchpad, as well as muh carbon fiber racing car texture lmao

>>59564637
lol urite

>>59563862
Placement of webcam.

/thread

>>59564762
Ok 16:9 & webcam placement. Happy?

>>59564667
You can get matte screen

The keyboard is OK

The trackpad is the best of any in Windows

Absolut nothing wrong with the hinge and it is hyuge making even more sturdy

>>59564730
Two finger touch right click is superior

>>59564818
No. The webcam's in the bottom bezel because they wanted the top to be tiny.

>>59564972
At the cost of also increasing the size of the bottom bezel???

>>59565026
Clearly

>>59564730
>microgamma
>shit font

leave

>>59564542
I am a professional.

And students have school hours to work on their essays. Or when they're home.

>>59565316
>duct monkey
>thinks he has an opinion on a technology board

if we wanted to discuss different types of fasteners or other meaningless lower class tier shit we would ask.

>>59563862
it's heavy

>>59564228
>so I bought a laptop to download an ISO and put it on a flashdrive.
>not just using your smart phone

>>59565337
implying my career choice makes me a monkey.

I've been deving for years but with no results because it was just hobby work. And if you want to play that game, I work with COMMERCIAL refrigeration which all have boards and electronic pieces. And fasteners? Are you sure you know what you're getting into anon?

>>59565353
I tried to use my phone to download an ISO but I was using some shit tier internet and my cousin's laptop wouldn't detect my phone mounting the ISO. And it was a good excuse to get a new laptop with the opposite side of hardware.

>>59564667
He's right about the trackpad, why did Dell opt for fucking Synaptic instead of MS precision for such an expensive laptop is beyond me.

>>59565482
Are you retarded or do you live in a cave? The trackpad IS a precision trackpad.

>>59565566
Then Dell is even more retarded because there more premium laptop the 13 R3 is only Synaptic.

>>59564972

They could have moved the panel as close to the hinge as possible and had the webcam at the top. The actual footprint of the laptop would remain identical. But no, they went fully form over function just to make the top bezel look slim like the side ones.

The XPS 15 is such a dogshit laptop, I can't believe people pay over $1,000 for a heavily depreciating Windows machine alone.

>>59565865
>carrying about webcam placement
Shiggy

>muh depreciating value
guarantee no one is thinking about selling this shit later on. Only reason macbooks sell for so much afterwords is because people are sheep.

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>>59564730
this is the font on the new one

>>59565889

>Only reason macbooks sell for so much afterwords is because people are sheep.

Its because they're still useful by the time you want to sell it. What is this 'sheep' shit? Pretty funny to try that on /g/, the home of 'did I DO GOOD GUYS/GUISE SHOULD i BUY THIS?!'.

Out of a MacBook and a Windows machine which originally cost around the same 5 years ago, the MacBook smokes it in performance on shipped operating system and latest supported OS. The market isn't dumb, you're not smart.

>>59566360
>smokes it in performance
Confirmed for retard. PC laptop performance doesn't decrease anymore than macshit. Exactly the type of unsubstantiated claims that cause people to call macfags sheeple.

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>>59564667

>>59566393

>PC laptop performance doesn't decrease anymore than macshit.

Its not about 'decreasing' you fucking brainlet. Its the fact that any Mac operating system is always more optimized for its hardware than any Windows system, so it can handle future tasks better, always.

>>59566605
t. Mactoddler

http://mashable.com/2015/05/15/windows-10-new-macbook-performance/#6ujACiqkYsqR

>It's fast. It's smooth. It renders at 60FPS unless you have a lot going on. It's unequivocally better than performance on OS X, further leading me to believe that Apple really needs to overhaul how animations are done.

>>59566605
are you implying that OEM's don't optimize their drivers?

its not an old chinkpad

>>59566695

>a short article by some numale chink with the summary of 'it seems to run quick?!'
>it renders at 60FPS

'Renders' what at 60FPS, the cursor? You're quoting shit quality articles that make your argument look even dumber, and you're too stupid to fucking realize. Typical Winbabby. Back to your blind GPU shitfling you stupid fuck.

>>59566727

Yeah its all about dem Realtek drivers, they'll really make your machine fly when they're optimized. Not at all about the actual operating system. That doesn't need to be optimized, just as long as those webcam drivers are, its fine.

Do Winkiddies know how computers even work?

>>59566822
This isn't 2012 grandpa. Applel is on the decline.

