/pcbg/ - PC Building General - Stay with the stock cooler for

anyone got intel IPC progression chart or figures from like the past 5 years?

What is the air cooler with highest tdp capacity, and how much tdp can it dissipate?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2gyJGf

Please replace the Kabylake and Z270 board with the equivalent in the next gen of Intel also I will be buying a 1080Ti (Non FE) just there any aftermarket ones listed yet

Mechanical Keyboard with custom keycaps 156 usd
LED Strips 24usd
Custom Mousepad 25usd
Microboard-M340CLZ-34 700usd
Samsung 1Tb SSD 325usd
Philips SHP9500 70usd
V-MODA BoomPro 30usd
Buffalo LinkStation 220 NAS(Gonna be used with the 4Tb´s HDD´s) 95usd
VideoSecu ML531BE 25usd

Gaymen at 3440*1440p

Any news on the R3? Will four more threads on the R5 be worth the extra $50?

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>>59530798
>>59531685

Here's what I picked! I did some research on the parts, but most of all I just went along with the reviews and prices haha


The total of this is £490, so I have around 200 pounds left over

If anyone has any ideas on how I can improve this, please share them with me

Will be starting a new military-themed build soon and need some reccomendations for parts to use. Will already be using the AsRock Z270 SuperCarrier mobo, the Corsair C70 Military Green case, and the Deepcool Captain 240EX White liquid cooler.

Anything that fits this theme?

oh it's another everyone asks retarded pcmr questions about what color their leds should be but no one answers anything

>>59546398
West to Sandy 20%
Sandy to Ivy 5%
Ivy to Has 8%
Has to Broad 2%
Broad to Sky 2%
Sky to Kaby 0%

>>59547001
You're retarded

>>59546984
470, ssd, z series board so you can up the CPU later

>>59547336
Thanks

>>59547318
Okay neat I can just OC my 4690k then and have decent single thread performance

Does 2400MHz dual channel make a diiference in gaming compared to 1600MHz dual channel?

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>>59546398
Here

Basically Haswell was massive jump compared to everything else.

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Top temps for 4790k? Stock clocks

Running with an old 212+ I get around 55-65 playing Battlefield 1

>>59547880
I get the same with stock 4690k and 212 evo

>>59547847
So haswell is like 10-15% slower than sky/kaby?

Neat, seems like blindly getting a 4690k paid off for my use case

>>59547972
Or more like 5-10%

>>59547936
Seems about right then, thanks

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>Finland
How'd I do?

>>59548208
dogshit if gaming is the intended use

>>59548208
4GB 480 is the weakest link, great if GPU doesn't matter

>>59548208
use the stock cooler

do you really need an ssd?

>>59548406
>do you really need an ssd

not him but it's the thing that makes the PC responsive in 2017

>>59548423
Well his seems to be bigger than what's needed.

>>59546984
doesnt the g4560 come with a stock cooler?

get ddr4-2400

get a 2tb drive, its like 10 dollars more for 1 tb.

get a fractal design case.

>>59548275
All-round use intended, productive work and gaming.
>>59548393
What would you have recommended? All the other RX480's are ~30% more expensive, that one was on sale. GTX 1070 is 2x the price, GTX1060 3GB +30%, GTX1060 6GB +50%. Gaming on 1080p.
>>59548406
Yes, downgrading to a traditional HDD as boot drive is not an option. Will use HDD's as additional storage.

>>59547972
>>59547992
5.7% on average

>>59547847
You only call Haswell massive because Westmere or Nehalem isn't there.

>>59548540
For gaming a ~200€ CPU and a ~400€ GPU would've been better

So a cheaper ryzen or an i5 and a 1070

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>>59546984
SSD or nvme drive for OS, upgrade to rx 470 or 480. But I'd suggest that you wait for the ryzen r3 and r5, than buying a
>dual core
>in 2017

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/oznerol10/saved/FYrt6h When your build comes out $0.57 overbudget

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bBvvhq
Do you guys think the PSU is overkill?

>>59548839
Very much. You should get a 450, 550 at most

>>59548839
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Yhr24C
Fixed your build

>>59546984
Person you quoted here.
If you that much money left then go with an i5 7400, 7500 or 7600 (the best one if possible). If not keep the G4560.

You don't need a cooler. Those CPUs already come with one.

Motherboard is probably fine.

Get 2400mhz for the RAM if it's not that much more expensive than the 2133mhz. If you can't it's fine.

See if you can fit a 2tb. If not it's fine.

GPU looks good.

Check the Fractal cases. If not it's fine.

Windows 7 won't work on any of the CPUs I listed. Download Windows 10 from their website and mount it on an USB key. Google it if you don't know how to. Also, how do you plan on building it? Will you do so yourself or?

>>59546984
>>59548963
And if you can even squeeze out even more money get an i7-7700 which will last you a long time. Sometimes they're cheap. Currently best non-K CPU.

You don't strike me as rich or someone who'll want to ever overclock so ignore comments about getting a Z board or a K CPU.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wMQ8Cy
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wMQ8Cy/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($343.91 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z270X-Gaming 9 EATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($499.99 @ Jet)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-4000 Memory ($199.97 @ Jet)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($93.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital VelociRaptor 600GB 3.5" 10000RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital VelociRaptor 600GB 3.5" 10000RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Founder Edition Video Card ($714.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($115.89 @ OutletPC)

Asus 240Hz 1080p G-sync monitor
ekwb cutom cooling
Intel's 375 optane drive

>>59548932
Could you explain the why to your changes?
I don't mind paying more for durability and warranties. I've been told Samsung is the best ssd maker, and do I need a 3tb hdd?

>>59546776
>>59546984

>buying intel when ryzen exists

>>59548566
intel shill detected

>>59546332
Getting a i7 6700K. Not planning to overclock until I get a GPU a few months later. Should I install a 3rd party cooler right away or put the stock cooler on until then and install a new cooler with the GPU?

>>59548823
here i fixed it and made it cheaper
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rNHYqk

I'm planning to buy this for my 7700k.

https://www.amazon.com/Hyper-212-EVO-bracket-available/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=01E6Z76RRMRVJY95JTJG

Is this a wise move or a garbage?
Is it enough for a 7700k?

