/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

A friend of mine wants to trade his Thinkpad x240 for my old i5 4690k processor and my old z97 g43 - gaming motherboard.

I dont use that hardware anymore so its pretty much just laying around. Do you think it would be a good trade for me?

How much is the x240 worth used?

Will a t601f with Intel GMA x1300 handle 1080p30 video without stuttering?

>>59459903
Look on ebay etc for second hand models; Use that to get an idea of the value. Also, go over every inch of that thing to see if it has been dropped, damaged or if the internals have been cleaned recently.

>>59458241
>Reminder to check if you qualify for the battery recall: https://support.lenovo.com/nz/en/solutions/hf004122
>Go through the manual process, enter in the model number & sn in lower case with no -'s, and see if you qualify for a free replacement battery.
>Just did it for a battery from 2012, it isn't just new ones that qualify. Will they replace them for laptops purchased secondhand too? Also this info should be in the op.


>>59459696
>neato just got a new battery for free.


fuck

how do I jew this program to jew myself a new battery?

>>59459967
will this work for a old as fuck t40?

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>>59459903
>Do you think it would be a good trade for me?

fuck no, get a $5 case, a copuple of dumpster sata drives and a 15$ psu and you got yourself a powerful server.

>>59459971
no, only for 2010-2012 models. pic related.

>>59459967
Buy a broken ass laptop with battery from the time period of the recall? That would give you a good chance.

>>59459958

Well from what I can gather from ebay postings (buy it now, not auctions) they go for around 280 up to 300 usd)

The 4690k is worth like 140 to 145 usd, the motherboard is prolly worth around 65 usd tops, which puts us at like 210 or something etc.

I mean I dont have any use of my old PC components, and I kinda want a playaround laptop that I can run linux on and use as a general media/work machine etc.

ok so a followup question,
In your opinion, is the x240 a good machine in general? I mean the specifications on it looks pretty decent, and if I'm not wrong it has a IPS screen.

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>>59459967
>>59459999
nice get

>>59460019
Only real issue with the x240 (same problem as the t440) is the terrible touchpad/mouse buttons. It's just really bad, when you see/use it you will see why.

>>59459941
I think so, and on the remote chance it does not, look for the Broadcom Crystal HD BCM70015 (*not* BCM70012) card which you should get anyway because it would save you battery.

It also works on Linux. Check the Wikipedia page to instructions on how to disable downscaling to 1280x720 on Windows:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcom_Crystal_HD

>>59460065
How do i find if a motherboard has this card? All the FRU p/n numbers only point to 3 GFX cards: the 140m, 570m, and x1300.

>>59460065
>>59460101
Never mind, I'm high on ass, the Broadcom Crystal HD is a mPCIE card.

Anyone know where to get a good IPS for a x220 in the UK for decent money? also are third party batteries okay, any brand recommendations?

>>59460101
This card is not from IBM or Lenovo. You will not find one with an FRU code.

>>59460172
3rd party chinkshit chickenshit bullshit is never good shit because gooks shit too much. I once almost shit myself trying to setup a edishit wifi card, your 30 dollar gook batteries will fuck your computer in the ass.

What's the best optimised Windows OS for an X220? Gonna be dual booting and want the best battery life possible

>>59460329
Windows 2000, any windows made since then is ass.

>>59460329
Windows 7. I love Windows 8.1 for little devices but this laptop seems to have been manufactured just so you put Windows 7 on it.

>>59459869
Just a quick question:
On my X230 Linux will save whether or not I put the internal speakers on mute. For example, I put the speakers on mute, then plug in headphones and crank the volume up. When I unplug the headphones it goes back to mute. On Windows this doesn't work. Once I put the laptop on sleep with porn still playing which lead to a very embarassing situation the next day. Why is Windows so retarded? How can I fix this?

From the sellers page, which do you guys recommend? I'm using a MBP right now, but I just want something to be able to fuck around with linux and try it out for a while, but I also would like something that should I like linux be able to use as my main for a while until I can afford a new Thinkpad:

>Lenovo ThinkPad T420S 1600 x 900 i5-2540M 6GB Ram 320GB €375.00 NOW €290

>Lenovo ThinkPad T530 1600 x 900 Display i5-3320M 8GB Ram 128SSD € 395.00 NOW €350

>Lenovo ThinkPad T530 1600 x 900 Display i5-3320M 8GB Ram 320GB € 395.00 NOW €350

>Lenovo ThinkPad T430 i5-3320M 4GB Ram 320GB € 395.00 NOW €350

>Lenovo ThinkPad T430 i5-3320M 8GB Ram 180SSD € 495.00 NOW €450

>X1 Carbon i7-3667U 8GB Ram 180GB SSD 1600 x 900 Backlit Keyboard Awesome €750 NOW €650

>X230 i5 3320M 8GBRam 320GB HDD €375 Now €325

>>59460433
I should add that these are "ex-company laptops"

>>59460441
Still these prices are insane, even for Europe. Foro example, I paid 220€ for my X230 and that one was formerly used by a company and it had been professionally refurbished with a new keyboard and battery. It had only 4GB RAM though, but still. 325€ is almost criminal.

is there a way to make the x230 touchpad not suck absolute shit in regards to its tracking precision?

>>59460469
No, it's shit. Disable it. I for my part am still looking for a way to get rid of it altogether. If I ever buy a 3D printer, a trackpadless palmrest will be the first useful thing I print with it.

>>59460469
Rip it out and stick a glob of shit there, trackpads are for nigger fingers.

>>59459986

Well I am not looking for a laptop for server purposes.

>>59460485
>trackpads are for nigger fingers.

citation needed

>>59460600
nigga just keep that cpu and motherboard and turn them into a server, i wasnt talking about laptops.

also the X240 in exchange is alright too if it has a ips, also check for locked bios and stuff that might be broken.

>Girlfriend wants a new laptop for accounting and word processing
>try to get her a dankpad 420s
>anon it's so ugly and bland and not stylish!!!
>she buys an ideapad instead

Mfw waiting for lenovo malware to fuck her over.

>>59460602
Why do you think macintosh fagtops have such large trackpads? Its because apple knows the majority of its customers are niggers or at least have a nigger mentality. Niggers think like animals so they only can use simple tracking devices like trackpads, they are too dumb to understand joysticks so they can't use a white man's pointer device like a trackpoint or mouse.

