/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

>>59485993
>>Gay Porn

I need a new keyboard for my T420. They are a whole lot cheaper in non US layout.

My question is, can I buy a foreign language keyboard and snap on US keys? As long as my comp is set to US it shouldn't make a difference right?

Ey, I'm unbanned.

Where can I find the non-s LVDS to eDP converters for the T420 1080p IPS mod? Are the gooks done producing them? Are there still 3rd party sellers?

>>59487075
No more fahm. Some gook forum is selling them but it will be hard to obtain. There was a guy selling them on the Lenovo forums but after the second batch he didn't want to do it anymore.

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5th for best ThinkPad

the screen of my new Thinkpad 11e, bought directly from Lenovo's website, is flickering
should I return it? what do

>>59487178
2nded, especially if it's a frankenpad.

>>59487293
You should return the entire laptop and learn that gook-no-vo's new shit (past **20 series) is worse than a rag smeared in piss left to rot for a couple of days.

Then get yourself a t520 or x220 with an ips display.

I'm looking to buy a 90w charger and a 9 cell for my x220.

How do I make sure i don't get jewed into buying """""compatible""""" shite at genuine price?

Are there any signs or other things that are dead giveaways?

>>59487128
FUUUUUUUU

so my only options for a large thinkpad with a good quality screen is:

T520
Problem: heavy as buckets of piss

T601f
Problem: heavy as buckets of shit

>>59487366
Nah it's really impossible to tell. 99% of the time the listing pic isn't even real anyway, so no point looking for signs of fakes.

>>59487423
you can put an IPS display on a T420

>>59487466
How can you do it without the adapter?

>>59487423
If you want more options there's always the W series which are even thicker T5*0s. Of course once you get to newer models all of them can get good screens if you don't mind the build quality or anything else.

Or like >>59487466 said, you can get an IPS screen from a particular alienware model that just drops straight in.

>>59487466
>>59487502
yeah this, there is an Alienware model that drops right in. just wont have HDMI out

>>59487535
>>59487502
WHAT IS THE MODEL I NEED THIS TO MAKE MY T420 COMPLETE

>>59487568
https://trello.com/b/5qGkw9So/baslqc

>switched from T430(9cell) to X1 Carbon for daily carry
It's like I'm hauling nothing at all!

The old guy still has its place on my desktop though.

>>59487568
I think its LP140WD2 but do your own research to be sure. Searching for "t420 alienware screen" should get you started.

>>59487600
Give me the alienware model not a link to a shit website.
>>59487644
Thank you, I will reveal my creation in a couple of months.

MUAHAHAHAHA

>>59487644
Wait a shit, I heard about this before, I thought this was a IPS but it is a TN, and its also not 1080p. Also its not a drop in, you need a modded extender cable. Fucking dumb niggers, know your shit.

>>59487466
>>59487502
>>59487600
see
>>59487711

>>59487711
Fug, I got mixed up and it isn't IPS, it just has colour reproduction and viewing angles that leave it just about as good as a fairly average IPS screen anyway. And it very well is drop-in in many cases or else you're just swapping an OEM part anyway - read up on this shit yourself before you go abusing people for spoonfeeding you.

>>59487814
its worse than all the other better than average thinkpad screens (x220 ips, t60 ips, t520 tn, t440 ips). I'm just going to go and buy the T520, I wont lug this laptop around much anyway so its alright.

Just don't bullshit me like that, you hyped that my dream laptop is still possible (t420 with 8gb ram, ivy bridge i7, 256 ssd + 1tb hdd in ultrabay, and most importantly, A FUCKING 1080p IPS DISPLAY.

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Just built my first official T61p LED driver.

>>59487903
What's that, does that allow the installation of the LED Boe-Hydis displays without modifying cables.

>>59487970
Yes.

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>>59487970
>>59488000
Er, allows putting LEDs in previously CCFL Boe/Hydis displays without any cable changes.

>>59488000
Do you have any links on how to acquire/build one? This means I don't have to send my LCD cable to some jew for him to mod it for $60.

>>59488042
oh, well cable mod it still is

>>59488053
what exactly are you trying to do? I offer many display mod parts, but not every possible possibility.

[Yeah, yeah, currently on five beers, sue me]

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Is ASUS PRO a good choice for a durable laptop?

>>59488078
I'm trying to build a t601f with a led boe-hydis HV150UX2-100, and a 1000mhz fsb p9700. Currently its just a parts list so no definitive plans.

>>59487178
ew 16:10 and not 4:3

>>59488237
Ah, OK.
No, I make stuff to convert old CCFL panels to LED, while improving color and contrast at the same time. Because *good* LEDs >>> CCFL. And I use nice LEDs direct from Nichia.
...Have you considered, eg, a QXGA panel with an LED upgrade? :-)

>>59488270
I can get you to 95% sRGB at 1000 nits....

>>59488677
Does it work for you? if yes then use it.

Don't listen to the memelords.

I am going to buy a third party batter for my x201. I have never bought a battery for a laptop before, How do I know what battery to buy?

>>59488237
i have a t601f with an led boe-hydis screen aswell. How did you do the 1066 FSB mod?

>>59488842
Just use a bit of common sense, avoid obvious shit like a 9-cell for less than $35 and you'll be fine.

>>59488880
What i mean is, how do I know if the battery is the right size for my laptop?

Not thinkpad related but does anybody owns an xps13 from 2016 running Linux?

The gentoo wiki says that the gentoo install was a pain in the ass in the first model. It is also the case on newer models?

The Arch wiki mentions that the content adaptive brightness cannot be disable but "there is a fix" on windows for the highest resolution model.
What is this fix? Do I run the patch on windows then can proceed on running Linux without this unwanted feature or the fix only works on windows?

I'm replacing my old x201 and the xps13 looks like a nice machine and the ideal choice for a little laptop since modern thinkpads do not worth the price anymore.

>>59488964
According to the Lenovo site the 47 is a 4-cell for the X200 and X201, 47+ is the 6-cell and 47++ is the 9-cell.

So check if the battery has a circle with "47", "47+" or "47++" according to which one you want to get.

