daily reminder

>>59462992
The 7700k is slower at compiling kernels though, which is all that /g/ cares about.

>>59462992
Like you could afford a $350 part anyway, Pajeet. What is that 4 years of wages for you?

>>59463001
I have my PC setup to continuously build kernels. Its great!

I'd consider buying AMD if they had linux support as good as Intel. Right now there is literally no reason to buy AMD unironically.

The 1800x competes with 6900k not the 7700k...

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Reminder

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>Comparing 1800x with 7700k

>>59463081
>giving a fuck about scheduler-bound benchmarks
>windows

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>>59463109
>Productivity doesn't matter

>>59463128
>gamers

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>>59462992
Reminder every other website on planet earth disagrees and 1700 is faster 7700k and cheaper.

also ryzen is only going to get faster with faster memory

>the city of OP

>>59463081
Fallout 4 faggot, ever heard of it?

>>59463062
What Linux support do you speak of?

>>59463068
>>59463090

this

>>59463149

>posting german shit as if we can understand

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>>59463153
>Not knowing that AMD is working with development studios to help them optimise games for ryzen

>>59463162

Company                Changes    Percent of total
Intel                  14,384     12.9%
Red Hat                 8,987      8.0%
None                    8,571      7.7%
Unknown                 7,582      6.8%
Linaro                  4,515      4.0%
Samsung                 4,338      3.9%
SUSE                    3,619      3.2%
IBM                     2,995      2.7%
Consultants             2,938      2.6%
Renesas Electronics     2,239      2.0%

>>59463149
Sorry anon, but I don't speak nazi.

>>59463149
Retard shill!

>>59463185
Intel contributes more to the kernel, but that doesn't mean it lacks AMD support, lol.

>>59463185

don't you think it's because intel has more resources to make shit like this happen? i'm pretty sure amd support for linux is good.

>>59463185
You have never used a brand new Intel processor on Linux, have you?

>shit software
My workloads are so parallel they can distribute across multiple computers. Give me 100 cores I'll use them all.

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Eat shit shill.

>>59463223
Nothing uses 100 cores faggot, even Xeons go up to 22 only

>>59463260
>>59463184
>>59463149
>>59463128
>still loses

>>59463223
>100
Babby's first distributed computing

>>59463280
>within 5% difference
>1/2 the price
I'd say Intel's the loser here.

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>>59463280
>half the price
>beats the 6900k in many things
>draws less power

Tell me how is loses.

>>59463352
>STILL SLOWER THAN INTEL

>>59463352
Nobody gives a shit about windows benchmarks. It's obvious that the windows kernel can't handle high-end processors because of the 7700 results.

>>59463378
>$500 8 core vs $1200 10 core
I-INTEL WINS

>>59463149
.t Hans XII the Cucked

>>59463405
He posted a german site, not a Swede or American one.

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>>59463378
In bound cherry picking.

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>7700k winning in some tests barely
>launch a web browser while testing
>perform cuts in half
>ryzen keeps going same as before
i'm sure if all you do all day is run benchmarks then 4 cores is enough, not if you actually use you're a pc. i plan on having several programs being used simultaneously as most people who know how to use a pc do.

>>59463430
We get it Abdul. They pay you loads of euros over there.

>>59462992
Why are you comparing a 6 & 8 core cpu to a 4 core factory overclocked chip? Are you a shill?

>>59463430
Germany is about en-par with Sweden and the UK in terms of cuckedness

>>59463483
>INTEL 4 CORE FASTER THAN AMD 8 CORE!!


LOL

>>59463491
>The uk voted to leave the EU
>cuck

explain.

>>59463491
I wish

>>59463352
do not use benchmarks that have nothing to do with real performance
you should only show x264/handbrake, photoshop, premiere, blender, 3dsmax, shit that people actually use
and with games, don't ignore these that work like shit on ryzen, it makes you look ridiculous
also we need more tests with disabled cores on ryzen

>>59463507
>INTEL 8 CORE SLOWER THAN INTEL 4 CORE

Really loads your positronic net

>>59463512
Voted to leave only to basically still agree with all treaties without being an official member.

The amount of sandpeople in London is basically the same as in Paris or Berlin if you've ever been there

>>59463512
a bit too late m8

>>59463400
$1700$* FTFY

In a month we went from "why don't you buy a xeon or 6900k for work? are you poor?" to "nobody ever uses more than 4 cores, those three dozen Xeon SKUs are there to look pretty"

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They're working on fixes a-as we speak.