So I don't want my parts to die if I buy the wrong PSU. I have this part list, so what wattage PSU should I get when the PC is at its max(i.e. gaming)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZMYy3F

>>59549115
>getting an i7 6700K
get a 7700K straight away.

7700K is not recommended only if you already possess a 6700K

"K" designated processors don't have stock coolers. You'll need a 3rd party one right away.

Why dudu seriously believe icouldmake a fucking pc
God i just
Fuck
ffucccj i cant do this shit anymore
Fuck i need tech support to build it i give up
I give up godddmnyt i am too fucking matoofrduckmad
Gdi gidigdi
Fuckyouwhydidntijustbuyprebuitlfuckguckfuckypu
Ihateyouallihateyoualihateyoaal
Fuckinglaughfuckinglaughwhydontyouitsallgeverdoescantaskforhelpjustlolatthenirmiehahahahhajfuckyou

>>59549219
buy a fucking mac and shut the fucking fuck up

>>59549219
All you gotta do is bend the pins back straight man

>>59549219
It's basically adult legos. If Terry Crews can do it, so can you.

>>59549189
>"K" designated processors don't have stock coolers. You'll need a 3rd party one right away.
Oh huh, that explains why it had none mentioned in the listing. Thanks, anon.

>>59549219
>couldnt put legos together
nigga
calm the fuck down
come back to it tomorrow

>>59549246
Oh yeahnow he says butty mayc after 2000 fucking dollars 2000fuckinhdollars im not getting back stuck on my phone and my goddamn coach won't answer i just need this the breathingexercises wonthelp i want to kill something theres spit on the fuckig screen and my treeth hurt and i dont know why im typing but it helps ooh neighbors are banging on the wallas hhahaha dannys goong to jaaaaaail

>>59549304
Post pic of your trashed compooter

>>59549326
and feet too pls

I'll have to build my computer in a few days. I've watched enough videos about thermal paste to know how to do this, same for my cooler, I know how to mount it.

What I'm scared about though are stuff I need to connect to the mobo. It's sort of intimidating.

>>59549326
Yeah why to laugh at me hahahahahajanahahhHhahhahahHajajajajaaha fuck you
Fuckyou you fuck fuckyou

Best cooler for a 7700k that doesnt interfere with RAM clearance?
100 usd budget

>>59549346
You read the ikea tier picture books that game with the mobo carefully and it's not too bad

>>59549346
https://youtu.be/n2dJvqU2_x4?t=1126
All you'll ever need, even if you've watched/read other guides.

>finished new build
>scared to turn it on

>>59549378
I got the H7 but I don't plan on OCing much. You probably need something more solid if you wish to.

>>59549390
Pcpartpicker building videos are nice but I have a feeling like he's often overlooking important points one should be careful about.

>>59549411
I'll check this cheers.

>>59549411
In case you view it embedded, skip to 18:46.

>>59549087
I replaced your SSD and hard drive with better, cheaper programs. With the amount you're paying, I'm assuming you won't be loading everything onto SSDs, so I just gave you a 120GB so you can load your OS and whatever games you want on there, and yhe rest on the HDD. Yes Samsung is pretty good, but most likely you wouldnt notice the difference unless you needed a fast ssd for important reasons like your job. I changed your graphics card from a 4gb to an 8gb because why not, its still cheaper then your original build. You could probably sneak a 480 in there if you had the budget. I swapped your psu because EVGA is not as trustworthy as Seasonic. Also, you dont need 650W

>>59549425
Well I didn't really watch any videos and just used the guide that came with my mobo (all parts pretty much came with guides but the mobo guide was obviously the best) and that was all I needed to figure what goes where and in what order

Is there a really noticeable gain in m.2 ssd?
Looking to buy a 500gb m.2 for OS and some progams and gaymz, while using a normal 1 Tb ssd for other gaymz and finally a 4Tb Hdd for media and such

Gonna be used on a z270 mobo

>>59549447
Not much difference in gaming/casual shit.

>>59549434
>better cheaper programs
Am i high? I meant storage
>>59549139
Meh, decent build, but i have this bad boy just in case ryzen 5 actually seems good at launch
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HbfYqk

>>59549425
>I got the H7
Nice, I also dont plan on OCíng too much, in fact I was debating between the H7 or C7

>>59549428
Yeah I got it.

>>59549441
I'll take my time I guess and triple check everything.

>>59549469
Definitely H7 I'd say. 7700K can get really hot from all the benchmarks, tests, videos etc I've seen, best playing it safe and getting a tower rather than a low profile cooler. Price is similar I think too. If you can squeeze out more there's the H5 that's slightly better than the H7 but it's not cost effective I think.

Could someone recommend a keyboard please? I just spent hours looking for a keyboard and a mouse over amazon and while I did find a decent and cheap mouse (G300S, looks perfect since I have girly hands and use a crawl position) I couldn't find a decent keyboard.

It's mostly chink shits that break after a few months, and even for seemingly normal keyboards I often read people saying how keys input twice when hit and other similar annoyances. Please help.

is it worth getting a beefier cooler to try to squeeze 5ghz out of my 4790km currently at 1.35v at 4.8 with a pretty small cooler (noctua uh14s) running stable around 86c after 30 mins of full load with no throttling

>>59549520
It's pretty hard to fuck it up to be honest, though I spent 15 minutes figuring shit out until I realized I forgot the GPU power cables

doing it in the right order makes shit easy

>>59549554
Do you want a mechanical one? If so, what switches and what price point?

>>59549594
I don't think I do, I imagine decent ones are expensive, but if you have recommendations go ahead.
I'd just like a normal, solid, cheap keyboard which doesn't douuble (see that shit?) letters and feels good to type with.

>>59549619
Mechanicals can go for quite cheap actually, it just depends on what kind of switches you are looking for. What price point are you looking at?

>>59549619
There's $40 mech keebs out there

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-KUMARA-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B016MAK38U/

I´m looking to buy a ultrawide with higher refresh rate,I´m looking at the Microboard-M340CLZ-34
wich is a VA panel and goes up to 100Hz and is only 700usd

or

the Samsung C34F791, its Quantum Dot, goes up to 100Hz but is 940

The change of panel is worth the 240 increment? Just gonna be used for gaming

>>59549434
Thanks, makes sense.

