Modern Youtube

>>59487355
you. stop watching youtube.

capitalism

The mentally retarded

>>59487355
>What killed youtube?
https://meaningness.com/geeks-mops-sociopaths

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>>59487443

Viral videos

love that lofi hip hop radio steam

>>59487355
If you look for garbage you'll find it.
I taught myself via youtube

>Calc 1, intro to proofs, and other mathematical odds and ends

>programming

>history via documentaries that nobody cares about anymore

There's good stuff on there anon, just not on the front page. Especially for CS where you can literally find a 50 video long playlist for just about anything you can think of.

>>59487597
thanks for letting us know youre gay

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>>59487355
The same thing that killed Justin TV

Ads

>>59487355
There was a thread like this one several years ago on /v/ around the time when Nintendo was getting on people's asses about LP'ing their games, we decided it was a combination of normies and large companies discovering the internet in 2011 during Occupy Wall Street

>>59487710
>all those times streaming anime on JustinTV with internet friends

Amazon buying Twitch and not seeing enough Minecraft videos on Justin to justify keeping it was what actually killed it. What's interesting is that after they killed Justin TV, a lot of what people used to use Justin TV for (art streams and podcasts) eventually got added to Twitch despite the latter supposedly only being about gaming.

>>59487619

This. Youtube is fine and has tons of amazing content.

Walk into any supermarket. What do you see? Garbage!
90% of the products are processed shit filled with starch and palm oil. Yet the remaining 10% are better quality food than anything most kings and emperors in history of mankind ever had access to.

Most people choose the garbage. But it doesn't mean that you have to! Just dig around, and you're sure to find something good.

>>59487773
Isn't Twitch expanding into more than just gaming now?

>>59487799
I guess it is now, but that wasn't the plan right after Justin TV was shut down, at least as far as I know. The Bob Ross streams might have been Twitch jumping the shark though.

>>59487773
I was the same, I enjoyed watching things other than gaming and I enjoyed the fact that streamers didn't need to give a shit about copyrighted music and products.
There may have been other factors that contributed to it's downfall, but I might be projecting ads and donations as the main cause because it's the one thing I despise most of all when I see someone's stream.

>>59487858
I wouldn't mind donations so much if they were used by actual content creators like artists or musicians, and not by vidya streamers pretending like they're doing labor when playing games for donations when in reality it's stupid people giving them money for nothing (with the exception of charity streams, of course). Hopefully camwhores will keep shitting up Twitch so that the streaming industry will collapse, with the only people left being the ones doing this for fun instead of for a profitable version of "make money from Google"

>>59487443
>>59487526
>tfw anime is now at the sociopath stage with Crunchyroll/Funimation shitting up the community

Only a matter of time before ganoo loonix falls into sociopaths' hands as well. In fact, with Microsoft's latest attempt at EEE with GNU/Linux, it might have already started.

And what it was about in the past?

>>59487355
I've been using youtube since like 2006 or something and I don't remember it being different in that regard

You did, you fucking millennial Drumpfag.

>>59488772
Were you born before 1984?

Bump Yourself

>>59487836
>>59487799
IRL is a a popular category on twitch, andy milonakis and ice possiden are very popular on frequently along with boobie streamers

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Everything is his fault

the short answer: normies

Advertising

>>59487412

This. It started well with passionate people making videos for other passionate people to watch. Then the ad shit started and jews started making clickbait shit just to earn money only.

Now there's only a handful of watchable channels amongst the sea of shit production companies making videos about the top 10 things you should not be giving a fuck about.

the greed for money ruins everything

in this case both the site and creators were guilty of it

Algorithm change. Many obscure """viral""" content always get on the front page.

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Is there a site where you can listen to Japanese songs other than youtube?
I usually download albums, but sometimes I put some playlist from there.

>>59493502
Without an account, of course

>>59487355
Human nature.

People want to be famous. People want to make money.

People want to worship celebrities. People want to consume entertainment media.

Remember when YouTube used to get shit on within 4chan in the early years?

There was a time when people would be called newfags for linking to YouTube. I think maybe 2008. Now /g/ has nostalgia for 'the good days of youtube'.

>>59487355
>Google part of US surveillance state
>in bed with the CIA
>[all the Wikileaks and pizza revelations here]
>Google owns YouTube
>runs it at a loss
>manipulates algorithms 24/7 to promote certain content and hide others

It's a propaganda machine and data-mining trap that leads directly to rogue elements of the US.

