>he uses non-free software

>>59546663
I wouldn't if any of the FSF-approved distros were even close to being usable on a day to day basis for anyone who doesn't have severe autism. I just use Debian, which is free software, but because it stores nonfree software on the same server this retarded toejam-eating freak declared a war against it.

>>59546663
>>he uses non-free software
He does? I knew I couldn't trust that fat fuck.

>>59546783
>having to explain a meme to a fucktard anon

hes a cute girl. but she doesnt like you because you use non free software. she uses fsf approved software only.

>>59546760
i agree. their rules are unrealistically strict in order to consider a OS free software. they dont consider alot of distros free software merely because they give an option to install non free binaries.

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>>59546663
>he uses his early involvement in Linux to fleece retards for donations.

>>59546760
debian also recommends to install said software everywhere on their website and wiki

>>59546826
>i agree. their rules are unrealistically strict in order to consider a OS free software
free software is free software, is it really that difficult to understand?

>>59546826
no fsf endorsed distro forbids or makes it impossible to install nonfree software

>>59546947
Show me.

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>>59546898

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>>59546977
theres a difference between their very strict idea of a free OS and a gratis OS

>>59546663
what are theses wires attached to the laptop?

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>>59546663

That thinkpad has serious cable management problems. you can choke ppl with that thing

>>59547009
https://wiki.debian.org/skype

>>59547064
>recommends to install said software everywhere on their website and wiki
>Skype is non-free, proprietary, closed source software, owned by a corporation and not supported by Debian.
So did you just ignore that the first thing they said was that it's shit and you should use one of the conveniently linked FOSS programs instead?

>>59547091
>mudering people is bad, anyway that said, here are the best ways to do it: [...]

>>59546663
>I've never installed Ganoo/Linox.

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>>59547036
my first guess is a kenginsgton lock. i dont know why the fuck he would have one. guess hes afraid of his libre laptop to get stolen by non-free tribes

>>59546663
Why are there so many wires running from his laptop

>>59547091
teaching kids how to use nonfree software is like teaching kids how to smoke tabacco

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>she volunteers to teach the local tribe of pajeets how to invade freedom restricting tech companies in order to seize the means of production.

>>59547036
I think its a ghetto strap so he can carry it over his shoulder.

>>59547056
That's not a thinkpad imo

>>59547132
Go eat some toecheese, faggot. Equating using Skype to murder? Grow up. They specifically promoted against it, but because it's a FREE OS they'll allow you to do it anyway. Isn't that what freedom is all about? Being allowed to make bad decisions?
>>59547202
Fuck off autismo. This is such a pathetic autistic argument I wish you could be sent to a labor camp for making it. Schools teach kids how to use Windows and nonfree software, is that like teaching them how to smoke crack? Futhermore if installing Skype on Debian was truly equivalent to smoking, no one would need a fucking page of instructions to do it, because it would be self-explanatory.

Had problems with using Trisquel because my wifi needs a nonfree driver, so I'm using Debian. That said, I'd rather use a completly free distro, if free drivers would be available. I guess the problem is that too many people accept nonfree drivers, which again pushes producing nonfree drivers. It just needs more people who say "No" like in the 90s and the driver problem would be solved.

>>59546760
>I wouldn't if any of the FSF-approved distros were even close to being usable on a day to day basis for anyone who doesn't have severe autism.
Uh, if you can use Debian, you can probably use Trisquel as well. Heck, I've had wi-fi cards that required a little setting up on Debian but none on Trisquel. gNewSense might work too, I haven't touched it in years.

>the FSF-approved distros
Their endorsement ust means that they can recommend these distros to anyone. No FSF person would tell you you're doing something wrong by using Debian, as long as you really don't touch the non-free parts.

>>59547247
9gag pls go

>>59547262
Yeah, personally I deal with the problem by using USB wi-fi cards and not buying laptops new (no support goes to the people putting the non-free wi-fi part in). But I guess I can understand people not wanting to use dongles.

>>59547267
non free drivers are stripped from trisquel.
but true, if its truly free you should be able to just fetch the kernel module from somewhere and load it.

