boss is monitoring me

Maybe you should be on 4chan at home and actually be doing your job at work instead of trying to treat your boss like a cuck.

>>59535727
You're getting fired for being shit.

Then know you're weak enough to actually take this and continue being their pawn. If you had any ounce of respect or talent, you would leave and find another job.

>>59535727
Sorry to hear about that anon. Hope it all works out for you in the future.

>>59535803
>>59535821
>>59535841

i work in HR for a big company and there sometimes isn't much else to do really.

I get all my work done in a few hours and sit out the rest and chill. There can be days where i have literally nothing to do at all.

Should i change careers to do more with my life? I make 65k now and i get promoted even though i don't do anything.

I started with 43k like 4 years ago fresh out of college.

I don't know what to do with the money i earn, my job is not challenging at all and im bored all the time.

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should have gone incognito bro

>>59535727
use your phone instead

>>59535852
This anon has a good idea

>>59535848
Get into guns. You will burn that money and have a fucking blast.

>>59535727
>Be at work
>Decide to fuck around instead of actually... you know... work
>Wonder why you're being pulled in and told off for it
Believe it or not, the browsing 4chinz at work thing is a meme. The reason there's SFW boards is so when people go on their (own) phones/tablets/laptops while on their lunch break or out in public, there's less chance for CP or embarrassment

>>59535727
>Is this even legal?
Read your contract, if it's not specified there read work law of your country.

>Can i prevent this from happening again somehow?
Besides getting your shit together? TOR, incognito mode, proxy.

>>59535727
Phone posters win again!

>>59535848
>I sit around and do nothing all day
As fucking expected of HR. Jesus fucking fuck I hate you pricks.
If there's nothing to do, USE YOUR FUCKING INITIATIVE AND FIND/ASK FOR SOMETHING TO DO.

>>59535848
Good luck ever getting a job in that career again anyway

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>>59535852

i pretend to work and when i use my phone all the time it kinda becomes obvious ... i could do it i guess from time to time

>>59535865

if i had a gun id kill myself

>>59535867

i like the blue boards but you are right. Its sometimes scary cause some weeb shit might post hentai

>>59535869

theres obviously nothing in my contract that says i get monitored. I know the contracts very well since i write them myself lol.

I guess there aren't any laws against your boss telling you to start working properly.

>>59535882

why so mad at HR?! Where do you work?

>>59535883

my company has a big name so i dont think ill have problems finding a job somewhere else in that "career". I graduated from a top university. People in HR value these nice looking CVs i guess lol.

>>59535958
Doesn't matter where I work, what I'll say is this; we have a dedicated HR team of four people.
Yesterday, not a single fucking person was around.
The last couple of weeks, including up to today, we haven't had the upcoming weeks schedules ready to look at because of HR being lazy niggers until the Thursday/Friday/Saturday or sometimes even Sunday.
They spend their time doing all of this bollocks that isn't necessary (drawing posters about inane shit) but don't do the fucking important shit.
And when you go to them with an issue?
>"O-oh, sorry, I'm not trained to ______"
Even though that's their whole fucking job.

>>59535727

>Not assuming that in the first place

If you're not paying for the internet and you control none of the routers, you should assume anything you are doing on the connection is public, dumb frogposter, just like using the internet connection at your local Starbucks.

>>59535727
Could've bought a laptop and browser 4chinz from there. Also if you're bored you could also learn some new skills, like learn programming, unreal or something else.

Explain yourself faggot. You're an adult, you have a job, and you browse /g/ -- a fucking technology board, and you're incompetent enough to not know how to safely tunnel out of your jobs network? It's not fucking rocket science. You deserve it because you're either fucking incapable of basic problem-solving skills or you're lazy enough to browse imageboards on your companies dime and not caring that they might catch you.

>>59535958
>Nothing in my contract about being monitored
Never had a job before? Fucking hell, are you mentally cunted?
Of fucking course you've always got to assume you're being watched. Your being paid to WORK and your performance IS critical to you keeping your job. WHY should ANYONE want to hire someone who does jack fucking shit yet feels entitled to keep their job?

>>59536016
>WHY should ANYONE want to hire someone who does jack fucking shit yet feels entitled to keep their job?
Diversity quotas.

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>>59535976

sorry that you have such a bad experience with people from HR. I mean i like to think that ia ctually get my work done cause i do it and then chill. Its not like that i dont do anything at all but the workload can be so little.

Most people stretch it out over the ful lday i just do it in an hour or two and im done with it and chill the rest.

>>59535988

well i guess i felt too safe cause i progressed so quickly and nothing happened in 4 years.

>>59535990

why not bring a bed too?

>>59536012

im not a regular on /g/ tbqh

>>59536016

the irony is that im the one who hires people and not the other way around.

Its kind of sad. I sometimes look that applications and think to myself that this person is super qualified and knows all these things and did all these crazy things but we deny them cause they might not be a good fit or whatever.

Depends on the department they are needed for.

What is the extent of the monitoring? Do they have like a teamview/ remote access and are watching everything in real time? Could you not just setup a VM and run a vpn through it?

