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>>59468115
Macfag here:

Keyboard fucking sucks.

Overpriced

>>59468115
Awful keyboard.

>>59468115
None. That $1700 personal computer doesn't do anything wrong. It doesn't thermal throttle at all and uses the best software

its not a iMac

>>59468115
>glossy screen
>terrible keyboard
only flaws it has desu, just wait for he anti-apple poorfags to show up with their 1366x768 tn thinkpads

>>59468157
Glossy screen means better colors though

>>59468157
>pointing out the best things about it as flaws

the keyboard fucking metled

Overpriced, overheating, hunk of gay irrelevant shit nobody besides homosexuals use.

>>59468181
>>59468198
if I'm outside or in a bright room, glossy really shows its flaws

plus matte screens don't really mess with colors though if done right

>>59468215
>le overpriced
its not overpriced when you consider it doesn't have a cucked display or terrible battery life
>le apple is gay XDDDD
you sound insecure

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>>59468115
>2006-2015
>trackpad impossible to click near upper edge
>extremely loose near bottom edge
>overall flimsy diving board piece of shit
>even applel admitted it's shit and went back to solid non-click touchpads
>still has no real buttons
>relies on pressure sensitive gimmick bullshit
>if you press too lightly or too hard it does something completely different than what you intended
>shit tier 1mm travel chiclet kb
>OSX is a steaming pile of shit with horrendous battery management
>applel's solution is to cram in a massive heavy 95WHr battery to make up for it
>even XXXTREME GAMER cancer like razer blade with 4X the CPU/GPU power and 70WHr battery matches it in battery life in same tasks
>gets BTFO by 55WHr Yoga 2 in battery life in same tasks
>the battery takes up the space where a cooling system would've been in a laptop not designed by the world's thinnest and lightest gay hipsters
>overheats constantly from abysmal crippled cooling system
>throttles to 800mhz due to chronic overheating problems
>retina meme for "pros" have have <70% aRGB
>gloss mirror coating impossible to use with overhead lighting
>blurry as shit retina meme scaling
>shitbook air even worse with glossy 1366x768 TN eye cancer
>systemic battery explosion problems for over a decade

>2016+
https://9to5mac.com/2016/11/03/2016-macbook-pro-thunderbolt-compatibility-issues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYVjIjBMx6o
>can't use any existing TB3 devices
>can't use USB and wifi at the same time
>ultra shit tier zero travel kb
>keyboard louder than WWII cricket
>memetouch emojibar
>no USB-A
>no escape
>soldered ram
>soldered SSD
>tamper tape on battery screws
>applel falls for their own thin meme and uses 54WH battery
>2 hour battery life

http://www.howtogeek.com/198043/how-to-merge-folders-on-mac-os-x-without-losing-all-your-files-seriously
>it's 2017 and moving files around in finder will STILL cause massive data loss

>macshit is good
Can we finally put an end to this meme?

>>59468268
see
>>59468273

>>59468115
It's not on my desk right now

>>59468115
I can't justify spend $1000 on a facebook browser machine

>>59468240
The screen is really bright though (500 nits). Outside a matte screen will be hard to read anyways if it's not bright.

>>59468268
>its not overpriced when you consider it doesn't have a terrible battery life
they had to remove the battery percentage because of the battery life

>>59468115
Apple's EFI implementation fucking sucks. It's a botched proprietary piece of code that belongs in the trash. It BARELY passed an old EFI standards check.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

>>59468115
Last great Macbook was 2015 rMBP
where tf did my ports go
what happened to magsafe
why apple

>>59468323
Hey now. Just because you don't have a job, doesn't mean others don't too. I spent 2100 on the machine and it's made me upwards of 80k in 2-3 years

>>59468496
>Last great Macbook was 2015 rMBP

But the 2016 one is superior lack of ports and SD card slot aside.

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>>59468496
>2015

>>59468115
where's the mouse buttons anon?

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>>59468522
>2016

>>59468551
like any modern laptop has buttons anyways so thats a lousy argument

>>59468115
Thermal throttling
It can dent
Slow SSD and ram
Can't buy parts
cant legally fix

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>>59468583
>like any modern laptop has buttons anyways

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>>59468273
DELET

>>59468637
thats not a flagship laptop though

>>59468619
>it can dent
At least it's not made of chintzy plastic. If you're worried about denting a computer than you should take better care of it. The SSD is noticeably slower than an iMac's fusion drive SSD, no idea why. But is there any computer out there that doesn't thermally throttle? I'd say it's a lot better than the computer burning on you. You can buy parts. You can legally fix them, but it breaks the warranty.

>>59468619
>cant legally fix
T H I S

>>59468240
The only time that's a problem is if the sun/light is behind you.
The screen gets bright enough that you can easily see it even with some glare.
>>59468273
same shitty copy pasta that only an idiot/anti apple fag would fall for.