>>59460632
>Mfw waiting for lenovo malware to fuck her over.

if it doesnt then the hinges will fall apart in six months

>>59460676
This.

t. T460 owner with a screen-less laptop

>>59460628

Well everything is fine with it EXCEPT (his words) "a little dark spot in the upper left corner"

I might have to check how bad this is before I decide to do a trade though. If it's just something minor I will probably trade.

>>59460632
Should have gotten her 1st gen X1 Carbon. The price keeps pummeling.

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>>59460602
>>59460647

its today bois, first ever notebook is arriving
anxious!!!

>>59460845
better be a a **20 series or earlier or you're a shit eating fuck high on gook battery gas

>>59460765
>if it's just something minor I will probably trade.

k but don't be a dumbass just necause you know him.

>>59460647
>simple tracking devices like trackpads

Trackpoints have one function.

Trackpads can have around 20. Which one is simpler?

>>59460792
She is concerned about the lack of warranty so she got the idea pad

>>59460845
whats in the goddamn box tpg?

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>>59461011
shit

>>59460957
A trackpad has the POSIBILITY of 20 functions, most of which are never used by the majority of users. In the one function that both devices are used in the majority of cases , moving the mouse, the trackpad is much simple because it maps one-on-one with the screen. This trackpad represents the screen, finger on trackpad represents mouse, move finger to move mouse, its simple enough for a nigger to understand. While with a trackpad its much more difficult to understand, the trackpoint in the origin where your mouse is, your rotate and tilt the axis of the point to move to mouse. Do you think a nigger can comprehend origins and axes?

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How do I know if the optic drive on my thinkpad is dying?
It used to be able to burn CD/DVD, but know it just throws an error, and sometimes I can't read any optic media.

>>59460980
But all t420's have a warranty, its called fucking a roll cage. Better than any chinkshit warranty which some gook in a call center will deny faster than you will shit through your pants in an indian restaurant.

>>59461084
Just buy a new optical drive you cheap nigger, you don't even need to unscrew your laptop to install it. Or better yet, replace it with a ultrabay drive bay with a 1tb shitter with your ripped dvds in there and stop being such a archaic nigger.

>>59461020
what, did the cat shit on it?
fucking catshit

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Why are all thinkpad users such trigger happy babies?

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>>59461168
>>59461020
>>59461011
>>59460882
>>59460845
so far so good, comfy as shit and it looks like its almost brand-new. also came with dockstation

>>59461110
Is there a specific model to get regarding the connection? I tried swapping it with another laptop optic drive but it didn't get recognized, even though it got power.
I'd get one but all the optic drives I could find are generic chink.

>replace it with a ultrabay drive bay
Already got one in the main HDD while I boot from the ExpressCard.
I need the optic drive for work related reasons, because the boss believe it's "safer" that way, and most of the documents are sent that way.

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>>59461298

are T520 good? i can get one for $200 AUD (bout $130 usd)

4GB RAM

INTEL SSD A2M160G2LE

DVD RW

Intel Core i7-2760QM CPU @ 2.40GHz

Windows 10 Pro installed

>>59461382
Yeah go for it it's very cheap for the i7 version

>>59461382
good deal but something's not right about the price.

make sure you get to see real pics and it's got an unlocked bios and so on.

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AYO

besides the unlocked bios, do I need to do anything else if I want to replace the wifi card in a T420? just order a new one, put it in and that's it right? no bullshit antenna wires replaced right?

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>>59461475
heres the pic, i was thinking the same thing, pic looks fairly crisp for a gumtree ad. to check the bios i just go hold f2 right?

>>59461553
that's a stock photo

>>59461382
Yeah, all **20 series and earlier are marvelous works of shit. But, the T5** laptops are heavy as ass to carry around. Your deal looks good except the ssd is a bit too small (160gb) which is fine depending on what your going to be doing, and windows 10 which is most abominable software i've ever laid my eyes on. No windows 10 is really bad shit, its so bad that when you turn on the screen it will teleport you to a designated shitting street and make you start shiting out toxic gook batteries through your trousers like a pajeet. For the love of god and terry davis install temple OS or at least linux.

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1489845390969.webm

>>59461321
Upgrade with a P9700.

>>59461382
Is it refurbished or not?

>>59461572
yep, searched it and thought it was suspect.

>>59461573
the fuck are you on about

>>59461553
lol reverse image search your own post

>>59461603
ad off gumtree

>>59461605
I'm on a autistic shitposting rampage, you are free to join me.

>>59459869
can i get any thinkpad for a decent price that can run ffxiv?

>>59461611
i did, easier to upload it to use 4chans reverse search.

>>59461619
*so just second hand

>>59461628
If you're looking for a gaming laptop, you get way more bang for your buck from others.

>>59461628

T430

>>59461382
>Win10
How well does it run?

>>59461628
Get a T420
Dont listen to this gook nigger:
>>59461660
A t430 will break down faster than you can piss on a soda stand, you fucking lelno-vo gook shill can go fuck off back to which ever part of chink-land you came from.

>>59461686
idk, ill be installing ubuntu or 8 on it anyway

>>59461724
>Get a T420
lmao ffhiv runs like shit on sandy bridge gpu's. enjoy your 12fps@640x480

>>59461792
Its a fucking web game, if you really need ivy bridge install coreboot on the fucker, it will allow the installation of ivy bridge cpus into your t420. Fucking dumb nigger.

>>59461818
>it will allow the installation of ivy bridge cpus into your t420.
allegedly, also enjoy your nuclear powerplant temps.

>>59461818
>fucking web game
ffiv is intense tho

>>59461892
Yeah man. SNES emulation gets real awful on those old lenovos.

>>59461887
>nuclear powerplant temps
>ivy bridge cpus have the same TDP as sandy bridge

Leave nigger, I can clearly see that your skin is brown.

>>59461906
My t40 emulates snes at 640x480 at 60fps with no problems.

>>59461934
what's with the racism today

>>59461892
Fuck off and by a gayman laptop then, thinkpads are not for niggers to run weeb shit games while smearing their chicken wing sauce on the keyboard.