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>>59463530

see
>>59463260
>>59463184
>>59463128
>>59463081

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>>59463383
>just discard everything

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>just wait

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>>59463628
Pointless crap benchmarks.

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>>59463465

>>59463628
one of these is cinebench

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A bit less FPS dun matter cos muh cores.
>like most would benefit

>>59463711
>the tearing
I might not agree with your cartoon but that still gave me a kek

AMD is fucking crap! Die shit poo company!

>>59462992
tpu uses 2133mhz on ryzen while having a 7700k on 3000mhz

sure its fair

>>59463742
BUTTHURT!

>>59462992
But wasn't the 7700k over 20% faster in gaming 10 days ago?

>>59463677
I forgot fallout 4 was the staple benchmark for cpu performance.

>>59463759
>speaks out on the truth

BUTTHURT

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Fuck, you idiots! You'll make me lose my shares and make me homeless.

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Damn, the infinity fabric CCX issues really made me less wanting to go for a Zen.

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>>59462992
Mhmm.

If you buy a 1800x over a 1700 then you're an idiot. You're paying $200 for 100Mhz AT MOST, probably not even that.

>>59463711
holy shit LOL

>>59463821
Nobody cares poorfag retard! Fuck you Intel real cores > AMD fake cores

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>>59463819
Don't worry they'll fix it. Eventually.

>>59463821
so it consumes 26% more power only to provide 10% more of perfomance for 11% lower price

no wonder why shills are out in force

>>59463845
>intel "real" cores use 30% more power for 10% more performance at 2007-tier resolutions and half of that performance at 1440p

Great architecture, Intel, I'm so glad to see Intel sacrifice the mobile, server, office and embeded market for the gaming one :P

>>59463821
So Intel is the housefires now? No wonder there's total panic in the Intel camp now.

AYYMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

>>59463872
Hello r/amd ;]

>>59463842
not really everyone was saying that the chips were thermally bounded on oc and we learned that the mobos were reading the temp wrong almost at +20c...

we dont know its limit

What was the price of the 7700k before Ryzen was released?

AYYMAD IS FUCKING OWNED

>>59463906
It doesn't take a reddit cuck to know that only the gaming market has a boner for high clocks, for every other market it's counterproductive due to the way voltage scales quadratically.
And these markets generally care about TCO more than anything else.

>>59463081
Holy Shittttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

>>59463938
Alright, greetings r/ayymd, as well!

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>>59463966

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>>59463685
As a 3570k owner it's really maddening not being able to have a few streams open on multitwitch while playing a game smoothly at the same time. Throw in discord and whatever other clients you may have and you can forge about gayming with that 4 core piece of shit. No issues with Ryzen thanks to 16 threads.

>>59464066
>AMD wins in unrealistic situations

>>59464092
>has to disable everything but the game process so his game stutters less.

The life of a Intelfag.

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>>59464092
>he bought a thousand dollar 1080p console port machine

>>59464092
>having only windows and one game installed is realistic
>using a browser, chat and playing a game at the same time isn't

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>>59463907
What do you mean we don't know its limit? We sure do. There's a wall a 3.9Ghz regardless of what CPU. It has little at all to do with thermals. People can get to 4.2 MAX and that's with stupid voltages past 1.5. Realistically you're going to get 3.9 or 4.0 regardless. You might get lucky and get 4.1 at most with reasonable voltages on a golden chip.

>>59464180
It's not and you're retarded

>>59463677
Devs need to adjust programs to use AMDs split CCX units.

Fallout 4 was only using 1/2 the CPU at that time.

Win10 runs slower than Win7 on Ryzen chips because of the same issue.

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>>59464226
Now we need to worry about CCX on top of proper core utilization. Awesome.

>>59464263
Intel wins by AMD shooting themselves yet again rofl

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>>59464197
>nobody on /g/ uses multi monitor setups or multitasks

>>59462992
>techpooinloo
REVIEWS NEED TO BE FAIR

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>>59464226
>just wait

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>>59464226
>>59464263
>>59464287
B-but Keller.. H-he delivered.. FUCK

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>>59464226
Actually objective tests has shown that overall Win 10 is faster even when configured suboptimally. There are instances where 7 performs oddly a lot better. These are few and far between and they amount to overall still being slower than 10. And the good news is that going forward, devs can leverage this trade off to be a pure advantage. So it's a small trade off at worst and a big advantage at best.