>>59535849
this desu senpai

xd

>>59535848
>i work in HR for a big company and there sometimes isn't much else to do really.
if that was really the case, you could just have defended yourself with that argument, right?

but in fact you are just not letting ur boss know youre free for more work


>>59535852
>use your phone instead
>>59535958
>i pretend to work
>>59535727 (OP)
well OP, then use your phone's internet, router it and connect from the PC and browse.

they are probably monitoring both via traffic, which you will bypassing via phone...
and also via some spy software on your computer, which probably works via LAN, but to be on the safe side, you could boot up a "Hirens Bootcd" or "ultimate bootcd for windows" from a flashdrive..

cant you just take a laptop to work and use it with smatphone internet?

>>59535849
incognito doesn't block traffic logs, only stops it from being collected on your own browser. IT guy will still see everything.

OP try using Tor, or browse on your phone while not being connected to local wifi

>>59536046

Even if nothing happened in 4 years, you can assume something like a "increase productivity" type initiative can happen and I bet a ton of other people besides you got caught at your company and it will now have the desired effect on your company and whoever initiated it will get a bonus/raise.

I just shit-post on my phone through 4G network while at work. Not that complicated.

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>>59536048

what they meant by that is that they will check what im doing on a regular basis and not just surprise me again with this in 4 years

honestly i'd just become a NEET. Daddy will leave me a nice inheritance and other people can go into the corporate world.

Im just stealing their opportunities by being a rich kid who got it all handed to him in his life.

>>59536075

ofc i told my boss that there isnt actually any work i havent done and told him i do it all and said the same things to him.

He just told me that he didnt expect this attitutde from me and thought i'd look for work myself etc blah blah.

>>59536088

sure. Usually we are ahead of these things and know about it since we are HR but they caught us off guard. Guess ill have to fire a few people soon cause they were even worse than me and browsed porn sites or whatever haha.

>>59536083
>>59535727
Yeah OP. Download Tor at work.

>>59535727
use your phone stupid phone poster.

>>59535958

>>59535867
>SFW boards is so when people go on their (own) phones/tablets/laptops while on their lunch break or out in public,
if its lunch break and your computer (and your internet maybe?)
why worry with NSFW shit, grow a fucking pair, other than prospective females thinking less respectably of you, a grown person shouldn't explain himself, i bet youre like a friend of mine who hides porn from his girlfriend on His computer, last time mine tried to get satisfaction from me for fiding porn on my cellphone ended up having to explain why she was spying my shit instead of just using my whatsapp to contact my cousin, grow a fucking pair

>>59536105

Phone poster GTFO

>>59536125
This is bad advice. The sysadmin is going to know that you're using Tor and his boss is just gonna drill him more.

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>>59535727
I'm a proxy admin for my company. If you're in the US, yes it's legal. If you're in EU countries it varies. I have no knowledge outside of that.

This is stupid stupid stupid. Always assume company internet is monitored. As others have said, phone post if you must (and if it's a company phone run by an MDM don't even fucking do that because it's 50/50 it's run back through the same proxy).

you are lucky you got off with a warning frankly because if our HR saw the shit on 4chan they would shit themselves from fear of offensive and obscene material (if it was just /g/ you could argue it's worksafe but w/e just no).

To avoid:
1. If you must use company browser and proxy is set by GPO - no avoiding.
2. If proxy is set by wpad/option252 DHCP then you can override in internet options.
3. IE and chrome use DHCP first then DNS (the non-ratified RFC says DHCP is supposed to trump but it's not an official standard so people ignore it). Firefox uses DNS first but also can be overridden.
4. Assuming you can override it if they have open internet they're stupid. The chances are you would need a different proxy. Unlikely.
5. SSL content is only monitored with SSL bump. Sometimes you can play with this. If SSL is actually secure you could corkscrew/ssh/tunnel out.
6. If it's SOCKS goodluck.

But seriously, why not just do your job and suck it up?

>>59535848
IT guy here. Dont fuck with us.

No, really. There is not many things that infuriate an IT staff than a user trying to play the smartass with us.

A capable IT guy will be able to see EVERYTHING that you do on the corporate network. One thing that users dont seem to realize (or pretend they dont realize) is that the network access and the computer that the company provides you to do your work are company's property, not yours.

Besides, you are payed to do your job. Dont like the rules? GTFO! nobody is forcing you to stay! but if you do, dont go ranting on FB and twitter.

>>59535849
This doesnt solve much, again, a capable IT staff will be able to watch your traffic.

>>59535869
Dunno mate, buy a book, or an audiobook or something instead of wasting IT, your boss and your company's time

>>59535869
>Can i prevent this from happening again somehow?
>Besides getting your shit together? TOR, incognito mode, proxy.
Again, this will altert IT staff sooner or later, and you'll be flagged as a troublemaker that is putting company's assets at risk by circumventing internet access restrictions.

>>59536163
pretty sure >>59536125 meant it sarcastically. that's how I read it, anyways

>>59536201
I disagree and go the other way. I like the challenge presented and if OP is too stupid to know he has a giant fucking target on him and will likely get "special" treatment and attention I want to give him a way to carry on for a while until the flaming hand of justice reaches forth from the server room.

>yeah OP it's not fair!
>you should totally show those guys your tech superiority

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>>59536201
>IT guy here. Dont fuck with us.

>>59536201

>besides, you are payed to do your job

Didn't OP say that he gets his job done? I don't see the problem.

>IT monkeys pretending to know shit again
>mfw

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>>59536164
>>59536201
>>59536240

yeah i dont want to cause more trouble. Ill find out who else got fucked by the fech fags from our department.

In the end we are HR and we can just fire back and put a target on them lol.

