/comfy computers inc/

Back when getting a computer was still a big deal...

I was waiting for him to get online and call everyone a cunt.

>>59558238
>muh performa!

The 6200s at school were shit, but the 6300 at home was pretty good.

>>59558238
one click button... the fuck

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Here's a comfy screensaver, OP.

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Comfiest computer.

>>59560655
Nice!

What is on the monitor? Is it a C64 demo?

>>59560727
Just a Drazlace picture I wired.

>>59558238
Not pictured : Trading porn on AOL with a 2400 baud modem, fucking with and breaking critical system files with Resedit, downloading games and changing the graphics and icons into dicks also with Resedit.

>>59560852
I used ResEdit to cheat in Lemmings. Can't get past a level? Just increase the number of Builders you can use.

>>59560655
I generally shit on 8-bits as underperforming toys but I still like my 128Ds, truly the pinnacle of an era.

If only there were good contemporary spinning rust options for them, though. I hate floppy disks.

>desktops that actually go on the desk top

I miss that.

Also passive cooling. Going from a totally silent Amiga 500 to a active cooled Win98 PC was such a shock.

>>59560987
CMD-HD. Will cost you ridiculous amounts of money, and not compatible with anything that has a custom loader. Same goes for IEC-HDD (which is DIY and relies on a no longer available CLPD)

Best bet for reliable storage is shell out for a Chameleon or 1541 Ultimate.

This BeOS demo is so comfy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsVydyC8ZGQ

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>>59561059
Oh yeah, I remember seeing those when I was first googling around for options. Also reminded me that I got a RAMlink in the lot, not sure how much use I could get out of it though.

I really wish I had the skill to modify something like a 1541-II and make it look like an official product similar to that DuoDisk-turned-ProFile mod that's been circulating around the net. Are there any IDE solutions that you could fuck with and use to mount an ATA/MFM disk inside? Looked like there was enough space, might be fun.

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>>59558238
Have a cup of coffee, sit and wait because its slower than shit.

Also, >quiet fucking L E L

This 90's technology nostalgia makes no sense to me. If we're going to wax nostalgic about any era think back to the early to mid 00's. Realistically we're currently in the best era of computing.

Pic related, my rig circa mid 1990's.

>>59561190
>Oh yeah, I remember seeing those when I was first googling around for options. Also reminded me that I got a RAMlink in the lot, not sure how much use I could get out of it though.
Shit, I'd love to have a RAMlink.

>Are there any IDE solutions that you could fuck with and use to mount an ATA/MFM disk inside?

Not really. Everything is SD based, and anything that actually fully emulates all the quirks of the diskdrive seems to plug into the cartridge port.

But if you're willing to sacrifice some compatibility, there's SD2IEC.

>>59561249

Slow as shit? The software was about 50x less bloated as the hyper-abstract memes we have now, I've got a Pentium 133 machine that handles word processing just as fast as a modern computer.

>>59561249
Are you from the carolina circle mall wiki?

>>59561301
While I absolutely agree software is super bloated now because developers no longer need to be concerned with limited memory and processing power; programs still were slower in my experience. Granted I didn't have top-tier gear, I used consumer grade stuff for the majority of the 1990's and 00's.

The real slowness I was referring to was the internet. Not only was it slow it was quirky as shit. Losing your internet connection because you received a phone call was stupid so we got a 2nd dedicated line. Even when we got our US Robotics 56k modem it was still sluggish, but not for the time unless you're comparing to the newly-released DSL.

>>59561311
No. The image isn't my actual photo but I had the same setup. It was a pretty common one in 1997.

>>59558238
>tfw computing pre-Internet was so comfy

>>59561383

The real bottleneck, as always was disk I/O.
I've got IDE SSD's in my old machines and they completely saturate the bus.

>>59561414
where are you getting PATA SSDs? The most common solution I see are PATA/CF adapters.

>>59561249
>>59558238
anyone know where to buy a beige oldschool case like this that'll work with a modern hardware? (atx btw)

>>59561435

Kingspec sell MLC IDE SSD's.
I've got faster CF cards in some of my old ThinkPads, and my Amiga.

>>59561447
Without Googling modern beige cases, try local thrift stores for actual old computers. Goodwill is a start but try St. Vincent or the Salvation Army.

>>59561471
Yeah, CF is what I use in my Amigas as well. I'm probably gonna stuff them in my old macs/PCs too.

>>59561249
>Have a cup of coffee, sit and wait because its slower than shit.
The Internet was slow but System 7.5 on Power Macs was damn decent even by today's standards.

These are the computers I remember because they felt very fast for software of the time:
* First G3 Mac.
* First WinXP PC with dual cores.
* C2D MacBook Pro with Snow Leopard.
* My current i7 MBP.

The PPC 601s didn't blow me away, but the 603e machine I owned was good, even though it doesn't quite make the above list.

>>59558238
90s Apple was garbage, until right at the turn of the century when they brought out OS X.

>>59561383
>programs still were slower in my experience

The difference is that when you have <100Mhz you can accept that it wont be blinding fast, but when you have something like 20-40 times that on two cores...Not so many excuses there.

