XPS 15

>>59482771
>Windows

>>59482771
It's not a MacBook Pro

The XPS 15 and the 15-inch MacBook Pro are the only two laptops worth buying today. End of story.

>>59482771
it's not the precision 7510

It's expensive as fuck.

>>59482771
>laptop

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>>59482771
Gorgeous device.

>>59482876
>It's not a MacBook Pro
>Macbook Dongle-GimmickBar Edition with added Goober Trackpad

>>59482771
No Trackpoint/Thinkpad nipple

>>59482771
>Find a flaw.
done.

Webcam on the bottom side of the screen, when you type the other person will see your hands istead of your face.

no problem anon i saved you a bad experience

>>59483262
>Webcam
Who use that shit?

>>59482771
As an owner, it had some serious growing pains with firmware. Lockups when plugging in an external monitor via Thunderbolt, independent of operating system. Random flicker, because Skylake graphics are half baked.

It's a fantastic daily driver now, but I don't enjoy being a beta tester, and I won't be buying from Dell again.

>>59482899
One perfect for faggot gays
One perfect for faggot NSA butt plug victims

Seems about right.
>i7 7700HQ
Proper i7 at that as well.

What are the specs for the MBP 15 or might the XPS work as a hackingtosh?

>>59483410
Cry more fag

>>59482771
Keyboard is shit

>>59482771
Coil whine

Bad keyboard
That's about it, but it's a huge point

>>59482786
fpbp

>>59482771
should I buy the 1080p or the 4k? the bigger battery or the smaller battery with the 2.5 sata drive?

>>59483410

That's more of an Intel issue desu; that sort of shit happened across most brands. Skylake was badly rushed to market.

what about system76?

>>59483777
Absolutely agree. The BIOS issues were on them, though. You're basically playing roulette with which exciting bug you find acceptable.

>>59482771
>no clitmouse

>>59482771
It's literally perfect.

>>59483770
Fuck the 4k screen, you don't need that shit in your life. Get the longer battery life one, and switch the 32gb meme ssd out with a proper m.2 and you're set for life

>>59484229
Nah the 4k screen is too gorgeous to pass up. I don't need anymore than 7 hours battery life anyway.

>>59482771
price

It's not 13"

>>59482786
There are models with Ubuntu pre-installed

>>59484229
having two drives is nice, in my current laptop I have a 250gb ssd for the os and programs and a 2tb hdd for the files. m.2 ssd of high capasity are very expensive.

>>59482771
15" is too big for a laptop. should have bought the 13" duderino, maybe you can still return it

>>59484335
nah the xps 15 is smaller than you're average 15". it's literally perfect. No compromises.

>>59484357
*your

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>>59482771
If I ever buy another laptop from Dell, first thing I would do is wipe the hard drive clean and reinstall the OS. I put that off on my Inspiron, and now everyday I get pop ups about Dell's backup and support services. Really annoying.

>>59482771
4k screen on the 9550 is absolutely awful. The motion blur is bad enough to be problematic with PDF reading. The text turns into a green mess when scrolling, the color shifts off-angle.
Coil whine issue, but it wasn't as bad as some other terrible laptop I've heard.

I suppose we're on the 9560 now, so I'd also like to add that I would prefer something other than a 16:9 display.

>>59484335
The 15 inch one is the size of a normal 14 inch laptop. A little smaller even.
Also, I believe the popular 4chan phrase goes:
>manlet

>>59482771
Pre-installed windooze.

Isn't this the third day in a row that someone has been shilling for this laptop now?
There are better ones in the price range.

>>59484293
>Ubuntu

>>59484473
which ones?

>>59484473
None with the same or better specs without giving up slim and light build.

>>59482771
It's the MBP of the Windows world.

>shit keyboard
>meme ""features""" like bezel-less screen
>webcam = nostrilcam
>overpriced
>too much specs for the size, so everything's gonna get throttled anyways

>>59483285
The NSA

>no ethernet
>only 2 usb ports
Yeah, could be better.

