Reminder that Ryzen is one of the worst value CPUs you could

>>59506741

>cost per FPS
>pcgamer
>gaming

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>>59506750
It's not just gaming, Ryzen sucks at nearly everything, getting beta by Intel processors that cost hundreds less

>>59506774

>Muh i3 based rig is supercomputer because passmark says so.

>>59506838
Umm that's Photoshop

>500$ cpu comptes with the intels offering that costs 1050$
>shills on 4chin compare it to a much much higher clocked 4core gayming cpu
>all recent reviews shows it pretty fucking close to the 7700k in gayming and crushing it in Adobe.
>min fps is always close to its max, so less stutter compared to the 7700k.
>shills still call it a bad cpu.

Enjoy your shitty quad cores. heck i can even bet some of you faggots dont even have the 7700k.

so please, go kys yourself.

>>59506866
/thread
/thread

>>59506741
>even suggesting an overpriced dual core in 2017
garbage
>>59506774
muh 65 milliseconds

why didn't anyone put a i7 6900k in there? I mean, the 1800x competes against it, it would be REALLY interesting to see it's "cost per fps" :^)

>>59506866
this

You can get Pentium 4 basically for free, so it's the best choice.

>>59506741
by that logic then we all should be running i3's, 8gb of ram, with 1050 ti's. everything else is pure absolute garbage.

>>59506741
> 7700K
Hello where is 6800K

>>59506741
for games

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>>59506866
>o-o-only compare my CPU to the ones I say you can compare it to!

>>59506741
This image is so dumb, it is value = price / fps wich means literally nothing to anybody that uses a computer for gaming and wants a good CPU.

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>>59506968
Sadly it's not just games

Ryzen is shit at nearly everything

>>59506978
Wow! i7 7700k is a wink faster than ryzen, AyyMDed is dead.

>>59506988
It's way worse than that.

The 7700k is 25% faster and it costs $160 less.

>>59507007
Wowsers, instead of 110 fps, I get 130! Meanwhile, if anything is running in the background I get stutters out the ass, and all my programs run slower, but that 20 fps is really worth it!

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>>59507043
>Meanwhile, if anything is running in the background

You mean like streaming while playing a game at the same time?

Oh wait...

>>59507007

I can't even tell if this is serious or not.

A part of me wants to believe that this is a serious comparison for you. And that a difference of .2 seconds is a legitimate take down of AMD by intel.

>>59507061
I can't even tell if this is serious or not.

You do realize the Intel CPU is 25% faster and costs over one hundred dollars less.

>>59507070
In which world?

>>59507109
You might want to actually read the graphs in this thread.

>>59506741
>>59506774
>>59506978
Add the 6900K in it as well. Goddamn shills.

>>59507141
t. AMD shill

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>>59507060
>oh yeah, we have this extremely singlethreaded game with streaming!
>ignore the fact that the 7700k takes a much larger performance impact than all the other processors!
>cores never matter! neva eva!
Also, why the fuck do the average FPS and 99th percentile for the 6950k increase while streaming?

>>59507195
and the 5960x

>>59507195
>worse performance is better

AMDtard logic at its finest

>>59506978
>>59506774

hhahahaha samefag shill holy shit
how much is intel paying you?

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>cost per fps

>>59507305
t. AMD shill

>>59506741
according to this graph you should take an i3 and stick with it

>>59507334
wouldn't expect a different response from an idiot like you

>33 posts
>18 posters

OP can you stop samefagging ?

>>59506774
>techpowerup
SHILLL!!l!11

>>59506741
>secretly, OP is a fag
Can you compare the 1800X with CPUs of similar performance please such as the 6900K?

>fps
>>>/trash/
FPS as a measurement is shit because it's an inverse function which makes it misleading especially when the fps number isn't even stated.
Anything that measures in fps instead of sfp should be discarded.

>>59506988
>AyyMDed
>!,
>>59507007
>>59507043
>Wowsers
>,,!,,,!
punctuation?

If you are a shill read this:
novi orom mex


goodbye to you

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>>59506774
>>59506978
>Cherrypicking
How about you post the relative performance all benchmarks included?