>>59561249
>If we're going to wax nostalgic about any era think back to the early to mid 00's.
It is not nostalgic yet, but I really miss the 00-07 or so era sometimes. Maybe could even make it 00-10, or 02-09, heck, I'll just call it the 00s.

That is really the sweet spot I think. Social media still wasn't that huge, forums, chans and IRC were good, technology was very good and it was easy to acquire all kinds of things via the internet. Even smartphones existed and the expensive business models were very good to use.

It still wasn't expected to use your real name online, and no service was so big that everyone "had" to have an account there.

tl;dr I miss the 00s, fuck big-ass social media

>>59561555

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/23/cursor_devours_cpu_cycles_ms_code_editor/

I want off mr bones wild ride.

>>59561544
Not it wasn't. They had good machines, they just gave them a billion names to try and sell them through shit holes like Short Circuit City and LOLsears.

That and stupid fucking pointy haired managers blowing Copland by changing the specs on the engineers 3x a day.

>>59558238
>ochre
that's not ochre

>>59561579
>full fucking web stack to draw to the screen of a desktop app
>javascript for language
>put together by a company of pajeets
Are you surprised?

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>>59561544

Powermac 7600/200 with macos 8.1

was sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

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Creamed ya, Lisa.

>>59561701
Bought a 7600/132 recently, need to find a keyboard/mouse though. It would be nice to find a faster processor.

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>>59561301
>>59561249
>>59561492
I had a Performa 630CD

33mhz 68LC040 CPU, 8MB RAM, a 256MB IDE hard drive that was apparently considered a piece of shit compared to contemporary SCSI drives

I would hit that power button, hear "DOONG", see the smiley face and the extensions loading and then have a usable System 7.5.5 desktop within 8 seconds flat. It was incredible.

I spent years afterwards unable to comprehend why they couldn't make every computer do that.

>>59561301
Sad but true. WP hasn't changed much since the 1990s. Just added flash/bloat that 90% of the consumer market don't use/need in order to type a simple thing: a Letter/Resume/Term paper/or Report. Ex: MS works 4.5. Had database/spreadsheet/wp all in simple program that took up maybe 100-300mb of space. Even came with usable templates. Now office is shit, uses like 2GB and all templates are online based.

>>59562035
To continue; 90% of the tasks I do now I did the exact same back in the late 90s/early 00s. Still play a lot of the old games from that era. Only real difference is hardware/software support. Tasks that I do now, video and photo work, is only two that i didn't do then.

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>>59561544
Not really: I still have this baby at my parents house... still works like a charm, and the GUI is so fucking fast and comfy.

>>59561249
>This 90's technology nostalgia makes no sense to me.
A decent bit of diversity and new ideas in the industry like we had in the '80s while the nicer examples had a lot of the modern conveniences we'd come to expect in the '00s, particularly with networking. It's a great period for exotic but usable gear.

I don't really feel nostalgic about it though, I just like it, lots of cool, expensive engineering at a decent price point with decently professional design on top of it.

00s are still pretty nice too for similar reasons, but finding the good shit is annoying sometimes.

>>59561275
Damn, felt like a good autistic compromise if I could internally mount an old 40MB ATA drive in there or something, I've got a few spares.

I need to go find an AC adapter for the RAMlink, but the 128s themselves need some work done on them anyway. Another project to add to the list.

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>not my pic
But this was my dorm room computer for CS in 2001 at Purdue.
>inb4 someone shits on it for its PC class components
It was a great value for less than a grand. Especially when I already had an awesome Mag monitor already. It beat going to the Sun labs at 1 in the morning.

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>>59558238

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Max comfort.

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Why don't they make console/PC hybrids anymore?

>>59564825
to protect the environment

>>59564825
Neat!
On that note, isn't microsoft trying to kinda go this route. I heard some shit that they were going to be releasing everything on both platforms.

>>59564903
Yeah I suppose

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>>59560655

>>59564124
whoa that's some high-level comfiness!

>>59564825
I mean, nowadays any shit Korean TV/monitor supports multitudes of input sources while back then if you wanted a console and a PC at your desk you needed to buy a separate monitor and TV, there was some inherent utility in this idea that is lost to us now.

>>59558238

*twirl* *whiiiiiine* *clickity* *click* *click*

>comfy
>yeah i dont think so

I don't know, you guys. I really don't miss CRTs at all.

>>59566588
>not wanting your machines to act and sound like machines
>being this fucking beta that you crumple into a sniveling mess at the very idea of it in the age of inexpensive noise-isolating headphones

>>59566643
How do you play dark games?

>>59566905
LED screen

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>>59564825
>>59566548
It's so stupid and frivolous yet so beautiful

Also Sega has always had an odd relationship with the PC. You can get massive collections of 50+ Genesis games for Steam now for pennies per game, but even back when they were still in the console business they sold compilation CDs of Genesis games including a Windows emulator. I think everyone at Nintendo would literally commit seppeku before considering a business model like that

YALL BLINDED BY THE NOSTALGIA GLASSES

>>59567095
Everything now is mostly chintzy crap and looks like it. Its sad how cheaply made everything is now.