Honestly i could start a conspiracy so big i'd get them all out and just hire new incompetent IT fags from /g/ that have no clue what they are doing and i can shitpost again.

I could turn their life into hell with constant performance meetings, budgeting shit and what not. Get Finance in and we all gang up on IT lol.

Not sure if its worth the effort and im not that much of a psychopath but it could be a fun game to get into tbqh.

>>59536245
there's a simple special script I save for this
once a minute run taskkill /m target /im browser.exe /f

>oh really your browser isn't working?
>did you put in a ticket?
>it looks like you were on pandora again, that seems to be the problem
>we'll reset your browser/give you a fresh deployment in a couple days, please make sure anything you want to save is on your network share / backed up
>repeat

>>59536263

not >>59536201 but you're talking out your ass. bandwidth is money and reduces other's productivity, slows email, slows intersite coms, VoIP etc. play solitare and I might have some sympathy but listen to "the network is sloooooowww!!" while people watch youtube and something in your head snaps

>>59536240
You realize that this is a losing battle right?
If OP wins, then the IT guy gets replaced for someone better that will enforce harsher net access rules and policies, which in turn will be a return to square one, and that is if he were undetected by the previous IT guy.

If OP loses, he'll get his lazy ass fired

>>59536312
yeah at this point I'm aiming for giving OP just enough rope

>>59535849
i t g e t s b i g g e r w h e n i p u l l o n i t

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>>59535727
Stop working and becomes NEET.

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>>59536312
>>59536338

maybe they left us alone cause are HR and they are afraid.

Don't you guys think i should leverage some of my power?! Im in a good position here.

Usually people that get caught are afraid that tech hands the case over to HR but i am fucking HR.

To the tech fags here:

Name some of the worst things that could happen to you on your job?

>>59536274
>Honestly i could start a conspiracy so big i'd get them all out and just hire new incompetent IT fags from /g/ that have no clue what they are doing and i can shitpost again.
>I could turn their life into hell with constant performance meetings, budgeting shit and what not. Get Finance in and we all gang up on IT lol.
>Not sure if its worth the effort and im not that much of a psychopath but it could be a fun game to get into tbqh.
MY SIDES
Delusions of grandeur much?
if you were capable of doing that you would be doing it already, instead of spewing your deluded plans to us.

lets assume for argument's sake that ypur plan finds a posotive outcome.
>put incompetent schmuk in IT
>get owned by, say, a ransomeware attack
>everybody runs like headless chickens
>IT guy cant do shit, gets fired
>hey! remember Mark? he was capable, who hired the fucker that let this shitstorm happemed?

It's not your network. It's his. It's perfectly legal you complete asshole. Do your job. This is a major act of disrespect toward your boss. You're obviously wasting his time and money by not working when you should be. Smarten up.

>>59536403

>if you were capable of doing that you would be doing it already, instead of spewing your deluded plans to us.

why do you assume that im a fucking psychopath who likes to get into petty corporate mindgames immediately?

im a human being and i dont want to crack down on people for doing their job properly

>>59536418

i do my work though and got a raise every year since i started

>>59536428
well then if you're gonna jack it to chinese cartoons do it in your car during lunch and disconnect from the company wifi.

Use an ssh tunnel

>>59536443
your browser needs to route dns through the tunnel though.
firefox:
about:config
network.proxy.socks_remote_dns;true

chrome (another reason to hate this shitty browser)
https://www.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/network-stack/socks-proxy

>>59535848
Get phone or your own hotspot my friend. It just werks.

>>59535727
There's an easy solution to this problem

Setup a VPN at home and connect to it from work. A capable IT guy know your using a VPN but will see nothing but encrypted traffic beyond that.

>>59536428
>called your bluff
>I-I-I was just kidding
yeah right.

Lets put it in other terms. Someone already mentioned that some of the boards in here are NSFW, and whether you liked or not, 4chan have a certain reputation.

If someone catches wind that an employee is an active 4chan user and content hosted in 4chan is being in your network / saved on a company hard disk, this could be interpreted as a PR liability.

If some kind of cyberattack (virus outbreak, ransomware, DDOS) is unleashed at your company guess which user will be at the top of the shitlist.

>>59535727
you should've set up linux VM with VPN connection to your house on bridged connection (public wifi in your company?)
If you just browse the internet through your normal native browser you're a cuck and you should kys immediately

>>59535848
marry me, I'll spend your money

>>59535867
I bet you never worked in a corporation
If you did all you had to do you can just relax and browse /g/, nobody gives a shit as long as your work is done nicely.
But yeah, it mostly applies to work in IT. If you work in another market sector you should kys, kek

>>59536472
So then the admin blocks access to the VPN and knows he's trying to hide his traffic so he can fuck around at work and waste the company's time. I'd block standard VPN access in a heartbeat. That would get him fired. OP just needs to do his job and stop going on a website that contains pornography at work. How retarded are you?

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>>59536513

yeah well like i said. We actually make the decisions about who gets fired and who doesn't. Its not that im on bad terms with my boss or the rest of the team. We are really close actually.

I assume the tech fags wanted to show off at the start of the year and proposed this initiative for no reason and honestly it probably annoys everyone but ofc they have to go through with the process.

I still feel really safe actually. Now that i realized that i can fire back i feel better.

Im still in this "fresh grad" mindset. I never really got out of it but i have some experience now and im not a student anymore who gets beaten around.