>>59468619
>throttling
only an issue on the 2015 15" with the 370x, 2012 retina, and 2011.
>It can dent
so can thinkpads, what's your point?
> Slow SSD
it's literally the fastest consumer grade ssd in the world, what crack are you on
>slow ram
it's 1866 ddr3, it's not that slow.
2133 ddr4 wouldn't be that much faster.
not like you'd even notice the difference.
>Can't buy parts
ebay
you can't buy parts for most normal consumer grade laptops anyways
>cant legally fix
You can. You just aren't supposed to get the schematics for it
and it's not like any other laptop manufacturers just give you the schematic.

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>>59468719
>t. mactoddler

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this entire thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVrQdz_x9hs

>>59468780
>copy pasta that only an idiot/anti apple fag would fall for.
Those are all valid points you filthy sub human apple shill

>>59468157

>plebs like this on /g/ still don't know what the glossy screens on MacBooks have been like for 3 generations

Stick to your fucking T60 you out-of-touch clueless retard.

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>>59469046
>any impact = absorbed and reflected

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>>59468215

>besides homosexuals

Where does this mayme come from? Mac users are all manners of ordinary people. They ship tens of millions of Macs every year, and hundreds of millions of iDevices to the western world. Do you think homosexuals have an interest in computers? Are you an idiot? Linux users are statistically more homosexual than anyone else.

>>59468240

This screen has no problem with being outdoors.

>>59469228
>Linux users are statistically more homosexual than anyone else
[citation needed]

I bought an iMac and I fucking hate it so much. It was way too expensive. Now I'm thinking of selling it at a great loss.

I want to buy a nice guitar but now I can't because I bought this piece of shit. A cheap ass 400$ self built with Linux would basically be the same thing. 2500 CAD for this thing. I don't know what possessed me. I could be rocking a gibson les paul standard for that kind of cash.

>>59468273
/thread

Literally only gullible morons buy Apple trash, or people who literally know nothing about laptops and just buy whatever is popular.

>>59469275
Are you in EU? I will buy it off you if it's in perfect condition

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>>59469228

>>59469267
welp, this explains terry i guess...

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>>59469277
Except it's the best laptop and offers great productivity for anyone even slightly creative

But go on and mess with config settings on your Gentoo, I'm sure you'll feel better about yourself

>>59469322

>interviewed some artsy sluts at uni
>yeah I'm totally bi I like girls and guys xD
>Ok just put homosexual

Have you been outside in real life mate? Or do you get your information on life from little article pieces from 2005?

>>59469385
>throttling overheating housefire trash
>great productivity

>t. mactoddler

retina = glossy

>>59469388
Literally this, urgh, I'm so triggered

>>59469406

>t. TwinkPadder

>>59469434

What are you trying to say?

>>59469267
>>59469322

http://www.out.com/entertainment/popnography/2012/06/26/jon-maddog-hall-comes-out-homosexual-alan-turing-birthday

>Most of us have probably not heard of Jon "Maddog" Hall, the executive director of Linux International.

>Well, the 61-year-old came out today in honor of Alan Turing's birthday.

>In fact, computer science was a haven for homosexuals, trans-sexuals and a lot of other “sexuals”, mostly because the history of the science called for fairly intelligent, modern-thinking people. Many computer companies were the first to enact “diversity” programs, and the USENIX organization had a special interest group that was made up of LGBT people.

>In fact, computer science was a haven for homosexuals, trans-sexuals and a lot of other “sexuals”, mostly because the history of the science called for fairly intelligent, modern-thinking people. Many computer companies were the first to enact “diversity” programs, and the USENIX organization had a special interest group that was made up of LGBT people.

>In fact, computer science was a haven for homosexuals, trans-sexuals and a lot of other “sexuals”, mostly because the history of the science called for fairly intelligent, modern-thinking people. Many computer companies were the first to enact “diversity” programs, and the USENIX organization had a special interest group that was made up of LGBT people.

Get fucked you clueless morons.

LINUX BTFO

>>59469510
>computer science is science
Good one lad

>>59468133
This senpai. It honestly feels like just tapping a flat surface. The touchbar thing is also a meme. Just got myself a 2015 model instead.

I have one of those apple wired keyboards

Which macbook model has a similar keyboard

>>59469636
They're all equally shit.

>>59468115
its Apple.

>>59469560
This. I pre-ordered the 2016 model and cancelled it for the superior 2015 model.

>>59469697
I must be the only person who prefers the 2016 keyboard to the 2015. The 2015 one feels so mushy and the keys are too small. 2016 feels solid.