>>59567095
>not just seeing good shit for what it is in context

>this is 1995 and you'll only experience the good parts that I want you to remember

Proof is you will only see pictures of computers in this thread and nobody actually using them. Where's the how to guides, where's the software and OS recommendations? To use one would be to have to force you to actually re-experience how shit it was again, so it can only exist in gay little snippets like sales videos and pictures of the cases.


/vr/ has an entire psuedo community waiting for you but you won't fuck off there because then you can't pretend to be special and contrarian

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This

>>59561383
>While I absolutely agree software is super bloated now because developers no longer need to be concerned with limited memory and processing power;

Yes they do. Fuck all the pajeets and sanjays and enterprise java devs who create the bloat we have to deal with. A lot of late 90's software runs faster on period hardware than software we have today on modern hardware.

And web devs...holy fuck we need to start lynching web devs.

>>59568108
But they weren't shit. I've got a few old computers and with the exception of the bloated web, they run old software pretty damn well.

>>59560994
>desktops that actually go on the desk top

htpc cases essentially do this in the modern times.

>>59568357
I've never noticed a significant positive difference between old and new in this way, my new hardware is far more responsive and better at multitasking than even many of my multi-socket workstations that once carried five-figure price tags, and pretty much anything made in the last 10 or so years (Core 2 or better) is good to go with most modern titles unless you're a spoiled child who loses his shit over differences of milliseconds.

>>59561249
please don't use roadgeek's comfy packard bell's on /g/

>>59568530
Modern OSes on modern processors ARE better at multitasking, I'll give you that.

But comparing single programs? Older versions of Office run circles around the current version. A number of old IDEs make the current Visual Studio look like it's running on an 8-bit CPU.

There's still good, optimized software out there and naturally good software on a modern processor will spank good software on an old chip. But there's a lot of shit out there to and it's growing.

>>59568816
I pretty regularly work between Office 2016, 2000 and 97 and they're the same on average, 2016 generally feels a lot smoother, not to mention packed with features I actually like to use like usable conditional formatting.

Other than that, there are a few less than mainstream programs I use reasonably often that come to mind, like Mathematica for example, which is night and day going from old to new.

You and others who think this way are more right than I initially give you credit for, but honestly the lack of efficiency in newer software isn't that impacting, in general I find the experience just as nice or better.

>>59568897
It's not so much that modern software isn't responsive or even capable, it's that it's not as responsive or capable as it should be given the massive increase in resources available.

>>59568816
>tfw every modern program is just a web page that uses 40% of the CPU wrapped up in a 100+meg electron wrapper

>>59565414
why is there so much bifi under the table
who needs that many bifi

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Is pic related a comfy computer? I've been curious if it's worth grabbing one as of late. Apparently it can be slowed down to 386-ish speeds for DOS stuff if you disable the L2 cache in BIOS. No AGP slot tho...

>>59561249
That's not even your computer that's Billy Coore from the Carolina Circle Mall wiki's Packard Bell Legend 822CDT

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>>59571111
Because I love bifi, my kids also love bifi and we are living near the factory. There is an outlet store.

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>>59561249
they are quiet without the hdd. old ide hdds were very loud.

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>>59572806
>BiFi Currywurst
holy shit!

>>59571150
i used to have 10 of these 5 years ago. worked fine with winxp but dont know how they would work now.

>>59572806
>>59573212
I'm gonna get some when I have the chance.

>>59561925
Had a Performa 550, except that I was an idiot and threw every extension and control panel I could into it. Boot time wasn't so fast after that.

>>59560629
>static image
>screensaver

>>59564124
Oh now that's some comfort right there

>>59573212
>>59573254
They are great. It's my sons favorite. My daughter is a carazza girl.

>using Windows on a Pentium in 1995
>everything slower than DOS on my 386
>waiting for everything

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Woodgrain and beige is maximum comfy

>>59573396
>Not using GEOS
What wrong with you?

>Millenials talking how this or that was so-so and today is no-no
Who are you kidding?

>>59566643
You don't miss good motion quality (as opposed to your blurry sample and hold garbage) and good black levels?
Neither do I (because I still use my Eizo T960's).

When there is a OLED with a scanning picture mode and without input lag and such in a 17-24" size with a 4:3 or 8:5 aspect ratio, wake me up.

>>59560994
I have a dead Atari 65xe. A passive cooled mini itx board will fit perfectly. Biggest deal would be to get the keyboard running.

>>59573124
shit

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>>59558238
>10th birthday
>1993
>setup in my room after school as a surprise

Big upgrade from my Mac 512k

>>59571150
Pentium3 Maybe in the neighbourhood of 733MHz

>>59574272
What's the thing hanging on the front of the display?

>>59574704
It's the microphone.

>>59574272
What's it like to have parents that care?

>>59574777
Feels good.

>>59574272
>1993
>google webpage
>10
what the fuck is going on here

Is it still possible to get PC cases with that same nostalgic off white plastic?

>>59568816
>A number of old IDEs make the current Visual Studio look like it's running on an 8-bit CPU.
This is true. I remember Visual C++ 6: it was so fucking fast. I don't understand why Microsoft thinks users don't deserve zero-latency GUIs anymore.