>>59484659
most laptop keyboards are shit
bezel-less is worth it screw you
laptop webcams lul who cares
meh you get for you're paying for imo
not if you know how to undervolt

>>59482899
>My opinion is based on Ars Technica

>>59484846
>Most laptop keyboards are shit
Most laptops are shit

ugly carbon fiber

>>59482771
no numpad

>>59482771
that huge bezel at the bottom

>>59482771
the price

Dell logo

>>59483532
>proper
The desktop i7s have been desktop-specific forever and the mobile i7's have been dual core since before sandy bridge up until like 2008 or something
Quad core mobile chips is the outlier here

>>59485822
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i7-7700HQ-Notebook-Processor.187975.0.html

You are affirming that the XPS 15 has a quad core, right?

>>59485957
Could you not figure that out by reading my post? It's the "improper" mobile cpu

I owned 2 Dell laptops a decade ago and they were absolute shit. I will never buy another Dell product again.

>>59485957
If you're saying that "i7" takes precedence over "mobile" then boy do I have an i7 for you!
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davealtavilla/2017/01/30/intels-low-power-kaby-lake-y-series-processors-rebranded-for-good-reason/#54c413302a21

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>>59483285

>>59485981
I'm very confused
The i7hq in the XPS 15 is a 4 core 8 thread CPU. That's what makes it proper, as opposed to a ulv i7 which is a dual core and essentially an overclocked i5

>>59486021
Why are you pretending that a 4.5w dual core CPU is the same as a 45w quad core CPU with hyperthreading?

>>59486032
All mobile based I7s have been dual core
A quad core mobile chip is not "proper", it's the outlier
Intels desktop and mobile lines have never had the same naming implications, a desktop i7 has never been the same core design as a mobile i7 until the fairly recent Q series broke that tradition (as well as tripled the tdp)

>>59486055
Why are you? It has 4 cores and the i7 badge so it must be a "real i7" right?

>>59486081
And I'm talking about the quad core 5w chip

dell.

>>59486032
>which make it an i5
"I5" mobile processors have been dual core since i5's existed

>>59486081
Literally yes

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>>59486020
Is this post serious or are you being a Goofy Goober?

>>59486069
>fairly recent
What?
Core 2 Quad QX9300 perhaps?
i7-920XM?
i7-2630QM?
i7-3630QM?
etc...

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>>59486180
Bro ill sell you my i7 for cheap $100

>>59486069
What the hell are you talking about

They used to all be quad core
Then the ulv ones were dual core, making them just overclocked i5s and not significantly better in any way
But the HQ variants of mobile processors maintain their original core counts without cutting them out, hence being "proper"
So a proper laptop i5 is dual core, but a proper laptop i7 is a quad core.

What is difficult about that?

>>59486213
Does that has a 45w TDP with 4 cores and HT? Then it's not a real i7

>>59486244
I can make it have a 45w tdp if heat is important to making you feel better

>>59486231
>they used to be all quad core
False

>>59482771
its not a thinkpad

>>59486253
I don't even know what kind of autism I'm facing right now.

A quad core hyperthreading i7 is a "proper" i7 in most ways that matter.

You showing me how gimped core Y and ulv processors are doesn't change that

>>59486284
But you're admitting they're true i7's, hence why I wanna sell you one bruh

>>59486284
Or an Intel atom true i7?
Powerrrr

>>59482771
Uhh no dedicated graphics?

>>59486337
>>59486366
You guys are literally arguing against the things that I'm not saying
>Proper i7
High power consumption, quad core, hyper threading.
>Not proper i7
Dual core, low power consumption

So you guys meming about false meaningless i7 branding is the same thing that I look down on
So I don't understand why you think that disregarding shit CPUs affects the good ones

>>59482771
15 inches too much for me to carry, the performance gains are there but I only game lightly on the go (Emulators and such). 13 inches
>>59484309
pretty much this

>>59486440
GTX 1050

>>59484309
BIOS?

>>59486284
What in saying is that Intel has been calling things from dual cores to 72 cores "i7's" across all platforms starting from the first generation, calling something "true" just because it has some arbitrary core design you think is good is stupid, when Intel doesn't even do that

>>59483262
Yeah, the only flaw is the webcam positioning, but you know how you make it into a good thing instead?