>>59507361
>Less than 2 posts per person
>Anons having a conversation equals samefagging

How does it feel to breathe through your mouth at all times?

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>>59506866

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>>59506866
HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME

>>59506741
If I OC my ryzen will the price increase?
I just realized! Holy fuck, I'm having my doubts now. I should buy the intel CPU and underclock it to save money! haha AMD more like I AM DONE.

*kaching
[1 shekel have been deposited to your account]

>>59506741
Intel fags are still butthurt?

>>59506741

You are comparing a van to a sports car. Sure, the sports car looks better performance wise until you need to move houses.

>>59506971

its not about that. its about reading the reviews properly.

will you get higher max fps on the 7700k? sure.

And the 1800x is a direct competitor to te 6900k, thats why i mention it. so stop being a fag please.

Now as i said, the min fps are much close to the max fps on the ryzen, and since it has double the cores and threads you can litteraly do more at the same time without stuttering which people are already reporting on the 7600/7700 cpus.

but im not recommending the 1800x, its a shitty buy compared to the king which is the 1700.

and on that note, getting the 7700k in 2017 when you can get the 1700 oc it, and have it perform within 5% of a 5ghz 7700k in gaming is pretty fucking impressive.

the only upside intel has right now is that the mini itx on z270 are fucking beasts, especially the z270i from Asus with dual m.2 4x.

but the 7700k is still shit since its tdp is lol and so are its temps.

>>59507427
So a 1700 on a cheap b350 with the included cooler and some good tim should be able to do 3.6 no sweat right? And at 3600Mhz with shit ram it will only be 5% behind an overclocked 7700k with an aftermarket cooler and a z chipset?

Man I was considering Raisin but it looks like it got royally btfo to the tune of 5%

even as a big gaymer id definitely opt for an overclocked 1700 over a 7700k at this point

more much utility

>>59506866
>kys yourself

>>59507504

1700 with a good mobo that has good vrms. i think most of the b350's have that.

and you wont need a beefy cooler like you do on the 7700k to have it clock to its max which should be around 4ghz. someone clocked one with an evo 212 and it was stable at 68c lol under load, and only 54c under gaming.

you need high speed ram tho, 3200mhz is a must with ryzen, and hopefully we can get even faster soon,

>>59507653
>i have been here all summer.

>be me
>be laptop gamer
>decide to buy decent PC from scratch because laptop can't VR
>heard about this amd thing and interested to build
>first time building a PC so i asked a friend of mine to build it for me and recommends his build
>sent me pcpartpicker pic and said it looks good
>spent whole weekend looking for best price
>gtx1080 and 7700K because he's team blue
>fan from his build not included because I got one on a raffle during CES
>hours of assembly
>after building it my friend used some tools to test it if it's "stable"
>temps around 102C and more when idle
>maybe it's poor ventilation plus it was hot that day
>decide to reassemble and see what's wrong
>turns out it's the fan he says
>next day, replace the fan with something even better
>no luck. 90C idle. looks to hot I said
>his build is 85C idle OC
>why?
>use the unstable PC to browse the net and find out the prob
>after a while cursor starts to lag
>suddenly screen becomes gibberish pink and blue violet
>'wtf'
>tried to unplug socket
>burned da whole thing
>mfw should've bought AMD
Is the warranty void? fuck I need a refund and gonna buy ryzen and replace this dead mobo.

>>59507666
sorry I just thought that retarded grammar is stupid so I pointed it out :3

>uses newfag meme to justify retardation

>>59507427
Umm you realize this is showing the $350 Intel processor beating the $500 AMD processor

Ryzen is so fucking garbage

>>59506741
Why didn't you add Intel's 8 cores to the list?
Don't bother answering, we know why.

>>59507712

kys yourself again.

>all these retards comparing the 1800x to the 7700k
>literally comparing a cpu that's meant to rival the 6900k to a gaming cpu

jesus christ go back to facebook

>>59507680

thermal paste?

also kys yourself.

>>59507653
>tfw anon found the memephrase

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7OAxYYaCyo
1800x with hairworks 8xAA
7700k hairworks disabled.

same fucking fps lol.

intel dead.