>>59463677
>Gaymang benchmarks

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Muh Intel.

Bumparoo

Best mainboard for high end Ryzen build? I keep hearing about issues with the Asus ROG?

>>59467004
I would advise against it.
DF just released video and the conclusions are

>windows doesn't scale across 8 cores
>windows doesn't care if you have 6 or 8 cores it gives you same performance
How is this allowed I dont know.

>>59463378

You cannot be this dumb.

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>>59467029
DF? link?

should I feel the regret now or later?

>>59467087
Something very strange is going on with Windows core utilization,windows versions,usage of SMT,motherboard bios and DDR4 compatibility.
All these factors pile up on each other and effectively gimping performance compared to intel.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TId-OrXWuOE

>>59463001
Compiling kernels and re-encoding 4k hentai

>>59463821
"Well I paid $150 more and am getting 15 less FPS in this game but I'm saving $0.002 per hour in electricity, sure am happy I went with AMD" - No one in the history of mankind

>>59462992
Kill yourself back to /v/

>>59463491

t. American retard that knows nothing about European geopolitics

>>59464902
This.

>Goes toe to toe with Intel 6900K which is what AMD were aiming for at half the price.
>Sometimes even beats Intels fastest CPU
Retard gamers only post benchmarks of games and shitty Adobe Photopoop comparing it to a 7700K which is squarely aimed at gamers and generalized desktop use (Not content creators and people who need real productivity).

It really makes you wonder what goes through that mush gamers call a brain.

https://twitter.com/CPCHardware/status/843105726298054656

>>59467087
I feel so so sorry for you. Never adopt early/new hardware.

>>59467087
>buyer's remorse sets in
Priceless. But I do pitty you.

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>>59462992
daily reminder

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>>59467029
>>59467143
/thread
I would either:
>just wait
Or rule out the first generation of Zen completely.

>>59467087
What was your previous setup?

>>59468193
>inb4 le ryzen doesn't support high frequency memory

only on anus boards

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>>59467029
And r/amd shat on their review as well. Makes you... Itchy inside. They literally turned into buzzfeed.
>101 reasons why you should get a risen
>inb4 wah wah plebit user

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>>59463149
>81% Ryzen 1700
>82% i7-7700k

>i-it's f-faster guys, I s-swear!

>>59468389
Nearly the same price and within 1% of each other. 1700 has lower power usage and more cores though.

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>>59468350
B-but you won't notice the FPS difference goy, it's smoother!

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>>59468264
You mean current setup? pic related

>>59468481
Could've waited atleast 'till Vega desu. If you can't return it's fine too.

>>59468449
That was Windows productive software overall benchmark only.

Add in the gayming benchmark and the i7-7700k still reigns superior.

Yes, yes, you can overclock the 1700.
But with going over 1.2V, the power consumptions bursts to 160W+

So much for efficiency in order to match up with the performance of the 7700k.

>>59462992
that you have autism

I am waiting for the 11th April and laugh at all the people who have been hyping the R5 cpus.

Also laughing at the people who firmly believe that some microcode update, patch or whatever will improve the performance of their CPU, while AMD clearly have stated that it is up to the software developer to get out more performance out of their CPU.

And guess what?
The majority of people still use 2 cores only, meaning it would be dumb for software developers to optimize for more cores and thus piss off the majority.

>>59463405
fuck you faggot, get in the gas chambers

>>59467087
No you did well, fastest cpu, fastest ssd, poorfags mirin

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>>59463559
>mfw I buy 5 1700's for the price of one 6950x

>>59463081
Because anyone here seriously uses premiere -_-

>>59468513
still haven't decided on GPU

>>59468674
>w-why do you do work on your CPU! It's only meant for p-playing games!

>>59468674
I do

>>59468714
If you're going budget wait for AMD's supposed 500 rebrand of cards otherwise wait for Vega or just get a high-end Nvidia card if you can't wait that long.

>>59468209
Something fishy is going on here considering the punch of the processor in any other scenario is more than enough to deliver.

