AMD vs. INTEL

because the cheaper 7700k shits on any ryzen when it comes to gaming

>>59478982
>>59479092
and any other task

FAIL
DOZER
2.0

>>59478982
http://www.cpu-monkey.com/de/compare_cpu-amd_ryzen_7_1700x-706-vs-intel_xeon_e5_2620_v4-643


bacause if you do this intel loses

>>59479111
>b-but muh encoding. I totally encode 10 hours a d-day.

>>59479111

except every multicore benchmark

>>59479370
Yeah we totally encode h265 24/7 and would most definitely benefit from ryzen.

Damn, the time savings from uncompressing those illegally downloaded zip files.

>>59479415
what about video editing, streaming and future games beeing more multi core optimised?

>>59479092
>>59479111
>>59479341
>>59479415
Do they even give you shills lunchbreaks? I know you're on here 24/7 but goddamn. They crack the whip pretty hard over there.

>>59479491
it's true that the cheaper 7700k shits on any ryzen when it comes to gaming

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>>59478982
1800X can't even beat 2500k

>>59479510
>pi is a relevant benchmark

>>59479510
>cherry picking an app that relies heavily on single thread.

Are you even trying?

/g/aymen should buy a 7700K anyhow. Everyone with a brain knows which CPU is better for productivity and content creation.

>>59479559
Nearly all games are single thread heavy, so I'd say it's a very relevant benchmark for gaymen.

Also
>single thread
>can't beat 3.3 GHz with 4.0 GHz

>>59479559
are you saying ryzen has lower IPC than sandy bridge?

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>>59479510
>>59479586
>>59479605
Intel shill getting overboard by shilling now

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here comes the last chart do it in www.megapropcintellectualgeniousg.com

Lets compare it..... yes yes i see obviously is similar but AMD is quite better but i am sure it hotter than Intel....

>>59479671
>7700K butfucks ryzen

weewee

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>>59479680
10c/20t intel, how shameful

>>59479732
INTEL'S $1000 AND $1800 CPU'S CAN'T COMPETE WITH THEIR $300
INTEL IS BANKRUPT!

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>>59478982
Reminder

>>59479510

Meanwhile, where money is made...

>https://www.servethehome.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700-linux-benchmarks-zen-buy/

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>>59479490
>future games beeing more multi core optimised?

I've been hearing this shit for over 5 years now.

>>59479850
>>59479746
>>59479092
feels like intel guys realy don't want to talk about anything else than gaming in low resolutions. why would you even want a 7700k then? random i5 is good enough then.

content creation, streaming and video editing or anything els that needs more than 4 cores doesn't exist thats why intel sells you a 1700$ 8 core.

>>59480085
that one i3 fucking beast modes 90% of games from the benchmarks I saw

I'd get that if I didn't render, compile, and actually do stuff 24/7

>>59480108

The unlocked i3 is proof how badly Intel jews you now that they have given hyper threading to the G450. In fact that little pentium entirely invalidates the entire i3 line.

>>59479092

/g/ is the new /v/

>>59480108
yeah buying a cpu for more than 150$ is stupid. maybe progress should just stop because humanity only uses computers for low resolution gaming anyway.

welcome to 2017 where advancements in computers just became opsolete.
we finaly did it.

>>59479850
I wonder what will you post when it's $250 chip there, what other doesn't matter you'll invent I think we've been through a lot of doesn't matter already covering almost whole computing at this point

hurr duur 7700k shits on ryzen in gaming

huur duur ryzen is fail

meanwhile on the real world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njm0MBOwFTM&t=1s

find me a single 7700k that can do this

With all the bugs and unoptimized OS software I'll skip R5 Zen for an i5.

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>>59480273
Find me a single person who'll do this that's part of 99% of the world's population.

>>59480273
Impractical but impressive.

>>59480273
>the real world
i play 6 games at a time just like everyone else

>>59480302
all the mmo's players actually do this

i personally back in the day i could had 10-12 lineage2 windows open with bots and playing css or tf2 or whatever else

>>59478982
>Why is everybody comparing the 1800X with intels 7700k in gaming?
Because they're comparing the best gaming CPU Intel has to offer with the best gaming CPU AMD has to offer in terms of pure performance. AMD doesn't currently make a CPU better at running games than the 1800X.