>>59461906
>SNES emulation gets real awful on those old lenovos
How old?
T60 runs flawlessly here, with lakka.

Why is it so hard to

>no thinkpads are too underpowered play games

Instead of

>no you dumb leathery nigger $200 thinkpads are not underpowered and stop playing games

>>59462018
Who ever said all thinkpads are not underpowered.
The reason I call you a nigger is because you can't use basic reasoning, like the mind of a typical dark skinned hairless monkey.

>>59461934
>ivy bridge cpus have the same TDP as sandy bridge

*[citation needed]

>>59462018
Also, use fucking post links like this:
>>59459903
>>59459941
>>59459958
>>59459967
>>59459971
>>59459986
>>59459999
>>59460019

>>59462073
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_i5_microprocessors#.22Sandy_Bridge.22_.2832_nm.29

I'm going to stop spoonfeeding you nigger, you can't even use a search engine. Just leave.

>>59462093
i'm not clicking that shit

>>59462062
I wasn't even the guy you were talking to. Anyways your attitude is more nigger than any nigger I've seen.

>>59462109
But you can't even click it you nigger!
Its a fucking wikipedia link.

If you are such a stubborn porch monkey go to google and type "List of Intel Core i5 microprocessors" and scroll down to sandy bridge.

>>59462140
>go to google
stopped reading here, google is a botnet.

so, I found this x220 i7 without hdd and ram for 60$ should I go for it?

>>59462405
If it is in good condition that sounds really neat. You get to choose RAM and HDD, I would probably buy an SSD for it though. Buy fast RAM and flash a custom BIOS

hey losers

i just got a z61t and i loaded it up with bunsenlabs (jessie fork of crunchbang)

i'm getting exceedingly shitty battery life with debian- usually 1-2 hours- and this is a brand new ebay 6 cell. is there anything I can do about that?

>>59462588
>linux
>battery life
ayy

>>59462588
install tlp

>>59462677
poo in the loo

WHLhy does my X320 sometimes have it's apostrophe key and other keys stop working?

Did g meme me?

So I just got an x230 for 200 euros, just wanted to share. I wanted to buy x220 but there wasn't any at my local store, so I went with x230, and as much as people scared me with the keyboard, it's really not bad, better than most consumer laptop keyboards out there anyway.

>>59461906
Higan?

>>59461020
Cute dog.

I love my ThinkPad x220

It is so fucking comfy bah gawd

>>59462000
Are you 11 or something, it's embarrassing to read the shit you post.

>>59462917
is it ips?

>>59463065
Think so yes

Any specific parameters I should change in BIOS to get the most of T420?

>>59463250
The option that swaps the Fn and Ctrl keys with each other.

>>59461321
cleaned the son of a gun and upgraded its 160GB to a 300GB HD, now off to install win7 and xubuntu on it.

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Why are you people buying T420 when you can buy a T430 for almost the same price?

>>59463371
Because T430 is shit. If you had used both machines, you would understand.

>>59463250

fan active trip points
sata alp/m mode if you have a ssd
disable intel me
set ram frequency to 1866
turbo mode long power limits
disable uefi boot
increase dvmt gfx mem size
disable event log


>>59463371
this fucking autist again with "muh T430 and X230"

aren't you bored of spamming this shit in every /tpg/ thread?

you're literally worse than Dell pooinloos and HP gooks at this point.

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>>59463570
>Because T430 is shit
Explain.

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>>59463678
>this fucking autist again with "muh T430 and X230"
I'm not that person.

>>59463678
>disable intel me
Any specific reasons?
>set ram frequency to 1866
Isn't this limited by hardware ?
>turbo mode long power limits
Better battery life?
>increase dvmt gfx mem size
>disable event log
Have no idea about those two.

>>59462730
i did that, still around 2 hours. could the actual battery just suck?

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aloha /g/, im having a problem trying to enable anti-aliasing when playing games on my X230, is this a common issue?
most in-game options appear blurred out as if i had no AA support, but from what ive heard the hd graphics 4000 supports it. What could cause the problem? recently installed nfs prostreet to give it a last try, but the same thing is happening. in this case the game doesnt let me turn on the anti-aliasing option.
thanks in advance

>>59463570
Except the T430 comes with
>better graphics performance
>better screen
>better keyboard (yes fuckers, the new keyboard is better, get over it)

>>59463986
linux sucks

>>59463998

>>59463678
>this fucking autist again with "muh T430 and X230"

>>59464025
not even that guy, just a regular T430 user

>>59464014
no shit. but i have a centrino duo (32bit only) and 2gb of ram with an ssd. i'm limited by power and i don't want to carry my good laptop around every day (aw13r3, i5, gtx1060, oled)

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just had to repost this because it is both funny and accurate

>>59463986
>>59464054
2 hours actually sounds about right for that hardware and battery

i only managed around 3 out of a genuine 9cell on my T60, even on windows

Should I buy the T470 or are there some critial changes which will make me unhappy, but I don't realize them yet?

I'm using a T430

>>59463994
I have the same thing, I don't think there's a fix. Often AA is based 100% on what's supported by the card and you can't force it otherwise.

There are other solutions which are basically fake software AA which you can download from the internet if you really need it, If you must reduce jaggies you can increase the internal resolution in config files for most games if you've got the FPS to spare.

What is a better option, fhd or wqhd on a x1c? Which one will give me better clarity?

What start and stop charge thresholds should I choose?

X220 with 9cell

>>59465199
Maybe 40/60

>>59465172
higher pixel density will give better clarity and sharper images

however 1920x1080 is kind of rough on a 14" screen, but 2560x1440 would be even rougher and you will have to use scaling in order to read or do anything with it and not everything works so great with scaling

so it depends what you are doing with it

>>59465292
This.
>>59465172
With high PPI you need scaling and that makes you dependent on Windows 10.

>>59465292
>>59465353
Alright thanks.
Doesn't ubuntu allow scaling?

My T420.. the best meme I ever fell for. Aside from a blue screen it's been pretty neat.

>>59465455
>Doesn't ubuntu allow scaling?
It's not about the OS, it's about the desktop environment. Some Linux DEs handle scaling quite well but these are the ones that are usually considered dogshit. For example GNOME 3. Also, even if your DR of choice supports scaling you can't be sure about the software. On Linux the situation is worse than on Windows.