I-i-m a big guy now.

>>59536525

post ass

>>59536536
Normal employer doesn't give a fuck what you do if your work is done.

>>59535727
>gets caught browsing 4chan
>goes to 4chan to report that
yeah, right, nobody is this stupid

>>59536561
normal employers aren't like that at all, actually. they want you doing nothing but work on company time. if you're finishing your work in under 40 hours a week, they want to find that out so they can give you more work.

This is why normies that want to slack usually do it by stretching out two hours of work into eight, instead of just doing two hours of work and then chilling. It's why people put so much effort into looking busy.

>>59536574

>there is only 1 timezone

>>59536472
because I'm not the man in the middle who installed my certs on your work PC.

http://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/SslBump

>riiiiiight

>>59535727
>Not using a portable browser with a setup VPN on it, for maximum privacy.

I am not sure how legal your shit is, but I do browse 4chan at work, on Firefox with a SPAC-configured VPN. All my browsing is encrypted and nobody gets to intrude on my privacy.

>>59536578
>they want to find that out so they can give you more work.
but this is stupid, you know.
This kills alignment of employees and lowers morales.

But well, I work in IT master race, so I can actually play games from steam on my work laptop, play on xbox/ps4 available for everyone, watch movies, stream gaymes from my home and NOBODY EVER gives a shit as long as my work is done.

>>59535848
>I work in HR
Then you should know if employees apparently can't find work to do then they aren't needed.

>>59536615
I can also work 4 out of 5 days remotely from my house and report only once a day for status.
Of course not mentioning the phone which has to be on and I have to be available, but nobody called me since like a year.

So, how does it feel to not work in IT? Do you enjoy being a wagecuck slave?

>>59536536
So this IT person that is too lazy to block 4chan will instead sniff traffic, use their ESP to determine exactly what is going on over an encrypted, non-standard, home VPN connection, then will take it a step further by blacklisting an IP in an effort to penalize one user of a personal VPN?

I doubt that

>>59536623

we have over 10k employees my dude across multiple continents.

It rarely ever happens that someone gets fired for "not working". Its usually down to performance which mean that he didnt do anything he just couldn't do it the "right way". Sure its interconnected bullshit but there are a LOT OF people who don't do anything at all and get paid a lot.

This is normal. One day you will find a job too and realize that everyones just chilling in an office.

>>59536655
more like OP was not doing his work properly so his boss asked IT dept for his browsing history.
You do your job nicely and then chill, no other way around it.

>>59536615
>>59536632

the r9k NEET fantasy squad is at it again

>>59536674
Lol kid, I'm RIGHT NOW working from my house.
I don't know if this is normal in the US or not, but here where I live IT companies are very desperate to get any employees at all, so they offer these sweet conditions.
Just think about it. If I'm 100% available and my work is done flawlessly then what's the point of me traveling 100kms to the company hq just to do the remote job for client anyway?
Just find a job, you'll understand what I'm talking about

>>59536673
Yeah and they had his browsing history because he wasn't using a VPN to begin with. I've been down the same road at my work, although even more petty. It was over youtube. Not a word about it since I setup the VPN at home

>>59536537
>We actually make the decisions about who gets fired and who doesn't.
It's simple then, just vote not to fire yourself and then no one can get rid of you.

>>59536696
it's usually much simpler than using VPN.
If you were given a laptop you can just bridge vm nic with public access wifi (for guests, I mean)

>>59535727
Tell him you only went to the safe for work boards so it's okay.

>>59536696
>tfw employer remotely making screenshots of your desktop
;_;

>>59535727
You say you don't know what to do with your money. How about a 4g tablet and a keyboard case? I got a similar talking to last year. I just stopped browsing at work.

>>59536201

Can IT see what you post, pictures you expand etc. or just what pages you go to?

If in your contract it stated anywhere that they will monitor browsing activity on equipment belonging to the company then they very much can.

Browse from your phone?

>>59535848
>i work in HR

you could consider killing yourself for being the detritus of the business world.

>>59536814
If it's HTTPS, they would have to install a certificate on your browser to do this. Over regular HTTP, it's fully visible. 4chan doesn't force HTTPS. Over HTTPS all they see is the domain name and the encrypted data. say you visit https:// boards.4chan.org / g / they don't see the / g / part. Just encrypted data. Again, if it's a work PC and IT really wants to monitor everything, I'd assume they've installed a certificate in the web browser.

>>59536884
they probably got altiris installed on all client machines. No need to play with certificates if you can install any software on the computer.

>>59536906
True, but as an admin I'd do both.

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>>59536752

yeah but its so fucking obvious when i pull all of this out lmao

we have offices of 4 and can see each others desks

>>59536855

how come there is so much hostility on this board against HR departments?

>>59536855
>>59536201
>>59536075
>>59535848
>reddit spacing
Go back to your shitty plebbit site, faggots. Youre not welcome here.

>>59535727
Being as dumb as you is illegal
K Y S
Y
S

>>59536929

we do this to piss off phone posters like you

2k,4k and 8k desktop display master race users reached a gentlemens agreement a while ago and piss off all low res and phone posters.

Its hilarious when we watch them screech and call it reddit spacing when they are the problem themselves.

>>59535865
Fucking this. Been in guns most of my life thanks to having the world's greatest dad. Can confirm you will spend money like you're throwing it in a fucking hole

>>59536942
>we do this to piss off phone posters like you
How the fuck does this affect phone users? Stop with excuses and go back.