>>59480333
So a literal nobody, hence the 1%. Good to know.

>>59479671
>>59479680
>Ryzen buttfucks $1200 6950x

>>59480343
oh yeah i forgot people only play fps and nothing more

>>59480273
What is that knockoff team fortress 2 game anyway?

>>59480376
its tf2 with boobs

really made for sfm porn and nothing more

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When it comes to productivity.... Intel can't. Is Ryzen the death of cuda?

>>59480413
Is that a benchmark designed for fanboys who can't pick the fastest part no matter the brand or what? It doesn't tell me if Ryzen is faster than the i7 or if the 1070 is faster than the RX 480, what kind of retarded benchmark is that?

>>59479950
Vulkan. DX12.

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Why is a Ryzen 480 rig BTFO of an intel 1070 rig?

>>59480478
>muh API
There are alot of benched titles in DX12/Vulkan that still can't utilize Zen properly.
>just wait another 5 years

>>59480210
literally why would you ever want to game on anything other than 640x480 where your reaction time is the slowest response there is?
1080 has way too much latency

>>59480125
Intel's entire lineup and pricing is artificially constructed to jew you as hard as possible, and everyone just kind of sits there and takes it in the ass with no lube. And finally AMD comes up with a way to end this shit, and the only thing that happens is a billion shills and trolls posting retarded 1080p gaming benchmarks and single core workloads for days. This is the fate we deserve.

>>59480333
this
almost everyone I know runs 2+ instances of gaymen, movies, shitty apps like skype, discord, steam, chrome, all at the same time

>>59480537
Average human reaction time is like 200ms IIRC, even if you're super fast at 100ms (unlikely) the input lag should still be way below that if you're playing at 60FPS+ no matter the resolution if you've got a decent setup and not some TV with shitloads of processing to "improve" the image.

>>59480578
nope
0.0000002 ms of 480p is way better than having to use garbage 1080p and above

>>59480506
what titles in Vulkan?

>>59480546
Keep telling yourself that.
Zen is a clusterfuck. First gen tech always is. If you can't wait another year or two and want to show how much of another jewish boot licker you are then buy atleast a cheaper R5 and wait for 2nd gen.

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>>59480578
formula 1 pilots normally have less than 60 ms they have specific training to achieve this

>>59480619
Only problem I can see with Zen is CCX interconnectivity, but that is still miles better than HCC interconnectivity.

>>59480595
Doom and DotA 2. It doesn't matter which API it is but how it is utilized, and currently it is not. And this keeps looking more and more like software can hardly fix.

>>59480619
I plan on getting an R7 1700 some time next year.

>>59480632
I can't wait to see this become the next big thing in eSports faggotry.

>>59479950
It'll happen soon.

>>59480681
>just wait
next decade ain't soon bud' ;)

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Because at the moment Ryzen has a very niche market of being a cpu for streamers. Due to the large amount of cores but idiotic logical layout of the die and abysmal chipset.

Lets talk again when the next generation or server processors come out. Right now if you want to get work done it just shits the bed.

>>59480679
really doubt you will see this because is specific tailored to make your eyes cones being properly aligned so that your peripheral view can be widen ..

schumacher was rumored to be the fastest one having more than 280 hits per minute

>>59480655
Doom really looks to work really well in Vulkan, better than in OpenGL and very close to 6900k

Dota2, indeed is bag of dicks.

>>59480632
But more likely than not you're not a Formula 1 driver nor have you had special training to improve your reaction time. Even if you've got 60ms response time a decent game running at 1080p or even higher will have lower input lag than that.

>>59480762
thats not really the point i dont even know who the fuck started that rumor that a cpu can create input lag on a GAME

>>59480788
I guess it can have a small impact if you're CPU bottlenecked and you get lower FPS because of it.

>>59480695
It'll happen eventually.

>>59480830
Yep, but not anytime soon.