>>59459967
Search eBay for batteries with showing serial numbers. and claim them. If they are already claimed, change the last 4 characters a bit until you get an unclaimed one.

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Who /comfy/ here

>>59465544
I see thanks again. I guess ill go with a fhd refurbished x1c

which one is smaller x60s or the x200?

>>59459869
Do someone know a trustworthy seller of refurbished thinkpads? I need one under 200u$d

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hey guys, i have an x230T, but one of those things it claps onto when i close it, got lost. Do you happen to know where can i buy this/what is it called?

>>59466407
you have to get a whole new keyboard bezel to replace the little rubber bumper things

you're lucky the little rubber things just broke off rather than snapping the thin plastic of the keyboard bezel on the outside of them

>>59466436
Thank you!

1280x800 X200s or 1366x768 X220 for twice the price ?

>>59466634
Depends if you want more performance but worse resolution or less performance and better resoltuion.

>>59466634
I'd pick the x200s hands down but that's because i already got a T420.

>>59466671
is 1366x768 really better than 1280x800 ?
You have more vertical space, it might be useful for web browsing, for instance

>>59459869
Has there been any update on the state of X230's with eGPU + 16gb ram? There's some high memory usage (photogrammetry) workloads I want to accomplish on my laptop and I'm very aware of how limiting 8gb is, hell 16gb isn't really enough either.

the new x1 carbon looks p good, looking for a new eGPU setup
is that silly?

>>59461321

Why does it have some specs in spanish? are you from spain?

Also welcome to the club.

>>59461602

Citation needed. Interested.

>>59466407
don't bother, they're cheap shit that will just break again

build quality has really gone down the shitter

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Is it possible to put a T60 screen on the T61 body?

The unevenness is killing me

Are there any respectable aftermarket batteries for Thinkpad? Ducacell, 2-Power etc.?

>>59467866
Anker if they make it for your model
Duracell obviously

>>59463998
Switches are better, layout is high octane cancer.

>>59467469
https://www.google.com/search?q=t60+screen+lid+on+t61+site%3Aforum.thinkpads.com

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>tfw you fell for the thinkpad meme

Copped a T420s with the 2.5Ghz i5 and a 120GB SSD for $120, no damage whatsoever. Bought 2x8 1333MHz RAM for another Benji. Should come on Thursday. I'll probably buy a regular HDD down the road but it's not necessary right now.
Did I do good, lads?

>>59468501
any clean sandy/ivy thinkpad under $150 is a good get imo

Would you guys pay 300 euros for a T430 with i7-3520M 8 GB RAM, 320 GB HDD?
I'm not sure if I should get it or not.

>>59465199
40/60 if you barely take it off your desk, like once a month or a couple of months.

60/80 if you you go mobile at least once a week so you can have a proper charge ready.

How decent is the x250?

I picked up a job where I'm going to travel a lot this year and want a reasonably light and thin ultrabook. I already bought an Asus UX303U and I fucking hate it. Was thinking about an X1 too.

>>59466269
In terms of weight they're nearly identical with the small batteries, around 3 pounds.
In terms of size the x60s is much taller, whereas the x200 is wider, dunno which one is thicker though.

>>59466701
Um... read my post again.
>more performance and worse resolution
or
>less performance but better resolution

what do you think I meant by that?

>>59460065
does the t61 motherboard have 2 mini pci slots? How do you run this in conjunction to a wifi card

What's the best used business laptop I can buy for 60 canuck bucks (shipping included)? As long as it's least a Core 2 Duo, I'm happy.

>>59470130

T43

>>59470294
What about 75?

newfriend here, whats this meme between x220 and x230? is it just because of the different keyboards?

>>59470090
There's a second slot right below the CPU.

Would a latitude D630 work fine as a DD today? Gonna be using it for web browsing, youtube, and word processing.

How you deal with coil whine?
I just purchased an x200 and the thing keeps making high pitched noises. I think It might be the fan.
I can hear the fan begin to start up, but then it stops and all i hear is this whine that slowly fades until it does it again.
I bought this fan off of ebay to replace the previous one which was giving a fan error.

>>59470776
I had an X220 that suffered from extreme coil whine. Or more like coil scratching because it was a relatively low pitched scratching
noise that increased with CPU load. I managed to identify the inductor responsible for this but I couldn't fix it so I sent it back and got an X230.
Best decision I could have made.

What you're describing really sounds like fan whine though. You could try and replace the fan.

Hey /g/ what's the cheapest thinkpad that can handle web browsing? I'm looking to buy one for my mom.

>>59470411
Both are awesome laptops but if you really want the meme keyboard you can easily put it in the x230

>>59467080
its portuguese, I am from brazil. thanks, been using the x200 and loving it so far, very comfy, still setting xubuntu up though, just configured xsessionrc to use middle button to scroll up/down with with trackpoint

>>59462881
thanks

>>59468447
baka shinji

Would these OEM batteries be any good for a backup? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Laptop-Battery-For-HP-EliteBook-840-G1-CM03XL-HSTNN-IB4R-717376-001-/122039324273
I'd like to try and improve battery life on my 840 G1 and the slice one is way too expensive or hard to find relaly.

if I have a thinkpad in mostly dockingu mode (but off dock when I take it out of the house of course), what should I do with the battery to ensure longevity in the long run? Theres a setting in the thinkvantage tools about it but I'm not sure about it

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how'd i do?

basically a yoga 460 with a 940m instead of just intel 520.

>The only laptop with an active stylus and a dedicated graphics card that isn't expensive that's out there.

>>59471720
Not a Thinkpad.

>>59471720
trash

t430 /w 5400m
install i7 3630qm

after 2 days, 5400m is no longer present in device manager. dedicated option in bios brings it back. re-installing stock i5 3360m immideatly brings back 5400m.

new i7 3630qm. 7 days later same thing.

is the mobo burning out the i7? why would a cpu prevent the 5400m from initializing?

what the fuck? i dont understand.

>>59471032
The fan doesn't even sound like its started, i just here a kind of noise like it was about to rev up, and then I hear a high pitched squeal. Then it gets lower in intensity until the initial sound starts it over. Weirdly if the fan actually spins it doesn't make the noise, but it sounds sorta unbalanced or something because it doesn't sound smooth.Its supposedly a new fan.