>>59548208
breddy gud :DDDD

>>59549065
>meme performance hard drives

Just buy fucking SSD.

>>59549670
>cherry mx green equivalent switches
Cherry mx green isnt even good in the first place. Why opt for an even worse equivalent of a bad key switch? Get this one
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823816015&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

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>>59546332
What's your opinion on this build?

>>59549420
Oh yeah. I love the thrill of waiting to see either it burst into flames or just run fine.

>>59549973
have fun running your 3200 Mhz ram at 2133

>>59549973
Get some regular RAM. LEDs add nothing of value and are just an overpriced gimmick.

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Just got the first shipment of parts for my build today. First time I've ever spent some real money on a PC.

>>59549973
Good luck OCing your CPU to 4.0GHz max when a 1700 could do exactly the same thing with a lower TDP, and a i7-7700K could do that with its base clock

>>59549973
>LED RAM
>LED

>>59550007
The alternate is lower clocked ram for about $15 less. Australia isn't great for tech.
>>59549989
Is this an am4 issue?
>>59550035
I want them cores. Is the 1700 really a better choice?

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>>59550066
Alright alright non led ram

>>59550068
For your money it is. If you got money to burn, then go for the 1800X or a Xeon that can actually handle over 2400MHz RAM

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>>59546332
Hey /g/ i have all my components except a non-dinosaur tower. This thing looks like it would have shit ventilation but what do you think does it work for now?
Ill be running an i5 6600k w/ hyper212, gtx1050, 1tb hdd and 500w psu on z170xp sli
Go ahead and rate my parts list too i guess.
>babby's first build

>>59550068
Most AM4 boards are having issues with memory
that said, it isn't impossible to get close to 3200 Mhz right now
but the highest I have seen is 2966 on AM4 boards (currently), and you have to have the ability
to change the BCLK on the board to reach those speeds.

>>59550094
Holy shit it costs almost as much as the LED shit. Fuck dude. I'm actually sad about prices in Canada/Aus/NZ compared to the states.

>>59550111
>hyper212
It's best if you get a new case since that dino case, while it could make a good sleeper case but then you should probably get a cpu cooler with a lower profile. The 212 is tall.

>>59549789
>already have an SSD

why not just try this meme drive, who gives a fuck?

>>59548208
AMD is so cheeky for stealing the B350 chipset name name.

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>>59550177
It is huge next to everything else, but it does fit into the case just fine, unless theres another issue im missing?

>>59550234
>but it does fit into the case just fine
That's fine then. Just be aware that installing the thing is a bitch.

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>>59550094
>>59549973
Okay. I've switched it to a 1700 and dropped the x370 mobo. I'm keeping the ram at 3000mhz because it's only $10 more than 2133 and maybe am4 will get it's shit together in the future.

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Should I return or should I use this?

All I have is a 970 for now tho.. :(

Wanted to get a 1080 in a month or two

>>59549649
I don't know anything about switches so I'd have to inform myself beforehand. I don't think I want to spend more than 30-40€ or so, and only if I'd know it'd be something solid that wouldn't die the first year.

>>59549670
>>59549914
To be fair the one you linked is twice as expensive.

>>59550396
You need to be willing to spend more in order to have a good keyboard that will last you.

>>59550427
OK, let's say I have no budget, what would you recommend?

>>59550427
How's https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015MPQQ0A?psc=1 ?

>>59550458
Cheap chink shit that I haven't heard a lot about so you are taking a lottery.
>>59550447
Filco and Ducky are solid brands.

>>59550314
Might as well go with a 1080ti if you're spending that much cash d e s u

>>59550314
>spending $785 for 1080 when you can get the T version for $85 less
Stupid goy

>>59550495
>>59550537
1080Ti is $1129 on this website. Australian prices.

>>59550214
it's your money, I guess

>>59549974
It turned on and the LEDs flickered then turned off :)

Awesome

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Anyone else has trouble rationalizing builds over a certain price point? When I was a NEET it was anything over 500 and now its anything over 1000.

>>59551002
$1k is still enough for a solid build.

>>59551002
>>59551020
>they even bother with sub 3k builds

may as well just get a gayming laptop lads

Thred is ded

I accidentally touched the bottom of my processor, am I fucked?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HJXC9W

Is there anything I should change for this build? I'm ok having a 21.5" monitor by the way. Was thinking of either getting the P400S or the Corsair Vengeance C70.

>>59551401
I just saved you about 12 dollars with better hardware
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qDZnKZ

>>59551445
That mobo doesn't support 3200mhz RAM.
How is a 120GB SSD "better hardware"?
I have heard SeaSonic isn't to be trusted for PSUs, is that true?
What's the difference between the Gigabyte adaptor and the TP-link one?

>>59551476
>that mobo doesnt support 3200 mhz ram
Why are you buying it?
>hows is a 120 GB SSD "better hardware?"
Doubt youre gonna put more that your OS and a couple gaymes on there. You dont need that much space.
>seasonics
>untrustable
HOW DARE YOU YOU NEET!?!?!? ARE YOU A FUCKING GULLIBLE NEWFAG???
>tl:dr whoever said seasonics is bad is literally retarded
>gigabyte vs toilet paper link
The gigabyte adapter is cheaper and also has Bluetooth

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>>59551476
>seasonics untrustable
Get out.

>>59550149
>and you have to have the ability to change the BCLK on the board to reach those speeds.
No you don't. I'm running mine at 2933 on a shity Anus board and it, like all the others, have ram multipliers that go up to 3200. External BCLK is only needed if you want to go above 3200 (or to 3200 using a lower multiplier like 2933 as that native mc's 3200 is fuckd with current microcode on almost everyone)

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>CPU fan starts randomly stopping (0 RPM) and then shooting up to 85c+ then starting back up to max then stopping again over and over
>wtf my cpu gone die
>Remember microcenter protection plans
>pack shit up
>go back to microcenter
>mobo is kill gib mony
>here u go

I paid I think 12 dollars difference. I do good?

>>59552155
Probably. Nice dubs

>>59550031
>Hyper212
>for a 7700k

Wowwwww, please stop

>>59551576
Seasonics are the best

but that chart is bogus shit.