>>59547310
Where to get such a USB wifi card?

>>59546663
>want to use free firmware
>wont even boot into the OS
wtf

>>59547262
>It just needs more people who say "No" like in the 90s and the driver problem would be solved.
this

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>>59547321
I have bought three TL-WN722N. They have had an Atheros chip which is supported by ath9k.

>>59547321
check minifree

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>>59546760
Nobody gives a fuck about this gay jewish retard. He was never that important to begin with, just jew hype and nepotism is all. He needs to get out of his moms basement and take a bath.

Does Stallman use Hurd?

>>59547383
Sorry but I can't take ">le jew" comments serious.

>>59547394
He uses GNU Linux-libre, a fork of Linux.

>>59547394
he uses FreeBSD

You're all very retarded. Why is it so hsrd to understand that he is probably the only person living by all of the strict rules of FSF and that he invented the doctrine, believes in it 100%? He's there to educate you, and even he realizes that FOSS is sometimes not practical. You're doing less harm to yourself by using ubuntu over windows, then using debian over ubuntu, and lastly using gnewsense over debian. He does not fucking compromise on the website by saying that however, because it's activism. Hurr durr this is free software but use ubuntu because some of it is free, not these ones we endorse because they're examples of absolutely free software. You're all dumb.

>>59547383
Shitty bait fampai

>>59547449
nice try to justify yourself for using ubuntu

>>59547467
he was doing the opposite you fuck

>>59547467
I'm actually using Windows 7 only. Before I bought a new HDD I was dual booting OpenSUSE, because I literally NEED Windows for uni. I am FOSS aware though, which is the fucking point. I use Libre Office because I don't need the MS one, I use VLC over proprietery alternatives etc. But I am AWARE why FSF doesn't endorse "usable" software. They have a definition of "free" and they don't compromise it by endorsing non-free software on their website, why would they? If anything, it would be confusing and dumb.

Also, they fucking explain why they don't endorse all of the popular distros, obviously so you can decide for yourself, it's not like they don't mention Debian etc.

>>59546663
>he's an e-nazi

>hurr kill all proprietary things
I like freedom of choice.
>durry, you chose to be a slave
Because i don't want to be robbed of MY choicemaking, not following FSF's recommendations?

How does it feel to endorse naziism, freetards?

>>59547036
Free as in freedom GND

>>59547611
>because I literally NEED Windows for uni.
Literally why?

>>59547633
If you like freedom of choice, you shouldn't use software that restricts your freedom to choose (or even know) what it does.

>>59547633
>tfw retarded millennials have no idea what nazi means

>>59547633
The FSF doesn't force anybody to use or not use anything. They recommend to use things which are completly free.

>>59547633
I'm, in fact, a member of both the FSF (well, an associate member) and the local communist party. Not a nazi.

>>59547671
see
>>59547652

It's a fitting analogy.

>>59547679
I'm a communist too.

>>59547672
tbqh, the FSF is fine, in terms of philosophy.
Apart from the thing with the name of Linux.

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Just wait until Guix is ready so you can deploy a pure GNU system

>>59547651
Because I need matlab and gnu octave did not cut it when I tried switching.

>>59547757
Whats wrong with the name? It's the kernel made by Linus. The FSF didn't say otherwise.

>>59547813
If i refer to Linux i mean the OS, which contains GNU stuff besides other project's parts.
And not only GNU and Linux.

If i say the Linux kernel i refer to Linux, as the kernel.

Deal with it.

>>59547841
Linus didn't write a complete operating system. He just wrote a kernel. Deal with it.

>>59547849
I didn't imply that, did i?

>>59547841
The GNU operating system is the pricipial framework in which those projects were added, senpai.

>>59547875
Linux is a cuckfaggot name.

>>59547884
So is Xorg. Do they demand a prefix now?

>>59547875
>If i refer to Linux i mean the OS

also it's not only about the name, when you call it linux, you're playing for the linus team, which is full of proprietary software advocating faggots

>>59547894
GNU is a cuckfaggot name.