>>59507658
I was implying the Raisin 1700 with stock cooler, budget ram and B chipset could easily match the [email protected]/2133 in >>59507427

Only being slightly off pace in relative performance to a similarly priced intel cpu that requires an aftermarket cooler and a more expensive Z chipset. The TPU config had 3000mhz trident x ram as well adding to cost.

>can buy a ryzen and upgrade to top gpu for less than an i7

>>59507835
As of today the cheapest Ryzen 1440p gaming combo is 3% cheaper than the identical 7700k build. inb4 parts choices they were the cheapest possible options

Cabbage
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9Wx3vV
vs
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VrdRyf
Raisin

>>59507770
so true
*bump*

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>>59507770
>p-p-please don't compare my CPU to the better one!

>>59508147
This

And the 7700k is 20% faster

Ryzen is a horrible deal

>>59506774
>less than a 200ms difference between overclocked i7 7700K with fast memory and an 1800X at stock speeds with shit memory

>>59507744
umm you realize there's more chips coming in the ryzen family that will be cheaper

your shill is so fucking garbage

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>>59506741
>Gayman benchmarks

>>59506741
>cost per FPS
Oh my i am fucking dying, Ramesh.

>>59506750

fpbp

>>59506741
>>59506774
>>59506978
>>59507427
>No CPUs above 4 cores
Kek.

See >>59510649 and go back to >>>/v/

>>59506741
Kill yourself, shill.

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>>59507658
>you need high speed ram tho

tfw 7700K maxes out on gaymen

tfw on my 1700X I can run 30 gaymen and pornhub and leddit and 4chin and deadbeef and mpv and look at mlp all at the same time w/o breaking a sweat

>>59511014
Ryzen's Interconnect is tied to your system's memory speed.

>>59511014
>>59511196
CCX, I meant.

>>59510185
pure gaming rigs
>>59507427
Shows i7 @4800/3000 +5% overall vs R7 @3600/2133 cpu/ram
>>59510649
says 2% in winblows at what I'm guessing is stock clocks though.

its bretty gud

>>59506741
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Heres a question, why wasn't CCX compared to LCC or HCC by anyone?

>>59511342
because reviewers know very, very little about anything related to hardware and just know how to run a gayme or a benchmark program and complain about numbers.

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>>59506866
>min fps is always close to its max, so less stutter compared to the 7700k.
Every thread the amd shills try to push this

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>>59506866
So smoooth

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>>59506866
>more smooth

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>>59506741
>no X99 CPUs on that chart
>benching >4 core CPUs with gaymez

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>>59506866
So smooooooooth

>>59512744
>>59512758
>>59512776
>>59512805
DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS INTELL SHILL!
Do not trust any of the benchmarks and graphs on any other site, here is my review on Ryzen 7 and I am sure you can see it's superior to intel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7s-9RmCA8E

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>$320 R7 1700 can be OC'd to 4GHz with stock cooler
>competes with intel's $1,000+ i7-5960X OCd to 4.4GHz on some $300 aftermarket cooler
>winblows and AMD updates have dramatically improved gaymen performance significantly

>>59510527
>>59507744
or that there is nearly no binning between the 320 ryzen and 500$ one, so a 320 will hit 3.8-4.0 on its stock cooler, on a cheap motherboard, and have less heat issues then intel does even at stock.

>>59506951
because unless the sites got the 6900k for free that's a 1500$-2000$ investment you need to make for a cpu that no one seriously considered buying unless money is no object and they aren't looking at gaming benches for it anyway.

>>59507296
next to no performance hit for less money (1700 oc to 3.6 instead of a 1800) or much larger performance hit, and in games that are demanding, a larger performance hit that turns games to stuttering messes, on a cpu that costs in total significantly more than a 1700 as you need to buy an aftermarket cooler,

>>59507109
in the world where the 1700 doesn't exist and can easily oc on every cpu on the stock cooler to a 1800x

>>59507317
if all you are doing is gaming on an extreme budget, its not a horrific metric.

>>59513077
Look at the fps, the Intel is just plain faster.

When you buy Ryzen you pay more for less.

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>>59511210
>pure gaming rigs

>>59513401
>2d performance

Reality is that moar cores doesn't mean it is actually gud.