>>59573441
Where the fuck is this and how do I live here forever

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>>59574880
Beige boxes died in 2002. Interestingly that was the same year when HP acquired Compaq/DEC.
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/18/technology/the-beige-box-fades-to-black.html

I personally think good beige plastic is the perfect balance between futuristic and comfiness. Maybe one day the industry will see that too.

>>59575057
Light beige that doesn't turn into piss stain yellow over time would be nice.

>>59574880
Just get a Fractal or whatever if you want a minimalist look. Don't be a dumbass hipster, nostalgic for shit you never experienced.

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I thought about getting an old IBM case (metal, not plastic) and modding it to house a watercooled SFF pc... but those in okay condition are way too expensive

>>59574880
>I express myself by buying shit :DDD

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>>59575082
Indeed. Although, Retr0Bright does a wonderful job bringing back the original light beige color without damaging the plastic.

>>59575086
I was born in 1988.

>>59575140
looks like someone dipped it in coffe.

>>59575086
>"Don't be a dumbass hipster"
>buy fractalshit

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>>59575023
>Where the fuck is this
my room
>and how do I live here forever
pay me rent :^)

>>59575089
That would be a nice project. How would you mod the back panel? CNC?

>>59575089
>>59575343
You'd probably be better off building a replica in CAD and sending it off to someone else to make, cause you'd have to do that shit anyway to fit anything in there if you want it not to look like a horrifying hack job. PS/2s are retarded to work on inside.

>>59574855
I took that pic back in 2008 when my dsl still came with backup dialup.

>>59561776
I AM THE SUPREME BEING

>>59575086
Lmao so butt hurt

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>>59574880
Most of the white/beige cases on places like newegg don't really have the right look to them (most of them were probably designed post-2000). I suggest doing a sleeper PC with a donor case from a parts machine. That's what I'm doing for my next build.

>>59568897
>I pretty regularly work between Office 2016, 2000 and 97 and they're the same on average, 2016 generally feels a lot smoother,

Office 2001 on a Power Mac G5 runs circles around the current Office on a core i7. Launches faster, more responsive, a fraction of the memory footprint, and quite frankly I don't find any of "muh latest features" to be that useful. The faster launch time is a real shock considering my G5 has a HDD and my MBP has a SSD.

And yes, I was curious so I didn't go with "muh feels" but actually pulled out a stopwatch. Modern Office got its ass kicked.

I understand others might find the latest features useful. But I bet a team of real software engineers could implement those features at a fraction of the cpu/memory cost.

>Other than that, there are a few less than mainstream programs I use reasonably often that come to mind, like Mathematica for example, which is night and day going from old to new.

But Mathematica isn't shit. The very nature of the program requires a team of real engineers.

A lot of Adobe stuff will be faster on straight number crunching (i.e. photo filters) but slower on more mundane stuff. As I pointed out, Visual Studio has become bloated shit, just like any of the meme "web on desktop" programs.

And the web itself...don't get me started on the web itself.

>You and others who think this way are more right than I initially give you credit for, but honestly the lack of efficiency in newer software isn't that impacting,

You have no clue how much faster modern hardware is. There is ZERO excuse for a smartphone getting warm from displaying a web page, or a blinking cursor taking 13% cpu, or waiting more than 1s for an app to launch and be ready to use.

Before stripping MS products from all my computers (fuck your spyware Poosoft) I had an Office update peg the CPU to 99%, fans at full speed, for 15m. 15m at billions of instructions per second to download, checksum, and decompress a god damn set of files.

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>>59574880
They are far and few between, but there are a few AESTHETIC cases you can get brand new.

>>59566998
Panzer Dragoon and Daytona USA were released on PC before the Saturn was obsolete.

>>59575086
Hate to break it to you but not everyone here is teens to early twenties underageb&.

>>59560629
Kek, I had it, best gorey shit every.

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>>59561925
>>59573260
I still have a Quadra 650

>>59573441
At least you cleaned the garbage off the ground.

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>>59576853
ayy wallpaper buddy

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>>59576925
Hello

What are the boards that you can see over the TV, three stacked in a L shape? >>59573441

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>>59576873
yep

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>>59576997
They're a couple of full-length ISA cards that are for collecting accelerometer data. I found them in this Pentium 1 tower I got out of ewaste at my uni.

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>>59577076
Neat

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>>59577121
thanks, here's a pic of the cards

also nice amiga (600 if I remember correctly?)

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>>59577213
Yup

Nice, two PCBs on top of eachother? Do they connect straight to accelerometer units?
Possibly useful for things like car crash testing, etc?

>>59577257
>Nice, two PCBs on top of eachother?
yeah each card has two PCBs that snap on so together the two cards take up 4 slots on the motherboard.

>Do they connect straight to accelerometer units?
They each have a what looks like serial ports, but I can't find much information on them

>Possibly useful for things like car crash testing, etc?
Maybe, but from what I gather this computer came from a civil engineering lab. I don't know what they would be doing with accelerometers tho. Bridge/dam material testing, perhaps?