>Inb4 tinfoil hat

>>59487443
>we're on the stage on which crunchyroll sociopaths actually hired fanatics to sub and scanlate anime and manga while paying them peanuts and the goyim pay for the substandard trash they put out

>>59493557
Hello newfag.
Most of our viral memes of old were shared via YouTube.
Just go back.

>>59493561
>running YouTube at a loss
YouTube currently makes more money with ads than their search engine ever did.

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Videos have always been shit on the internet. In fact as soon as people started posting videos or images instead of text the internet started to enter into normie-ville.

>>59487355
>What killed youtube?
Money

>>59493765
That's crap.

It was seen as a site for ebaumsworld-tier vloggers and emos to post inane bullshit.

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>>59487355
Youtube feeds you what you watch. Watch better things.

>>59487443
This is a great read, and it puts the kind of understanding I think everyone has of their scenes into well written words.

Thanks anon.

>>59487355
>Why doesn't everything on the internet pertain to my interests!

Fuck off.

>>59493921
>watch better things
>anime synthesizer
you first

>>59493786
It does not actually make a profit though, and most of google's profit comes from its ad services, and not from the search engine.

>>59493921
This, youtube actually recommends me good videos. The reason OP sees so much bullshit is that he posted the "live now" section though.

>>59487673
t. edgelord

>>59487355
>What killed youtube?
Popularity.

Popularity literally kills everything.

>>59493527
>People want to be famous. People want to make money.
>People want to worship celebrities. People want to consume entertainment media.
Speak for yourself pleb.

>>59487443
>sociopaths

literally this. it was in motion long before video games took over youtube though.

almost every video in the past years
>LIKE MY VIDEO
>PLEASE SUBSCRIBE
why the fuck do people need so much validation? i have never liked a video or subscribed to a channel in 10 plus years.

>>59494528
It started turning a profit last year

>>59487355
yee

>>59494717
>Why do they need validation
SEO. Youtubers who want to make youtubux need to rank highly on searches, so they need likes and subscriptions. Otherwise no jew monies.

>>59493448
I used to dislike Patreon channels but honestly now I kind of support them.

It's more of a back-to-basic approach where you pay for what you want to watch (even if you don't pay) and it kind of makes sure the makers don't shill out (at least not as much) to appease to the latest turns and twists of the youtube recommendation algorithm because their backers request a specific kind of content, not one that's adapted to make it appear on the front page so 13 year olds click on them

>>59494818
or you can be like that cuck Linus and advertise something at the beginning and end of the video while shilling something else the whole time.

>>59487355
Hey. Jew here.
My father's job is to create a platform where humans can pile and do useless activities. Those humans must in turn make other humans interested in their activities making more poeple to pile up. Music, Dance, Youtube, Gaming, Anime, Social Gathering and others are my forefather's creation.
In this way I and my family can concentrate on studying Maths, Science and do useful actitivies.
My own job is to do R&D for a material which is found to be near perfect elastic.

See. You come here and try to educate people not to fall for this trap. That boils my blood.
You forefathers were dumb.
You don't know what I/We are capable of. I get information about you from 4chan's moderators.

If you fucking trying to educated more people one more time, you and your family chain will be made to disappear from this world. You know how we do that?
We have all of CIA, NSA, MOSSA.
I suggest you to start headphone general or chink thread next time.

I know who you are.
Dare me one more time.

>>59493833
the internet is still amazing
the web however...

>>59494871
Yo you shouldn't use youtube dude, it's a trap didn't you read OP?

>>59494818
I don't mind sponsored videos if
1. It's not the entire channel, Linus
2. It's actually quality content they would have made anyways
3. Properly disclosed

>>59494818
Patreon busking style models are definitely the way to go, especially because it can circumvent the irrationality of copyright.

I routinely pirate the shit of nip porn simulators, but when the author shows up in a thread where I'm posting the torrent links, and politely asks to spare some change on his enty in broken engrish, it sure guilt trips me to throw some bucks there.

That said, busking model still depends on common human decency of increasingly sparse middle class. Not sure about the survivability of that in the long term.

>>59493921
>Home page

Do people seriously use this?
I just make a bookmark for my subscriptions page.
Do they still not let you set it as the default page?

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>>59494805
Doesn't even have to be about the money, just thinking something is worthy of word-of-mouth advertising. Likes and subscriptions promote your videos over "Uncle Bob's backyard BBQ."