>>59552179
Hyper212 is pretty comfy. I don't know about the noise level of stock coolers, but 212 is comfy silent.
But as you say, he's a faggot. Only good for very minor overclocking, might as well not overclock at all.

>>59551556
Ok, made some edits, how does this look?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W9yDTH

How is this for a build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s993vV

My goals are simply 1080p gaming and also being able to stream it. Not aiming to be a top streamer or anything. I just like streaming to a group of friends occasionally but my current rig cannot do much else but stream emulator stuff. That's why I went with the i7.

My budget is $1400

>>59552155
>H270
>AMD

what did they mean by this?

Not really anywhere else to ask so I figured here

Any decently thin laptops with 1050ti but also still decent battery life for productivity stuff?

>>59552432

Get a 1700 instead.

Alright lads, I'm looking to spend the very minimum here meaning no ssd, cheap video card, etc...I'm a video editor that needs faster rending speeds. The main component of this build needs to be the ryzen 1700. Anything else can be whatever. I also need 18 gigs of ram. Those two parts are mandatory. I'm even considering not even getting a case and just leaving the parts in the air. Help me please!

>>59552485
It's actually cheaper, once you consider the fact you will be saving ~$40 on the mobo.

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need an eatx case. where?

>>59546332
I'd like to show my support for an idea of using stock coolers. I use my i5-7400 with its stock cooler and it fares surprisingly well after adjusting the fan curve. During normal usage it stays around 50C/1030rpm, only when running Prime95 it reaches 75C@1200rpm. It's cool, it's quiet, it's cheap.

>>59552480
thanks for the help...

At the time I bought my 4690k I didn't think I was making a legendary decision. 2 years later and it's still worth the same price I paid for it if not more. btfo

If I get a ryzen CPU, install windows 7 on the HDD/ssd, will I still be able to install the service packs or is it just barebones windows 7 with no updates at all?

>>59549065
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rnTqWX
This board clocks better and cheaper if you only need 2 sticks.

DDR4 4266

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>>59548460
>>59548963
>>59548820
>>59547366

Thanks for the suggestions, now I feel more confident about it. But if something still feels off, please don't hesitate to tell me about it

>>59548993
Is there really much of a difference between i7-7700 and i5-7600? The only one I could find was that i7's operating frequency is 3.6 ghz, while i5's is 3.5. This doesn't look like an improvement that I could notice.

>Also, how do you plan on building it? Will you do so yourself or?

Since I don't really know anyone who is interested in gaming (and computers in general), I guess I'll try building it myself. My plan for when something goes wrong is to come here and figure out what I'm doing wrong. I've also watched a few building videos to prepare myself.

I realise that I'm putting a lot of faith in myself but oh well, that's the only option I have for now

baught the hp z600 (230$)
replaced the x5550's with 2 x5675 (12 cores) $135's
still use gtx 760 Giabyte cuz why the fuck not.
and i use it for Gaymen

>>59553173
and oh forgot, the 2 x5675 is 12 cores 24 threads at 3,06ghz

>>59552432
If you want to stream, 1700

Currently the 6700K / 7700K only have a niche when shooting for 144hz in current games. Faster frequency, but performance when streaming at any decent bitrate if the game has four threads or more. 1700 has cores to throw around even if the base game doesn't use them.

Make sure you buy fast DDR4, it actually scales performance on Ryzen. Best boards are Gigabyte and Asrock currently. Asus laid a rotten egg this time around.

>>59549147
>he bought a housefire

>>59549378
how about not buying a housefires

>>59550323
>He bought a 7700k
AHAHAHA

we memed another one boys

>>59551401
WD is trash, go seagate or HGST

>>59553151
Ryzen is better than that housefire

>>59552480
Go on PCpartspicker and create a preliminary build with the 1700 and your RAM so that we can help you from there.

>>59553641
t. salty AMDrone

>>59553713
i didn't mention amd once buddy, nice projection you got there

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>>59553713

>>59553151
>Is there really much of a difference between i7-7700 and i5-7600? The only one I could find was that i7's operating frequency is 3.6 ghz, while i5's is 3.5. This doesn't look like an improvement that I could notice.
The i7 has hyperthreading, which means virtually 8 cores as opposed to 4.

You can see its overall gaming performance compared to other Intel CPUs here :
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-03/amd-ryzen-1800x-1700x-1700-test/3/#diagramm-gesamtrating-spiele-full-hd
As you can see it wins 7% over the i5-7600, and in general wins over anything that is not the 7700K (a lot of i7 in there don't count as they are $1000 professional CPUs).

Build is looking pretty good, up to you now to ask for more advice from everyone or buy it. Also, if you're interested in waiting, Ryzen 5 CPUs are just around the corner. Up to you decide whether or not it'd be worth it. I recently with Intel so this is what I could help with, if you need infos regarding Ryzen and newly made AMD boards I'm afraid I won't be able to help. Good luck.

>>59553151
>>59553990
Also worth saying that if I were you, I wouldn't buy that graphic card and simply save up for a better one. The i7 has an integrated GPU (HD Graphics 630 https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=HD+Graphics+630) built inside anyway so you'll still be able to turn your computer ON and even play some little games for a little while. As of now that GPU will bottleneck your CPU pretty hard.

VEGA cards are coming soon so if you can wait a little more I believe it'd be worth it (prices might drop), on top of the Ryzen 5 chips too.

If you can't wait then get one if the i5s I listed or the Pentium and get a RX 470 or 480 or something, but mind you that won't be really future-proof.

getting a 1080ti when the manufacturer versions come out. any recommendations on 1440p 144hz monitors? IPS panels seem like they lack any quality control and most of the monitors are designed like they're meant to match CS:GO knife skins. is there a panel & manufacturer /g/ prefers?

I need a new case, what do I get? I'm air cooling.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/7b2pKZ

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Thoughts on this?

>>59554978
Anyone?

>>59554162
I don't think you should worry about monitor looks, tbqh.

The only person who sees it is you

I don't have a CD/DVD drive on my new computer, means I can't install the mobo drivers I got with it. Can't I just download them online? Worst case scenario I can plugin some DVD drive I got my that sounds annoying.