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Does anyone have the photo of that asian chick with the X220t with the FSF sticker on it?

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Just nabbed this X60s with a couple chargers and slices for 50 bucks on eBay. How'd I do?

finally something I can use in bed since my t420 is always docked.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-ThinkPad-X60s-L2400-1-66GHz-with-2-Media-Slices-NO-RESERVE-/132123187880?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=AeeHOFP3vLAy6FPCOF%252BxFCKvf4A%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

>>59471881
What AC adapter are you using? I recall an anon who had a really tricked-out T430 with a quad core and the dGPU and he needed a 130W power supply because even the 90W wasn't enough.

>>59459869
question about the EPP, doesnt Lenovo will know some profile has more order than usual? I'm thinking of buying through that but I know nothing about it...

>>59473207
fix your clusterfuck of grammar

>>59473234
>fixed it just for you
On the issue of EPP, Lenovo will not know some of the configuration file than usual have more order? I was wondering through that purchase, but I did not know anything about it ...

>>59473274
I'm actually not sure if this is a joke

>>59473274
>Has anyone really been far even as decided to use EPP even go want to do make of configuration file look more like purchase as to lots of order .......
ftfy

>>59472335
>50 bucks
You did "okay" assuming free shipping, as you expect with eBay. You can pretty reliably find good stuff there, just not at great deals. Congratulations on your purchase, I hope it makes you happy.

>>59473391
>You did "okay" assuming free shipping, as you expect with eBay. You can pretty reliably find good stuff there, just not at great deals. Congratulations on your purchase, I hope it makes you happy.
Where is the place to find good Thinkpad deals online, then?

>>59473532
Online is very difficult. Less trafficed sites are extremely unreliable, but have more variance in price ranges. I'm stalking one for the next few months for which I'll share results when I'm done.
Offline shopping seems to yield the best deals, but that's information I can only get secondhand. Only the overpriced e-waste recyclers sell old computers in my area.

I'm thinking of selling my x200 to buy an x220.
How much could I expect to get out of it realistically?

>>59474005
not enough to be worth your trouble just keep it

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About to splurge on a second hand W530. I currently own a T430.

Is it worth it?
T430 is pretty comfy as is :^)

>>59474073
I wouldn't recommend it. Mine was complete ass. i7 alone won't give huge boost unless you're doing some serious number crunching. Probably gets much hotter too.

>>59474073
question about your t430, did you upgrade the screen? i get eyestrain on the stock t430, followed by nausea.

>>59474005
I'd buy it if you do international shipping.

>>59474107

Still have stock screen. Just came back from vomiting. I know that feel.

>>59474114
What country are you in mayn? I've got an old x201 sitting around here that's surplus to requirements.

My T420 whines when I scroll or watch videos because of coil/CPU whine. It's not a consistent whine, it's more of a very eerie buzzing capacitor sound, almost a beeping noise, which makes it sound creepy and distracting in near-silent circumstances. Ear to the keyboard and you can hear it very clearly. I read it's a design flaw but I'm tempted to swap the mobo based on a few success stories. Oh well.

>>59474140
Chile and i can't find small comfy thinkpads like the x60, x61 or x200 over here.

I could buy it from the US too if i use a freight forwarding company but I'm a pleb who can't score a good deal on eBay.

>>59474204
Well, it's not going to be economical for me to ship it to you then, would cost like 50% the cost of the laptop in extra shipping cost.

What are the shipping costs like for you from ebay sellers? Have you checked it out?

>>59474195
X220 here same problem
You're paying for durability and work evironment usability, not audiophile gear

>>59474195
Is it happening all the time, or only when you have the ac adapter in?

>>59474229
There are so many things I love about the lap top, I don't have the heart to show any frustration based on this nitpick, but if I can make a near-perfect computer perfect I will do it.

>>59474239
I never use the laptop with the AC adapter in, because doing so killed off the battery in my trusty Compaq. I just use my T420 on battery. The sound goes away almost completely when CPU power management is disabled, but that makes it run hot and murders the battery life. It goes away completely, 100%, during battery stretch for some unknown reason. Well, maybe it's because I have Chance CPU Speed to the Lowest ticked, and the CPU is lowered to a level at which the buzzing is negated. Perhaps I should find away to make battery stretch stay on forever.

>>59474278
keeping the battery at 100% does kill batteries

but constantly discharging and recharging it kills it even faster

Lenovo's power manager lets you set custom charge thresholds so it does not keep it at 100% all of the time

>>59474225
well fug, i tried anyway in case you were closer.

>What are the shipping costs like for you from ebay sellers? Have you checked it out?
From the US with freight forwarders is usually around 35-45% of the total value which is why i am sticking mostly to bids instead of buy it now listings.

>>59474278
Try disabling turbo boost or turning off/on CPU power management in the BIOS maybe.

>>59471110
anything that runs win98 will also be able to run internet explorer

>>59463974
>turbo mode long power limits
>Better battery life?

and better temps.

>>59459869
my X220 reached 97 oC on compiling(i7-2620m), is it normal?
" TJUNCTION: 100 C "

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What should I buy for my x200?
I mean, I'm not sure if it's worth risking with the chink, since the mAh indicated it's probably false...

>https://www.amazon.it/PATONA-Premium-Batteria-Laptop-Thinkpad/dp/B01AV8IY6C

>https://aliexpress.com/item/exploding-battery/32251935306.html

>>59476502
bump

Getting really shit read and write speeds for the ssd in my t430. Kingston sv300 240 gb showing up as 180 mb/s read and 130 mb/s write. Any idea what it could be?

>>59476795
Nvm newegg has it listed as 450 mb/s read and write but the actual specs listed on the kingston website have it close to my values.

>>59459869
can a thinkpad with kabylake a win 7/8 host? or should i get an older one?

>>59459869
Linux says my elitebook battery is 100% original capacity, could that be wrong?

I'm getting ~4 hours on my 2170p running Solus.