How cheap can a rMBP 2015 be acquired for

>>59468115
>giant trackpad
>stupid touch bar
>shit keyboard
>shit battery life (apple removed your time remaining indicator lol)
>can't even install gentoo
>windows 10 drivers from apple broke the speakers
>dongles everywhere
>triple the price of other laptops with similar specs
It's the most retarded machine I've ever seen. Literally a fucking fashion accessory. Take it to /fa/, you homo.

>>59468115
it's perfect.

>>59468133
I got used to it after a day. now I can't stand other keyboards. it's superior to all other ones. it's so damn easy to type on and doesn't tire your fingers at all

>>59469727
damn, triple the price? Can you show me a laptop with the same screen, RAM and SSD?

>>59469727

>4 Thunderbolt 3 ports

Enjoy your Acer Aspie or whatever jizzcrust thinkpad you got for $80 off ebay

>>59469805
>nothing else but 4x the most useless port in history
oh the buyer's regret

>>59469777

Apple's laptops have things that can't even be compared to anyone else, that's why the can price things the way they do. Nobody has their trackpads, their screens, their operating system, etc.

>>59469838

>doesn't know the difference between a port and a protocol
>doesn't even know what he's trying to insult

Back to /v/ you fucking retarded skidmark. You're out of your depth.

>>59469777
Here's an even better laptop for half the price of your fagbook: https://www.amazon.com/Dell-XPS9560-7001SLV-PUS-Laptop-Nvidia-GeForce/dp/B01N1Q0M4O/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1489870203&sr=1-2&keywords=dell+xps+15&refinements=p_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A2289792011%2Cp_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A13580790011

>>59469805
I have an X1 Carbon and a custom built desktop. I don't need faggot toys that come with gimmick ports. >>59469838 is right.

>>59469850
>Nobody has their trackpads, their screens, their operating system

>what are custom gestures
>what are normal fucking lcd displays
>what is hackintoshing
Fuck off.

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>>59469850
This. Nobody makes throttling overheating exploding trash like Applel.

>>59469917

>>what are normal fucking lcd displays

>he the 2016 MBP's panel is just a normal LCD display available in any HP

>he isn't even fucking aware of the actual trackpad's Force Touch feature, thinking I'm talking about fucking gestures

>he isn't aware Hackintosh is garbage and the whole point of a Mac is a perfect marriage of hardware and software

Get the fuck out of here you retarded cunt. You have absolutely no idea of what the fuck you're talking about.

>>59468157
It is "glossy" but it has a really good anti-glare coating.

It's not like the Asus Best Buy make up mirrors

>>59469981
>mactoddler calling anyone else retarded

Kill yourself you suck sucking cumguzzling technology illiterate fag.

>>59469917
Can you hackintosh that?

Besides, you do realize that there is no software (on windows) that can allow for similar custom gestures to software like BetterTouchTool, right?

Also that laptop in my country costs actually more than a similarly specced macbook pro. No wonder you murricans get so pissed at Apple products.

>>59470013

>Winjeet poorfag/RAZR sponsored autistic 13 year old calling anyone else retarded

Kill yourself you COCK* sucking cumguzzling technology illiterate fag.

*improve your English, Pajeet

>>59469981
Mbp panels are good but nothing special when compared to other 1080p+ displays
Force touch is a meme and actually a pain in the arse
>hackintosh
Nothing really wrong with hackintosh but I'm not sure why anyone would go out of their way to use osx

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>>59470042
>mactoddler calling someone else cocksucker
lmao @ ur lyfe

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>>59469981
>t. mactoddler

>>59469981
Force touch is stupid. I actually turned it off when I still had a Fagbook "Pro". The displays are not fucking special, you mouth breather.

>he isn't aware Hackintosh is garbage and the whole point of a Mac is a perfect marriage of hardware and software
I'm using Mac OS X on a ChinkPad right now. Hackintoshing it was the most painless thing ever. The hardest part was downloading the tools to create the bootable flash drive. You're an idiot.

>>59470021
>Can you hackintosh that?
Yes.

>Besides, you do realize that there is no software (on windows) that can allow for similar custom gestures to software like BetterTouchTool, right?
That's why you hackintosh, nigger.

>Also that laptop in my country costs actually more than a similarly specced macbook pro. No wonder you murricans get so pissed at Apple products.
Feels good not living in Pajeetland where everything costs a years wages. Work overtime at the call center and buy yourself a better laptop, Rajjeesh.

>>59468115
My 2012 MBP
>keyboard is alright but key travel could be better
>godly trackpad
>IBM style F keys that can be mapped to different shortcuts if needed
>SATA 3
>16 GB RAM limit
>user serviceable with millions of parts and repair guides available online
>compatible with almost any modern OS
>last model that Steve Jobs had involvement in, so it just werks most of the time
>parts upgrades possible which makes it still highly usable in 2017

2016 MBP
>shit keyboard with little key travel (might as well call it a touchboard now)
>touch bar is shit and an unnecessary gimmick
>USB C before it was in wide enough production
>trackpad is turning into shit
>not user serviceable at all, possibly doesn't boot if it detects third party parts
>feels like Apple doesn't give a fuck anymore and is only riding the brand name
>not upgradable at all so it will get significantly outpaced within 2-3 years

My only complaint is that my MBP is 1366x768, but I usually hook it to a monitor when I'm at home.