FTFY

>>59547925
I even use proprietary GPU drivers *gasp*

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>>59547905
>>59547841
What we say is that you ought to give the system's principal developer a share of the credit. The principal developer is the GNU Project, and the system is basically GNU.

If you feel even more strongly about giving credit where it is due, you might feel that some secondary contributors also deserve credit in the system's name. If so, far be it from us to argue against it. If you feel that X11 deserves credit in the system's name, and you want to call the system GNU/X11/Linux, please do. If you feel that Perl simply cries out for mention, and you want to write GNU/Linux/Perl, go ahead.

Since a long name such as GNU/X11/Apache/Linux/TeX/Perl/Python/FreeCiv becomes absurd, at some point you will have to set a threshold and omit the names of the many other secondary contributions. There is no one obvious right place to set the threshold, so wherever you set it, we won't argue against it.

Different threshold levels would lead to different choices of name for the system. But one name that cannot result from concerns of fairness and giving credit, not for any possible threshold level, is “Linux”. It can't be fair to give all the credit to one secondary contribution (Linux) while omitting the principal contribution (GNU).

>>59547929
GNU is bad but not as bad as Linux.
Are you saying Linux is a good name?

im a photographer and GIMP is shit for photo editing.

>>59547952
GIMP is shit
>ftfy

>>59547952
it's shit because you aren't familiar with it and too lazy to learn it
>ftfy

>>59547947
>If you feel that X11 deserves credit in the system's name, and you want to call the system GNU/X11/Linux, please do.
I feel like calling it Linux, despite i acknowledge GNU for their contributions, how's that?

I'm a photographer and GIMP is great for photo editing.

>>59547951
Yes.

>>59548009
Nice

>>59547947
I feel like calling it Bonzy Buddy, despite i acknowledge Microsoft for their contributions, how's that?

>>59547994
No one really cares about your "acknowledgement" unless you let it show.

Anyway, my input: I agree with the FSF stance of insisting on GNU/Linux, but I do recognize that it is such a clumsy name to use in a casual discussion. There should be 0 controversy if it was easy to say, but gahnoo slash linux really isn't - so the desire to just say Linux is understandable.

Most of the time I nonetheless call it GNU/Linux, esp since I use distros which call themselves GNU/Linux rather than "Linux".

>>59547982
no, its shit because its interface is garbage and functionally has nothing equivalent ACR.

>>59547036
So he can use his Thinkpad while standing innawoods

>>59548071
I don't care if nobody cares about my acknowledgement either.
I just told you i do, despite not wanting a retarded naming scheme based on egoism.

So i won't let Hit/er dictate me how to name the stuff i use, which already has a name given and is established in society.

Gnu is a disgusting and dumb animal.

>>59548190
>not wanting a retarded naming scheme based on egoism
good reason for not calling it linux

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>>59548190
Just consider: the GNU Project starts developing an operating system, and years later Linus Torvalds adds one important piece. The GNU Project says, “Please give our project equal mention,” but Linus says, “Don't give them a share of the credit; call the whole thing after my name alone!” Now envision the mindset of a person who can look at these events and accuse the GNU Project of egotism.

>>59548273
Linux is the core of the System, so it's a "Linux OS". (With thousands of contributors NOT having a probem with calling it either that way for an umbrella term, or by it's distro's name)
They are credited in man pages and/or code/repo whatever. Exactly like GNU devs.
Yet they simply aren't so shameless to demand a prefix.

>>59548318
GNU is free™ to use HURD.

>>59548318
RMS was to friendly. The whole problem wouldn't happen if he would stick to "just" GNU instead of GNU/Linux.

>>59547025
>>59546663
What does he even do on that laptop all day. i can't imagine that old piece of shit having wifi

>>59548318
Naming is part of muh freedom.