>>59476502
yes

clean the fan, disable turbo boost

shit, you can even disable HT if you're compiling all day everyday.

also get one of those chinkshit coolingpads

>>59477002
>Solus

>>59476880
Are you sure those values are right? Benchmarks for it seem to indicate you should be getting the higher speeds
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6733/kingston-ssdnow-v300-review/2
Unless that's for the wrong model or something.

>>59477002
>Solus
Where are you actually getting the reading? Maybe check the output of acpi or something similarly reliable.

X220 i7 2.8GHz, 8GB RAM, 170GB SSD & IPS for £180. How'd I do /g/ ?

>>59477107
I timed it while at work the other night. I used it like normal except I didn't let it turn screen off or go to sleep till battery was 10%.

>>59477111
Fukken nice. I wish I got a deal like that. I got an X220 with an i5 2450m, 8GB of RAM and a 128GB SSD for 245€. No IPS either.

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I don't know if I should buy a T or an X series, youtube videos don't help because I can't really get a perspective.

CHINK OR NOT-CHINK BATTERIES, ANONS?

>>59477111
bretty good

>>59477121
I mean the 100% part anon.

Where did you get it anyway? If it's a refurb then it should be 100% anyway since that's what you're paying for.

The 3.5 mm jack connector is fucked on my T420. I have to jiggle and find the correct position every time I plug in my headphones. What can be done here?

Also one of the USBs is bad as well, but that doesn't really annoy me.

>>59477210
X is the right size for a laptop if you have a desktop.

If you're going to use the laptop for everything though, I'd recommend the T series. It all depends on your usage. I like the X220 because it's small, easy to grab and carry around, but not small enough that it's uncomfortable to work with.

>>59477232
chink

>>59477210
T

>>59477265
replace it, a new one is $7

>>59477210
x200 are probably the cheapest and most functional

>>59477265
There's a chance it's just differences in plugs if your headphones don't include a line for a mic and other headphones work fine. Either way it sounds like that daughterboard is somewhere between mildly fucked and fairly fucked, and it'd probably be worth looking into replacing it.

>>59477310
Where can I get one?

>>59477342
I just checked with other headphones and it does the same

Can I put Windows 8.1 on a X220 just fine or does that drain the battery a lot faster due to the lack of support for the battery manager thing?

>>59477346
ebay, look for T420 Audio Jack

>>59477363
>lack of support for the battery manager thing
Why are you even on /g/?

>>59477377
great thx

My x220 is very dirty. Do I just pop the keyboard off and clean it. Or is there more stuff to remove

>>59477274
I don't have a desktop in this house, I'm working faraway from my main house, and I'd like to use a thinkpad as as a desktop with a dock, so that I could take it away with me whenever I had to go home.

>>59477410
In your case I would probably take a T420, find one with decent specs.

>>59477399

Read the Hardware manual for X220, it's literally ~7 screws and pushing the keyboard back and forth

>>59477363
You can get roughly the same on it if you keep your habits the same

>>59477399
Depends on where else the dirt gets. You may or may want to tear it down to get to the heatsinks but depends I guess

>>59476502
The i7 one is known to run particularly hot despite having the same TDP. Just don't pick it up while hot lol, otherwise it may lead to premature malfunction death like my X220t lol

>>59477243
It says it in battery stats.
It should for every distro, or at least it has for every distro I've tried.
>Ubuntu + some DE versions
>Fedora
>mint
>Solus

And yeah it was a refurb, but I wasn't sure since even a refurb laptop is a used one.
I guess if it's supposed to be 100% and it says 100% then that's good for me.
Thanks mate.

>>59477523
>You can get roughly the same on it if you keep your habits the same
not really, it's shit compared to Win7

>>59477727
You get exactly the same options for power management, which is all lenovo's power manager is doing for the most part. I'm pretty sure 8.1 ends up running slightly lighter as well, the obviously you might need to go through and clean up all the apps and shit it integrates by default, to get it to that point.

>>59477727
Any benchmarks on this?

What are the /tpg/ recommended thin/lightweight laptops that aren't crap, ie. shitty processors, low RAM capabilities, etc.

>>59478086
Depends on how light you want to go. Look at the X220/X230 and if you want thinner then look at newer generations of them or at X1 Carbons.

>>59477914
if you don't believe me look it up or see for yourself.

>>59477902
>You get exactly the same options for power management
>I'm pretty sure 8.1 ends up running slightly lighter as well
let me have what you're smoking pls

>>59478215
*to be clear, I'm only talking about battery life and power settings such as charging thresholds

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Hello friends, why do you complain so much about the screens, is 1366 x 768 really that bad.

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>>59478215
>>You get exactly the same options for power management
See pic related, it's the same shit in 7.
>>I'm pretty sure 8.1 ends up running slightly lighter as well
http://www.pallareviews.com/1217/windows-7-vs-windows-8-battery-life/
>let me have what you're smoking pls
Seems like you're struggling enough while sober. But if you don't believe the benchmarks, you're free to go look them up and see for yourself.

>>59478303
Depends on the size of the screen. Even on larger screens you can get used to it to a reasonable degree, but all the 1366x768 screens you'll find on thinkpads are rubbish in other regards anyway, save X series models that just have HD screens of varying quality.

>>59475273
Will it throttle the CPU?

>>59478303
Tolerable on the 12.5", crappy on 14", horrific on anything larger

>>59478266
Charging thresholds is the only one I had issues with. I would just set it in a 7 installation and it would carry over, only being reset if the battery was removed. It could then be restored by booting into the 7 installation whenever convenient

>>59478303
You're right. On a 2-inch screen, it looks great.

>>59478336
>See pic related, it's the same shit in 7.
You dumb fuck, show me the equivalent of the lenovo power manager and how to change battery thresholds in 8.1

Oh wait you cant


Nigger

>>59478418
Dude google what turbo boost is.

Now think what happens if you disable it.

Also if you encounter the term "race to idle" you should know this concept and all related arguments are irrelevant when it comes to laptops with dogshit heatsinks.

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>>59478303
It's not the resolution that's awful on the T420, but the combination of viewing angles and contrast.

You know why these reflective strips are so effective? Because we have binocular vision so each eye sees the strip at different brightness, thus giving it a glow effect.

That's what the T420 screen is like. The viewing angles are so shitty that the small offset of your eyes changes how everything appears. The blue will appear as blue to your right eye but purple to your left eye. Incredibly shitty is an understatement.