>>59566822
are you implying microsoft doesn't optimize windows?

if the OS is optimized for the CPU, and the drivers are optimized for the rest of the hardware, how much more optimized can it get?

>>59566854

That isn't anywhere NEAR what macOS is like. MacOS is as granular as it gets. Apple make the whole package, they account for every fucking component on the motherboard. We're talking about laptops don't forget, where efficiency is paramount.

>>59567140
apple doesn't use magic, they use the same hardware as anyone else, put it in a fancy case and get to write their own drivers and that's basically it

>>59567162

>drivers
>drivers
>not the actual operating system of macOS, consisting of BSD, Cocoa, the Mach kernel and Darwin

Ok retard. So you don't know the difference between a fucking driver and an OS. Let me help you home, >>>/v/. Just click that red underlined link and you'll be right back where you belong!

>>59563862
MBP 15 blows XPS 15 out of water. Fact.

>>59567245
Is it opposite day?

>>59563862
>Find a flaw.
It isn't Macbook Pro 15 inche (2016).
>>59567245
Rekt.

>>59567430
Leave the poor fuck.

>>59567430
>>59567461
Money isn't the issue. Common sense however...

I own a 2013 model dell xps 15.

I want to kill myself, this thing blows ass.

>>59567201
you're pretty delusional macfag

>>59563862
NVIDIA

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is Dell a dad-core brand?

>shoddy machining tolerances
>shit software controlled audio
>coil whine
>expensive
I still like mine alot
Better than any other laptop I've had.

>buy xps 15 for $1300
>its fucking shit
>trackpad sucks
>wi-fi sucks dick and have to plug in ethernet
>sell it for $1000 to some faggot on craigslist and buy a macbook

meh

>>59567480
>Money isn't the issue.
I didn't say "poor" cause he's buying XPS, I said poor cause he got owned multiple times.

>>59563862
Not OLED

>>59567554

Excellent no-response! I sure am BTFO xD

>>59564372
>using webcam at all
It will be covered in tape anyway so who cares ?

>>59563862
>bad trackpad
>small arrowkeys
>glossy screen
I mean, why have a laptop you can't use on the go outside/a well lit windowed place?
>chin webcam
Just remove it if it can't be placed in a good spot.
>price
You can get Asus, same specced, matte screened, lightweight, aluminium, laptop with great arrowkeys, maxed out for less than the lowest cost XPS 15. (UX430 PURE-4)

Other than that, it's alright.

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find a flaw

>>59569383
Less appealing than a XPS.

>>59569383
i would have chosen this but there wasn't an option for a dedicated gpu

>>59563862
terrible keyboard with shit build quality
shit overall build quality
glossy screen
piece of crap touchpad
needs to be opened up to replace battery
maintenence expensive and more difficult than it needs to be
coil whining galore
crappy cooling
no ethernet
only 2x USB A

>>59569427
what is that even supposed to mean?

>>59569495
yeah that's a bit of a downer but after all the X1C is an Ultrabook that's made to be as thin and light as possible. Why not a T series then? They're better anyways.

>>59569383
Do the MacBook Pro's key glow?

>>59569712
Yes of course where do you think the chinks stole the idea from?

>>59569712
It has a backlit keyboard. But the keyboard itself is shit. It used to be OK until they introduced the Butterfly mechanism. Now it feels like you're typing on mouse buttons. It's hideous.

>>59563862
no fruity glow

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>>59569383
Nigger wtf is this? Is it really that bad? Damn they really hit rock bottom this year.

>>59564358
There's no such thing

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>costs $2,700 here
Any other alternatives? Display quality, battery life and price are the most important factors

WHEN WILL MODS FINALLY BAN THESE SHILLING THREADS?

I hate Dell for this kind of annoying marketing.
FUCK
YOU
DELL

FUCK
YOUR
SHITTY
LAPTOPS

>>59569726
Butterfly mechanism is rad, senpai. Also, the new MacBook Pro has upto 4x more key stability compared to the 2015 model. Quiet possibly the best keyboard in laptops right now.

>>59564228
laptops are pretty handy fucking dandy when you have a job and do a part time study 1h commute away from work though

beside it's just amazing being able to operate a computer as long as my body has at least one arm available for use

>>59563862
>>59563862
get ready to deal with dell tech support when the thing refuses to turn on within the first week; darn, the whole damn motherboard has to be replaced again. how about a nice trip to the post office to send it back to dell and wait patiently for them to return it. good thing i'm so patient. oh, the same thing happened again? i really love spending a lot of time and energy on this, instead of fun computer things

I have one. It's good on paper but it has QA issues. Still keeping it tho

>>59563862
Get Latitude 5520 instead, you get a 100$ discount for using GNU/loonix and it looks the same.