>>59479491
they split the workload
one team always pick up their shift at 1500 UTC

>>That moment you realize that several AAA titles have dropped since the release of the Vulkan API

>>TFW

>>59480863
It's not even really done yet, is it? It still doesn't have multi-GPU support, does it? That was one of the main supposed "advantages" of Vulkan and DX12 other than less CPU overhead and Vulkan doesn't even have it at all.

>>59480974

> It still doesn't have multi-GPU support, does it?

It does now.

>>59480863
That moment you realize they were in production when DX12 and Vulkan were realised. Also Vulkan will not gain traction like DX12 will. However Vulkan did its job, it pushed MS to finally publish DX12

>>59481031
Huh, that's good. I assume there are no games that use it though, are there? Do you know perhaps if there's anything planned, being added to DOOM maybe?

>>59481053

> I assume there are no games that use it though, are there?

Not to my knowledge, support was only added in feb iirc.

>>59481047

Yeah I'm gonna stop you there. Doom was released in May, and BF1 was released Oct of that same year. If anything these more recent AAA titles had more time to add support as well as make use of Vulkan.

>>59481053

We have had an entire year and some change and still nothing.

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>>59481074
DX12 scaling with AMD multi GPU setup. How sweet it is. I can't wait to see Ryzen & Vega running with DX12

>>59481111
Lol, your lack ok knowledge in game development is why I not both to waste my time talking to you.

only another month of this and then it will be 1600x vs 7700k

>hur dur 245$ vs 349$ same performance in games 6 cores 12 threads outside of games blows its doors off.....looks like its time to delid and OC boys!!!!

>>59481132
Bro if you are going to use AMD's top-shit-tier GPU then use NVIDIAs top-god-tier GPU.

When VEGA drops and can match a TITAN XP or 1080TI, then bring your fight.

Also, lets see how this pans out when you do get your R5 CPU's that are actually comparable.

>>59481175
I totally expected games made a year ago to be Ryzen compatible.

>>59481213
>Bro

da fuck?

>>59478982
Because the consumer gaming market is hundreds of times bigger than the consumer production market. 99/100 people don't give a shit about win zip performance because it's not significant for them. If you check most media outlets before ryzens release they were also hyping up the gaming performance more frequently than the production performance.

>>59481074
That's what I thought. I'd like to see how it performs, though now that I think about it I don't even know of any Vulkan-native games (no wrappers and shit) other than DOOM that are either already out or coming out soon. I guess Prey will support it since AMD keeps banging the drum about that game, I wonder if it'll have Vulkan mGPU.

>>59481132
That's pretty shit scaling, 58% isn't amazing at all but I guess it's good for such low res where mGPU doesn't work amazingly anyway. It seems the devs only implemented DX12 mGPU for AMD too, that's pretty fucking shitty considering AotS works just fine with both vendors (and can even combine them) and so does RotTR.

>>59481238

So does that mean 6900k is a fail product then?

>>59481213
VEGA is going to compete against the 1080. Not the XP or Ti. Also the 480 is not top tier.

>>59481132
I thought scaling was supposed to be 100% in DX!"

>>59481224
ths makes sense a nvidia owner of a 2500k 970 that tells people he has a 6950k sli titian XP

>>59481320
>DX!"
dx12*

>>59481273
58% shit scaling vs 0 in the 1060. Then you said it's only for AMD when it's implemented in/by the DX12 api. Just deal with the fact Nvidia and SLi sucks. That's why Nvidia is trying to kill there own SLi technology. AMD was the only ones to start implementing mGpu support across different vendors with Vulkan. By the end of 2017 expect to finally see better multi CPU/GPU support. Ryzen is a multi CPU chip. 4+4 Where is Nvidia and Intel in pushing new technology? Guess who's the more cores meme now.

>>59479341
I actually do and Ryzen still isn't appealing to me. Single-threaded still wins out in encoding due to filters, and if I was going to split things up into multiple encodes for Ryzen I'd just get a dual Xeon E5-2670 system off Ebay for $700 and get twice the performance for less money.

>>59480187
>Why is everybody comparing the 1800X with intels 7700k in gaming?
>in gaming
>gaming

fucking retards on /g/, also never reply to me or my post again

>>59481320
Every game has to be 100% optimised if you wanted a 1 to 1 scale. If your game has a 10% preformanace over head and it duplicated across 2 gpus that would be a 20%(or more) hit in preformanace. You can't blame the API or the hardware if the developer is putting in bad code/mapping/images.