I have 1k view uploads that are higher quality versions of multi-million view ones. Without an influx of viewers and likes they'll never supplant the poor quality ones, though, because they come in on page 3 of a search. My account isn't monetized so it doesn't mean anything to me if they watch *mine*, I just want quality to rise to the top.
I have one video that has just recently managed to pass whatever bar Google sets. It just took it almost two years. Pic related as to the difference it makes.

>>59495216
Holy shit how does it feel like knowing that half a million people have seen something you created?


Back in the golden days of 2008 or so I uploaded several scenes from the Simpsons I meticulously ripped from my DVDs all on an account I have no access to anymore.

Most of them have been deleted due to copyright claims but 2 survived somehow, one at 10k views and one at ~200,000 views. Feels kind of cool even though I didn't create it myself. But 200,000 people watched something I exported in Windows Movie Maker.

>>59494871
Anon you should not really open this topic. You are young, playful, everything's easy for you. This is an another thing. It's not Snowden and not even secret services archives. Better not to get into that. Seriously, any of you would deeply regret. Close the thread and forget what was written here. I fully understand that this post incites additional interest, but I far the curious - stop. The rest will just not see it.

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>>59493921
there was a time when i wanted to only see vocaloid or MMD videos on youtube period, but they kept recommending normie crap and i couldn't get rid of it. now i watch normie crap and vocaloid crap.

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>>59493561
>data-mining trap
pic related

>>59495073
Youtube will find things for you you wouldn't find yourself. I love the home page.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS8SPYtD1Ds

>>59495276
It's stuff that I already know is popular, so the views just mean the videos have made it out of my backwater account.

>>59487355
alarmist bullshit not ground in reality

google builds recommendations around your viewing history. you're seeing nothing but gaming and reaction videos precisely because you watch nothing but those

>>59487355
People that wanted to live out of YouTube.

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quick post your recommended videos and judge others for theirs

>>59487355
are narcissistic society as a whole

>>59487355
The fuck are you on? That's the content that youtube is recommending to you because she knows you have shit taste.

I watch mostly top tier tutorials and lessons on varied topics such as music production or statistical analysis. I also watch a lot of historical content by professionals.

And of course I never miss those Brazilian waxing vids where you see a lot of hot girls getting their pussies and assholes clean.

Youtube is better than ever. There's something for literally everyone.

>>59495630
>infowars
How's the fight against the Lizard People takeover going?

>>59487355
General public damnit. Stop being snob nao.

>>59488096
Hi, I'm a mop. I would like to use GNU/Linux but not contribute in any way. I'm not here for donating to you guys, I just want to use this cute OS with a penguin as it will make me safe from the evils of Microsoft. It is "cool" to be safe from Windows 10, you know? I will suggest that you make Gentoo a bit more user friendly for me. Perhaps add a bunch of games I can play. We definitely need more of a controlled system so the hackers can't harm us. I also don't want to have to install updates manually, so could you make it so everything gets automatically updated? I do want to know about the updates though, don't just do it under the hood, so please give me an update screen so I know I am updating and can feel awesome about getting new features.

>>59494032
More like why doesn't ANYTHING on the internet pertain to my interests. Stop trying to destroy everything, mop.

>>59487355
>What killed youtube?
Neurotypicals.

>Jewgle killed youtube.
It was fucking great until Google bought it (because their own "google video" was a major flop) and turned it into the click-bait cesspool it is today

>>59494717
This. I create content on youtube, but never understood the whole "like and subscribe" thing. If the people like it enough, they will do it without you needing to beg for it. If they don't, does it really matter? Isn't what mattered that someone saw the content? It feels like more of the commercialism, "I will only do this because you want me to, not because I have enthusiasm in it". What happened to just wanting to make content for the fun of it? Now it is all about what can sell my popularity.

>>59487526
>have a good time and contribute as little as they reasonably can
Shit I'm part of the free software mops

>>59496459
Be proud to be a mop. We are the cancer that is killing everything. I for one refuse to give Patreon beggars a cent and instead hunt for the charitable acts of those who seek to make them starve. Works well.

>>59495797

>Youtube is better than ever. There's something for literally everyone.

This man gets it.

>Brazilian waxing vids where you see a lot of hot girls getting their pussies and assholes clean

Thank you for telling us about this.