>>59468273
stale pasta

Vents through the keyboard

>>59470128
>That's why you hackintosh, nigger
Hackintosh alone doesn't do it. You need some decent trackpad drivers, I suppose your X1 Carbon does have some, I'm not sure about the Dell you posted, I have an X220 with hackintosh sitting there with the worst support possible for the little trackpad it has. I actually haven't seen a single different trackpad work with custom gestures on BTT now that you mention it.

>>59470215
>cant refute a single fact from it

>>59470250
My trackpad works great. I rarely use it except for switching workspaces because trackpoints are superior.

>>59468115

1. Overpriced. Profits on them are too high.
2. No touch screen
3. No pen support
4. Keyboard is shit
5. Wifi is shit

>>59470372
Who the f wants a touchscreen on their laptops? Do you want to look at your fingerprints all over the screen?

A fucking iBook G4 has a better keyboard than it

>>59470264
my 2011 15" doesnt throttle to 800mhz

>>59468115
I like my x220 keyboard better

>>59468496
>no magsafe
THIS
WHAT THE FUCK
WHY PLUG IN POWER
WHY NOT KEEP MAGSAFE
FUCK APPLE

>>59470401
cont'd

It throttles to 400Mhz.

>>59469046
Thinkpads aren't made of flubber.

ThinkCucks saw the old ads that showed the laptops "surviving" extreme conditions, and now think that thinkpads are the best laptop's ever made...

>>59470264
>posts the same pasta on every pro/anti mac thread
>gets called out
>attempts to call me out for not getting into cancerous arguments
>continues to shitpost
kys

>>59470095
>early 2016 post
>next model MacBook pro with vastly improved colours came out in late 2016
lel

Also:
>>>>>>performance laptop
nice meme

>>59468115
Internal battery that shits the bed after 2 years or so.
Have to use proprietary screwdriver and somehow find a decent replacement that isn't chink trash in order to have battery life back.

>>59468115
only works well on Apple hardware
not Free as in freedom or Free as in beer

>>59468115
16:10 monitors are fucking sexy.

>>59468718
100% prettier and infinitely more diverse than a shitty white macbook

>>59470687
>only works well on Apple hardware
It works just as well on any other hardware using the same internal chipsets (audio, GFX cards, etc)
Even then almost all Geforce cards are supported with offical Nvidia drivers

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>>59470230

>Vents through the keyboard

Do people here just make anything up they wish, then believe it? Are you fucking dumb? Can't even google something?

>>59469151
half of them are false or just full blown retarded

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Batteries that destroy the case when they fail.

>>59470201
Best post on the thread...Apple used to be good, now they have become shit (i like to blame it on the new ceo)

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>>59470819

>>59470746
They stopped doing the white plastic design in 2008......The XPS is looking good

>>59470746
>white macbook
There hasn't been a single white MacBook pro ever made, they're all metal. I know aesthetics is preferential and opinionated, but your standard HP looked like a matte grey plastic slab until half a dozen years ago, now they're all metallic silver like the MacBooks. I personally don't mind glossy plastic, but matte or textured dark plastic just looks tacky.
>>59470757
Those are the intakes, the hot air comes out in the hinge above the keyboard. It's not technically correct to say that the keyboard ventilates, but I can see how that mistake could be made.
>>59470819
>laptops break when you drop them
Breaking news! If you wanted it to be rugged you'd put a sacrificial silicone sleeve around your laptop, or buy something industrial. How often do you see an iPhone without a case on it? It's like the "phones break when you bend them" thing all over again, Jesus.

>>59470971
>>59470896
i wasn't meaning white as in the colour, i was meaning white as in the design language that just reeks of racial undertones

>>59470819

>How do I into moisture?

>>59471002
They did a black macbook in 2007

>>59470201
Problem is people don't want to buy a thicc-book anymore. I agree that the lack of serviceability and replaceability is a travesty, but the average consumer would rather have something more compact and lighter. That's just the audience apple's style took them to. If only it never appealed to hipsters in the first place. But I'm pretty sure you can put any OS on the latest MacBook pro, I don't think they have any intention of stopping that, but I'm not sure.

>>59471002
I think you mean hipsters.

So when you buy the next iPhone, the one with USB C instead of lightning, will it's cable be USB A on the other end? Or will there be a USB C on both ends? How does the machine know which way to send the electrons, and how do you know which way to plug the cable in?