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Is this okay or i am retarded or both? I plan on using a r7850 until i get money for a new videocard

so i found out dvi supports sound. is this a normal thing or is it just a thing supported by my 1070.

i get sound when i use a dvi-d to hdmi connector. i use dvi on the gpu and hdmi on my monitor.

>>59555560
You're buy an unlocked cpu for overclocking with a mobo that doesn't support overclocking. Either change CPU or mobo

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my old graphics card died recently so I got the 1070, then decided I want to upgrade the CPU only to discover I'd have to update the mobo and ram (pc is from 2013)

so I'm learning all this hardware stuff, does this look good?
mainly using for gaming but also 3D work CAD, Revit

Any chance of some new 144hz 1440p g sync hdr ips monitors coming out soon?

When can we expect the next big price drop for CPUs? I cant afford to get a pc all at once and I'm not sure if buying it bit by bit is gonna fuck me as prices drop over time

>>59556211
Why is that i5 so expensive

>>59556402
Australia

>>59556252
I don't recommend buying bit by bit. What if something you buy doesn't work and you need to send it back? What if then the warranty is over?
Amazon has amazing custom services but it's only up to 30 days IIRC. I don't know about other websites since I'm EU, but you get the idea.

What are you aiming for?

>>59553650
How? It has lower failure rates than Seagate.

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Should I get the Corsair Vengence C70 or the Phanteks P400S for my computer case? This decision is eating me alive and I have no idea what to chose.

Pic related is the corsair case for reference.

Why pick a 1700 over 6700K?

What's a good price for a used 1080 I've been seeing them go for ~440 is that good you can get new ones for 500 lol

>>59557088
straight up 400 or tell them to fuck off.

>>59557199
I figured as much thanks anon

>>59556854
phanteks

>>59546332
best 800 europoor computer? for my sister

I live in Finland.

I already have these to put in her build:
R9 390
600W PSU
DVD drove

windows 10 and a monitor needs to fit in that 800 euros

>>59557304
https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Show/121236/lc24f390fhuxen/samsung-24-c24f390fhu-kaareva-full-hd-monitori-musta

also I was looking at this monitor, isn't it nice for the price? also has freesync

620€ to work with for the rest if I choose this monitor though

>>59557304
>I live in Finland.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DC8rnn

>>59557341
is that pentium gaming capable? she wants an okay gaming experience if it's not possible for this price then she just wants to get a 300€ prebuilt piece of shit

>>59557341
also as I said I already got a GPU and a PSU

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>>59557304
>>59557335
how's this? she doesn't need a lot of storage so I figured an SSD would be better but is that CPU a shit choice?

>>59557569
Why would you spend 119$ on Windows? First, pirate it, and get Enterprise LTSB, but if you still want to get Windows, go to allkeyshop and get it for 15$ or less.

>>59557614
my sister wants a windows computer and doesn't want to deal with her windows license suddenly being cancelled

>>59557645
Then, do what I said, get a Windows 10 key, it's official and shit.

http://www.allkeyshop.com/blog/buy-windows-10-professional-cd-key-compare-prices/

After some taxes it won't go above 15$

>>59557645
>>59557676
Also, with that save, you could spend a little more to get an i5-7500 and then a 2400MHz RAM and maybe even a newer mobo. I think that one is from last year.

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>>59557710
how about this then, I doubt the mobo matters to her

>>59557772
Yeah, that's kinda better. You will have to tell your sister to download all the shit to the HDD and leave the SSD for programs and the SO.

>>59557614
>Enterprise LTSB
Could you develop please?

Not him but I'm building my computer as I'm typing now and I made an USB with Win10 from their website. My plan was to install it to then use Toolkit on it and that's it. I am fine doing that or is there a better alternative I don't know of?

>>59556854
Phanteks for lyfe

>>59557772
Well, it will matter if it stops working because it's a cheap piece of shit.

>>59557825
it has full warranty

>>59557772
You need a B250 mobo for that processor.

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Is this worth? I really want it. Was gonna get a FTW2 1070 but I figured I could save a bit more and go all out.

>>59557843
https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Show/126209/b250i-gaming-pro-ac/msi-b250i-gaming-pro-ac-mitx-emolevy

okay I'll probably get this because she absolutely wants wifi too

>>59557811
Less bloated and telemetry. The average Joe won't care at all. It doesn't have Cortana or these fucking ads when you press the Windows button.
I did a fresh Windows install not so long ago and it even looked good out of the box.

I bought a fucking 6700 non k because I didn't wanted to spend more money in a Z mobo, but I'm regretting this decision.
Is there a big difference between 4.0 and 4.5 GHz.?
Should I sell this? I got it for 230 dollars.

>>59557849
>is it worth it
1080p? No
>I really want it
Then get it

>>59557864
Can I upgrade Windows to that said version using Toolkit or am I forced to download it from I-don't-know-where?

>>59557880
If you have to ask, you won't notice the difference.

>>59557890
I'm in 1080p but 144Hz, also upgrading to higher resolution seems nice once I have a graphics card to back it up.

>>59557899
Download from msdn. "Techbench-dump"

>>59557880
If it's fine for what you're currently doing why bother? Use it for a while until you have your eyes on a future processor that'll really feel like an upgrade, like IceLake or Ryzen 2.

>>59547663
I have my 4690k oc'd to 4.2 on all cores at all times, it's pretty sweet with such a small boost. I can go for more, but I'm too lazy.

>>59557910
In that case, go for it.

>>59557899
Don't listen to him, LTSB doesn't have all the updates, you'll fuck yourself over getting this over normal Win10.

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okay is this retarded?

case will change to something my sister likes

board might change to a bigger one + separate wifi card if it turns out to be cheaper or more reliable

and as I already mentioned, already got:
R9 390
600W PSU
DVD drive

>>59557901
Why tho?
>>59557927
Well I actually don't need it. I will keep it for now, thanks.

>>59557938
4.2 is a 10% clock boost from 3.8 on all cores, kind of a baby OC

>>59557943
>implying that's bad
It gets the updates it actually needs and not just Cortana upgrades or more telemetry.

>>59557952
It's ok, yes, but I'm finding that mobo a little too much expensive, thought I haven't too much prices for the b250.