Is there an official place where I can buy a LCD panel for a x201?

I want to have an "official" receipt. Amazon is OK.

I didn't find anything on the lenovo refurbished website.

any patrician standard models for FHD? 1366x768 is too small for what im doing (splitting screen vertically to read/take notes)

>>59489736
For FHD you need to choose
>a 15" model
>a **30 or earlier 14" model that you're willing to do some obscure mod to
>X1 Carbon
>Most of anything **40 series and above (maybe check something like the T440p for starters)
Otherwise you'll have to settle for 900p. Though for what it sounds like you're doing you could probably get by with it, I've managed that sort of stuff on 768p just fine.

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>>59487178
The X301 is more suited to being called bestpad, because the T60/p and T61/p have flaws that decrease their longevity unless you get them in unicorn configurations (NOS dGPU) which kind of removes the "easy to repair" and "easy to purchase" criteria and renders it the kind of device you have to put in a display case because they're ultimately irreplaceable. I'm saying this as someone who has a T60p 1600x1200 that they love sitting in a corner because the screen's got too many flaws and I don't know how to tighten the loose hinges.

For somebody who's doing anything that stresses the computer, the actual bestpad currently is an X230 or T530 but they have none of the unique combination of features that we hold dear in the X201s/X301/T61/T43p so fair enough.

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Anyone tried running windows 7 with kvm and linux as the host OS? How's the performance?

I just want to play a 15 year old mmo with windows 7 while having debian as the host OS

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help

>>59490417
EDID fail. bad cable, or mis-seated cable.

>>59490520
I just need a proper plist or dsdt for my w520 but I don't know where to start. It's fucking up because I followed the guide for the 1600x900 T420.

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Which mouse should I get for my laptop?

>>59490588
a new trackpoint cap

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>>59490638
But sometimes I need a mouse anon.
How are the lenovo ones?

Sup /tpg/
Looking at X250s right now.
Germoney prices are easily 100-200 Yuro over US recommended prices, would that be still worth it? Looking to replace my aged T61.

>>59490003
the standard uxga flexview is far from perfect. By todays standards its not a great screen. Its brightness sucks and gets worse over time. Ive upgraded mine to the boe hydis led panel and its far far better. Brightness is good even by modern standards.

>>59491130
What's your requirements? Personally can recommend Logitech's MX series. I owned and used the MX Performance and MX Master and both are some of the best ones I ever used. Can't say anything about the smaller MX Anywhere, but apparently people still swear by the MX Revolution years after it stopped production.

>>59491130
Logitech makes some nice wireless mice in all sizes.

Considering getting a new battery for my x230. I'm worried about this suspiciously cheap battery turning into a firework display once plugged in. Does it look safe /legit? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/9-Cell-battery-for-Lenovo-Thinkpad-X220-X220i-X220S-X230-X230i-42T4861-42T4862-/332063977474?hash=item4d508e3002:g:sTgAAOSw241YU5V~

>>59491803

I thought X230 only takes genuine batteries. You can't charge a chink one.

>>59491965
you can by flashing the same mod that lets you use the *20 keyboard iirc

>>59491803
I mean it's not an official battery if that's what you want to know. No way to know if it will work or not.

>>59490417
>macfaggot
serves you right

>>59492250
Nah I knew it wasn't genuine, was just curious if it would explode or not. Might take a risk on it and see what happens.

>>59492085
Is the flashing process difficult? Going to look into it.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/262583878292
too expensive for a 440p?

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>>59492404
>Is the flashing process difficult?
nah it's piss easy, anyone can do it

Is there a guide for flashing coreboot on a thinkpad with a ch341a flasher? I can only find raspberry pi tutorials.

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>>59492547
I keep finding more and more reasons to hold on to my X220

Why is the T460p so cheap compared to the actual T460 - I'm having a few hundred bucks of difference for models with the same / very similar hardware.

I want to get a T460p, it's new for 800 bucks. It's this one:

https://www.notebooksbilliger.de/lenovo+thinkpad+t460p+20fw000d/eqsqid/3b99ab3f-bbae-4cdc-a5c1-d88da6d7817f

is there anything bad on buying a p version?

>mfw i let you guys meme me into buying a X220 with two batteries and and a dock for 199 jewros
ubuntu or manjaro?

>>59492442
Some estimates I posted in an earlier thread for a t440p with similar specs were:

>Base spec T440p - ~$220
>FHD screen - $70
>i7-4700MQ - $130
>T450 trackpad - $25 (not that that one comes with this)

Add on a bit more for memory to get up to 8GB and you can expect to pay about $500 USD for it, maybe more depending on condition. If that difference seems about right for the EU cuck tax then it's reasonable, though you might find it's better value to buy one with lower specs and upgrade it accordingly.

>>59492943
>is there anything bad on buying a p version?
P models tend to be thicker the processors they come with trade battery life for performance a little. Of course it makes sense for them to cost more, but it might just be a case of the majority of base models being sold just being overpriced and thus over-representing the market since they're the ones that don't sell.

>>59492946
>manjaro
I'd personally take Antergos over it since it's easymode Arch like Manjaro, but without the unnecessary fuckery with graphics drivers and other shit, and without using different repos. I'm also no fan of Ubuntu just because of apt but plenty of others get by with it without it breaking over minor shit so don't let that deter you.. Otherwise it's just a case of what you want out of your distro.

>>59492547
why does it have black tape over the "x220" label?

>>59492946
>two batteries and a dock

why do people do this then complain about money?

>>59493153
NDA

>>59493134

Antergos is cool. I had it on my x200 before librebooting it and going full libretard.

Also, gives a good taste of arch. Is a good choice if you see yourself going full arch sometime

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What is the likely cheapest thinkpad at the moment. Just looking for a shit posting second laptop

>>59493255

X200
X61

>>59493134
thanks, i'm going to have a look on antergos. i already use ubunu as my daily driver on my desktop so i'm pretty familiar with it and it works just fine, but with the thinkpad i feel a little more adventurous since it's not my main machine.

>>59493210
i don't complain, it's actually a good deal i think.

