Why aren't you running the best Linux distribution?

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>>59559079
Because I'm running the best Linux distribution

>>59559079
The CD I ordered from OSdiscs hasn't arrived yet

>>59559079
I'm not a computer wizard so I'm using this eye-candy distro.

>>59559079
but I am using it

>>59559135
back in the day ubotu used to mail out free disks
>still have i386 & x86_64 ubuntu 7 install disks somewhere

because battery time is shit

>>59559079
Pasting from another thread
>Tbh fedora supported my GPU much better than any debian based distro. I'm using a 1366x768 TV as a monitor on my 2nd PC and it supports 1600x900 on windows and fedora gnome out of the box. Trying to add the resolution on any other distro shows errors on boot and I have to re apply the resolution.

>>59559079
There is no good linux distribution

>>59559372
is that a question? since it's obviously a kernel version thing.

>>59559079
I enjoy hitting the top left of my screen and seeing all my open windows.

Fedora for life

>>59559079
I do. I use Lubuntu. Super stable, and just works.

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>>59559117
>Arch has always been a simple distribution in terms of the developer perspective, not the user one.
>It has never been a minimalist distribution. Splitting packages is rare compared to other distributions, and dependencies aren't made optional whenever possible.
>It has also never been a distribution offering much user freedom / choice compared to Gentoo and even Debian.
>Arch is the *opposite* of a user-centric freedom.

https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html

>>59559530
simple for devs means simple for users now.
thank linus for that.

>>59559552
Yeah so much has change since 2015. Run along now arch toddler.

>>59559570
being the only one insulting doesn't help your case.

>>59559079
>Normal *nix User
Fedora, Debian, OpenBSD, FreeBSD
>*nix user with a niche need
Anything else
>OH GOD HOW DO I COMPUTER, I AM TOO STUPID TO KNOW HOW ANYTHING WORKS.
Ubuntu
>Novice Computer User
Mint
>Living Meme
Arch

>>59559552
>simple for devs means simple for users
lolwat, no it doesn't. Simple for devs means shit user experience. Proof: Arch.

The only reason kids use arch is because they think it increases their epeen. They're wrong obviously.

>>59559712
>OH GOD HOW DO I COMPUTER, I AM TOO STUPID TO KNOW HOW ANYTHING WORKS.
>Ubuntu
>Novice Computer User
>Mint

kek, he thinks ubuntu is easier than fedora/debian/memeBSD/mint

It's way past your bedtime lad.

>>59559715
It means they don't develop crazyass custom solutions like debian and ubuntu, which makes troubleshooting easy. you (and I hope other people so it's not just one dedicated shitposter in every thread) fell for a shitposting meme pretty hard.

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>>59559079
I'm using something slightly better, UbuntuGnome.

>>59559742
Mint and Ubuntu are easy, but Ubuntu's userbase rightfully gets shit on as they unironically tolerate the bullshit canonical pulls. That and the "MUH GAMES" crowd.

>>59559777
>they don't develop solutions

Agreed

>>59559079
I just use 16.04 LTS and jump every 2 years
discuss

>>59559834
because they don't have to, they make sure the packages don't conflict and thanks to linux software devs being not shit it just werks.

I'm using 16.04. It's pretty cool. I'm new to linux though and I'm not quite sure how to change some things. I think I want a new DE? I can't stand how there's a gray menu bar at the top of the desktop that doesn't hide and can't be removed. What do?

>>59559936
>sudo apt install xfce4
>log out
>check xfce session instead of unity
>log in
>???
>profit

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>>59559079

But I am running both of the best

>>59559978
Thanks anon.

>>59559079
I do have mint installed comrade

>>59559079
Because I use superior Windows 7. Now that Wikileaks revealed that every OS is a botnet there's no reason to use Linux anymore for your everyday life.

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>>59559808
[spoiler] Paper icon pack? [/spoiler]

>>59559808
Numix, yeah.

>>59560143

What job do you have that you need all of the jetbrains software? Or did you just pirate them for fun?

>>59559594
Being the only one with a point does

>>59560596
I'm a student so I get the licences for free yearly. IDEA and PyCharm are the community editions though.

>>59560676
I'll tell you when I see him then.

>>59560733
Are all arch toddlers too braindead to form comprehensible sentences?

>>59560766
are shitposters ever going to find new content?

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I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you are referring to the best Linux Distribution is actually bloat+botnet or bloatnet as I recently been calling it.
Please use your brain and install a sane distro like Void Linux or Alpine Linux.

>>59560772
>quoting an arch maintainer is shitposting
Just admit you use the Dunning-Kruger distro.

>>59560802
no, the insults and images are shitposting. the way to read the quote is debatable. pity that debate has been so one-sided this thread.

>>59560821
Maybe it wouldn't be one-sided if your argument wasn't "waaaa he called me a toddler"

>>59559455
How old is the Ubuntu kernel?

>>59559079
>implying this shit based on Debian is actually better than Debian

lmao

>>59560868
I love it when you start ignoring previous arguments, it lets me know that I'm winning.

>>59560870
pretty old. they freeze it when they release it, so 16.4 is probably from mid-'16.