>>59577544
>Bridge/dam material testing, perhaps?
Perhaps, did it have software on it too?

Always cool to find weird shit.

>>59568148
the leds look cool

>>59577614
>Green Is My Phosphor-monitor

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>>59577592
>Perhaps, did it have software on it too?
No, sadly the hard drive was pulled.

>Always cool to find weird shit.
Yeah I love finding oddware. Here's a pic of all the stuff I've got for free from my uni.

>>59558238

We used those in Elementary school in 1994 or so

>>59577769
we had PC

>>59577737
Nice!
What's that Sony? Entry level PVM?

Also, those Sun Sparc's with caddy CD drives and caddies! Real bi-uty!

>>59573441

holy crap comfy cave

>>59558238
I ran a lab with 60 of these back in college. Before everyone had a Mac it was only for engineering and media students.

>>59574272

Gorgeous set up my friend!

Is that a modem on top of the AppleCD drive?

Does it have any expansion for ethernet?

What version of netscape are you running?

Do you have CSS turned off?

Are you using the native browser agent or did you change it?

Google is displaying really well.

>>59577121
Very nice!!!

>>59577826
>What's that Sony? Entry level PVM?
It's a Sony SSM-121. When I first saw it, I was like "holy crap a PVM" and immediately put it in the back of my car, when I got it home I found out it's black and white. Text displays really sharp when hooked up to my Apple II tho.

>Also, those Sun Sparc's with caddy CD drives and caddies! Real bi-uty!
Thanks

>>59577943
>Google is displaying really well.
It's 2008, obviously it wasn't a bloated shit like now.

>>59577976
I thought it looked familiar!!

>>59577968
>Text displays really sharp when hooked up to my Apple II tho.
That's a great use for it then!

>>59578037
I got the idea after watching that 8-bit guy video about 80 column displays

>>59578079
Yeah, I saw it too! Just what I was thinking when reading your post.
I tried the 80 column mods on my C64 too, because I have a LCD hooked up to it with S-Video it didn't look even half as bad with colour.

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>>59577966
Thanks.

>>59578129
Cool, I didn't know a c64 could output s-video

>>59578142
How many fps?

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>>59577121
Pretty nice for an ECS machine.

>>59574272
My first computer was a Macintosh IIsi my mom bought off the school board when the lease was up in 1995. By the time it got to me it was already out of date and had been superseded by Power PC processors, but I never knew that. Just lived in blissful ignorance.

The fucking monitor is dying unfortunately, makes a horribly whining sound and smells odd. But dat Apple Extended Keyboard is still top dog.

>>59578221
>Cool, I didn't know a c64 could output s-video
It's straight from the motherboard.

>How many fps?
Twelve (12) usually thanks to Indivision ECS mode, else 7 with native ECS modes

>>59578222
Thanks maki

>>59578222
Is it a real 4000? Very cozy

>>59578290
>The fucking monitor is dying unfortunately, makes a horribly whining sound and smells odd.
Probably bad caps.

>>59578222
Ayy chief, those icons are killer. Do they come standard with the OS or what?

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>>59578322
Yeah. Don't have a good picture of it right now as it's half hiding behind a tape machine.

>>59578352
"NewIcons". not stock, but not difficult to obtain and set up. Needs at least a 16 colour WB to look good though.

>>59572806
>destroying your kids health by feeding them processed crap
parent of the year award

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>>59578425
That's a very nice machine anon, I know people who would kill for one

>>59578470
I honestly was about to kill for one, until one was offered up for trade against a few beers, about 2 years ago.

It was a stock 040 machine when I started, so I did sink a bit of money into it.

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>>59578425
>>59578470
Only AMIGA makes it possible!

>>59578531
Love the slow focus, great effect, such wow

>>59578530
I can see it has so much lovely stuff in it

>>59578425
>nail polish
do you wear stockings aslo?

>>59578599
Rarely. It's too cold for that shit.

>>59578222
>>59578425
Got any more Amigas?

>>59578430
Oh boy... My kids get perfectly balanced food. We are living country side, my parents are farmers, my sister works as Quality controler in the dairy industry, my uncle is a butcher and so on. Also i can tell you exactly what bifi contains and how it's produced. I can tell you, bifi is not the best, but by far not bad food. It's way better than chocolate, gummy bears or even fucking pizza.

>>59564825
>>59566998
Wait? You're saying they made consumer devices that were hybrids like this? I thought the only ones like that were the uber expensive developer units....

>>59578806
Even the c64 had a cartridge slot. Nothing special back in the days.

Have any of you played Elite 2 on your Amiga?

>>59578856
No, i played it on my ST. A nice game.

>>59571150
No. No matter what those are fast as blue blazes compared to a 386.

Even with the older version of this with an OEM PII 233, which I had:

Intel processors starting with the pentinum-pro support out of order execution and pipelining (but maybe some pipelining started with the pentium? It was a long time ago). Between both of those things, even if you disabled all the LII cache, and managed to rig both that and a 386 up at the same speeds (none of those things are possible btw), it would blaze past the 386.