>>59493246
In my case it was the other way around and I've started using it because I like Arch, but got sick of going through the install process every time I stupidly decide to swap hard drives between computers or anything of the sort. Though the base install is still sometimes worth it, I managed to get a thin client set up adequately with LXDE + MPV just on 2GB of internal flash memory.

>>59493255
For absolute cheapest, just try searching for "thinkpad" on ebay and your local craiglist or equivalent. Searching for "IBM" and "Lenovo" might be worth it as well on local sites, since most people have no idea what they're selling and make ambiguous listings, sometimes with very low prices if you're lucky. Though a lot of it is just
>5 year old thinkpad edge
>Wants 90% of what they paid for it originally
>They paid 30% more than the MSRP
>"i know i got selling as is no lowballers"

>>59493308
>>59493374
Cheers nigs

Price check
2 thinkpad x201 for 170$ shipped (4gb, 160gb hdd, batteries included)
okay deal?

>>59493499
ship one to me

Just got a new battery for my X220. I installed tlp and acpi_call. Can someone give me a basic gestalt on battery threshold. What does this mean and how should I use it to maintain my battery life?

what other laptops use the same panel as the x220/x230? wanna keep an eye out on ebay for any with cracked screens that i can put this spare tn into

>>59493531
tlp setcharge 60 80 BAT0

>>59493636
If I need my battery for say a long commute should I temporarily set the charge to 100% so I get a full charge before I leave?

>>59493134
Thanks for the breakdown
Seems quite high in all honest
You got a similar breakdown for an x250 with an i7?

Are there any thinkpads without the built-in webcams? I'm a paranoid person.

>>59493917
Literally pop off the bezel and undo the web cam plug. It's not even held on by screws or anything.

>>59493917

Use tape or physically sever connections, autist.

>>59493776
no, you already have 80% like 6 hours, how long is that fucking commute?

>>59493934
Oh ok thanks! Can you remove the plug completely?

>>59493917
A31p

Hey guys, I need a new laptop for uni (trusty mac died after 5 years). What would you guys recommend if I only need it to run matlab, word and porn?

>>59493947
I wasn't sure how long 80% on a new battery should last. I'll be on an 8 hour flight. I doubt I'll need the whole way. If I can 6 with 80% that's more than enough.

>>59493970
>2002, ThinkPad A31p, 1600x1200
>2013, ThinkPad T440, 1360x768

Really makes you think

>>59493989
a latitude E6440

wait, what kind of porn?

>>59493998
Just plug it in or are you flying with some shitty memeairline?

>>59493998
>I'll be on an 8 hour flight.
you can charge it a couple of times to 100% if you're rarely on a 8 hour flight, just don't charge it every day to 100%

>>59494013
Ayo hol up.
You can plug in on flights now? Last time I flew was maybe 3 years ago domestically. This will be international. If I can charge that'll be great.

>>59494023
what airline?

>>59493989
>>59494008

Eh, I feel like a thinkpad would be better 'cos its cheaper. Recommend me a thinkpad. Plus, Danish amateur MILF porn erryday

>>59494023
Depends, some have just usb, some have real power plugs

>>59494050
T540p

>>59493636
I ran this command but my i3 is reporting UNK at 60%. Did it stop charging?

>>59494189
with tp-smapi-kmp and acpi-call-kmp ?

weird

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>>59492704
x220 can have ivy bridge processor too. The only how can do this on the x220 is the i7-3612QE.But is too expensive now $300 https://portuguese.alibaba.com/product-detail/intel-i7-3612qe-6m-3-10-ghz-sr0nd-av8063801149203-e1-ivy-bridge-cpu-1326628620.html
and the bga upgrade is a kind difficulty so maybe i do this in the future.

>>59494292
Joao Barbosa what's wrong with a plain old 3420m? igp wise it's a huge improvement already and it's not like one absolutely needs 4cores with HT on his laptop

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>>59494370
>4cores
I Use VM's a lot, Joao Barbosa.

>>59494043
>>59494054
American Airlines

>>59494250
I looked away for a couple minutes and now it is back to charging. Trying to get my head around this. My last battery was messed up from overcharging.

>>59494409
why not get a $70 3520m then instead of that exotic 3612qe?

>>59494454
Do u see any 3520m in the Compatible Products?
https://ark.intel.com/products/52813/Mobile-Intel-QM67-Express-Chipset

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>>59494497
>x220
>Intel Mobile QM67 Express Chipset
>max 35W TDP
Put it all together and you'll get the same answer. Source.
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X220
https://ark.intel.com/products/52813/Mobile-Intel-QM67-Express-Chipset
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_i7_microprocessors

>>59494497
hence I asked "why". get a 2620M then.

>March is nearly over
Yoga 370 when?

>>59485993
>Gay Porn
You're mixing your OPs up with the Apple ones, anon. Get your shit together

>>59487502
W series are identical to the T5xx of the same generation

What are some good off-brand/chink batteries for my T430?
>>59485993
>Gay Porn
This isn't an apple general.

wasn't there a blog collecting thinkpad spotted in popular media?

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Hi, I feel this might be impossible but:

- Minimum 14" screen, 1600x900
- i5/i7
- 8GB RAM minimum, with space to upgrade to 16GB max
- Support for SSD, doesn't need to come with an HDD
- Dedicated GPU, doesn't matter AMD/nVidia
- Doesn't need Windows

and...

- As lightweight/slim as possible

Been looking at a lot of models but I can't pinpoint any that match all those specs. I guess one that I might be willing to exclude would be the dedi-GPU, but if I buy a unit it'll be a replacement for my current unit, so having a good GPU would be nice.

Otherwise, any other manufacturer's models that might fit? HP/Dell?

>>59495672
t420 + egpu setup

>>59495745
Looking for a dedi built-in... trying to a traditional laptop situation, so I can take it on the go or for travel.

>>59495760
T430 or W series then but it ain't "lightweight/slim as possible".

>>59495782
Yeah W series look good with built-in discrete GPUs, but heavy as fuck. I like the W520/530, the ones with Quadros look good... but very heavy.

The T430 looks good, but not the best GPU...

There's an X230T for 300€
>i5 version
>240gb SSD
>12gb of ram

Should i bite?