>>59560892
16.04 literally means April 2016

>>59560883
I already addressed your argument from here
>>59559552 with >>59559570
You get btfo by the other guy too. Time to give up.

>>59560879
Enjoy choosing between old packages or untested packages.

>>59560084
By that reasoning shouldn't you be using Windows 10™?

>>59559117
>Because I'm running the best Linux distribution
this

>>59560906
the argument stopped here
>>59559865
the link to your post was a non-argument insult.

Ubuntu = Debian + Bloat and Amazon spyware

I don't understand the point, it's not like installing Debian [test] is like compiling Gentoo

>>59559472
you mean gnome shell for live.

But I already am running slackware.

>>59561001
TRIGGERED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXnfa0H30L4

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>>59560982
You were simply too wrong to even bother. But since you don't seem to think so tell me what has changed since 2015? What has Linus (The kernel maintainer) done to make everything "just werk".

Your other "argument" is wrong as well. Splitting packages doesn't cause conflicts. I have no idea why you would think so. It simply makes the maintainers job easier at the expensive of the users system. That's pretty much what arch is. Its why you only encounter things like https://www.archlinux.org/news/ca-certificates-utils-20170307-1-upgrade-requires-manual-intervention/ running it.

>>59561203
i am silly

>>59561203
Most signs I've seen point to the switch to not overwriting configs being the big thing. But whatever the reason is, since around 2015 it has not broken for anyone who wasn't actively trying to change deathly critical things without knowing what they were doing.

>>59559079
I do........Lubuntu is the best.

>>59561293
>since around 2015
I literally just linked a post from this month showing an upgrade breaking a package.

>>59561336
You misspelled Xubuntu

>>59561342
The troubleshooting for problems after setup amounts to just that, checking the news and following simple instructions. Far superior to failing outright with no recourse like has been known to happen to Ubuntu.

>>59559472
That's inherent to Gnome.

>>59561342
I should add, the problem you referenced, along with all others, is required to be fixed before any packages are changed. It's literally impossible to break it with that.

>>59559372
This is why we need Wayland.

>>59561365
No xfce is dogshit

>>59561432
Nope, simply doesn't happen in Ubuntu. Its the most deployed server and desktop distribution for a reason. Arch does not come close to it in terms of stability.

>>59561001
>Amazon spyware

wintoddler pls

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>>59561528
>implying lxde is not

>>59561535
Do I need to make a meme to make myself believed? It worked for you. Server and Desktop releases are very different. Ubuntu has a much worse history of bugs, like making outright bricks.

>>59560892
Ubuntu does update its kernel even in lts versions.

>>59561574
Yes that is what I am implying.

>>59561575
>Ubuntu has a history of making outright bricks

Examples?

>>59561575
Haha you're a complete joke. I've linked official news and quoted an arch maintainer. Meanwhile "Ubuntu is bad. Source: me". Enjoy your shitty distro along with its bloated packages.

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>>59561618
Well anon you see this guy on Ubuntu forums said an update broke his system. Good enough for you?

>>59561630
Says (You)...........pls

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>>59561646

>>59559079
because i'm running a superior desktop os: windows

>>59561618
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/1040557

>>59559864
do you ever run into problems near the end of the two year cycle of having old as fuck packages? staying on lts seems comfy

>>59561624
>>59561829

>>59559079
Currently running KDE Neon which is based on ubuntu LTS, is basically ubuntu + a repo that keeps updated kde software. The 16.04 is a pretty solid base.

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>>59559079
>2017
>Not using Pony OS. Kernels are magic

stay pleb /g/

>>59559353
even with TLP?

>>59561897
Go kys.

>>59561914
hdd spindown time doesn't effect how heavy the DE is.

>>59561624
but what am I saying I'll see you next thread

>>59561829
>But in any case, our best firmware people have already concluded there's nothing we can reasonably do here and the firmware just needs to get fixed.

In other words, samsung fucked up, any other examples?

Since I only use my computer for internet I just use tails

>>59561859
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Booting-Linux-using-UEFI-can-brick-Samsung-laptops-1793958.html
Not an Ubuntu bug. Try again.

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>>59561897

>>59561850
Not him, but you do run into problems. E.g. the currently shipped version of valgrind in Ubuntu 16.04 doesn't work on newer intel CPUs when using some specific random number generator from stl.

>>59561935
>there's nothing we can reasonably do here
>they blamed other people for a bug that only happened on Ubuntu
nah

>>59561956
Wrong
>>59561945

>>59561956
you have a hard time reading don't you?
>>59561945

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>>59560776

>>59561945
I just realized you've moved the goalposts across the field.
>Archlinux is shit!
>no
>Yes, here!
>that's not a problem, ubuntu has worse
>OK but that isn't a problem either! Archlinux is still shit!
Fuck off

Fedora 25 is pretty much the best put together distro I've ever seen.

also Wayland GNOME 3 is pretty sick, other than the problems with gjs and wayland gnome.

I wish those gnome faggots would fix it, I'm tired of segfaulting gnome-shell with javascript.

>>59561979
Hurts to be so wrong doesn't it?