>>59493561
Mixing Wikileaks and "pizza" should basically count as an attempt to discredit Wikileaks.

>>59494717
>why the fuck do people need so much validation?
That's just lame self-promotion by wannabe e-celeb college kids who can't find more creative and pleasant ways to self-promote. (Learn from the likes of LGR.) Most of these are more sociopaths-lite, i.e., they want to "do the YouTube thing" but lack even sociopath-level skills and definitely lack sociopath-level money-hungry dedication.

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>>59495276
Well, mine's not half a million but I did recently hit over 100k views on a video.

>how does it feel
I don't care very much about the views. I'm doing this because I want sustainable income from doing something I really enjoy doing. At the beginning I thought I'd be stoked to hit 1k, 10k, 100k, etc views on a video... Turns out those numbers don't mean a whole lot. I'm happy that I get to help people though. So far that's been the nicest thing, other than finally making more than 10 cents a day in revenue.

Maybe I'll feel different when I'm actually able to financially support myself doing this. Unfortunately, I'm also running a Kickstarter, so I barely have time to be shooting/editing/uploading videos.

>>59498155
How many subscribers do you have?

>>59487443

Now I understand why people on 4chan are so edgy to "newfags".

>>59498221
Around 2.3k right now. I'm just kicking myself because this stupid Kickstarter is falling flat and it's taking me away from my channel.

>>59487355
Monetization. Google

>>59487355
Wait, yours is bold too? I spend like, 2 fucking hours trying to fix that a few days ago before I gave up.

>>59487793
What a faggy analogy lol

>>59489251
Yes

When fred became the most subscribed channel i remember thinking wow this place has gone to shit. I still went there a lot until that evolution of dance vid was dethroned by a commercial music vid. I think it was the beibs in like 2012 idk

>>59498303
Newfags on discussion boards pose an even more immediate problem: they can degrade the quality of the discussion with inane comments straight away. Here is a good one about them:
>Somewhere in the vastness of the Internet, it is happening even now. It was once a well-kept garden of intelligent discussion, where knowledgeable and interested folk came, attracted by the high quality of speech they saw ongoing. But into this garden comes a fool, and the level of discussion drops a little—or more than a little, if the fool is very prolific in their posting. (It is worse if the fool is just articulate enough that the former inhabitants of the garden feel obliged to respond, and correct misapprehensions—for then the fool dominates conversations.)
>So the garden is tainted now, and it is less fun to play in; the old inhabitants, already invested there, will stay, but they are that much less likely to attract new blood. Or if there are new members, their quality also has gone down.
>Then another fool joins, and the two fools begin talking to each other, and at that point some of the old members, those with the highest standards and the best opportunities elsewhere, leave...
>I am old enough to remember the USENET that is forgotten, though I was very young. Unlike the first Internet that died so long ago in the Eternal September, in these days there is always some way to delete unwanted content. We can thank spam for that—so egregious that no one defends it, so prolific that no one can just ignore it, there must be a banhammer somewhere.
>But when the fools begin their invasion, some communities think themselves too good to use their banhammer for—gasp!—censorship.
http://lesswrong.com/lw/c1/wellkept_gardens_die_by_pacifism/

>>59487355
Stop looking at live section only you tunnel vision freak

>>59498411
Check the oven, wouldn't want those tendies to burn.

>>59487355
jews

>>59487355
I'm sure it was almost always like this.

>>59487443
Nice article, but it's unrelated. YouTube was never a sub-culture, it was just a platform for different subcultures to share content with each other.

>>59494717
they get paid more if they have more subscribers/followers/friends

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>>59496375
>If the people like it enough, they will do it without you needing to beg for it.
It doesn't take too many passive viewers to keep your video towards the bottom of search and off suggested videos. Youtube has to make that determination with very little information, since before a video is suggested it's going to have very few views. People don't just magically appear at your video. I'm pushing 9k subs yet most of my videos only have ~200 views. You have to cross a threshold, and then things start rolling.

>>59498707
(You)re so mad right now

>>59494717
My favorite is when they start their video begging for likes. I stop watching every time.

>>59499249
* see here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqJgwYSh4Co
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fTfJazqzuo


720p30 with horrendous blocking vs 720p60
Uploaded April 25th vs April 17th
1.9 million views vs 32k.

>>59487355
web 2.0

>>59495523

Wtf is this shit?