>>59468115
Your extra chromosome.

>>59470606
Aaaaaaand /thread

>>59468645

Getting any companies brand label tattooed on you should be punishable by death.

>>59471332
Getting any tattoo full-stop is pretty pointless, not to mention a waste of money.

>>59471356

People have the right to waste their money, but willingly turning yourself into a walking advertisement billboard when the company literally gives zero fucks about you is a travesty.

>>59471425
If the tattoo looks good the company might not care, but if it looked like swollen shit and you're some fat neckbeard then the company might sue you for ruining the company image. I wonder if that's ever happened before?

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>>59468115
>it just werks

>>59468115
Overpriced, weak hardware and either a severe lack of ports or a supreme abundance of esoteric ports.

>>59468115
It costs more than 25 dollars

Expensive

>>59470971
That MacBook wasn't dropped?
The op said the battery failing and expanding broke the case, as you can clearly see.

>>59468115
>laptop for "creators"
>keyboard shit
>Fn keys are touch
I don't what kind of "creators" Apple is targeting with this one.

>>59470201
>upgradeable
just the ram and the ssd, basically just like any normal laptop (used to be at least).

its not like parts are worth the trouble. you cant buy a real battery that isnt a $50 knockoff piece of shit. and then when you get a failing gpu like my 2011 has, might as well take it to the gun range and blow it up

>>59472168
Oh, "fail". I misread it as "fall".

>>59472189
The hip crowd's using tablets for blogging anyways these days, I don't think they care about minimal key displacement, and I don't see why anyone should. If you like typing then get a good external keyboard, otherwise deal with it. It's hardly too much worse than the previous model.

As someone who uses graphic design tools, I think having another variable scroll tool is a great idea. The overpriced apple magic mouse is both a mouse and scrollball, and so lets you pan across the image in all directions with ease, without reverting to jerky keyboard shortcuts. Any mouse having detented scrolling is fucking stupid unless you're scrolling through a hotbar. Anyway, the touchpad would be useful for panning through colour palettes, selecting tools, and changing brush sizes in a continuous fashion without having to move the mouse from the work area. If you're not doing video, audio, or graphics editing then it's almost objectively worse than the function keys. In the end it is another thing to go wrong, and the lack of escape key does beg the question as to what shortcut will be used to force quit. I think it would be much more sensible if it was an optional feature for both models, and an available feature for external keyboards.

Looks bland
Big screen bezels
No new festures
Poor I/O options
Same old hackneyed rounded edges design
Overpriced to shit
Infantile pweety OS
Made in China
Looks ghey

>>59468115
>Trackpad so huge you can't rest your palms on the palm rest while typing
>Keyboard is a pile of trash even according to die-hard applel fans
>Marketed for "creators" with severely underpowered specs
>Shitty aluminium chassis dents if you look at it wrongly
>No I/O
>Arguably the touchbar too, though I could see how that would be useful in certain applications
Even Applel fans don't like this thing. How much are you being paid to shill it on /g/ ?

>>59473080
Nice opinions and falsehoods there. Apple is introducing new features, such as the touch gimmickpad, because they're also developing the software that it's to be used with. Screen bezels are a meme, they don't matter that much. Yes shitty I/O. Round corners don't pierce your thigh, in no way are they a bad feature. They are expensive, but that doesn't make the product good or bad. Best looking stock OS out there my friend. Everything's made in china, something about economies of scale, you know.

>>59473210
Is the new aluminium chassis weaker then the previous one? Because my early 2015 model feels really sturdy. It's got a few superficial scratches, but the chassis itself hasn't deformed. There are some times I'd quite like a much larger trackpad, but I don't think sacrificing hand rest positions is worth doing it.

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>>59468115
The fucking price

>>59468115
I'm going to buy a macbook pro and there is LITERALLY nothing /g/ can do about it

>>59473313
>Is the new aluminium chassis weaker then the previous one?
Probably not. The problem with these aluminium chassis in general is that they're too rigid. It's not a good quality to have in a laptop, or a phone for that matter.
It "feels" sturdy because it doesn't flex if you try to bend it, but all this really tells you is that the metal is less likely to absorb the impact in case you drop your laptop, thus making the force of the impact go straight to the internals.
There should be a certain amount of flexing if you try to bend your laptop a little. It shouldn't bend all over the place like a piece of soft rubber, but it shouldn't be so rigid that it cannot bend even a little without deforming either.

There are few laptops with an actually good chassis on the market today. That cheap ass Acer machine that skimps on everything and uses trash quality plastic with no reinforcement isn't one of them, but neither is your 2000 dollar aluminium macbook.

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>>59473597
That's why I think more things like pic related should be used. It's the same with carrying a cellphone about without a case on it, fucking stupid.

>>59473642
No, you know what's fucking stupid ?
Needing those things in the first place.