>>59557958
Because you don't even need or have proper use for an i7, let alone the extra 500MHz on the K.

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>>59546332

Just asking if memory will work with Motherboard, and if the CPU will work out of box or if Im gonna get hit by need an older CPU to update Bios bullshit.

>>59557975
I just used the jimm's site she'll probably buy the parts from and the cheaper reliable ones are all 99€

then there's two for 85€ but they have bad reviews

so I figured that extra 30 bucks is about the price of a properly working wifi card anyway

>>59557952
I have the same board but not built the system yet. The wifi chip is intel and they have drivers for Linux on their web page so should be good for Linux. The reason i got the MB.

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Super poorfag here with a i5 760, my GT 9600 just died and I'm looking for a new GPU. Locally I can get a r7 260X 2GB for $50 CAD or a r7 370 2GB for $100 CAD. The newest games I play are from 2011 and some minor video editing which I know these cards will have no problem handling, but is it worth paying $50 extra for a card that might be more future proof?

>>59558020
yeah I figured going with an actual intel wifi chip is better than using some third party no driver shit

this is going to a windows machine though

I myself got like a 70€ asus pce AC68 wifi card and it's absolute dogshit without any proper drivers for fucking windows

>>59546984

>1050 Ti

NIGGER

>>59557996
Looks like PCpartspicker have an compatability check that says no conflicts found. Guess Im good 2 go.

Putting Windows 10 on my USB stick. NTFS or FAT32?

>>59558137
>FAT32

dude what are you doing

Planning a build with the following:
MOBO: Asus PRIME Z270-A ATX LGA1151
CPU: Intel Core i5-7600 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
HS: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB
SSD: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5"
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout Edition w/ Window ATX Mid Tower Case

Thoughts?

>>59558173
get m.2 SSD

mobo is on the uselessly gamer money meme side but whatever it werks

>>59558173
also I missed it but fucking retarded to get a 7600 with that mobo and cooler

>>59558173
Use the stock cooler.

>>59558173
(realized I forgot to type this):

For MOBO, I am useless. Any suggestions otherwise? This one was on logical increments and is compatible, no other reason to pick it.

For the CPU, I won't overclock. Thus I figured any K versions are not worth the price for the little extra power they have unclocked.

For PSU, my current PSU is partly modular (Rosewill Capstone 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply). Am I going to find myself with much more work? Does anyone find platinum makes much of a difference?

Any feedback appreciated!

>>59558211
m.2?

>>59558229
7600 with mobo/cooler is bad because I won't overclock, thus overpaying for mobo and wasted cooler?

I don't overclock my current CPU (i5-3570k), I have the 212 evo for it. It generally does not go over 40ºC which I like. Nice and quiet.

>>59558248
Will stock cooler be quiet / impact longevity of CPU?

>>59557942
Thanks for the advice desu

>>59558296
>m.2

yeah it allows faster SSDs

>7600

yeah with that CPU you really just want to get a hyper 212 evo or some equivalent and you should not pay that much for a mobo, way cheaper mobos do the same job reliably

if you want to spend this amount of money then instead get an i7

>>59558296
It will be louder and maybe a few more degrees, but you don't need an aftermarket cooler for a non k CPU. Read the OP.
I have an i5 4460 and replaced the cooler getting the same temps but a little more quiet.

>>59558173
>Mobo
Don't get a Z-series mobo if you don't plan on overclocking. A B-series is better.
>CPU
I would go with the 7500 since hyperthreading is only worth it for video rendering and other things.
>Cooler
Don't get a cooler if you don't plan on overclocking
>GPU
Good.
>SSD
Good.
>No HHD
Get an HHD, you will thank me later.
>RAM
Good, but you will have to get a lower frequency RAM if you are getting a B-series mobo.
>PSU
Good
>Case
As long as you like it, you should be fine.
>>59558259
The one on logical increments assumes you will be overclocking. If you aren't, there is no reason to get it. A 80+ Gold fully modular PSU should have all the stuff you need. Be sure to go with EVGA, Corsair, or SeaSonic for your PSU.
>>59558296
M.2 SSDs are faster and smaller than regular SSDs. Honestly, temps do not make a difference in performance unless you are overclocking. The stock cooler will get a bit loud but you are getting a free cooler so I don't really complain. Ryzen will be getting (arguably) better coolers come R5's release next month so if you want a better stock cooler I would wait until then.

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>>59555772
Is this better senpai?

>>59558327
>>59558329
Thank you both. I am going to toss that heatsink. I might get the 212 Evo for noise control, will think about it for a while.

Time to do some research into SSD and mobo, but I will be checking back here if any suggestions. Thanks again!

>>59558173
>mobo
get cheaper
>CPU keep it or use the money you spare for an better one
>HS
this is for overclocking, instead get a 212 evo so you get quiet and perfectly fine temps
>GPU
decent
>SSD
m.2
>RAM
no problem
>PSU
no problem
>case
no problem

>>59558384
Yeah you can overclock now. What are you planning on doing with this build?

>>59558429
Playing in 1080 with current videocard, 4k when i get a new one

>>59558451
I think that you can find faster ram for same price

>>59558366
For MOBO, thoughts on:
MSI B250M GAMING PRO LGA 1151 Intel B250 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 Micro ATX Motherboards - Intel
?

I have external HDD. Are you recommending internal HDD in addition? If so, why?

>>59558468
Yeah i am not from USA so i only use that site to make the list, just check in the site from my country and that ram is out of stock so i will look for another model

>>59558542
Where are you from?

>>59558540
That seems good. Internal HDDs are usually faster than external ones.

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>>59558576
Argentina

>>59558598
Make sure to look up reviews for every product before you get it

>>59558422
>>59558327
For m.2 SSD:
- Are m.2 and m.2 2280 significantly different?
- Why do they all look like bare chips, rather than in cases?
- Are they significantly faster than other SSD?

>>59558619
Okay, thanks senpai

>>59558657
for example the 960 evo m.2 SSD has read speeds of up to 3000MBs and writes of up to 1800MB/s

while the regular sata SSDs seem to limit themselves to around 500MB/s both in read and write

>m.2 2280
no it's just a form factor

>>59558701
Thank you.