>search 3gp or equivalent old container format
>find yourself in wtf-country

>>59499844
NicoNico Cho Party 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_QS0sjg6YU

>>59494717
>have never liked a video
GEEZ, fucking leech

ive liked many a vid, u know, when youtube still had 1-5 starts ratings, probably all vids i voted were humor or informative stuff whgere the uploader voice or face isnt even included, i just voted them to do my part is increasing visibility for stuff i found worthy of watching, same reason always voted whenever i visited newgrounds kongregate, which worked perfectly for many years until masses of softhearted faggots started giving 4star review "for the effort" to any mspaint drawn vomit of a flash animation, provided the uploader stated it was their first or that they were learning and wanted peer opinions

>>59499981
you can search formats on jewtube?

>>59499981
http://astronaut.io/ (let that shit load)

Showed up late to try to fight the sacks of nostalgia shits.

Youtube content is superior to anything else before. So there are a bunch of meme celebrities. What is also there is knowledgeable calm people basically making their own homemade TV show. This hasn't happened in the history of the internet before, you would know this if you didn't spend the last two decades fighting everyone jerking off on IRC.

>>59494717
sounds like you just don't want to watch anything and are the typical bitter lonely pre suicidal fuck, have you considered not using the website and sticking to jerking off on IRC with other losers mentally stuck in 2003?

>>59493450
Youtube is operating at a loss retard.

>>59501408
why arent view numbers enough? its become overkill.

>>59501743
t. Minecraft letsplayer

>>59487355
Nothing killed it. The most popular content is the most popular because that's what normies want to see. It hasn't lost the functionality it had to be used for whatever it was you were using it for before, it just mostly serves other purposes now. What were you expecting would happen when something gets popular, anyway?

I only go to youtube if the search engine returns an usefull result in youtube. I don't enter to youtube's homepage since 2013. The thing is pure cancer

>>59498571
The problem is finding a good balance of moderation. Too little and you're overrun. Too much and it becomes a hugbox and the fun of defending your positions and winning is gone so the intelligent people leave.

>>59502235
I've never liked or subscribed to anything either, I don't even have a youtube account so I couldn't even if I wanted to.

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>>59487355

So is this what Terry does when he's not on templeos?

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>>59506085

>>59506111

I got the naughty Moses grim of a feather in my cap.
I got the wandering in life and no need of a map.

>>59487355
it was like that at it's inception. I was always amused that "youtubers" were a thing, I just used the site to watch old cartoon theme songs and toy commercials, use it how you want to. From the very beginning I remember them trying to build a "community" of "content creators" but the theme songs and people falling down are still there

>>59487412
>(((Capitalism)))
Fixed that for you

>>59493357
Jess is saving YouTube. He destroyed the brony community from the inside.

>>59494845
I didn't know Linis Torvalds did YouTube videos

>>59499249
You completely misunderstood anon's point of view

> Not having your subs as RSS feeds.
> Not making use of youtube-dl

>>59493502
are you retarded?

>>59493847
>implying faggots posting on 4chan were different to faggots posting on ebaumsworld

>>59487443
good stuff, thanks for sharing. the whole blog seems worth a read!

>>59488096
The kernel itself will be safe until Torvalds quits or dies. Parts of userland are already lost to sociopaths (see GNOME, RedHat).

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>>59487355
>What killed youtube?
moneytization

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>>59487355
Excuse me?

>>59498571
the eternal september meme is really dumb

in reality the users of the discussion forum are so bored of discussing x topic in such depth that they devolve into self aware irony, circlejerking, shitposting etc

internet forums designed around hobbies are really autistic when you think about it, no conversation is meant to last forever yet look at places like /vg/, when are those conversations meant to end?

imagine if you took a group of 10 people and put them in a room and told them they had to talk about x subject forever and if they stopped talking for more than 10 seconds at a time they would be killed, obviously after enough time they're going to start talking utter shite

"good discussion" is a fleeting thing and trying to create an environment that fosters it indefinitely tends to do more harm than good (look at a website like something awful or any internet forum that introduced (((better moderation))) to keep discussion quality high)

this isn't to say that newcomers can't degrade the quality of a discussion but the idea that all newcomers are exclusively dumb shitposters, or that the original quality posters aren't also capable of the same thing, is just dumb, eternal september meme is routed in this idea that if x had not happened then the quality of discussion would still be as high, in reality high quality discussion is just rare

>>59493502
go back to /a/ u faggot