To make matters worse for trying to go down to that performance, the PII and above only had chipsets for SDRAM, and the 386 only had DRAM (not even EDO!). It meant the CPU basically had to re-write the contents of the RAM every few clock cycles.

If you want something that gets down to those levels of performance, but that's somewhat newer/more likely to find parts for, get something in a socket 7. Those weren't as locked down as later CPUs, and you can usually set the bus speed and clock multiplier with jumpers.

>>59573124
>$12K to $40K

>>59577943
It is a modem my dad copped from work.
Yes, by that time I'd installed an Ethernet card in it.

>>59578290
It wasn't really outdated when I got my iMac in 1998 thanks to ram upgrades, granted it couldn't run os8, but it did everything I needed it too back then.

>>59558238

>mouse connects into keyboard
>powers on with a keyboard button

my whole life was a lie. I was a dumb win toddler in 1995

>>59580786
Don't feel bad anon, most people were.

>>59575901
>Launches faster
If you're running OS 9 there's a reason for that, either way that's not significant. It only happens once.
>more responsive
Doubt it, but then again pretty much anything after about 1990 is decent with Office and all feels pretty much the same. Newer office versions have effects added in which may create more of a slight delay, but it's less noticeable since something is actually happening.
>a fraction of the memory footprint
Not really a problem for typical home use anymore
>and quite frankly I don't find any of "muh latest features" to be that useful
That's fine, but there are those that do.
>The faster launch time is a real shock considering my G5 has a HDD and my MBP has a SSD.
I recall reading that it's one of the few upsides of the more "primitive" architecture of classic Mac OS, but I can't remember exactly why.
>But I bet a team of real software engineers could implement those features at a fraction of the cpu/memory cost.
Perhaps, but there's a question of how much work it would take, how maintainable it would be for developers in the future, and whether it's actually worth the effort.
>A lot of Adobe stuff will be faster on straight number crunching (i.e. photo filters) but slower on more mundane stuff.
I use a pretty loaded SGI Visual Workstation (dual 500 MHz Xeons, 512 MB of RAM, 15K Cheetah and a couple 7200RPM Atlas Vs for storage) with PS6 and Illustrator 8 now and again, I feel my cheapie 6-year-old Nehalem daily driver does a better job with newer CC versions.
>You have no clue how much faster modern hardware is.
I certainly do, or maybe I don't, because I'm running most of my modern workload which usually entails 20-30 tab browsing, Photoshop, chat clients, music players, small virtual machines, and all kinds of other shit concurrently on an old mid-range system I literally got for free. Outside of a few cases, I don't really think I could expect the same of even my aforementioned VW.

>>59563334
A E S T H E T I C

>>59580809
>waiting for a program to launch off a fucking ssd
>"but it only happens once"
And there's no excuse for it taking more than 1s.

>>more responsive
>Doubt it,
Doubt all you want. You're still wrong.

>>a fraction of the memory footprint
>Not really a problem for typical home use anymore
It also doesn't serve any fucking purpose. It's bloat that takes up space and contributes to memory bus traffic and cache thrashing, which is probably part of the speed issue.

>>The faster launch time is a real shock considering my G5 has a HDD and my MBP has a SSD.
>I recall reading that it's one of the few upsides of the more "primitive" architecture of classic Mac OS, but I can't remember exactly why.
No, you're wrong. It's faster on OS X as well. And there's no file I/O or app launch difference between classic and X that could overcome the bandwidth gains of a SSD.

BTW, I just had to launch Visual Studio to check something out and I had time to get a cup of coffee. Fuck bloat.

>>But I bet a team of real software engineers could implement those features at a fraction of the cpu/memory cost.
>Perhaps, but there's a question of how much work it would take, how maintainable it would be for developers in the future, and whether it's actually worth the effort.
Fewer man hours than the pajeets who wrote today's office. The code would probably be cleaner. And yes, it would be worth the effort.

>>You have no clue how much faster modern hardware is.
>I certainly do, or maybe I don't,
If you think there's any excuse for some of the slow software that exists today, you don't.

Stop defending sanjay's shit code.

>>59560516
way to out yourself as a Gen Z

>>59581425
>BTW, I just had to launch Visual Studio to check something out and I had time to get a cup of coffee
Meanwhile I'm still using MSVC++ 6 in VirtualBox.

>>59560655
awful

>>59580809
>>and quite frankly I don't find any of "muh latest features" to be that useful
>That's fine, but there are those that do.
I'm certified in MS Office 2010. I have that shit on my fockin resume. But there's nothing I can't do in Office 97 on my 486 thinkpad.