Any news on the retro Thinkpad? I haven't followed anything since those polls took place.

Anybody running Linux on their T420?
Does installing the Intel drivers for the iGPU makes a difference for VAAPI performance?

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>>59478790
So that means that I should choose a thinkpad with a 1600 x 900 panel?

>>59478923
Just avoid the t420/t430

>>59478672
Nobody mentioned thresholds up till now. But sure, that exists too, and the solution is trivial enough to find. Do you really need me to spoonfeed shit to you straight out of a search engine?

Why are you butt-hurt over the idea of Windows 7 being inferior in any regard?

>>59478827
Nothing substantial beyond vague acknowledgements.

>>59478923
On a 14" model, yes. There are also options that are yet better than the stock 1600x900 screen so if you're really keen on getting the absolute best you'll have to upgrade either way. The OEM panel is definitely sufficient though.

>>59478848
I doubt it makes any difference.

>>59478923
Fuck off.

>>59479068
:^(

>>59478951
I think I might put 8.1 on my X220 if I ever get tired of the current setup. I'm used to laptops/tablets running smooth with 8.1 instead of 10 / 7

>>59478951
>Why are you butt-hurt over the idea of Windows 7 being inferior in any regard?

because it's not, see for yourself, and the UI is raping sandybridge igp's because they don't officially support Windows8.1's WDDM 1.3, they don't even support WDDM 1.2, so you have cpu/gpu/temp/fan trips spikes galore while doing generic stuff thus your battery life is shittier on a windows8.1 install.

you only get "slightly lighter" win8.1 UI on a (at least) HD4000 and HD2500 because they're fully supported by intel jewdrivers hence why I've insinuated you're on crack.

you didnt spoonfed me shit, you're just a dumb /v/ tier pajeetnigger who instead of actually trying this shit by yourself you act like comparing battery life between windows versions is rocket science and we only need to rely on online benchmarks instead of common sense while observing the same laptop that obviously behaves differently.

>>59459986
Speaking of which, I still have a Celeron G530 + 4gb hanging about used. Could that be used as decent server?

>>59459869
€350 for an i7, 8gb, great condition, Intel SSD X200 on an auctions site. At what price is that decent?

>>59480646
*X220

>>59480539
Not the anon you've been replying to, but why the fuck would you engage in an argument over which version of Windows is more power efficient when what you're really trying to say is that Sandy bridge doesn't support newer display tech? All you're doing is being a fucking douche for the sake of it. You're not correct, you're just confusing and douchey.

>>59478672
Power manager works on 8.1/10, just the work around

And power manager is just a front end for windows power plans. It's useless.

There's an official Lenovo suite for changing battery thresholds now.

Lenovo ThinkPad X220 - Intel Core I5 2450M 2.5 GHz / 8192 MB / 320 GB HDD / Intel HD Graphics / 12.5" 1366x768 / Windows 7 Professional

for 199€ with 2 year warranty... Should I take it?

>>59480783
$150 tops

anyone with a x270 ?

>>59480699
>All you're doing is being a fucking douche for the sake of it.

because that retard speaks out of his ass without even trying/experiencing this shit in the first place and says shit like

>>59478951
>sure, that exists too, and the solution is trivial enough to find.

while he's obviously wrong and many people had problems with this, including me and this tripfag here

>>59478535
>Charging thresholds is the only one I had issues with. I would just set it in a 7 installation and it would carry over, only being reset if the battery was removed. It could then be restored by booting into the 7 installation whenever convenient


>>59480699
>You're not correct

yes I am. windows 8.1 and 10 are objectively worse at battery life on a sandy bridge cpu (and older) than windows 7 and that is a fact. try it and see for yourself.

>>59459869
Lenovo Thinkpad X220 i5 2520m 2.5 Ghz 4GB for £99/€114.

So-so condition with the right hand side USB broken.

Really just want a comfy portable typewriter for PhD research, even one working USB is enough for my sticks.

T430s, i5 3230m, 8gb, nvs 5200m, £130. did i fuck up? planning to run centos/fedora

>>59480990
>Really just want a comfy portable typewriter for PhD research, even one working USB is enough for my sticks.
m8 if you're happy with it then congrats. you should also get a cheap ssd so it's completely silent while typing about.

>>59462677

I get 7 hours of battery life on a 6 year old laptop, stop getting cucked by your poo in loo dells and hps.

>>59481188
Bloody hell, at second thought the seller is selling it at 4gb, it has 3gb, which is odd, I thought this things came with 4gb minimum.

>>59472642
that makes perfect sence. didnt know they made a 130w for t430

can anyone post FRU or link for 130w adapter that is compatible with t430? everything on ebay has the wrong port

>>59481250
oh you didnt buy it yet? who says 3GB? the ad or some screenshot? maybe it had two, I've seen business machines that shipped with two, and he added one later.

>>59481300
My bad, it's not 130W you want, it's 135.

This ought to work in your T430, looks to be the right connector: http://www.ebay.com/itm/292030882362

>>59481312
No senpai, not yet.

His description and a screenshot both show 3GB being used by Windows 7 64-bit.

So sometimes they only have 2GB and then a 1Gb stick is added later?

>>59481384
>So sometimes they only have 2GB and then a 1Gb stick is added later?
I've seen this, yes, shipped with 2GB and people added how much they felt like it later. or you could ask him somehow if its got 1+2 or 2+2. but I doubt that's a problem.

I am a freelance graphics programmer and I want to trade in my macbook pro w/ retina for a thinkpad

I need a computer with the best intel GPU, a good screen and 8gb ram(4gb dedicated for graphics).

I will be doing Demos off my machine, but im a pretty big guy 250 pounds and 6'4 so I don't mind a 15 inch screen. but it has to look as good as it can. I have a desktop machine for real work

I will be runnin ubuntu 16.04


Right now I'm looking at Dell XPS 13 and asus zenbook, but I don't really need it to be small and light. I would prefer to have the latest intel gpu, which is a intel HD 620. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01K1IO3QW/ref=psdc_13896615011_t1_B01M18UZF5 looks like a pretty good option
but I had a t420 back in the day and it was good too.