>>59481481
Do you live in your own world inside your head? DX12 mGPU works just fine on NVIDIA, AotS and RotTR use it with no issues no matter the vendor.

>AMD was the only ones to start implementing mGpu support across different vendors with Vulkan
AotS already supports mGPU across vendors in DX12 and it's been literally over a year since that happened. It currently doesn't even exist in Vulkan, not even as a demo. Pull your head out of your ass and have an actual look at what's happening around you.

>By the end of 2017 expect to finally see better multi CPU/GPU support
I'd be very happy to see that, I hope you're right. That being said I doubt mGPU support will improve much because devs have very little incentive to do it. NVIDIA and AMD actually have a reason to care because you buy more of their products, but most devs won't give a shit because implementing mGPU by hand isn't going to make them more money.

>Windows 10 jewed and and ryzen

>I can't wait for Vega and ryzen on dx12

These are actual things amd drones say in the same threads.

Kek

>>59481572
Because it's the only area the 7700k is winning. What I find funny about it is these games and the OS were made before Ryzen was made. Ryzen is also not a traditional cpu architecture. So when someone post the question why is it not running games correctly? Maybe they should look at it the other way. Maybe the CPU is running as created. How about the games is not running in a way to take advantage of a chip that runs like a multi socket CPU 4+4.

>>59481274
The 6900k probably sells fuck all to the consumer production market. It will sell way more to big corporations than individuals who like doing production in their space time. Not even any of these tech you tubers have the 6900k.

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>>59481683
Mantle(Vulkan) was ready for cross GPU support a head of DX12

>>59482036
No it wasn't, it was *planned* to have mGPU support, it did not actually *release* with mGPU support. And there still aren't any games which make use of it, not even some engine tech demo or something, just nothing.

>>59482082
didn't nvidia made it impossible to install drivers if amd drivers are present?

>>59482111
No idea, but cross-vendor DX12 mGPU benchmarks in AotS are out there so clearly it's possible.

>>59481707
>>Windows 10 jewed and and ryzen
This board is 18 and up.

>>59482111
I still have crimson drivers installed on my pc from when I had a 390. I have had no problems installing nvidia drivers at all.

>>59482082
Planned ok you got me on that one.

But when you say they aren't any games to use the technology, yes true but that's not a reason to push it to the side. AMD HBM was near useless but it's a stepping stone to HBM 2. These technologies are needed no matter how little there current impact is.

>>59479510
>cherry picking

So uh, I'm in need of a new CPU for mostly gaming. Should I go for something on the market now or wait a year for better offerings from AMD?

>>59482366
>But when you say they aren't any games to use the technology, yes true but that's not a reason to push it to the side
I don't want to push it aside, I've been using mGPU systems since like 2008, I absolutely want them to improve and proper Vulkan or DX12 use should be able to do that. DX12 mGPU in RotTR is better even at 4K than DX11 SLI, the possibility is there.

That doesn't mean however that I'm blind to the catch-22 that DX12/Vulkan mGPU implementations find themselves in - devs won't invest time in it if few people are using it and most people won't use it if devs don't invest time. Only NVIDIA and AMD can do something about that, by partnering with devs to implement it, doing it themselves and providing the implementation or maybe paying devs to promote new tech. That's pretty shit though.

>>59482512
I honestly don't understand these sort of questions. You either need something or you don't, if you can and are willing to wait an entire year you don't need it.

>>59481278
>VEGA is going to compete against the 1080. Not the XP or Ti

GOOD i fucking hope so, 1080ti is under powered for to last long at 4k in 3 years you will be playing on low settings just to try and stay at 60 fps, and its over kill for 1440p where the 1080 is perfect for so you give me a 1080 at a cheap price now im all over that shit

anyone buying a 1080ti for 4k is a MORON anyone buying a 1080ti for 1440p is a MORON, wait for volta

>>59483387
So I should just get a 1080 non-ti right now then.

>>59478982
shills.

>>59483718
Why you asking me? Get what ever you want.