>>59535727
Get a hobby. Get into music or something outdoors... get into cars. just do something

>>59535727
>Is this even legal?
Yes. You have no reasonable expectation of privacy at work, with the exception of the bathroom.

>>59536366
Don't fall into a power trip, dog. I know it sounds appealing and I've done it. Just don't push the issue and use ur position to climb the corporate ladder, not attack IT guys.

>>59536107
You're a dipshit and an idiot
If i were in your position i would:
1. Browse from phone
2. Befriend IT
3. Save bucket loads of money
4. Quit and tour the world

Always befriend IT, I'm in IT myself and notice that i go that extra mile and turn a blind eye for colleagues that are friendly to me

>>59536923
Ask how it's any different than reading a book?
Either you sit there doing nothing, or you get an audiobook/phone/tablet

>>59535727
it seems to be a common misconception nowadays that 4chan is an illegal website. I dont know why.

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>mfw work at state college
>browse 4chan every day (try to use phone for /pol/)
>whole badselfeater timeline, helped dox paul combetta with work computer
>talk shit on /g/, browse sweet components on newegg, interesting computer articles like delidding + better TIM
>IT guy friendlier than usual next time I see him

>>59536578
You confuse normal employers and normie emloyers.

>>59536884
there are also appliances (specialized computer equipment) that can man in the middle you so they can see everything that transits in the corporate network.

The bigger the company, bigger odds that they have this kind of hardware.

>>59537042
You can only wander, am I right?

you have /ptg/ threads that can provide basic concepts on torrenting and they discuss which tracker has what and how to beg to enter

You have threads in which employees are proactively asking how to circumvent limitations in their company provided computers

and lets not even stick our noses in other boards content

>I swear you boss, I only post at /g/ to get counseling on how to make my work more efficiently and on /adv/ to hone my empathy skills
>Y-y-y-y-you cant make omelettes without breaking some eggs boss!!

>>59537165
it's called free speech. gtfo of america

>>59535958
Get into cars and racing

>>59537185
It's called employee code of conduct, which you agreed to. Gtfo of contractual obligations.
Alternatively, get so useful/powerful nobody will touch you.

>>59537185
MY SIDES

I know you wanted to troll, but at least you made me laugh.

here's your complimentary (You)

>>59536201
lol. i just bring in my personal laptop and use that for personal browsing and work is for work. its that simple

>>59537380
that kind of fly if your management is either extremely relaxed or the dont have a clue of what that could imply in its security.

its not that simple, it shows that you hadnt read much of the thread, but hey, good for you

>frogposter
you deserver to get fired honestly

>>59536201
>IT guy here. Dont fuck with us.
why are IT cucks so insecure? isn't getting pain a ton to do work a monkey could do enough?

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I would fire you on the spot and say it is because Holy Stallman wanted it.

>>59537523

>IT
>getting paid a ton

where? only good sdevs get paid big time ... the rest gets fucked

>>59535848
>i work in HR
oh man what is wrong with you?

Maybe do your fucking work?

Your employer isn't there to give you free money. If you're on 4chan, you're not doing your job.

If you find yourself with a lot of spare time, tell your supervisor and let him assign more tasks to you.

Parasites.

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>>59537594

what do you mean by that?

what should be wrong with me?

Just use mobile broadband on a personal laptop/tablet/phone you retarded cuck.

>>59536138
Kek

>>59537608
>instead of going for your throat, i want information instead..

Explain the mindset of HR to me...

Right now im a retailcuck trying to get a job in IT (support) because that shit interests me...
I got no degree...

How fucked am i?

What would catch the HR eye/interest?

>>59537597

>being this much of a good goyim

If I couldn't shitpost a little between tasks at work I would lose my fucking mind

>>59535727
Why would you use a companies computer for anything other than work? I'm at work right now browsing on MY phone, and they can't say shit because if have nothing to do at that time i can do what i like.

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>>59537690

well thats simple my friend. You overthink this.

You aren't fucked at all. My corporation actually wouldn't hire you at all but that isn't because the people in HR personally hate you but because the company laid down policies and everyone has to stick to it. Its stupid because im sure we are leaving a lot of talent behind for no reason at all.

It is also a matter of equality unironically because once you start hiring people with degrees and give them the same starting salary for example they'd feel cheated when some non degree fuck gets hired without a degree and gets paid the same.

This is on a basic level for most positions but every company is different and has a different HR approach.

Since you are simply looking for an entry-level job just make sure that you made up for the lack of experiencing by acquiring some proof that you know what you are talking about. For example you could write a blog about things related to IT Support, get some free certifications (google them). edX, udacity, MIT OpenCours work.

Show passion for technology. If you can truly fix computers, be nice to users aka employees inside the company and do all the things required on the job description (at least most of them). Go for it. Apply.

Companies that reject you outright because you don't meet some basic qualifications aren't for you. Look further. There are so many of them out there. Never lose hope. Never give up.

Its not always HR that is the problem but im obviously biased and i rejected people out of spite before. We are human beings.

>>59536083
Assume that the computer has keyloggers installed and takes screenshots regularly.

Tor won't help and even put your computer on the radar immediately, because ransomware and other malware is using it to phone home.