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>>59548389
It would not be false to the facts, but it is not the best thing to do. Here are the reasons we call that system version “GNU/Linux” rather than just “GNU”:

It's not exactly GNU—it has a different kernel (that is, Linux). Distinguishing GNU/Linux from GNU is useful.
It would be ungentlemanly to ask people to stop giving any credit to Linus Torvalds. He did write an important component of the system. We want to get credit for launching and sustaining the system's development, but this doesn't mean we should treat Linus the same way those who call the system “Linux” treat us. We strongly disagree with his political views, but we deal with that disagreement honorably and openly, rather than by trying to cut him out of the credit for his contribution to the system.
Since many people know of the system as “Linux”, if we say “GNU” they may simply not recognize we're talking about the same system. If we say “GNU/Linux”, they can make a connection to what they have heard about.

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>>59548401
he doesn't.
the electrosignals would kill him.

>>59548401
"""answer""" questions on mail.

>>59548401
Reads and writes mail. Probably reads some news, he does seem to follow them all the time. Writes articles and whatnot for his website (and others).

He connects to the internet occasionally to send/receive mail and download websites to read with emacs.

>>59548415
how about Linux/GNU? :^)

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>>59546663
>>he uses non-free software
he's also an autistic faggot with bad hygiene habits.

Reminder to all you /g/tards that Stallman is a feminist.

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>>59548496
It is right and proper to mention the principal contribution first. The GNU contribution to the system is not only bigger than Linux and prior to Linux, we actually started the whole activity.

However, if you prefer to call the system “Linux/GNU”, that is a lot better than what people usually do, which is to omit GNU entirely and make it seem that the whole system is Linux.

>>59548511
i don't think so, senpai
http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Richard_Stallman

>>59548520
>However, if you prefer to call the system “Linux/GNU”, that is a lot better than what people usually do, which is to omit GNU entirely and make it seem that the whole system is Linux.

give it a few more years and there will be no more GNU in Linux and GNU will die.

>>59548520
"Linux" tough is still a reference to the whole OS.
The whole OS does involve GNU parts too.
BTFO

>>59546663
>i have a real job

linuxcucks btfo

>>59548571
Linux is the kernel which was developed by Linus Torvalds, nothing more, nothing less.

>>59548575
Linus is by definition a kernel, by reference an OS involving the kernel.

>>59548591
Linux*
my bad

>>59547056
Which is exactly what he does with it.

How else can he get a weapon past Communist Customs agents?!

>>59548536
He is a meme /g/ deserve

>>59548591
The OS involving the kernel is GNU.

>>59548609
The most succesfull meme on /g/ even.

>>59548614
not by reference.

GNU refers to an OS involving HURD.
We know how that ended.

>>59548635
GNU can be combined with many different kernels. The most popular combination is GNU/Linux.

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>>59548635
>GNU HURD

>>59548670
It's still Linux that drives the GNU parts.

i'm wondering, why do pro-it's-just-linux people call Android "Android" instead of just linux?

>>59548675
oh, we don't need slashes here? ;^)

>>59548693
Why do people call Ubuntu just Ubuntu?

>>59548572
Tfw getting called a lincuck while im posting from FreeBSD

>>59548685
it's still grub that drives linux

>>59548713
>what's Syslinux

>>59548707
>Why do people call Ubuntu just Ubuntu?
are you stupid

>>59546760
Parabola has been good to me, but it's based on Arch. :^)

>>59548725
No, are you?

>>59548536
He is a feminist, but he is capable of doing stuff that other feminists don't like. Just read all the stuff there; many are old jokes or really silly things, he isn't being anti-feminist there, he is merely making mistakes like everyone does. The pedophile stuff is a bit odd tho.

https://www.libreplanet.org/2016/safe-space-policy/
Nowadays FSF events have a safe space policy, for example. His emacs virgins -joke might not actually be compatible with the policy.

I can't be arsed to search for a link but Stallman has supported feminist movements on his political notes (on his website).

>>59547787
how long ago did you try? What features were not up to snuff?

>>59548536
>In 1993, he asked for birth announcements to be banned from emacs mailing list, unless they are announcements for seahorses, because then it would be the male that gives birth and therefore interesting.
I though it was a funny joke, I think it was interpreted wrong.

>He uses Apple products