>>59469046
/thread

>>59468115
no ports.

It comes with macOS.

>>59473656
It's simply far more cost effective to use a sacrificial shell than building the entire thing to be drop-proof for two metres. I don't know what kind of phone you have, but I bet you wouldn't trust it to be dropped out a window a metre onto concrete. Same goes for any laptop. If everything was built to industrial wear standards you'd still have to replace the damaged proprietary hard casing for a couple of hundred dollars instead of just replacing the case for forty. It's common sense.

Apple has a fancy gayish appearance for a starbucks for a hipster and nothing more that can beat Linux/Android in efficiency and flexibility for a techie.

Even if I was tolerant to gays and wanted to own this shit, I wouldn't do it anyway because I need to learn CUDA and to train neural networks using an nVidia.

It's better to buy this laptop.
https://www.asus.com/Notebooks/ASUS-Zenbook-UX310UQ/

>>59473935
Why even buy a laptop if you need graphics performance? I assume you've got reasons, but nothing beats a custom-built desktop for raw processing power and cost effectiveness.

>>59473935
If you want/need a workstation, get a workstation, not a consumer-grade laptop.

>>59470095
I have this laptop.
The touch pad sucks ass.

>>59474221
You mean touchscreen or trackpad? It doesn't look like it has a touchpad.

>>59473927
Actually, I would trust my phone to survive a 1 meter drop onto concrete.
1.5 meters would most probably be fine too, so long as it doesn't land with the screen facing down right on top of a rock.
2 meters meters would probably be pushing it.

I use a Lumia 950. It has a plastic clip-on back, much like the cases you buy to protect your phone. It saddens me greatly that I likely won't be able to find a phone with similar hardware/design once I replace it.

>>59468115
Too much graphics power for a lightweight laptop, typically this size would have just integrated

>>59473642
fucking kill me you need a case for a laptop which is in essence a case

>>59474508
why is windows phone the best in hardware fug

Why aren't we in a society where we can build our own laptops yet?

>>59474957

No standardization and suppliers making things. The idea would be nice but it requires massive collaboration between many, many people and companies. Its easier for PCs because there's a box box to put everything in. Laptops have millimeter tolerances.

4 different people making a motherboard, trackpad unit, palm rest and bottom housing, to be used in many configurations with other parts, actually fitting and working? Its impossible.

You're a fucking retard.

>>59468115
Glossy screen is the absolute worst thing about it.

>>59469560
Did the same, got the 2015 model.

I think the touchbar looks like a neat idea, but I'll just wait for the tech to mature, especially how the apps take advantage of it.

I actually also considered one of the high-res T series Thinkpads, but there's no way I'm buying a much bulkier laptop with not as good resolution and a much worse touchpad when I can get the MacBook Pro for roughly the same price (Thinkpads are clearly the overpriced ones here). Stil, would have been nice with a matte screen and a clit, although the clit is only useful because the Synaptics touchpads are unusable.

>>59474752
It is integrated, Intel Iris 550.

>>59475100
Is the glossy screen a problem for outdoors / high light areas? because I can't see it being a problem indoors with my basement-tier lighting.

>>59468181
This is a myth.

>>59475100

You've never seen any rMBPs in person, have you? Its the same fucking response from every shut-in on this board. You don't know anything about anything past 2008 because you don't go outside.

>>59475087
>You're a fucking retard.
No, the companies are, asshole.

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Ok this is either stupid or genius. I guess there's some sort of charging hierarchy between devices so the wall adapter (that this is meant to plug in to) charges the laptop and the laptop charges a phone, but if you plugged one laptop into another could you charge one from the other? I kind of liked having one plug for input and one plug for output when it came to USB power, but I guess this makes data transfer between a phone and a hard-drive much easier. Will USB-C be the only USB ever needed?

>>59475236

It is impossible to make it work outside of your retarded faggot cunt 14 year old brain. Neck yourself.

>>59475242
I mean, the phone companies all miraculously started using the same charging cable, who knows what will happen! It will take some time to invent a system that's flexible enough to be adapted by all laptop sizes and all the companies that make them, but I can easily see it happening within a century of reaching maximum electrical computer density.

>>59468115
I don't have one.

I've seen refurbished ones appear now, that fall squarely in the "what i'd pay for it" ballpark.

Really tempting now

>>59475164
>Is the glossy screen a problem for outdoors / high light areas? because I can't see it being a problem indoors with my basement-tier lighting.

I keep seeing a reflection of the ceiling fluorescent lights. Problem is I share an office, so I can't exactly turn them off and force everyone to live with basement-tier lighting.

>>59475209
>You've never seen any rMBPs in person, have you?

I use one every day. Try reading the post before replying.