>>59537789
Guess I responded to the wrong post

>>59535727
Fucking frogposter being dumb again. Use your phone, you retard. Browsing 4chan on a company PC is almost equivalent to browsing porn. Get some common sense.

>>59537690
>>59537769
Whenever you see something like this, it's ass-covering. Why does a company, or its HR department, have a policy where those without a degree need not apply? Because the degree gives them something to point to if they hire a guy, and he turns out to be a moron. "But he had this degree, that was obviously grounds for us to think he knew what he was doing!", they can then say. The same logic holds for previous work experience.

>>59537769
ive sent like over 20 CV's out all WITH motivation letters...

This alone pretty much wasted like 10h of my life... so far all of the candidation times have ended and i havent even gotten a rejection reply....

Im fucking depressed m8..

>>59535848
>1st world problems
fucking faggots

>>59537825
Its just, im young and i really want to bust my ass getting smarter in IT at the same time working aswell.

Killing 2 birds with 1 stone..

But i know this wont happen.... EVER

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>>59536164
>be sysadmin
>get draconian NDA and corporate Internet-use contract
>set up own backdoor out

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>>59537825

there is no real reason for it and people know its dumb. Its just that many companies are still owned by old fashion decision makers who can't let go and the way degrees are handed out for free these days just devalues degrees even further.

Itll become less of a factor in the future but you have to put in work in other ways. Personal projects etc which you can add to your CV.

>>59537845

>20 applications
>1 hour

you are doing it wrong. 30 min per application isn't enough. Trying to find a job is your job. If you complain about working for 10 hours by yourself. Why should anybody hire you?

Research the company my dude. Glassdoor, forums etc. You will get an idea about who they actually hire and who they don't and what the process is.

>>59537855

what has that to do with anything?

>>59535727
Three words: Acceptable Use Policy. You are a nigger and should get fired for using company asset to shitpost.

t. Network Security guy

yes it's legal. change jobs now, it's only a matter of time until you get fired.

next time dont be so fucking stupid and do your shitposting on your own personal devices.

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>>59537893

>But i know this wont happen.... EVER

it won't because of your defeatist attitude. You could be anybody but you choose to be someone who doesn't believe in himself. If you don't believe in yourself why should others?

Get your shit together anon.

I might be an entitled faggot who had a relatively easy life but you don't demand a doctor who had cancer before and survived it before you get yourself some cancer treatment or do you?

>>59537594
I think you mean woman. Only women work in HR.

>>59535848
Learn

>>59537755
>Why would you use a companies computer for anything other than work?
Comfort?
Enjoy getting an eye cancer from browsing 15 pages on your phone.

>>59535727
why the fuck don't you use private tabs?

>>59535727

(you) should keep blogging about how unfair your employer is on 4chan and any other social media sites you are on. Probably update every hour or so, people need to know about this shit.

Suggest ((you)) also send a strongly-worded letter to trump about how your freedoms are being infringed upon. He knows a lot about those wire tapps and stuff, so your case will probably be of interest to them.

>>59538000
not a defeatist attitude, just demoralized.

I dont take rejection that well..
.... in this case they didnt even bother replying....

>>59535727
In the US it is legal for your boss to monitor everything that is done on company computers, phones, mail, all that shit is his. I know of a store owner who would sit at her office in a remote location listening to the audio feed in real time from the store, creepiest thing I seen was someone walk in asking to buy something being told they didn't have it but could order it and then the phone rings it's the store owner wanting to talk with this lady, real shady 1984 shit. Consider yourself lucky monitoring your browser history is all he does, for all you know he could have a VNC server on the computer and see exactly what you do all day, I worked at a place that did that.

You couldn't bring your own laptop hooked up to your phone or just your phone for that shit? You treat any company computer or phone for its intended purpose and keep any and all private shit out of it, even if it is looking at buzzfeed all day, no work to do? Don't touch it.

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>>59538075

learn how to deal with rejection. It happens to everyone all the fucking time in all aspects of life. Jobs, family, friends, dating.

Deal with it. Why care about a company that doesn't apply?

Don't fall for the meme where they made you believe that they have the power of you. The relationship goes both ways. They want work from you and you want money for that work. Its all there is to it.

You work has value to them and their money has value to you. Its not just them being in charge here.

Its pretty obvious when you have to deal with some faggot who is desperate and would take literally ANY job under the sun. Those people freak companies out just like women get freaked out by desperate guys who'd fuck a tree with a hole if it had a female name.

Heads up friendo. Only apply for companies you are comfortable working for, stand behind the product and what they do and they must be nice or else you won't move a finger for them. If everyone would do that collectively the world would be a better place.

>>59538122

*reply

>>59538122
Thanks.

IT guys at my work browse 4chan in their downtime and i've been friends with them for years so I can't get in trouble with them, it's only my cuck boss that has a fit everytime i go on 4chan, discord etc. i should move into IT.

>>59535727

Uaah, this has been my nightmare for years.

I would probably say something like "/g/ helps me giving inspiration about programming, new ideas and I need to be up-to-date" or "it helps me relaxing and there fore becoming a better programmer".

But they have no right to ask you "what are you doing with your life", that's cocky. If they don't let you browse the internet, so be it. But they are hypocrites, because everybody relaxes every now and then. Some days you have 120% power and achieve a lot of things, some days you just can't be productive, that's normal. IMHO they should only care about your results, not about what you do to achieve them. A good chef is not a control freak, but someone who gives inspiration.