>>59495860
>Should i bite?
sure, for 250

I'm pretty sure I read in here once that theres a way to set your laptop to cycle the battery (Only charrge to a certain amount and then discharge to a certain amount)

How do i do this

I've currently got a Latitude e6420, but am thinking about upgrading to a new-ish thinkpad. Main gripe about the e6420 is the battery life (~5-6 hrs with manageable brightness and power saving settings), and a lesser gripe of not having usb 3.0 ports (t420 doesn't have the 3.0 ports, but the t440 does). I see pretty good deals on the t420 on craigslist in my area, but would the t440 be a good buy for the extra few hours of battery life (with the 72WHr secondary battery)? The added cost isn't really that much of a factor, but is there anything else I should consider when weighing my options between the t440 and t420?

>>59495978
T420 btw

my 2 1/2 year old lenovo e450's battery completely died yesterday.
its an internal battery so i had to take apart the laptop to remove it. still in love with this laptop

>>59495978
Why the fuck would you want to do that? Are you trying to intentionally destroy your battery?

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>>59487178
>widescreen
anon no

Anyone have an X62? Any good?

got new job
looking for some portable laptop
should i get the x220 or is the screen too shit? Can't find one with ips screen

>>59496988
i'm considering both x260 and macbook pro 13 inch atm, x220 hardware is bit outdated for me.

in case i buy a thinkpad, i don't wanna spend my ssd for nothing, got 120gb corsair sata3.

Are there any thinkpads that come with free hdd/ssd slot? don't wanna waste cd drive also.

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Sup Cunts.

Just bought a W530 on E-bay. Think I overpaid for it but can't do anything about that now, Came with Windows 7 and trouble is, It's bloating up 50gb of my already tiny (and only) 140gb SSD. Isn't there a lightweight version of Win7 you could strip the shit out of and really shrink the size of?

Can't really part with Windows because of Artfag programs. Just want more space s'all.

Any advice?

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>>59495978
>>59496018


what OS? in windows you can easily set this up in lelnovo power manager. pic related. you should avoid 100% discharge depth aka until the battery dies or the laptop shuts down. I personally got the best battery health results with 40-60, which means that while plugged in the battery discharges slowly (takes weeks) until 40% then charges back up to max 60%, and so on. you can also try with 60-80 so you have a good portability if you disconnect the charger. also the 'Automatically optimize for battery lifespan' usually means something like 0-90. it's good because you don't hit 100 that often but it's still not as good as above.

but like I said in a previous thread, this advice is for when you rarely unplug your laptop. if you're on the move all day everyday then charge it to whatever you want\need.

>>59496396
I was under the impression that if its on charge most of them time it would stop the battery getting fucked

>>59497655
Install win 10 pro and use the win 7 key.

You can't run away from it.
Win 7 is botnet already after you install latest updates.
Don't be a fag and use a modern os..

>>59497655
Fresh install of win7 ult will be fine, my T420 only has a 120gb SSD and im only using about 40gb and thats with a couple of games and movies on it

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>>59497655
>artfag

>>59497783
>Install win 10 pro and use the win 7 key.
They'll take it when they can pry it from my cold dead fingers. I just don't like the idea of 10. Doesn't it have borderline pop up adds now?
>>59497795
Little jealous actually.
>>59497840
Aww, Not fair. I'm not done with it yet. Would you like to see something else then?

Oh yeah I remember now! It was called Embedded Standard 7. Does anyone have any experience installing it? If anyone helps me out (and is willing to wait a long fucking time) a free drawing. Just because I wub yoo.

>>59497783
>Install win 10 pro and use the win 7 key.
can oem or SLP keys be used to update?

>>59498083
ofcourse

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So what do you guys do about your tracking-point having to 'settle' and drift off after prolonged use?

what trackpoint speed/sensitivity do you use /g/?

>>59498122

jjajeungna

>>59498122
never happened

>>59498214

Happens to me all the time, x220

>>59498228
settle and drift off what does that even mean?

>>59498122
I just watch it happen, I find it kinda calming

>>59498258

when you let go of the trackpoint, the cursor floats away for a few seconds from where you left it

>>59498301
The nub seems like it needs to recenter itself and drift in the opposite direction that you were pushing it for a second or two.

I was just wondering if there's a way to avoid it or not.

>>59498143
from midpoint, one click towards light touch. I'm still getting used to using it. I'm trying to keep my hands on home row keys, but find myself using the flaky trackpad.

>>59498301
>>59498332
idk I just use mine as a scrolling thingy

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New comfy Thinkpad Telegram group

https://t.me/thinkpadgeneral

>>59498143
extreme light touch

Which Skylake workstation should I get?

Zbook studio is nice

does a 9cell from a x200 work in a x220/x230?

>>59498476
Steer the fuck away from Zbook trust me. My enterprise and others have shittons of problems with it. HP really fucked up with quality assurance on these machines. Also after splitting the company a year ago, support and service has been laughably horrible terrible. Zbooks are expensive toys that either come DOA or break after less than a month. Do not buy!

>>59492547
I'm confused, I thought you didn't need any special hardware for a modded bios unless you want to remove the wireless card whitelist.

>finally got osx working
>trackpad works like shit, double tap doesn't work 50% of the time

Memed hard

Fuck those two hackintosh autists in the ass

>>59498659
kek

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>>59485993
You fags expect me to use one of these?

>>59498843
/tpg/ BTFO

>>59498597
So p50?

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>>59498843
Jesus Christ what kind of retards reply to that tweet

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>>59498843
/tpg/ BTFO
How will they ever recover?

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>>59498997
or P70

>wew lad

Is a T400 with T8400 cpu able to run Ubuntu ? I don't really want to use xfce...

>>59499162
I'd recommend anything but zbook g3s. Dells latitude has been getting some nice feedback. Other than that its the same ole Thinkpad W / P series. Do some research but please don't buy zbooks, I work with em on daily basis and they are not worth it. Maybe wait and check the new releases this year for enterprise models?

just got my first x220 and installes xubuntu on it. even it has just 4gb ram and a 160gb hdd my god this thing is fast as fuck! i guess i don't even have to upgrade it for the next year.

this machine is fetish fuel.

