/vs2017/ - Is Visual Studio still the best IDE?

>>59477021
ÿes, and use it on windows, not like fags that use it on a mac

>>59477021
No, that'd be Jupyter Notebook.

How to crack the ENTERPRISE release?

>>59477021
Does it still force you to download 5GB of shit you'll probably never use?

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Why everything from Microsoft is easy but is hard as hell when you use a bare Linux distro and try to configure it manually?

Damn last time I tried to do "picture related" with a simple Laravel based website on a Debian and I waste almost a day to have something working.

>>59477106
Nah, it's something like 600Mo.

>>59477106
Oh! You still can download all the shits if you want!
https://tpb.proxyduck.co/?load=/torrent/17329196/Visual_Studio_2017_Enterprise

>>59477138
dumb frogposter

>>59477326
frog?

>IDE
fuck off rajesh

>>59477340
You have to be 18 to post on this site.

>>59477355

>t.professional FizzBuzz Engineer

>>59477021
It never was.

>installed vs 2017 enterprise
>fails to migrate project
the fact that that it has to migrate shit almost made me uninstall it again

>>59477021
It never was the best IDE.
If you need an IDE, your language sucks.
The only language that seem to require an IDE is C#, because its compiler is garbage and it needs to reference files in a .csproj file.

For everything else, a terminal and an extensible text editor are the best.

>>59477035
thats not an IDE, it's an interactive REPL. Pretty cool, but not an IDE

>>59477822
>i don't have a job: the post

>>59477021
Spyware compiler

>>59477836
Speak for yourself, 7000$+ monthly here.

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>>59477857
>7000$+
Chump change, 300k+ a year here.

>>59477021
Dont be a fag, install (spac)emacs

>>59477917
good for you, I'm happy with what I've got

>>59477021
When will they port it to Loonix? :(

>>59478105
not gonna happen.
If you need to do C# just use monodevelop. Or try VS code

>>59478105
>>59478276

https://www.jetbrains.com/rider/

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vim + tmux does literally everything vs does and is less than 1gb even with a hit ton of plugins.

VS is 60 gb.

That's because microsoft steals code from open source projects and jams it all together without optimizing it.

>>59478328
>>59478342
this guy fucks

>>59478328
>VS is 60 gb.

When will this meme die?

It wasn't 60gb even when it was bloated.....

>>59478327
cool, even in the AUR, I'll give it a go. Thanks for mentioning it

>>59478395
np, we are here to help each other

>>59478328
i was about to take your addivice and then i realized that you are a go programmer

LMFAO

>>59478404
first impression is fantastic, thanks a lot!

>>59477966
This

>>59477021
> what is codeblocks

>>59478328
>>59478342
but this shit makes you use keyboard constantly

we all know that its faster to use mouse than going over lines one by one until you get where you wanted

>>59478713
Give sam or acme from plan9port a shot.

>>59477021
>>59477106
No, they actually seem to have improved.

>>59477021
In my view, Visual Studio is one of the few programs that I continue using Windows for.

>>59478328
>60GB
BITCHBOY YOU WHAT
It is literally only 2.5GB in the latest release.

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>>59478328
>less than 1GB
Bitch it's like 50MB, mostly plugins

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>>59477462
>Pascal

I'm intrigued, I learned the basics of programming with it years ago, didn't realize there was a modern IDE for it.

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>still no full support for modern C++

eclipse > all

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KDevelop5 > all

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>>59480556
Not even eclipse developers think that. Anyone that has to use Java uses Intellij for a reason

>>59477120
are you fucking retarded?

its fucking 2 lines into nginx conf to make this work

>>59477021
>tfw no WPF for Linux
Mono+winforms was extremely fucked when I tried it. All the form sizes were fucked and all the control and font sizes were fucked.

>>59477462
Holy shit, Delphi is still alive? Who the hell still uses that?

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Vim is king, long live the king.

>>59480118
This is Delphi, it was quite popular in the 90s / early 2000s. It's an IDE developed by Borland that uses a Pascal Object dialect. It used to be the best to develop with winforms until Microsoft hired most of the Borland folks to work on Visual Studio.
Apparently, Delphi has managed to survive to this day. I'm guessing it's mainly used to support legacy software nowadays.

>>59481009
I use it at work and believe me, I love it so far.

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>best IDE
>still can't fully support C++11
Into the trash it goes.

>>59481108
this. vs is for cuckolds.

>>59481498
>reddit
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh567368.aspx

>>59477021
It is so fucking horribly bloated. In Windows I use VS2008 whenever possible because it actually starts in under 5 minutes.

>>59478980
I have faulty middle mouse button aka 'scroll' so its no option. Also interesting idea.

>>59477021
For GUI IDEs:
Geany > Pre-2010 VS > shit > Code::Blocks > Post-2010 VS > Everything else