>>59469510
Alan Turing is a treacherous nigger. While Rejewski popped Enigma's cherry, Turing was trying out his new bad-dragon toy and scheming how he can steal someone else's achievement. Also brits are inferior to everyone.

>>59468115
Trackpad feels like it doesn't even move.

>>59474823
I don't know, man. The 950's hardware is everything I could ask for in a phone, but the software is lacking in many regards even ignoring the whole "muh apps" issue.

>>59475240
>Will USB-C be the only USB ever needed?
USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 has the capability of being the only port ever needed. You can even send a displayport or HDMI signal passively over USB-C.
It'll be many years before we start seeing USB-C on absolutely everything, though.

>>59475426
Change your viewing angle or use more diffuse lighting, but a MacBook really isn't that much of a professional computer, especially for linking up to mega-servers and remote desktopping and other network things.

>>59476085
Can't wait.

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>>59468115
The ports and the lack of an SD card reader

>>59468115
Can be beaten easily by a 200$ chromebook by acer

>>59476514
>chromebook
Those things feel like shit to type or do anything on, they're built so much down to a budget it's not even funny. Not to mention far inferior hardware specs. Are those things even 64 bit?

>>59468115
It's made by Applel

>>59468115
Can you move the dock to the left side?

What's the regular amount of ports laptops have nowadays? Are there laptops with at least 3 usb ports and 1 ethernet port? Where can I find them?

>>59468157
Uhh my thinkpad has a 1080p screen with higher color gamut than the MacBook :^)

It also weights less than one

>>59476736
bet it has a pentium 4 though

it doesn't come with Windows 10 preinstalled.

>>59476631
Yes.

So what's a good laptop that I can also play games on, but with a good battery life when I don't? Also, is touchscreen on laptops mandatory, are there any without, and can you disable it to save battery life? My budget would be around 1200, if that's even possible.

If I want to do office work, but also gaming, should I go for asus rog g750, or lenovo legion y520? Are these laptops a meme, and should I go for a different one?

>>59469510
What rigorous and well cited studies you have

>>59473386

why are thinkpad users such cucks? i mean just look at this pic, his wife's son

WIFE'S SON

>>59468115
no trackpoint

>>59468115

gdb is fucked
lldb is shit
valgrind is fucked
system integrity is annoying

makes it hard to do anything low level
brew is getting worse as time goes on

bsd utils don't have the compatibility that i'd like, some build scripts aren't compatible this way

..i don't think my next computer will be a mac

>>59476757
Kaby lake actually :^)

>>59477014
pls respond

>>59477014
You should get a low-powered ultrabook for your office work and a desktop for your gayming.

>>59468115
Glossy screen
Shit keyboard
16:9 aspect ratio (Fool's Golden Ratio)
Shit trackpad
Shit OS
Poor user servicability
Poor durability
Overly priced

>>59478290
I will be working in europe for roughly 2 months, and I can't take my desktop with me, since I'll be mostly staying in different countries.

>>59478332
>16:9 aspect ratio (Fool's Golden Ratio)

:^)))))))

>>59478335
Then get whatever thin and light gayming laptop that has a GTX 1060 in it.

>>59478335
Sager/System76 make some pretty gud workstation laptops.

>>59478365
>generic rebranded chink shit Clevo OEM
>"""workstation"""

>>59478347
1.78 is not the Golden ratio. The closest thing we have currently is 16:10

>>59478376
>I don't know how custom laptops work
Shiggy, I will gladly take my dual 1080s and 7700k AND 2TB NVMe SSD for $10000 and go then.

>>59478383
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Pro#Technical_specifications_4

>13.3”, 2,560 × 1,600 (16:10), 227 ppi with Wide colour (P3) gamut, 500-nits[160] (13")
>15.4”, 2,880 × 1,800 (16:10), 220 ppi with Wide colour (P3) gamut, 500-nits brightness (15”)
>16:10

try harder please

>>59478361
I don't mind if it's bulky, but I do value battery life, sadly, I have no idea what laptops are good, since all I even used was the ones that were for work.

>>59478365
What's the price? I have roughly 1200-1400 to spend.

>>59468115
The price
The specs
The OS

>>59478411
>all with a shit plastic chassis built down to the cheapest price, with the shittiest keyboard and trackpad

>>59478438
>Shittiest trackpad and keyboard
At least the trackpad has physical buttons.

>>59478428
Go to their sites and check

>>59478438
>>Plastic chassis
>Onyx Pro is aluminum chassis

>>59468115
Keyboard.
Ports.
Price.
Colour.

>>59478502
and so does every single real workstation from dell, hp and lenovo

>>59468115
Price - Spec Ratio

>>59478533
Well yeah, but I don't know which are good and which aren't.

>>59478644
"aluminium chassis"

Bolting on some shitty aluminium panels is for visual effect, if you look inside, it's Acer tier plastic that provides the structural integrity for the lapto.