>>59499217
>160gb hdd
>fast as fuck

nigga,

>>59498843
B T F O
T
F
O

>>59497750
https://support.lenovo.com/ca/fr/solutions/hf003321

To use advanced battery features in Win10, you need to use Lenovo settings. It's a "universal app" you can install from the windows store. You can also download from my link and side-load with a powershell command. You need to install system interface foundation first.

The installer for the Lenovo System Interface Foundation must be downloaded from the Lenovo Support Web site (https://filedownload.lenovo.com/enm/sift/core/SystemInterfaceFoundation.exe).

From lenovo forums: https://support.lenovo.com/ca/fr/solutions/ht078208

Optimizing for lifespan (years) The main enemies of battery longevity are age, the number of charge cycles, amount of time at full charge, and high temperature. For maximum lifespan if you rarely use the battery, set Custom charge thresholds to start charging at 40% capacity and stop at 50%, and keep the ThinkPad cool. The thresholds can be adjusted in the Battery Maintenance settings of the Lenovo Power Manager. If you do use your battery somewhat frequently, set the start threshold at say 85% and stop at 90%. This will still give a good lifespan benefit over keeping it charged to 100%. The simplest way to optimize for battery lifespan is to select Automatic in the Power Manager Battery Maintenance settings, and let it manage your battery charge thresholds for you.

>>59498122

new keyboard

>>59490417
didn't even know the w520 was supported.

>>59499162
Pls no 17 inch it's too large for my anus

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>>59494292

Hey hey hey! how come we don't have think waifus??? Why don't we have thinkpad-tans?

I can think of a x200-tan, that is obsessed with freedom, a thicc X60, a x220t that can turn her head 180 degrees...

B-But unfortunately I can't draw such things... I-I can only do CAD...

>>59498843
BTFO

>>59499744
cough.
>>59497655

>>59495848
I don't think you'll be able to find a lightweight ThinkPad with a good GPU. Even the T470p has a shitty dGPU that's barely faster then the iGPU.

I'm running a T430 + eGPU setup, so far it's been working quite well. Definitely an improvement over the NVS 5400m.

>>59499810
that's not a drawing mate, that's just some exercise noob file from Lynda's Photoshop Fundamentals.

he's probably a deviantart/tumblr elite tho.

does anyone know where I would be able to get a lanyard to retain the pen for my x220t?

>>59497750
That's exactly what I was looking for, thanks and yeah i'm on windows 7

>>59497750
It's plugged in, in the bedroom 80% of the time but occasionally i sit downstairs with it for a few hours

>>59500051

B-But can he help us?

My current pc has 4 available ram slots and is only capable of dual channel. I already have 2 sticks of 4gb ddr3 installed. Would I be able to add another 2 sticks of 8gb ddr3?

How do x220s hold up with heat seeing as they mostly power an i5 2520m?

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speaking of X220, $450 for all these? Y/N?

>>59500799

Like, all of em??? I'm in!

Any fellow eurotard want to buy some Libreboot T400 Laptops? I've got some for 150€, with a new aftermarket battery included.

>>59500799
Decent deal.

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So... how does the Lenovo x220T compare to the x220?

They're basically the same price, and if I understand correctly, one converts into a laptop while the other doesn't. Wouldn't it make sense to get the x220T? You only seem to mention the x220. What am I missing here?

>>59498537
no, it won't fit.

>>59501043
220t is a tablet version. If you don't have use for it as a tablet, why bother?

Also the tablet swivel hinge thing tends to wear out on them, compared to the normal x220 hinges. If you need it for art or something better off to buy a nice wacom tablet.

>>59500965
lmao what a rip off, good luck.

>>59501215
But I do have use for it as a tablet, as in I'd like to be able to use my computer also as a tablet

>>59501274
Well, you are going to find pretty fast that using Windows in tablet mode kinda sucks. And your tablet hinge will probably break. But go ahead.

>>59501314
Just looking for a small laptop that I can use as my main PC and also as a tablet if I feel like reading in bed or w/e. I don't do gaming, video editing or any other heavy stuff, just work, listening to music, watching videos and checking the email

>>59501506
Problem with using it as a tablet in bed: it's heavy as shit compared to a Nexus or iPad. It's just not for that use case unfortunately

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I like my own farts

Is it smart to buy one of these (looking at dells mostly) for my mom's facebook machine? She buys shitboxes from wallmart and the hard drives constantly fail because she is rough with them and has a tick where she knocks hard on surfaces like desks and the open face of laptops while they are running.
I was thinking of buying the cheapest i series with an ssd of the screen size she's used to.

Is this a good idea? I just want something with build quality that will last as long as possible without spending a lot of money on powerful hardware that she doesn't need.

What specs do you guys look for in a business laptop?

>>59501667
sure, get a E6320

>>59502046
black and should smell like money

>>59485993
is it worth using the EPP to get myself a t460p?

>>59492547
Sorry, but to everyone who is seriously considering doing this, it's not worth it. The new keyboard is better than the old one in many regards, for example build quality. There's no point in doing this.

>>59485993
is it only t440 or later has ips panel? and that is when the panel connection switch from LVDS to eDP? Since I'm thinking of getting a t440 or later model. But the problem is their ips panel still suck at color accuracy. Is it possible to switch out the panel to a better one?

>>59488280
No I have not considered a QXGA because they are all TN, and I'd rather have a bit less screen res for better colors. I'm just going to go with the t520 instead because its close enough to the t60 ips and its cheaper (because I don't need to do any mods besides coreboot, which I already have everything for), and much faster.
>>59488844
here
forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=110620&start=30#p728624

Do you guys always go for genuine chargers or is chink knockoff good enough? I mean realistically speaking they are probably made at the same factory, but I don't want to fry 1000 machine over saving a tenner.

>>59501634
Which thinkpad is that?

>>59504580
T420

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I need a 14.1" SXGA screen for my T23 as its dying. Could I just use a SXGA screen from a different model like a T60?