As AMD have stated, it all depends on the software developers.

I cannot see how they are gonna make software that will run shit on 4 cores but ultra fine with 8 cores and more.

Your wishful thinking is not reflecting the reality as of now.

And stop posting those few cherrypicked gayming.
Isn't it irony that AMD tards go on a rant about how gayming is totally unimportant, but then take out gayming benches that could support their arguments?

>>59512850
He's the hero /g/otham deserves

>>59512805
>>59512776
>>59512758
>>59512744
Kys yourself

>>59513401
>d-d-doesn't count!

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>>59514036
3D performance is even worse.

You are running out of excuses, retard.

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>>59513375
>When you buy Ryzen you pay more for less.
When you buy Intel you pay more for less raw power.
>B-B-BUT M-MY F-F-F-F-F-FPS
Nice stuttering, just like your CPU
There's more to a CPU than "muh fps"
Cuck shill. Stop sucking the jews cock goyim.

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>>59514141
>Goyims hardware
>no URL
I'll never run out of excuses :^)

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>>59514150
That's a lot of damage control there.

>>59514168
>not being able to spot falseflagging
Step your shill game up senpai

>http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-vs-intel-kaby-lake-gaming,4977-7.html

Even more benchmarks in which Ryzen gets destroyed.

>>59514255
>goyims hardware
>amd-ryzen-vs-intel-kaby-lake-gaming
>gaming
Just stop, you're aren't getting paid extra for this

>>59506741
>gaymen
grow up.

>>59514164
>tfw you're the one nigger with a 130 IQ

>>59514370
>>59514420

Real world working software shows the same.

The i7-7700k easily beats the 1800X.

Which is logical, because the software is optimized and compiled for the Intel CPUs, which have been the dominating CPU on the market for over a decade.

You are nothing but delusional twats with wishful thinking.

>>59514255
>2666 ram
Run those tests again with 3200+ ram and the performance gap in gaming will virtually disappear.

>>59514626
>oh hey AMD offers so much more value for its price, I swear!

>needs good expensive Motherboard
>needs super expensive high clocked ram

So that only to close the gap.

Ok dude, but Intel is the Jew here, clearly.

Let me tell you following.
Somebody who has considered an i7-7700k for purchase, will never have bought a shitty Broadwell-E CPU either.

>>59513375
Lets get one thing out of the way, the chart is fucking weird no matter what for the 8 and 10 core intels.

What we are looking at with the dota 2 obs is a motherboard that was on a far earlier bios, paired with ram that limited it, and likely, compared to the intel 8 cores, a game that loaded on multiple ccx'es

even then, this is THE worst case scenario as no other game gives nearly as bad of numbers, nearly all fall with in 10-17% of the 7700, while offering up 2-4 more cores then the game is using so background applications won't interfere with gameplay, and in games that are taking advantage of 8 cores well, mafia 3, it beating out even overclocked 7700's while its still at stock.

games up to now, likely wont be patched to take advantage of rysen unless they are benchmark games that want to still be used in benchmarks going forward, so here is the worst case scenario as of right now and pre motherboard sorting their shit out.

But on the topic of the obs, someone who looked into it called bullshit on the settings they used in obs for the stream as what they used would cause unbearable artifacting artificially inflating the 7700 numbers.

>>59506750
But even if you measured browser performance with a few tabs open (/g/'s only usage on PC), then it would be even worse. You're better off just going with the gaming performance.

>>59506974
Well, if you're not considering performance (intel wins) or bang for buck (intel wins again), what is your criteria for a CPU? How kawaii the marketing is?

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>>59515020
DELETE

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>>59506741
>cost per fps
Now I've seen it all

CAPTCHA: KEKMERE DRIVE

>>59514475
If it makes you feel any better you're still smarter than 80% of white people by this diagram

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>>59515020
Anything besides Jewtel

>>59514585
>Which is logical, because the software is optimized and compiled for the Intel CPUs, which have been the dominating CPU on the market for over a decade.
So then how do you suppose AMD overcomes the gap that is based of favoring Intel CPUs like you just mentiond?

>>59506741
>cost per FPS

Such scientific, much legit.

Probably tested minesweeper. Fucking shills.