Looking at newegg, this SSD seems reasonable;
Intel SSD 600p Series (512GB, M.2 2280 80mm NVMe PCIe 3.0 x4, 3D1, TLC) Reseller Single Pack

Thoughts?

>>59558657
also it functionally doesn't matter if it's in a casing or not

>>59558682
Happy to help

>>59558716
1775MB/s read and 560MB/s write

way better reads than from a SATA SSD and Intel if obviously reliable

I think it's good for the price

there are faster options but they are a lot more expensive
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820147594

anyone know any pcie 8x ssd's?

>>59558802
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147373

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167412

like as a comparison, these cost about the same but the m.2 delivers 3x read speeds so it's a no brainer

>>59558720
Thank you - you've been very helpful. I understand more how it will look.

With the MOBO:
MSI B250M GAMING PRO Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

- It appears to support 7th Gen processors support DDR4 2400/ 2133 ; so my RAM should be DDR4 2400, since DDR4 3000 would be wasted?

- micro ATX mobo in a mid-tower case, should this worry me?

>>59558845
>- It appears to support 7th Gen processors support DDR4 2400/ 2133 ; so my RAM should be DDR4 2400, since DDR4 3000 would be wasted?
that motherboard only supports ddr4 2400 so you should buy ddr4 2400.

>- micro ATX mobo in a mid-tower case, should this worry me?
no

>>59558845
>buying b250 instead of b350
Another fool spotted.

>>59558942
>b350
fuck off with your ryzen shit

>>59556854
Phanteks unless you move your PC a lot. If you've ever felt a C70 in person it's NOT that sturdy. It's mid-low tier metal at best as far as thickness. It looks like a durable and sturdy ammo can but the metal simply is not that tough. Handles are handy, though. No pun intended. Really glad I bought my R2 XL instead of that for my case back in 2013.

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>>59546332
Guys i need help, i'm retarded, i don't know dick about computers but if a child can do this shit then so can i god dammit. This is my bullshit toaster of a PC

https://www.amazon.com/Gateway-DX4380G-UW308-A6-5400K-802-11n-Bluetooth/dp/B00C4UUFI6/ref=cm_cr_pr_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8

I need 3 things, a new fan, a new processor and a new graphics card all without going over a couple hundred $$$'s (300+ max). Fuck consoles i want to become master race. Which 3 of the things i mentioned will help me out + be decent at running games? I don't need a power house, just something that can get me stable fps.

>>59558997
The main thing that has me thinking about the C70 is the I/O on the front (as well as buttons) because a lot of cases don't have that and I feel like I would like that.

What case does /g/ recommends?

>>59559388
if you take a case reccomendation from these people you're a retarded sheep. Browse and look for one you like visually.

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>>59559027
Anyone? Please?

>>59559398
But thats boring and lame

>Country: Slovakia
>Ordered from: https://www.alza.sk/EN/
>Purpose: Gaming & Neural Network Research
>Monitor: 1080p, 60Hz

I've modified anon's list with another anon's suggestions.
I'm looking for any suggestion how to make this better/cheaper/cost effective.
CUDA enabled card is requirement.

MOBO: GIGABYTE B250-D3H (82€)
CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 (216€)
HFS: Noctua NH-U12S (62€)
GPU: MSI GTX 1060 6G (290€)
SSD: Samsung 960 EVO 500GB (268€)
RAM: Corsair 16GB DDR4 2400MHz CL14 Vengeance LPX (134€)
PSU: Got one (0€)
HDD: 1TB Got one (0€)
TOTAL 1052€

>>59559418
Check out the power supply, what is the wattage? Also see if mobo has standard power connector. I doubt you'd be able to do much aside from adding a HDD or SSD or adding some extra ram

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here is my build
hope the PSU won't burn down my house

will i notice an increase in performance if i upgrade from the i5 2320 to an i5 7600k? No games, just regular use like internet, torrenting and listening to music

How loud is the Ryzen Wraith spire cooler? I haven't seen many reviews on it, but if it's insufferably loud like the old ones, i'm going to get an aftermarket instead.

>>59559932
Do you already have SSD?

Just got a PSU in (first part of my build).

Do I trust it works or is there a way to test it?

>>59560432
Also, they want the UPC for the rebate... they really are forcing me to cut a hole in the box?

>>59560324

I heard its not terrible at 100%, but still loud. Its good for an OC up to ~3.7 on all cores. Its not a terrible cooler really, better than anything jewtel ships with thats for sure.
I would like to have the Wraith Max as an option with a 1700 though, that would be sweet.

>>59559536
Drop the 500GB 960 Evo to a 250GB 850 Evo. That'll save you a ton of dough.

R5 1400 or R5 1500X?

Is the 15X worth $20 more when I don't plan to overclock?

>>59560763
All of them are overclockable. The 1500X is only worth it if you want higher clock speeds and a better cooler. If you want a more budget option, the 1400 is th eway to go.

>>59560663
So there's no reason for the increased R/W?

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>>59553657
To be honest, I haven't really looked into Ryzen, but I did hear that it was a letdown?
//Also please don't get me too paranoid about all this fire talk, I'd probably die if that happened to me.

>>59553990
>>59554110

I see.. I'll trust your word/opinion and go with i7-7700, then. (Thanks again!)
I won't buy the graphic card now, but since I'll still be able to (hopefully) turn it on, I don't mind waiting a few months for it.


So, if I go with this list, which graphic card would you people recommend me?
My budget is £700, and this whole thing will cost me around £545, which leaves me with £155. I earn £100 a month and the longest I could wait for it would probably be 2 months. (that would be ~£355 together, however, I'd love if it cost slightly less than that)


Also, wouldn't I need to buy a new power supply, or is it alright if I used the one from my old pc?

Should I get the XFX GTR RX 480 8GB or a GTX 1060 6GB graphics card?

>>59560899
rx480 8gb

>>59560921
Why?

>>59560827
>buying windows
>home
you deserve to burn, Ganesh

>>59560934
more memory.

>>59560787
But I don't plan to overclock, really. Will I notice the difference in clock speeds in games?

>>59560980
20 fucking dollars is worth higher clock speeds and better cooler, 1500x all the day.

>>59560980
Check out the clock speed for each CPU. 1500X has higher clock performance per core than the 1400 but the 1600 and 1600X has multithread (8 cores iirc) clocking.