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I have a W500 that I've been contemplating upgrading the CPU for
I already have an SSD, a 12 cell battery plus another 3 cell in the ultra bay, and a USB 3 card in the express port

It already has a T9400, I'm wondering would a T9800 be worth a $25 upgrade? The T9900 doesn't seem worth it for double the price

Also has anyone gotten quad cores working on these laptops?

Old ass pic

>>59504949
Get a P9700, almost the same performance of a t9900, yet runs at 10W less (25W).

>>59498659
I was thinking about going to OSX thanks for the warning

>>59504949
Quad cores have run in these laptops for a while, however you need a very lengthy and complicated process to get them working.

link: http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=110620&start=30#p728624

>>59505548
>>59504949
never mind, thats for the t60.

>>59505152
Hmm, might actually be worth looking into, thanks anon

>>59505548
>>59505558
Damn, almost got my hopes up

>>59505598
go research, maybe there is a similar mod for **00 series laptops

>>59490003

Why the X230/T530 intead of the X220/T520? Just curious. I'm more partial to them because I love muh classic thinkpad keyboard (I still like the new design, just not as much), but what else do you significantly gain from the 20s that are lacking in the 30s?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/361910189248
Randomly stumbled over this
Maybe one of you can make use of it

>>59502998
you dont have to do that to get the old style keyboard to work lel. Its just a few commands in a linux terminal

>>59505793
>Some damage to lid top where asset tag removed, slight damage to front right corner, non original battery - see photo's
lol nope

I'm getting a T430 with 4GB, hdd, i5 3210M and 1600x900. I lastly bought T410, what would be good price for this T430? Is 80€ suspiciously low?

>>59505869
The damage doesn't look that bad
And it's the i7 model, easily a hundred Yuro cheaper than anything comparable in yurop

>>59505944
Replacing the shitty chink battery will easily cost you that much.

>>59505789
Ivy bridge is just plainly better than Sandy, even if the differences aren't huge for most use cases it's still worth having if you're putting a large load on your computer. Especially if you're willing to go to the trouble of flashing a BIOS that allows non-OEM batteries and switching the keyboard (if you prefer the classic one) then you can get an Ivy bridge machine that's outright better.

Of course it's technically possible to get **20 series models to use Ivy bridge processors, but given the time and effort needed you're just as well off starting out with a **30 model where you get other minor shit like USB3.

>>59505917
Going off a quick check of German Ebay, the starting price for any T430 is double that, and you're getting the HD+ screen as well. So yes that's a very cheap price, though it doesn't mean there has to be something wrong with it. Just be prepared to check it over thoroughly and perhaps fuck around with returns if need be, though the same goes for anything second hand regardless of price.

Can a x230 motherboard be transplanted into a x220?

got a x220 with a 160gb hdd and want to install a msata ssd. whats the best way to transfer the os (xubuntu) from the hdd to the ssd? or should i just do a clean reinstall?

>>59507200
I'd be booting up a live USB and using dd from there.
If it's a fresh install you might as well just reinstall though, it'll be about as quick and transferring your files across will be easy from that point anyway.

>>59507200
SDD upgrades for retards:

This will only work if you have less data on the 160gb then the capacity of the msata
1. Install both disks into the machine
2. Download clonezilla live cd and burn it: clonezilla.org/downloads.php
3. Boot the shit
4. Go through the on screen instructions (easy for any non-nigger)
5. After cloning is done, remove the chicken shit 160gb HDD
6. ???
7. Profit

But wait, you get no profit because your running fucking xubuntu.
Nigger, get a real os like Gentoo, Temple OS, or even plain ubunut is better.
I suggest you just copy all you important files to a usb stick and make a fresh install,
but you know what they say, niggers never learn.

>>59506509
What would me max you would pay for one while keeping the thinkpad/price ratio good?

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Lenovo lists two different starting prices for this laptop, which am I to believe?
1/2

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>>59507300
2/2

>>59507306
Wait Wait Wait, I think this one is Australian.
Damn, I feel bad for those poor guys, even if they shitpost more than anyone else.

>>59507300
>>59507306
>>59492943
Copy pasta from previous thread:

T460 owner here,

>Build quality
Alright compared to most laptops today
but absolute shit compared to the older (pre t420) thinkpads.
I've dropped my t460 2 times already, once on the edge with the battery.
This made one of the battery holding switches pop out and have the battery be losely held in place, and the screen slightly bent outwards because of malformed hinges.
Second time I dropped was game over, I pulled on a headphone cable and the laptop fell face down from a table about waist height.
This caused both hinges to break off the laptop, and the screen to eventually fail.
Compare this to my t40 which I have thrown multiple times across the room in fits of rage and still works perfectly.
The new thinkpad durability is shit.
>Keyboard
Even though all the nig/g/ers here complain about the new keyboard being the worst thing about the new thinkpads,
its actually quite good, and I would say much better for typing than the old t40 keyboard.
The t460 keyboard has much more clicker and responsive than the t40 keyboard,
and the spaced out keys give me much less mis-typed words.
The only thing that is better on the pre-t420 keyboards are the layout,
which is very important because everyone on /g/ is a professional video editor
that uses millions of key-shortcuts that all use the home, end, insert, and delete buttons.
>Screen
T460 screen was superb, I have the model which had the 1080p IPS display.
Screen was bright, colors were great, and the resolution was sharp.
However, all this does not matter if the screen is not attached to the computer anymore from a fall off a table.
There are older thinkpads that have screens that are on par (x220 IPS display)
or even better (t60 Boe-Hydis AFFS display) than the newer thinkpads.

(Continued)

>>59507329
>Linux Support
Despite what everyone tells you, absolute shit.
Yeah, wifi drivers will work out of the box on even the most difficult of distros (Gentoo),
and graphics drivers too (no shit its intel HD graphics).
However, there are so many other fucking problems with linux on this shit.
The clit mouse is as hard as dehydrated shit to get working on.
You have to fuck around in the xorg.conf for a couple of hours with joystick variables to get the trackpoint to work.
And because of the oversized trackpad for nigger fingers, you have to disable it.
But guess what dipshit, even after you disable the trackpad,
if you put your palm on the trackpad while using the trackpoint like a normal person,
the trackpoint will zig zag like a shit headed fuck high on ASSSSSS.
So, you have to arch your hand like a fucking spider to use the trackpoint.