Hey guys. I have found a IBM T43 cheap. It has 2GB ram and Intel Pentium M 1.73Ghz. Battery is broken, but that is easy to get online(?). I was wondering how much it would cost, and if/where I can upgrade it to fit modern standards.

I am not gaming or anything, just coding and surfing.

>>59481484
you're a big guy

>>59481484
Don't but any of the newer Thinkpads, they're shit. I suggest you try some other manufacturer.

>>59481371
you sir are a gentleman and a scholar, thank you for the info

Hey guys,
I am currently in a strange situation:
My company is going to give me 500€(germany)
for a new laptop.
The thing is I am using a t420 and I am insanely happy with it. I don't want to work on any other laptop but this one.

Now I also don't want to miss my chance to get 500€ worth hardware.

Is there anything I could get to upgrade my t420?
Was reading something about eGPU, new Display and maybe a new CPU.

So guys, what should I do, beside of buying a new latop.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-14-Intel-Core-I5-2520m-2-50GHz-4GB-128GB-Windows-7-/112336094963?hash=item1a27c0c6f3:g:xEAAAOSw4CFYrd3W

did i do'd good

Hi guys, should i get an mSATA SSD for my x220? What can I use it for?

>>59483137
main OS drive + secondary 2.5" storage hdd

>>59483154
How big should the mSATA SSD be? 64gb?

>>59462170
look it up on searx

>>59483233
depends on what do you need

I'd say a 128gb one would suffice, 256gb if you plan on multibooting different operating systems.

>>59462588
set CPU speed to lowest in bios when not charging, that might give it a tiny bit extra battery life

Fancy or chink batteries? Not sure what to buy.

Did anyone have trouble installing SSDs on the T430 family?

My kingdian kept freezing until I installed the intel rapid storage driver, so it was quite hard to install windows on it (the setup kept freezing).
I'm afraid it'll have similar issues with linux.

>>59483382
both deliver fine as long as you don't stick to obvious shitty <$30 chink batteries

>thinking about buying a new thinkpad
>browse /tpg/ for the first time since i bought my last thinkpad
>try to help out people with my model if they have questions
>but really just trying to have you guys do my research for me
>make sure to ask like a retard and pretend i'm trying
>repeat about 5 times over a week, get a feel for your purchase
>make the purchase
>never come back to /tpg/

4chan is the best

>>59483055
>eGPU
This would be the most costly one because it means the adapter, a power supply and of course a new GPU.
>Display
There's not much to upgrade, only from 1366x768 to 1600x900 but both screens have the same shitty colors and there aren't any FHD mods available for purchasing yet.
>CPU
Yes you could upgrade to a quad core like the 2670QM/2720QM or something, those seem to be the preferred quad core models for the t420 without dwelling into housefire land.

There's also the obvious upgrades such as 2x8gb ram, 3 drives (msata ssd + hdd1 + hdd2) and the docking station.

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>>59471998

>>59483391
I use double SSD ( one in in ultrabay) no problem on t430s

Are the thinkpad t430/t430s screens really that bad? Is it bad enough to the point where it isnt worth it?

>>59483626
Unless you'll need them for some graphical work, they're acceptable.

>>59483492
thanks for the ideas even thoug I dont think I will reach the 500€
Currently I have 2x8GB 1xSSD 1xHDD (where should I put the third one?) and also a dockingstation.

what would be the best eGPU combination, since it looks like it's the only thing that would make sense

>>59483661
I heard that they give you nausea and shit, was that just a meme?

>>59483773
wtf i switched to t430s about 3 months ago from x230 and feel like shit the past 8 weeks, is that it?

Is there somewhere online I can purchase the classic rainbow colored thinkpad logo to stick in place of the new silver/red one?

>>59483681
>where should I put the third one
An mSATA SSD next to the ram slot on the back of the laptop, another in the main drive bay and the third in the optical drive bay.

>what would be the best eGPU combination
From my own experience with an EXP GDC as adapter, stick to the 9xx cards like the 960 because Pascal cards were unstable as fuck, dunno if it has been fixed though.

>only thing that would make sense
A quad core processor could also make sense but only if you need a massive boost in multicore processing power and don't have the model with nvidia dGPU.

>>59483790
Ive heard its massive eyestrain mixed with feeling nauseous, is that what youre feeling?

>>59483773
seems like like a shitty meme desu.
My t430s is fine. Better than I expected initially.

>>59483580
Kingdian or a proper brand?
Anyone is using a kingdian in his t430/t430s?

>>59483821
Yeah, been throwing up and shit, feeling bad, but might be something else idk man wow

>>59483851
One kingston and one seagate i think, or intel, cant remember really. I have Win10 Enterprise and Fedora on one, arch and freebsd on the other. Never had to install drivers or confiure anything. All linux, bsd and win work fine out of the box.

t430s w/ w10
i5-3320
6gb ram
320gb hdd

$150. seems like a good deal to me

>>59483895
About what I expected. Guess I've fallen for /csg/ meme.

Still, hoping someone else is using a kingdian and could tell if he experienced any difficulties.

>>59483972
I'm using a 120gb Kingdian s280 but on another laptop, not a thinkpad.

It has been working very well with Win7, nothing to complain about.

>>59483821
>>59483860

kek

you need to go back

Any thinkpad with 7+ hours of battery?

>>59484390
yes all of them that are less than 5 years old

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>>59459869
Can I clean up / fix this some way?

>>59483492
egpu makes a lot more sense dollar-wise when the card is "free", as in pulled out of your or a friends desktop during an upgrade. 200w dell da-2 brick shouldn't cost more than $20, and a ~100w chinese ebay jobber can be $10 if the card doesn't need anything nuts for power, like a 750 ti

>>59484600
sure, some paint thinner and a couple of cotton pad and it's brand new.

I need a new keyboard for my T420. They are a whole lot cheaper in non US layout.

My question is, can I buy a foreign language keyboard and snap on US keys? As long as my comp is set to US it shouldn't make a difference right?

>>59485289
>can I buy a foreign language keyboard and snap on US keys?
sure

https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner

Lads would this be safe to run on my corebooted T520?

>>59483972

I use a Kingdian S280 120GB since a whole year in my T420. Everything's perfect.