So maybe open only normie sites (online news, mail) like the normies do. They'll accept that. Or get a different job.

>>59538162

you are in IT already. Why don't you talk to the sys admin fags who monitor your traffic? don't you know them?

>>59535727
lol this tech guy is really a fag for snitching. You should wait for him after work and smash his face.

>>59538122
Most retard reply in the thread. And OPs predicament was already retarded. But (You) managed to top that.

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>>59538289

but im OP and simply gave advice to someone in need.

What exactly is retarded about it? Are you one of these commies who think corporations have power over you and exploit your ass?

A somewhat challenging entry level IT job isn't the first job someone actually thinks about when he tries to make money for food.

You can go to McDonald's or into retail or construction etc if you are so desperate in need of money.

If you want an entry level IT job you can take your time, prepare yourself properly and find a company worth working for. Its that simple.

>>59535849
I'm upset that at least two people didn't realize this is a joke

>>59535848
Get a VPN you idiot. If you're earning that kind of money, there's no reason not to:

https://deals.ghacks.net/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&query=vpn&sort=best_sellers

Your boss and IT guy can't do shit unless they're literally screen-watching you. If you suspect they're screen-watching you, then I recommend stay off 4chan at work for a few weeks, then casually announce you're leaving, and by then have had applied for a few new jobs.

>>59535849
Daddy taught us not to be ashamed of our dicks

>>59538359
you'll be even more upset when you realize this board is full of underage kids who pretend to be adults.
And you sit here and try to reason with them...

>>59538354
Dumb frog poster

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>>59535848

>Luxury problems: the life

>>59537380
Same shit nigga
Also, use a VPN for Christ's sake OP

I browse /g/ all the time. I frequently get good advice from /dpt/ and /wdg/. Why should a company care if I go on 4chan? As long as I get my work done

>>59538944

well just think about it from an employees perspective

what if you build yourself a nice company and suddenly its full of 4chan browsing autist. Would you be happy about it?

Wouldnt it leave a bad taste in your mouth knowing that you have to rely on weeb shis, former neets and shitposters to keep your company alive?

Just say you were doing marketing research.

This place is filled with marketers, shills and surveyors doing their quantative research.

>>59539066

You can't really escape the influence of 4chings. Pretty sure a huge chunk of botnet owners and script kiddies got their start here and have been plaguing google and facebook with their bots for almost a decade now.

>>59535727
Why not use smartphone for it? You're really idiot.

Use VPN

>>59539072
this just say you're one of the thousands of paid amd marketers on this board

>>59539072
>>59539155

why do people believe that 4chan is a place to go to advertise?

4chan in general is struggling to attract advertisers cause everyone here hates ads and doesnt have any money and does not convert from an ad ever.

if you want to make money you go on facebook, youtube or reddit.

t. marketer who placed ads on 4chan cause i felt bad about this shit hole of a company

Retard, not browsing over lte on your phone at work. U deserved this pleb

>coworker gets a visit from hr and it about streaming NFL games during worktime (he has a subscription so not illegal)
>he is silent the whole time and just says "I'll keep it down in the future"
>immediately starts streaming nfl again when they leave
>"I'm one of the best money maker this company has. Those dumbasses don't have power to fire me unless I break the law"
Opened my eyes to how much influence you have over back office cucks decisions when you are the one making money.

>>59539168

Because autists who sit on neet bucks have plenty of time to spread that cancer everywere else online. It's called viral advertising.

Advertising in general is like throwing money in the wind with a brand logo stamped on it in hopes that three times as much comes back.

>>59539192

that is true for sure. Some people are so good and make a company a shit ton of shekels. Its hard to keep them actually.

Look at Jeff Dean and his pajeet friend. Google had to invent a position for these 2. Senior Fellow. Lol.

I mean its an extreme case but they'd rather drop billions on these guys than lose them.

>>59539207

>Advertising in general is like throwing money in the wind with a brand logo stamped on it in hopes that three times as much comes back.

not anymore. The botnets are gods work. You can target so well these days you can pretty much expect a positive ROI. If you don't its not the fault of the ad its the targeting thats off.

God bless the botnet and facebook normies.

>>59539210

It's just generally cheaper to buy a 4chan pass and repost the same thread than to hire a botnet.

>>59539225

meh

>>59535727
Boot a GNU+Linux live usb on the work computer and use a vpn/tor.

If you take your won notebook to work the first step is unnecessary.

You need GNU+Linux because otherwise the tech gay could install a monitoring software on your machine.

>>59536075
>>>59535727 (OP) (OP)
Did you copy and paste this?

>>59536201
>IT guy here. Dont fuck with us.
says the fat, four eyed fuck who haven't touched a female in over a decade.

Use your own network. Its not like the building is blocking LTE signals or anything.

> History
JUST USE INCOGNITO FFS

>>59536693
Fucking hell, where do you live that IT companies are desperate for people?

>tfw i'm the tech guy boss

>>59537120
He knows

>>59536201
>IT guy here. Dont fuck with us.
Sysadmin here for 3 years. I don't give a fuck, i have astonishing amount of hard work so i really can't monitor your network except some blocklist / vpn / scaning all your mail trafic. You can watch porn, becouse guess what i have to again fix database/vmware./ poo in the sap
He is just frustrated fagot.

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>>59539782

>>59539858
>>>59536693
>Fucking hell, where do you live that IT companies are desperate for people?