The bottomm bezel is black and makes it really easy to just put some black electrical tape on it and forget about it forever.

>>59482771
>dell.com doesn't load with https properly
TRASH IT GOES INTO

>>59486456
The term is based on the idea that it most closely resembles a desktop i7, and thus can be called proper

Also based on the fact that 15w ulv CPUs started to replace 45w CPUs in equivalent sized/branded CPUs so the hunt for full voltage and core counted i7s became more rare and difficult in medium to smaller sizes laptops

Only autism and disregarding common sense would get you upset at people commenting on how the XPS 15 is commendable for having a good CPU

>>59486526
Like the i7-6900k?

>>59482771
touchpad

>>59482771
TB3 is hamstrung with only 2 pcie lanes

>>59484451
>>>59482771 (OP)
>4k screen on the 9550 is absolutely awful. The motion blur is bad enough to be problematic with PDF reading. The text turns into a green mess when scrolling, the color shifts off-angle.

I was sold until I read this. I like having a lot of real estate (high res) but not if the display is crap.

Are there alternatives?

>>59483120
I have this device and this is the one flaw imo but I bring a mouse everyone so who cares

>>59486025
>using a webcam

are you whoring your boi pucci online for tokens?

>>59483633
who uses a laptop keyboard anyway

issue: some come with a toshiba ssd (bad) some with samsung ssd (good). not sure what to do about my shit toshiba

>>59486187
Dell is the absolute worst at producing Laptops. Don't lie to yourself.

>>59482771
no backlit keyboard

its not a > U$ 100,00 thinkpad

>>59486453
For this price, it should have GTX 1060, like the Razer 14.

>>59488577
This

Also, no Numpad on a 15in laptop. Seriously?
My only issue with the Razer14 is the soldered 8GB DIMM. Fucking joke.

>>59488577
>Razer

>>59488312
Are you retarded?

>>59482771
its a laptop

>>59488748
Desktop shill

Laptops are literally using the same components. Same dimms, same ssds, same gpus, same usb/hdmi/dp connectivity.

Only the CPUs are different and unless you need an 8core desktop cpu, there is barely a performance disparity left to speak of.

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this

>>59488616
>>59488577
This costs less than the razer (lol) blade

>bad keyboard
>No trackpoint
I'll keep my x1 carbon

>>59488982
>chinkshit
lmfao

>>59488993
Why are you trying to imply that the dells have better build quality when it's factually untrue?

>>59489022
>shitty screen
>shitty trackpad
>shitty form factor
>shitty aesthetic
But at least it'll survive a 6 ft fall if I drop it like a dumbass :^)

>>59489046
The x1 carbon has
>Equal quality screen
>Same trackpad (Microsoft precision) + trackpoint
>Better form factor than XPS 15 or 13 including same thin bezels
>Actually has an aesthetic instead of being a worse MacBook with carbon fiber on the inside with a really awful pattern printed on it

>>59482771
To expensive for my university student ass

>>59486840
Actually, that camera placement is better for my cock

>>59482771
its 15 inches when 13 is clearly the best size

>>59484309
>Ubuntu

>>59489081
no the X1's screen doesn't compare to the xps 15s
just because it's a precision trackpad doesn't mean it's the same, the xps is better
false the bezel on the xps is thinner, slimmer, and far more attractive
>chinkpad having aesthetic
lmfao

>>59483650
this, for developers this is a major turnoff. I actually felt the spectre x360's keyboard was of better quality and that says alot.

>>59484493
they don't sell the xps 15 with ubuntu, therefore you're paying for winshit 10

>>59489294
>I now have to start making shit up

>>59489447
>implying

>>59483120
I had to let go of this desire as no laptops of quality actually have them anymore. Ive been happy with the surface book i got recently.

>Not a 2015 MBP 13 Retina
>Not a Xiaomi Air 13.3

>>59482786
That's got nothing to do with the laptop itself.

Lenovo P50
> i7-6700HQ and M2000M
> matte display
> 6-8 hours battery life on power saving mode
> performance mode when you need it
> quiet and cool
> easy to upgrade yourself
> removable battery

t. p50 user