>>59468115
Fukken KEK.

...you WERE joking, right?

>>59478650
>Moving the goalposts or whatever
I thought this was an everyone vs Macbook scenario. If a dell appeals to you, get a dell. Same with Lenovo, to an extent. HP is ok, but less advisable than the aforementioned laptops.

>>59478688
Serval is OK, Onyx Pro is probably what youre looking for at the pricepoint described.
Bonobo can go up to over 10 grand with a lot of bells and whistles.

>>59478690
Post proofs.

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>>59478703
HP ZBooks are based, they are replacing ThinkPads on the ISS.

Sadly with Clevo OEM laptops, there's a reason why they provide better specs at a lower price, they really skimp on the chassis.

>>59478422
Huh. Didn't know that Apple actually chose God's Great Aspect Ratio for their new laptops. Gotta give them that one.

>>59468136

not true, I typed on one its actually quite nice.

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>>59478782
See how the components are screwed down to the plastic midframe

>>59478811
I see no plastic midframe, only painted alumium.

>>59468273

most of the issues you listed were fixed in updates retard

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>>59478811
Since there's so much flex, they put a thin metal plate behind the keyboard to try and give a solid platform for the keyboard.

See how the "aluminium construction" is a thin sheet of aluminium designed to give a more "premium feel". Apple pulled the same trick with the titanium Powerbooks

>>59478823
>Updates
Wot. Most of those things are hardware issues

>>59468115
It seems to have a shitty shift key

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>>59478822
No, it's plastic. See how Acer uses the same type of plastic construction.

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>>59470064

fucking baby boomers, get with the times

>>59468115
keyboard is awful
t. mac user

>>59478869
O-ok, delusional mactoddler. I own one and the aluminum is not just bolted on, the body (which you posted of the acer) is full aluminum.

>>59478839
>XMG
Literally who

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>>59478907
I don't own a Mac. Just saying that you get what you pay for with Clevo - great specs, shit build quality.

You can clearly see the 7 resin identification code on the Acer chassis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resin_identification_code#Table_of_resin_codes

If Clevo used a magnesium alloy rollcage (like this Dell M7710), or CNC aluminium chassis, it would simply be too expsneive.

>>59478929
Another Clevo rebrand.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-XMG-P507-Clevo-P651HS-G-Notebook-Review.193074.0.html

>>59478942
>Dell M7710
A respectable laptop. Unlike Acer. And >>59478954 (XMG). System76 is pretty solid still.

>>59479002
Clevo is a Taiwanese manufacturer of whitebox laptops, System76 and XMG buy the same laptop from Clevo, they just slap a different logo on the laptop with some minor design tweaks.

Compare this: https://system76.com/laptops/oryx

to the XMG - it's the same laptop chassis

>>59469275
Why do you hate it?

>>59468115
The touchpad

>>59468115
macshitOS

https://faxtech.blogspot.com/2016/10/apple-copying-worst-feature-of-windows.html

>>59476736
>1080p
top lel

>>59470812
...still waiting for that proof.

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>>59468115
>ports
>touchpad
>no magsafe
>no jobs undeniable charisma
D O A
O
A

>>59468115
>Here's your (You)

>>59480222
>https://faxtech.blogspot.com/2016/10/apple-copying-worst-feature-of-windows.html
Automated download and automated installation are two different things. At worst the MacBook is wasting some of your bandwidth and battery's life, but it requires your authentication to install. As long as it starts downloading when you're not downloading anything else, I don't see a particularly big issue. It's not like macOS Sierra is objectively worse than the previous operating systems or anything, I wonder which technology giant could even think of doing that?

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>>59468115
>shit keyboard
>xbox-hueg goober trackpad
>dongles required for errything
>marketed to mongs

Enjoy your shitheap.

>>59482950
>xbox-hueg goober trackpad
What did he mean by this?

>>59470606
You still haven't provided a single argument refuting anything.

>>59468135

This

I don't own one.

>>59481346
I repllied last time he made that shitty copy pasta
it was on an external link that I had to break up because it was getting late and I forgot pastebins name

>>59476418
>Change your viewing angle or use more diffuse lighting
But that's precisely the problem. I don't have to deal with that with my old MBP that I use at home.

>but a MacBook really isn't that much of a professional computer, especially for linking up to mega-servers and remote desktopping and other network things
Not sure what that has to do with anything. These aren't exceptional applications that require any exotic hardware. Even the flimsy $200 laptops you get at the big box stores can "link up to mega-servers" just fine.

>>59485386
Well from my experience it's easier when all your PCs are running the same OS, it means you can just run the same install script to get all the programs on everything, and it's the same process to install printer drivers etc. for the lot. Put another OS on it sure, but then you're being ripped off for having to buy another OS and not using the OS you technically paid for.