He lives in NEET County

just browse 4chan and ask them to fire you, so you can sue/get nice leave package.

You don't have to win lawsuit, just some idea and cost of lawyers will bring them to tears.

>>59535848
So this is why women are demanding more jobs like this and more cash. You guys don't do shit all day. You know other sectors in the workforce ask their bossman what they need done next since you're finished with work. You're just riding the clock.

>>59535727
Are you doing your job correctly? If so, then why should they give a fuck. Clearly they are just projecting for power, if you get fired, don't hesitate so sue them.

>>59535848
lucky fucker

>>59539124
This.

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>40k a year entry level tech job
>everybody else fucks off on ebay and faceberg all day
>literally all day
>I do all the work
>volunteer to do extra work
>wow man glad we found you you are a valuable addition!
>never fuck about on the internet at all
>get called in
>listen man its not working out...

Back to below the poverty line it is...

>>59540154
Should have been a normie

>>59540154

you sound delusional

>IT at a solicitors
>only me and the IT manager on the team
>he doesn't care what I do
>we don't monitor anything
>browse chan 80%+ of the day
>am doing it right now

I hate work even when it's this easy. If I actually had to work hard I'd probably off myself instead of just thinking about it.

>>59539066
i personally know several people who browse here (or used to) that are neither weebs nor former neets

>>59536201
>IT guy here. Dont fuck with us.
holy shit the fucking fedora of this post

>>59539954
You might be as dumb as OP. He's at a place of employment where he probably signed an employee handbook stating that he won't use a company computer for non-company activities, especially while he's on the clock making money. That's a contract and violating is obvious grounds for discipline or firing at the company's discretion.

>Clearly they are just projecting for power
Or you know, just doing their jobs to make sure their employees are being productive.

Fucking OP, you work in HR. You should know better. I can't believe you haven't been fired yet already.

>>59535727
Just browse on your phone.

>>59540597
>being a wage cuck
Why do you defend greedy business owners? Those "people" don't care about you at all. You probably think you can get a raise just by working hard, wrong! It's up to you to take legal action to get what you deserve.

>>59536201
hello reddít

>>59535727
Sounds like a toxic work environment but there's nothing you can do about it except switch jobs.

>>59535727
>tfw reading this while watching Mad Men on my work compy

>>59535727
You're a retard if you didn't clear your browsing history

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Don't be a wagecuck, get neetbux and be your own boss and then you can get paid to sit around shitposting on here.

>>59540973
>he thinks this is how the it guy found out
Never change /g/

>>59535727
Just tether your own personal laptop to your phone internet and browse away.

Or remote desktop to your computer at home and use that.

>>59540973
>he's clearing browsing history by hand
>not deleting on exit or using incognito mode to not remember history

>>59536245
*teleports behind u*
*deletes ur computer*

HEH NOTHIN PERSONNEL KID

>>59535727
>Why don't they just block 4chan outright?

If it's anything like our place, maybe they're downsizing? Here, they'll do anything they can to get rid of people without having to resort to redundancies (which are expensive and bad for morale). Basically they'll collect dirt on people, usually it's a collection of shit like "John said you were rude to him once on the 13th of November last year", "we noticed this job took x days to do when we think it should've taken x-5". But web browsing habits are a really easy trap.

Basically, why lock the rope away when they can let you hang yourself with it? If they don't want to employ you any more, they'll do the latter.

Apply for other jobs ASAP. You're fucked once you're on a performance improvement plan.

Next time use an encrypted VM tethered to your phone, or if you don't think they're monitoring other ports, VPN. Even Opera's will do.

Question to IT guys that browse 4chan at work: who watches the watcher?

>>59541481
If you're lucky enough to be the only IT guy, probably no one - but if a manager suspects something (a lot of sudden minimising going on) then it seems possible that they'd get an external IT company to come in at the weekend and sneak something in and hope you don't notice (who checks their PC for keyloggers and checks all the networking from PC to WAN for transparent traffic monitoring stuff every single day?)

I'm with one other IT guy and know that he's a) not very good at this kind of thing and b) does his fair share of personal browsing himself. It's not 100% risk free though!

>>59535867
Actually the reason for "SFW" boards is to avoid discussion getting excessively derailed by porn posters.

4chan browsing was never meant to be literally "safe for work", even the blue boards.

>>59539858
Poland

I would've gone apeshit and quit

>>59536929
Not any of those guys, but I've typed like that on here for years and never heard it called Reddit spacing. It's literally just paragraphs. Did you go to school?

>>59540718
I own my own business so I can see things from the employer's standpoint. OP is being a retarded leech and should do a better job of faking like he's working if he doesn't want to get fired. You can't take legal action against your place of employment if you've violated your employment agreement and you get terminated for cause and it's all documented properly.

>>59541875
>t. redditor in damage control mode

>>59541875
You have to go back.

>>59535727
>not using vpn
Its like you wanted to be caught

>>59543279
hes a motherfucking genius rich white male though

>I browse 4chin at work
>people who actually do shit in IT at work saw me browse 4chin
>i don't phone browse on cellular like normal person in work
>watafak guise they said i in trouble is this even legal?!?!?!? :((
>i maek $65,000 a year for doing hardly anything and somehow get promoted

I don't know what to say. You're just unbelievably stupid.

as far as I am concerned if it is not blocked on the network its ok for me to use