>>59581425
>And there's no excuse for it taking more than 1s.
There is if it's not worth giving a shit about.
>Doubt all you want. You're still wrong.
I use this shit all day long, old and new, across more platforms and systems than you've probably owned in your entire life. I used to see pretty much in line with this idea, then I faced reality and realized it was just some bullshit I cooked up to rationalize my hobbies that didn't need to be rationalized. Now I tire of listening to it, it's the same bitter soapboxing all day long by retards who've never written a significant piece of software in their life thinking they know all the answers, even though literally all you're doing is just screaming "PAJEET PAJEET PAJEET" like a memester in a /pol/ shitposting thread because you have nothing to back it up but strawmen and shitty anecdotes.
>It also doesn't serve any fucking purpose.
A lot of things don't, but people like them anyway. And if it doesn't cause a meaningful problem, that's okay.
>Fewer man hours than the pajeets who wrote today's office. The code would probably be cleaner. And yes, it would be worth the effort.
Please, you don't know shit about the codebase or what it's problems are and you know it. You can certainly allege that many of these more established commercial titles especially may suffer from poor optimization, but this is a reality even in free software as well with people from around the world, many of those like-minded towards you more than I, working tirelessly on it.
>If you think there's any excuse for some of the slow software that exists today, you don't.
You're just plugging your ears and screaming "you're wrong" at this point.
>Stop defending sanjay's shit code.
Stop regurgitating this annoying useless virtue signalling shit and go out and do something about it if you think you can, but I doubt it, because nobody would want whatever overly nostalgic trash you'd turn out just like they reject existing solutions in a similar vein.

>>59581568
That's fine, there's a lot of things I do with Office too that I can accomplish across all versions, but it doesn't mean that I don't employ some of the newer features available to me as I find a place for them, or want the ones I don't use gone entirely to shave off a meaningless few milliseconds here and there or faster loading times I could give a fuck about when I'm going to keep the application running all day anyway. I don't care to throw tantrums like an entitled, fragile child.

>>59583317
>There is if it's not worth giving a shit about.
>t. Lazy Pajeet

>>Doubt all you want. You're still wrong.
>I use this shit all day long,
Did you miss the part where I said that I fucking timed it? Office 2001 on G5 is faster than modern Office on a core i7. Which is inexcusable.

>Now I tire of listening to it, it's the same bitter soapboxing all day long by retards who've never written a significant piece of software in their life
>says the guy who has never written a significant piece of software in his life
Don't project. It's easy to detect.

>>It also doesn't serve any fucking purpose.
>A lot of things don't, but people like them anyway.
Are you seriously suggesting people like bloated RAM requirements, L2 cache thrashing, excessive bus traffic, and VM swapping???

>And if it doesn't cause a meaningful problem, that's okay.
BUT IT DOES. I ripped Office off my MBP...before becoming concerned over MS spying...after an Office update took forever with my cpu slammed to 95C and fans to max.

I'm sticking to old versions of Visual Studio because using the new ones is that damn painful.

And it's to the point where I will not browse certain sites while mobile in any browser, or with my phone, because of all their shit and the battery drain it causes.

>>Fewer man hours than the pajeets who wrote today's office. The code would probably be cleaner. And yes, it would be worth the effort.
>Please, you don't know shit about the codebase
I know it runs like shit.

>but this is a reality even in free software
That's kind of my bitch though, isn't it? It's like the bulk of programmers forgot how to program.

>>59583373
>I don't care to throw tantrums like an entitled, fragile child.
I'm calmer than you are.

I;m Thinking About Thos macs

>>59583630
>Did you miss the part where I said that I fucking timed it? Office 2001 on G5 is faster than modern Office on a core i7. Which is inexcusable.
Timed what? There are a lot of different aspects of that software you could time. When it comes to day-to-day use after the thing's loaded, I don't find Office 97, 98, 2000, 2001, StarOffice or anything else you could pick up any more usable than Office 2010, 2013, 2016 or the latest version of LO. In some cases the older software can even be worse, selecting fonts comes to mind, although like loading times it's ultimately trivial, so I never cared much for it.
>Don't project. It's easy to detect.
Never said I did, you don't have to to recognize another person who hasn't either.
>Are you seriously suggesting people like bloated RAM requirements, L2 cache thrashing, excessive bus traffic, and VM swapping???
I'm suggesting they don't care because it's ultimately meaningless unless you can't even get off your ass and buy a cheap Core 2 system from your local thrift store.
>BUT IT DOES. I ripped Office off my MBP...before becoming concerned over MS spying...after an Office update took forever with my cpu slammed to 95C and fans to max.
Wow, an MBP is throttling and overheating... I've never heard that one before, must be that damned Pajeet's fault.
>I'm sticking to old versions of Visual Studio because using the new ones is that damn painful.
If it works well for you, that's cool.
>And it's to the point where I will not browse certain sites while mobile in any browser, or with my phone, because of all their shit and the battery drain it causes.
I've never encountered it to that kind of level, though many mobile sites are garbage in other ways.
>I know it runs like shit.
I'll raise you my own anecdote: runs absolutely fine for me.
>That's kind of my bitch though, isn't it? It's like the bulk of programmers forgot how to program.
You technically aren't wrong, there are a lot more novices pushing things out nowadays.

>>59578682
Sorry, went to bed and just woke up again.

I have an A500, 4 A600s, and an A1200. They don't get much use at the moment.

>>59583766
>Timed what?
A number of the commands.

>Never said I did, you don't have to to recognize another person who hasn't either.
Apparently you do because I have written significant software. No, not Carmack or Linus significant. But there are companies that run completely off code I've written.