In short, the new thinkpad is as bad as /g/ers say on /tpg/, but not for the reasons they say.
Go get yourself a x220 or build yourself a t601f so you can be the most badass fucking shit in this thread,
and stay clear of the lenovo chinkshit chicken-shit bullshit.
Also by buying gook-no-vo's horseshit your supporting their new thinkpad design,
if every nig/g/er on this board stop buying this shit, lenovo might make a retro thinkpad to appease us and get our shekels again.

>>59497755
Yeah, that was like 20 years ago.

Why isn't the t520 in the recommended list, it has better cooling and a better display than the t420 yet is about the same size and retains all the t420's features.

>>59507259
thx, since the installation is fresh and the ssd will arrive within the next few days, i'm going to do a clean install and wipe the hdd.

>>59507354
>yet is about the same size
No.

>>59498228
Same, X220 as well. I just stop using it and at times it just drifts off into the sunset.

I'm pretty happy with the machine but the trackpoint is one of those memes I shouldn't have listened to. After weeks it hasn't gotten more comfortable to use than the first day and I've seen trackpads a lot more comfortable to use. Hell on Windows the trackpad on the X220 ain't so horrible either.

>>59507318
There was a point where the lelnovo Australia Tax was quite minimal, ~2012 right after they dropped from being triple the US price to about 10% more. Then it seems they went back up after Haslel

>>59507394
>1 inch more width and slightly thicker
>No.
Reasoning? Do you have it?

>>59507438
Almost a one pound heavier. Also, much shittier battery life. There is no reason to choose T520 over T420.

>>59507474
How is it shitier battery life when they have they have the exact same specs(with a T520 without nvidia gpu)?

>>59507474
>one pound heavier
lift faggot

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>>59507495
Because of the screen, among other things. Pic related. Top is from Lenovo's official specifications for T520, bottom is for T420.

>>59507542
>9-cell: 3.75 hours
>9-cell plus Slice battery: up to 3.75 hours
Lenovo spec on batteries is bullshit, its either to low or to high.
They probably tested a quadcore, not an i5, for that battery test.
A 1080p screen isn't that much more power, considering its also a TN, not a IPS.

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What's in the box /g/?

>>59507655
over 20 pounds of pussy and ass

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>>59507655
The suspense!

>>59507687
show your shit nigger

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>>59507655
What could it be?!

>>59507701
a miniature chalkboard

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Did I do good /g/?

Pls respond

>>59507721
Looks good to me

>>59507701
Didn't know they send dragondildos in black casing nowadays

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>>59507655
<3

>>59507721
No because anything past the **20 series (and to some extent *60 series), is lel,no-vo certified electronic gook shit.

>>59499372
Would 10 or 8.1 be better in this case?

>>59507738
had the same experience yesterday.

>>59507738
>AZERTY

Oh.

>>59507318
It's not quite as bad as it looks for Australians, we can get the same brand new models off of eBay for half of what Lenovo asks.

In 6 months they'll probably be doing deals every other week on them that actually make them competitive, since selling goods on a regular basis apparently doesn't fit within Lenovo's business model and they need to wait till anything's on the verge of replacement to sell to consumers.

>>59507794
I own a T510 and this is holy shit compared to it, had no idea it would be this nice.. Even came with an IPS screen even though the retarded seller said it wasn't.

>>59507802
Disappointed senpai? :-(

>>59507914
No, not disappointed, just curious.

>>59507973
Hard knock life being from Belgium.
I was gonna go for qwerty, but saw that most thinkpads in my region were all azerty, so I didn't bother.

>>59498659
werks for me

who the fuck uses the touchpad anyway, I disable that shit asap regardless of the OS

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>>59507738
>azerty

>>59498659
You have to edit some shit if you decide not to use the touchpad at all, which doesn't work well anyways.

Some FingerZ values on the voodoohdaps2trackpad file or something like that.

>>59508059
Works for me too, but the system is noticeably slower than anything else to be quite honest. I get that the micron C400 is a shit SSD but there's that delay I can't find on different systems. I keep it installed on that thing because it's still far simpler to do shit like connect to it through VNC but I'll admit this system doesn't make the thinkpad look like a fast tool to use.

>>59501175
thanks

>>59507914
im in love too with mine. friend got a spare 160GB mSATA SSD left and additional 4GB RAM are in the mail.

F U T U R E P R O O F

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just bought this in "Grade B" condition, how much did i dun goofed ?

>>59508650
>4GB
>not even SSD
Yeah, you dun pretty goofed.

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>>59508650
>"Grade B" condition

>>59508813
How do you know that's not in working condition though?

>>59508813
>>59508851
>Grade B - Laptop is in Good Condition - Looks OK - Has Cosmetic Blemishes

>>59508960
>few small spots on the screen, barely noticeable when turned on
>battery holds a charge

>>59508786
b-but senpai i have a spare SSD and 4gigs is fine for shitposting.

>>59508813
grade B means slightly worn screen, wear and tear on the palmrest/trackpad and maybe a chipped corner or two.

>>59508813
put an SSD in it and sell it as a refurb on Ebay. Some vir/g/in is bound to buy it.

>>59509227
>tfw refurb laptop came in fucking pristine, but as I started typing the L key came off and I'm stuck with a keyboard with a different layout and a broken fucking key so I can't resell it without buying a new keyboard so people in my country don't bitch about it

Thank god I'm not planning to sell it but still fuck this

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That feel when you now spent $150 on an x230, $70 on an IPS panel,and 80 on an SSD and you could have gotten a Nintendo Switch instead. :(

>>59509261
I sorry to break it to you anon, but your laptop was not in pristine condition.

>>59509521
It was hella clean, but yeah, not exactly pristine. You should have seen the thing.

Guys, any great tips on how to use the dock without butchering the battery? I normally keep my t430 docked at the desk so it rarely gets moved and use an another laptop as a portable when away from the desk...
So far I've tried taking it out of the dock every now and then but its rather annoying as all the cables are plugged into the dock.