>>59546332

Putting on my trip temporarily for follow up questions...

I'm trying to build a reasonably budget friendly rig, any input is appreciated:

I have a GTX 770 migrating from an older machine, along with the PSU and some storage:

512 GB SSD
4 TB HD

>I'm looking at this case:

DEEPCOOL TESSERACT SW Mid Tower Computer Case with Side Window and 2 Blue LED Fans SGCC+PLASTIC+RUBBER COATING

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811853002&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Cases+%28Computer+Cases+-+ATX+Form%29-_-N82E16811853002&gclid=CjwKEAjwh9PGBRCfso2n3ODgvUcSJAAhpW5o7pudhLV2lHai7tBUBP-DP0SpjIUy2zbaq81-ix7_fhoCnHXw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

>CPU:

Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake Quad-Core 4.2 GHz

>Motherboard

Asus H170 ATX Motherboards H170

>RAM

16 GB of Corsair in a 2x 8 GB configuration

Eventually I'll upgrade the GPU and possibly the RAM.

>>59560812
Unless you need massive write for some truly massive workloads at all times, no.

>>59560967
Which one do you recommend, then? (I was being silly and didn't look too much into it, desu. I just saw 'home' next to it and got it, because, you know, I live in a home or something idk)

Also I just realised that there was a pro version..

>>59561140
Alright, thanks for the advice. This saved me ~120€.

>>59561140
BTW, the
>Samsung 960 EVO 250GB
costs as much as the 850 EVO 250GB. Any reason why I shouldn't go for this?

>>59560827
If you don't get a graphic card you should be careful to have a mobo that has the necessary slot to plug in your screen.

>>59560827
The fire thing is a meme, but the 7700K is a very hot CPU unless you delid it. Ryzen was only a disappointment to people who expected an 8c/16t to have better IPC than a 4c/8t that's clocked higher.

Ryzen 5 comes out in 2 and a half weeks, I would wait until then to decide on what to buy.

>>59560934
More memory, cheaper if you're in Burgerland, equal performance in practically everything, and you don't have to deal with GeForce Experience.

>>59561380
Could you elaborate on the GeForce experience?

>>59561404
To update your drivers you have to create a Nvidia account while you don't have to with AMD. Plus AMD supports their GPUs for much longer than Nvidia.

>>59561440
Now this puts me to unfortunate situation. I need nvidia card, but I'd rather not deal with the bs you mentioned.

what's even the point of high end pc gaming if year after year GPUs still can't handle 4k flawlessly?

likewise my aging 980 can't handle the new ghost recon wildlands maxed out 1080p, but neither can a 1080, so again, what's the fucking point?

>>59561380
If I'm looking at the RX 480 8GB, should I get the XFX GTR or the MSI model?

>>59561325
If you can get a 960 EVO for the price of a 850 EVO that is one hell of a steal.

>>59558540
Just remove the hdd from the external case and put it in the pc.

>>59546984
I suggest cutting the cooler, stock will be good enough
And definitely toss in the cheapest 120gb ssd you can find. The speed is worth the 40-50 dollars for the os and some games.

Otherwise good choices. Personally id go with Windows 8.1, better features, longer support and its about the same after installing classic shell to rid yourself of the tiled start screen

>>59562267
This anon here >>59559536
Is the G4560 better choice than 7500?

Hello lads, doing a budget build G4560, but unsure about the GPU I should go for.

Since the prices in my area (SVK, yurop) are about 120 for a 460 and 140 for a 1050, which should I pick.

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>>59562853

>>59562903
The Ti exceeds my budget a little but I take it that there's no reason to go for non Ti 1050

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Should I get this 21.5''
https://www.cnet.com/products/hp-elitedisplay-e221i-led-monitor-21-5/specs/
For $96 USD, new

Or this 23''
https://www.cnet.com/products/hp-compaq-la2306x-led-monitor-23-series/specs/
For $88 USD, semi-new

It will be my main display, and I'll use DP on it.

>>59562948
Just get the Ti. 2GB vRAM is not enough these days.

Why do you retards buy 4000 mhz ram at like 25 CAS? Do you even understand what the numbers mean?

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>>59562948
My bad. Personally, i'd still get a 460 or 1050 non-Ti.

>>59563016
Get an Rx 460 over a 1050 non-Ti, rather.

>>59563016
>>59562903
what site?

>>59563177
gpu.userbenchmark

>>59563016
The 460 fan looks oval...
I would say the 1050 is cuter though.

All I know is, whichever components I pick I'm gonna regret the decision later.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mjVdzM

this is my build which I mostly pulled from logicalincrements.com.
any suggestions on how to make it better/cheaper?

Need help choosing a motherboard for gaming pc, I don't really know anything about motherboards.
>i5 3570k
>gtx 1070
>might look at pci SSD in the future

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>>59563309
>Dual core CPU in the current year

>>59563388
need to keep it as budgety as possible, that's my sad reality...
got any alternatives?

>>59563388
R5 1400

>>59546332
I have a stupid question. I'm building a G4560/1050ti system. Is a decent ( seasonic ) 360W PSU sufficient for it? Would a 520W be an overkill?

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He guys I'm looking at getting a Ryzen 1700x in a new nzxt s340 pro case with one of the NZXT Kraken coolers. The coolers themselves are only like a 30 dollar diff between the smallest and largest mm rad (140/240/280) and they all fit in the case.

Does anyone have any experience with the coolers or new Ryzen stuff? I don't really know which mm cooler is appropriate for the CPU. Does radiator size make a big performance difference? Or is that mostly for the fit of the case?

>>59564100
Im also wanting to learn about AIO coolers, is there a huge difference between cheaper models and higher end stuff? do the cheaper ones risk failure/leaking?

how is this pair with R5 1400/1600
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QKYnKZ

>>59564158
buy a DH-15(S) and be happy, just make sure it fits

>>59564158
>>59564100
240rad is overkill for Ryzen a 120/140 will do just fine. Honestly just get a Hyper 212. Any voltage that needs more than that you shouldn't be running anyway.

>>59564483
Are the Noctua heatsinks better than other brands, or is it just the Noctua fans that are better?