>>Are you seriously suggesting people like bloated RAM requirements, L2 cache thrashing, excessive bus traffic, and VM swapping???
>I'm suggesting they don't care because it's ultimately meaningless unless you can't even get off your ass and buy a cheap Core 2 system from your local thrift store.
LOL the latest office is sluggish on an i7 with 16gb and an SSD. And Visual Studio has become damn near unusable on the same. Pathetic.

>Wow, an MBP is throttling and overheating...
Oh fuck off. The same MBP doesn't seem to have a problem with photo or video editing while playing background music, nor running software in OS X and a Windows or Linux VM simultaneously. Other IDEs and compilers and office suites seem fine.

In fact, now that I think about it, it's really only Microsoft shit that pegs the cpu. I can think of other examples of sluggish modern software, but nothing that just makes you want to shoot a developer like Microshit can.

>>That's kind of my bitch though, isn't it? It's like the bulk of programmers forgot how to program.
>You technically aren't wrong, there are a lot more novices pushing things out nowadays.
Apparently they're working for Microsoft.

>>59584269
>A number of the commands.
Like...? I run a lot of PPC systems with OS 8/9 and X both, I've never really found myself wowed by application performance. Same goes for NT/2K.
>Apparently you do because I have written significant software. No, not Carmack or Linus significant. But there are companies that run completely off code I've written.
It's pretty rare to see anyone on /g/ who's done anything worth a shit other than office drone work for an employer, what kind of projects have you done, anything user-facing or mostly back-end?
>LOL the latest office is sluggish on an i7 with 16gb and an SSD. And Visual Studio has become damn near unusable on the same. Pathetic.
You're just pulling anecdotes out of your ass, nigger. I run 2016 all the fucking time on a shitbinned 2.2 GHz Nehalem Xeon and spinning rust.
>In fact, now that I think about it, it's really only Microsoft shit that pegs the cpu.
I'd be amazed if they even gave a shit about their Mac OS ports anymore.
Experiences vary from person to person and system to system, there's shit I can daily drive without bitching that others seemingly can't even get to run a fucking text editor. I'll never get it.

>>59565414

man, that could easily be me. I had that exact experience, hercules monitor, weird IBM thing, bubble bobble on the first level with water.

Now I'm a c# meme lord trying to get EF working with a shitty DB I'm working on.

>>59584450
>>A number of the commands.
>Like...?
If the thread is still up tomorrow I'll find my notes and post commands/times. (Not at home.)

>I run a lot of PPC systems with OS 8/9 and X both, I've never really found myself wowed by application performance.
The G5s were fast at the time. Hot and loud but fast. Never thought much about them after the Intel move until picking up an old one at a thrift shop. Loaded Office 2001 and immediately felt the difference versus Office on my MBP.

To be clear: I'm bitching about slow/bloated apps and their increasing prevalence. Well written apps naturally run faster on modern hardware, as it should be. Likewise the OS itself is faster on modern hardware.

>It's pretty rare to see anyone on /g/ who's done anything worth a shit other than office drone work for an employer, what kind of projects have you done, anything user-facing or mostly back-end?
Both. One small business and one medium sized (multiple office) business run on software chains I created myself: database design, a few custom server apps, employee desktop apps, and a couple customer facing web apps.

>>LOL the latest office is sluggish on an i7 with 16gb and an SSD. And Visual Studio has become damn near unusable on the same. Pathetic.
>You're just pulling anecdotes out of your ass, nigger. I run 2016 all the fucking time on a shitbinned 2.2 GHz Nehalem Xeon and spinning rust.
Do you run anything else? Because Xcode slaps the shit out of VS2016. I have VMs with VS2008 and VS2010 and while they're not speed demons, they're not slugs either. 2015 or higher takes forever to launch, then just drags. I've seen this on real hardware and on VMs. What does it want? Overclocked nitrogen cooled Ryzen with 128gb of RAM?

>>In fact, now that I think about it, it's really only Microsoft shit that pegs the cpu.
>I'd be amazed if they even gave a shit about their Mac OS ports anymore.
I've never touched VS for Mac. All my comments are about the Windows version.

>>59584450
>>59584960
I have a feeling that you 2 argue about this regularly.

>>59584960
Jesus fuck I can't read anymore, for some reason I thought you were talking about Office and not VS. My limited experience with modern VS isn't that great, I know people who love it but I could care less for it, it felt overly bloated as you described.

Maybe next time I have one of my G5s running I'll fuck with 2k1 on it, I typically stick to OS X software on those systems since it's more fitting for them, though I'd imagine their performance would be pretty good on classic software that's made with older 603/604-class hardware in mind especially.

>>59584981
I'm just bored as shit, and now I'm going to bed.

>>59584806
>weird IBM thing
It's a Commodore 128, you pleb

>>59584179
Glorious

>>59581425
>Daily reminder that Visual Studio Code uses 30% of the CPU even when idle to animate the flashing text cursor
Modern developers are like a bad joke.

>>59585565
I find it pretty humorous

>>59585565
Literally uses less than 1% of my cpu on my Mac Pro 3,1 running El Cap