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>>59570091
*Precision 5520

>>59567594
yes

>>59563862
I was asked to setup a few of these laptops for the execs at my company.

The first problem is that Dells auto detect drive system is a piece of shit. If I run it on two Dell XPS laptops at the same time side by side they will find different drivers. This is sounds minor, but it was a nightmare to find the thunderbolt and video drivers. They weren't even available on the product page for the XPS at the time.

The second is the thunderbolt 3 port. On the surface this looks great, but tons of people have been having issues getting it to work properly especially with docking stations. In my experience whenever I'd plug a device in, it would just disconnect in 20 seconds. All drivers and windows up to date, just shitty hardware.

The third problem is that these keyboards fucking suck. They have one set of keys for all their models so if you get one with a large display, they keyboard is fucking tiny and awkward to use.

TLDR these machine aren't reliable for business and have a tone of weird issues when you try to setup several at the same time. I got my company to switch to the X1 Yoga. It's better in every way.

>>59563862
>Find a flaw.
you mom is still a slut

I'm an app/web developer and I spend a lot of time using Genymotion, upgrading from a Macbook, thinking about getting I was born a windows user and I don't want to spend 1.5k extra for the same hardware. Am I retarded?

The XPS 15 is only a premier laptop with Hackintosh

>>59565448
Nobody gives af anymore, take the L

>>59563862
>gimped Thunderbolt
>shitty Dell build quality.

>>59563862
All that bezel on the sides instead of adding a fucking number pad

What are alternatives for it? I do have the money but would like a better laptop than this, better build quality but same specs, battery life...

>>59571377
Nothing comes close to it in terms of aesthetic:performance ratio.

>>59571414
Okay, but can I get someone who's not a shill reply to me.

>>59571435
>implying

>>59571440
Okay, so what if I don't mind the aesthetic part but rather price:performance ratio?
What should I get then?

>>59571414
This desu. If only Lenovo finally started putting good GPUs in the T series, instead of the weak, old shit they've always been installing in them.

It can't be that difficult.

>>59571351
Laptops with numpads are cancer.

>>59563862
>paying real money for a Dell
wew

>>59564817
If it's gonna be covered in tape, why care?
But if you're a normie, yeh, the webcam placement is terrible.

>>59564818
>Ok 16:9
The fuck is wrong with that? Or is the laptop not 16:9?

>>59571640
For when you take the tape off to videochat.

>>59571651
He wasn't listing 16:9 as a con. It is one, but he was talking about why the bottom bezel is so fucking massive.

>>59571474
There's tons of gayming laptops out there anon

>>59571662
>why the bottom bezel is so fucking massive.
Oh! OK. But 16:9 ratio is awesome.
It's better than 4:3, and better than whatever the heck Apple's 16:10 ratio is.

>>59571681
Yes, but not with good battery life. What's the point if I can game on it, if it lasts only 2hours when I do programming.

>>59571691
As much as I hate Apple 16:10 is not one of the reasons I hate them.

>>59571691
It's complete ass compared to both 4:3 and 16:10.

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>>59571706
You did ask what's the best performance to price ratio ignoring aesthetics

>>59571730
How is battery life aesthetics?

>>59571776
How is battery life performance?

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>>59563862
It's not a new 15.4" MBP.

>>59564294
Poor little tradesman can't understand the use of technologies that don't appeal to his lifestyle. ;-]
Maybe try sticking to installing those HVAC units and letting the non brainlets handle the tech discussions?

>>59571780
What is battery life then?

>>59571952
What maintains the performance while not plugged into an outlet.

>>59572007
I feel like we've gotten off the subject.
What's a good laptop for the price of the xps 15, with similar specs, but it's not the xps 15?

>>59572133
A thin, light, relatively small form factor/footprint laptop with amazing screen, amazing touchpad (for a pc), decent dGPU given its size and quad core i5/i7 options. I really can't think of any tbqh. The razer blade has better specs outside of screen/weight/trackpad and muh gaymer aesthetic but it also costs a ton more. MacBooks are expensive af and you're gonna be paying $1000+ extra for an equivalent MBPr. Surface book same deal as MacBook. Lenovo is also expensive too. DESU you're stuck with gaming laptops. Gigabyte aero, msi stealth vr etc.