>>59509740
Set charging thresholds. If you don't need long battery life then it's healthiest to keep it around half charge, ie 40-60% cutoffs or so.

I need a new laptop for uni, basically just going to be taking notes and watching movies. What would you recommend, does 4gb/8gb matter for this? And SSD or HDD?

>>59509876
Look at the X220 and T420 as per the OP. Maybe also the **30 equivalents. Those are where the value and quality are right now.

>memory
It won't matter. It's piss easy to upgrade down the line anyway.

>SSD or HDD
SSD will be far better. Maybe you'll want extra space on the cheap, in which case HDD could make sense, but these things can take both anyway so it depends on how much you want to throw at it right from the start and which model you go with.

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>>59508650

I bought the W530 I am writing from from Luxnote.

They are a bit pricey but their laptop was good.

Mine was "Grade B" but was practically new in my hands.

The keyboard was treated somehow and coated with something that made it look brand new. This thing came off pretty soon, but the functionality of the keyboard was unaffected.

The touchpad sticker was replaced by them with a brand new one, so no problem there either.

One last thing, My W530 had a protective sticker covering all of the top lid (pic related). Not a problem. I decided to keep it, as it might be covering some serious flaws. It's not that ugly after all.


Would I buy from Luxnote Hannover again? FUCK YES!

I am considering buying another W530 for my brother: spreading the tried and true cult of ThinkPad(s) all through my family!

>>59485993

I'll be picking up an used X200s in a couple of hours...

Seller says the battery is dead and it's not going to work.

What other things should I check?

Are X220 batteries compatible with X200s ? I could use a spare one to check...

>>59510040
no offense but that sticker looks like shit

>>59510040
W530 is a shit machine.

>>59510064
>What other things should I check?
locked bios, keyboard, smell, display, usb ports, wifi

>Are X220 batteries compatible with X200s
no

>>59510124

It's okay to disagree.

I would have preferred a blank lid too but after all i don't mind it and it might be covering some serious scratch.

If I pull it off and there is a serious scratch i should either buy a clean lid or buy another sticker.

Either way I would be fucked. So i kept it.

>>59510135

Very comfy, if you ask me.

the only unfixable problem is that it's heavy as hell, but i knew what i was going to face.

keyboard is replaceable, and my i7-3720QM still beats the crap out of modern ultrabook-series i5s and i7s (all way up to 7th gen dual-core, ulv found in, for example, t460).

So yeah, this is a heavy machine, but it's quite future-proof.

>>59510225
>but it's quite future-proof
Until it breaks a year or two from now.

>>59500799
STOP HOARDING THE X220s AND GIVE THEM TO ME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>59500799
Crap, that'd be cool for a classroom.

>>59494292
How do I install this?

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>>59498122

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>>59498143
this

>>59510040
How was the battery on your laptop ? That is my main concern with this buy.

I can fix cosmetic wear with something like a wrap (like you did) or by putting in a palmrest and keyboard from a T520, and i plan to upgrade the monitor to that 1080p panel, but if the battery is borked it's going to cost without being an upgrade.

>>59511236
Not him, but it doesn't have a good battery. The big screen and i7 eat through even the 9-cell in no time.

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>>59510137

Thanks man, I am now writing from this basically new X200s, super comfy.

Not bad for 58€ :)

And now:
> install gentoo

>>59507779

10
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>>59485993
what do u think about adding cooling system into thinkpad dockstation? My x220 have high temps, so I'm thinking about improving it on dockstation(maybe some terraria like games when I'm at home

>>59513199
>8 and 8.1 are depreciated
kys

Convince me not to install OSX on my x220

>>59513714

half the features are broken. not worth it.

>>59508786
Meh, it's upgradable and Luxnote is one of the best ThinkPad shops in Europe.

>>59513730
According to the wiki the only thing broken is the SD card reader.

>>59513263
>high temps
Have you replaced the thermal paste?

>>59513714
Works fine if you don't need to use your laptop on the go. But it absolutely kills battery life so bad.

Question: What's a logical upgrade from the T420?

>>59513263

disasemble the cooler (or the whole laptop), clean the heatsink+fan. Remove old thermal paste, clean cpu and heatsink and re-aply new paste properly before reasembly.

I "solve" high temp problems this way all the fucking time. google howto properly apply thermal paste.

Does anyone have experience with refurb.io? Thinking about ordering a ThinkPad from them

>>59513764
>According to the wiki
real life =/= According to the wiki

>>59513714
YMMV, for me everything but the microsd reader works unlike what these anons said
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>>59485993
t60 vs x60?
might be able to buy a t60 for quite cheap,
should i wait for a x60?

>>59514378
t60 + t61 and do the frankensteinpad mod

>>59514378

Why so old ? the mod to get 1066Mhz fsb is pretty tedious... It even got DDR2 ...

>>59513911

T440s

Latitude E7450

>>59514415
they are quite cheap, and feeld good to have a non-backddoored cpu ...

>>59514403
thx ! will look into that

>>59514454

Flash coreboot to a T410, no backdoor.

>>59514496
don't core i's have backdoors?

>>59513803
new, arctic * paste and replaced by pro, but I think its caused by i7-2620m. I'm thinking about buying i5 motherboard. 80oC on terraria, 90-97 oC on compiling

>>59514557
disable turbo boost and\or HT

new thread

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>>59514624
>no /tpg/ - ThinkPad General in the subject

Delete it and try again anon.

>>59514544

The backdoor isn't in the cpu, it's in the intel ME (management engine). it's a binary blob in the bios.

Surprise, it's even in the t400 series and it's not a i's !!!!

ACTUAL NEW THREAD WITH FIXED OP:
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>>59514723
aie aie aie
yeah, i read here, that anything after core duo, is problematic

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>>59514557

replaced by a pro ?????

There is no way the heatsink is clean and thermal paste is good. Not with these temps.

>>59514748

it's a potential problem. potential.

Flashing coreboot is kinda hard but it can be done.

ACTUAL NEW THREAD

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>>59514765
dunno, but he Didn't give too much paste on cpu

Goodbye, thread.

>>59516031
nigger