>>59561829
This seems a lot like a bad UEFI implementation rather than a problem with ubuntu.

>>59561968

>>59562012
You tell me. we're pretty even here.

>>59561924
Didn't know that was the only feature ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Especially if you're a memepad user.

>>59562041
I'm not the guy you were arguing with. And no, you're not even at all.

>>59562060
Cool, not like it matters.
He switched from hating on arch to loving on ubuntu, and the last point on arch is still uncontested.

>>59561968
"as it appears to be caused by a kernel driver for Samsung laptops"
>kernel bug
>only happens in ubuntu
You're retarded.

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=157196

>>59561979
I moved the goalposts? Show me where. While you're at it go ahead and explain what has happened since 2015 here: >>59559570 or how splitting packages causes conflicts here: >>59559865.

>people unironically think one of the most lazy distros with possibly the worst package manager of all time is a good distro

fucking arch faggots; even gentoo is less autistic and shitty than your meme distro.

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>>59559079
Every year I make a week of checking if Linux is there, cause in like 2009 I used Mint for a year, and it was awesome then, but after a year I needed to get some real-life shit done, and had to go back to windows. Last year I've tried Fedora, Ubuntu Mate, Elementary, Mint, in all their respective new versions.

Of the bunch the best was Ubuntu Mate, cause the UX gave me the least cancer from all the linuxes. Didn't had to care 99% of the time "if this will destroy my build", didn't had to have a fucking sysops PHD to have a fucking working GPU. Basically my only complaint would be, that some tools I use for game development are on a fucking windows, thus I cannot use U-Mate for everything-and don't give me the bullshit it's all there, shit's not working YET.

>>59562090
No mate, you just got BTFO.

I am.

>>59562142
refer here
>>59560883

>>59562142
>>59562147
>>59562161
>>59562090
>>59562060
>>59562055
>>59562041
>>59562023
Shit kids, at your age I was smoking bitches and fucking cigars during fridays, go the fuck out and get some pussy

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>>59559808
love your icon pack combination with your wallpaper and the transparent bar man, but that terminator is so fucking ugly jesus crist.
love from another terminatorfag

>>59562104
>Show me where.
here, very clearly.
>>59561535

>or how splitting packages causes conflicts
not what I was saying, it was just a guess that the simplicity of their system leads to so few problems. I don't know exactly why it's changed, but overwhelming anecdotes of a lack of problems, as well as a lack of people asking for help with Arch would seem to be evidence enough.

>>59561528
HEY WATCH YOUR MOUTH

>>59562193
You're actually right... Fuck this stupid anime weeb asian image posting shit site. /G/NU/Linux bull shit.

FUCK ALL YALL NIGGAS IM OUT THIS BITCH, GOOD RIDDANCE.

>>59562275
see you tomorrow faggot

>>59559117
That's not Debian

>>59562224
>here, very clearly.
Are you kidding me? "Why is he making a stability argument in response to a post about stability????" Unbelievable.

>not what I was saying
Just admit you pulled it out of your ass and have no idea what you're talking about.

>overwhelming anecdotes of a lack of problems
lol.

>>59562260
He's just speaking the truth anon.

>>59562337
You can never convince someone that isn't looking to be convinced.
Who am I talking about, I wonder.

>>59562381
Irony at its finest

>>59559353
With tlp installed I'm getting the same battery life as Windows

I have 5yo notebook and I can not install anything newer than ubuntu 14.04.4 because no fglrx support due to newer X.org version.

Its obviously my fault because I should buy new notebook every 6 months.

lel

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>>59562381
this has got to be bait right?

>>59561528
>likes lxde
>says xfce, a close relative is shit

AHAHAHA

>>59562469
people like different things ?............

>>59562469
lxde has its good and bad things, xfce has its good and bad things, you guys are faggots because, you don't like either xfce or lxde, you use it and you think you are superior to another anon.

>>59562551
>he thinks these are serious arguments
you're new here, aren't you?

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rate me

>>59562621
does Steam work on 16.04?

>>59562632
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/?platform=linux
28% use 16.04 so it probably does

>>59562604
old enough, faggot

>>59562632
yep. I play l4d2 on ubuntu

>>59562632
Yes.

>>59562632
Works on mine. I did have to try and install it twice before getting it to work as it didn't launch the first time.

>>59562551
Wait, so I'm a faggot? kek

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But I am

>>59562876
Are you on Tumbleweed? Do you gayme on it? Why should I use it over ubuntu?

>>59559079
It doesn't respect my freedoms.

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>>59561034

>>59559079

Because CUDA/NVIDIA driver support is non-existent.

>>59559079
But I am running KDE Neon.

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>>59559079

I run an encrypted Void Linux installation with i3 on my Libreboot'd IBM X60.

I run Ubuntu with Unity on my desktop because I've at least somewhat ascended /g/ memes and actually like Unity. Plus I could not for the life of me get the Fedora 25 installation to boot.

Also it Just Werks, which is nice when I want to play VA-11 Hall-A and it actually works the first time, flawlessly, on Ubantoo.

>>59559117

arch is for edgy '1337' faggots

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>>59559079
cause poobuntu is not the best