>>59569383

>Lenovo

Enjoy your Chinese malware

>>59564887
>The keyboard is OK
>
>The trackpad is the best of any in Windows
they keyboard is shit, and even thinkpads have the glass precision touchpads now

there's no reason to buy an XPS for anything other than a portable desktop

>>59569383
>find a flaw
activate windows nigger

>>59572266
Chinkpad trackpads don't compare to XPS. I agree with the kb though.

>there's no reason to buy an XPS for anything other than a portable desktop
Better screens, better form factor, better aesthetic. No Chinese malware

>>59572315
you don't understand

the 2017 thinkpads have the exact same trackpad as the XPS machines

>>59569745
my machine doesn't have any hardware defects. that's either a single fuck up or more likely just a weird artifact in the image
>>59569383
use 100% scaling you stupid motherfucker

>>59563908
fpbp

>>59572334
No they don't. Just because it's also a precision trackpad doesn't mean it's built the same.

>>59572206
What about the inspiron series? Worse battery life?

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>>59563862
its running windows

>>59572400
Yes, and considerably heavier/cumbersome. At least they're cheap tho :^)

>>59572442
I don't mind the weight.

>>59563862
16:9

>>59572474
>or battery life
Oh you don't? Then take a look at this beast

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MS7CMRX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_yUP1ybVF81GQM

>>59572596
No, the battery life is a priority.

>>59572656
Then I recommend the XPS :^)

>>59563862
>no 4k
>no oled

>>59572679
>no 4k
Are you dumb?

>>59572688
No you

>>59572670
Damn.
What's a good solution to the no ethernet port problem?

>>59572754
TB3/USB adapters aren't expensive, and they provide maximum throughput.

>inb4 muh dongles

>could've easily fittted a full keyboard on there
>the black bar at the bottom looks silly, they coul've gone with an entire corner to corner screen
>too expensive

>>59572793
Only real issue with the xps is the number of ports. Is there a usb c to hub adapter? Like usb c to ethernet, and couple more usb ports?

>>59572842
They couldn't fit a full keyboard without shrinking keys and moving the trackpad off center (ew)

Moving the screen lower would not only have made this laptop look really fucking weird, it would also have shrunken the chassis even more giving you less cooling, space for hardware, and a smaller trackpad.

Considering what these laptop is competing against (MacBook Pro, Razer Blade, X1 Carbone) relatively speaking it's pretty cheap.

>>59572845
You tell me.

https://www.monoprice.com/mobile/product/details/14503?gclid=CMeKiYqQ8tICFQiBswodWVYIEw

>>59572904
Thanks senpai. Should I get the xps then?

>>59572968
Idk dude get whatever the fuck you wanna get. I don't control you

>>59563862
You forgot to bring your adapter and will only be able to use it in a few hours.

>>59572991
>in a couple of hours
Do you mean for? If you do then you're greatly underestimating this machine's battery life.

>>59572982
Well, what do you suggest I get?

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>>59573133
Whatever makes you happy anon.

>>59563862
no ethernet

>>59563862
1) it's not a macbook air
2) it seems running windurr 10

>>59573301
Cry more.

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>>59564542
nice job shifting the goalposts, dipshit

>>59573301
So that's all bait? Meaning the xps has no flaw?

>>59573407
There is no point to this thread. Of course it has a flaw. Everything has a flaw. OP would be a literal retard to think otherwise. It's bait because all he wanted from you all were replies, and that's what you've given him.

A metric fuck ton for low energy no effort content.

>>59573424
And you gave him another reply dumbass.

>>59563862
>Find a flaw.

dell shills spamming it every day on /g/

No pointing stick

>>59569383
almost same size as the xps 15 but have a 14 inch display

almost same price as the xps 15 but don´t have dedicated gpu

>>59563862
It's not a T420.

>>59571850
D O N G L E S
O
N
G
L
E
S

>>59564155
Dell XPS laptops support external graphics cards.

>>59573301
Oh no actual worthwhile discussion

If you want to discuss radio tender geophysics then go ahead, there are anon who need to pick the correct laptop too

>>59573704
if you use a dock its nbd, senpai
and if you're hooking up ethernet/2+ usb devices you should be using a dock regardless

>>59571474
What performance is it you need?

Do you want Quadro or do you want something both CAD and gaming capable?

>>59572442
They have great battery life though

>>59575323
Do not.

So what are some better laptops in the same price range?

>>59563862
camera on the bottom bezel

>>59575441
15 7000 gaming edition does so