>>59468752
What concerns me is that AMD won't work more than with developers and that MS won't deliver some optimizations. So I too would advise to skip Zen and wait for its second iteration, if you do really need/think Moar cores are necessary then grab one needlessly now.

>>59468574
My condolences. I just heard this morning from the town's Islamic priest that your wife and daughter had simultaneous Intercourse with Mehmet and his hoard of camels. Your continued erection gives me concern however.

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>>59462992
>>59463677
>muh cherrypicked games
>muh Photoshop

Literally a processor for manchildren and useless art degree majors.

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>>59463153

>>59468971
please buy intel

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>>59468971

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>>59469639
At least post the good version

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>>59469695
It's been posted before.

>>59469695
>At least post the jewish version
ftfy

now back to /v/ where people will fall for your shilling

>>59469830
And here we have a perfect example of a fossil from RedTeam+, it has aged but not forgotten to shill.

>>59464066

as a former i5 3570k owner I sympathize. Running a game and doing other shit on the side while waiting for match making was a strain. Now I can do anything I want and I can software encode my recordings.

>>59469863
t. shlomo

>>>/v/

>>59470096
Change your RedTeam+ "swag" grandpa, you start to smell just like your donkey that you call a 'PC'.

>>59470124
seriously, if you want to shill intel and earn your commission on products sold you will have better luck on /v/, im just trying to help

Will the Ryzen prices drop any time soon?

Eying a 1700 to upgrade my 2500K for muh VMs but not before it hits 250-300$

Im building a full amd rig this summer because fuck intel

>>59469886
I still have and use the 3570k in my desktop for jerking off and playing games. What the hell were you doing to bottleneck the thing because I haven't been able to do so yet.

>>59470486
its already pretty much close to $300

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B06WP5YCX6/ref=olp_twister_child?ie=UTF8&mv_style_name=0

>>59468193
the goyim know... shut it down.

>>59470526
That's basically my thought as well, I'll sacrifice a little performance to help Intel's only competitor, we've all seen what happens when there is no competition.

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>>59463821
POR FAVOR ELIMINALO

>>59463971
sauce?

>>59462992
It doesn't really matter if the benchmarks say one thing or another. I always build machines with Intel and nvida because AMD has quality and compatibility issues.

>>59472987
>AMD has quality and compatibility issues.

I've only ever used AMD and while I'm willing to agree that they aren't always the better performers, I'm not sure what you mean by this?

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>>59469695
>>59469863
Fuck off you cunt, the original(my OC) is better

>>59463081
tfw I render shit & gayme at the same time

obvious choice is obvious

>>59463180
it says overall applications

learn to not be an idiot

>>59464902
damn that 6900K is cheap there

>>59473199
lol sure ya do

>>59468193
>>59468269
ryzen supports 2666 and intel supports 2400 memory

the current limit to this is some motherboards (mostly asus ones) have garbage bios that goes full /v/ when trying to do voltages and fucks everything up

once this is fixed, it'll be easy competition.

memory clocks do more for ryzen than they do for intel

>>59463260
its almost like AMD made a cpu that excels at
Handbrake
7zip
Cinebench

Its not a cpu for gamers
Its not a cpu for workstation
Its a cpu for syntetic benchmarks, and yet it fails on real load benchmarks

>>59473256
>YOU CAN'T BECAUSE I SAID SO
Just because you can't multitask doesnt mean others cant

>>59468613
why is amada so cute

>>59463262
Good thing based Naples is coming with 32 cores and octa-channel memory to deliver us from this hell.

>>59473256
Yea I do, it's not so hard.. click render and go gayme while it does it's shit

you retarded?

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>>59473338
look, not all of us can afford more than four cores you fucking capitalist pig

>>59462992
Daily reminder that you are beyond retarded

>>59463218
Not him and I never have but the Intel graphics drivers are fully open source and not half assed like AMD ones.

>>59463062
Wendell has stated that the GNU/Linux performance is great

>>59473354
BUY AN I3 MAN YOU GET 2 MORE FPS!!!!!!!!!

>>59463062
AMD contributed lots of code to the kernel before zen came out

I desperately want the underdog to win. I deeply loathe the tech giants (Intel, Microsoft, Apple, Google, Facebook, etc). I would be enormously pleased if AMD would curb stomp Intel. However, AMD has not arrived at that point just yet. As such I am, begrudgingly, an owner of an i7-7700k.

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>>59462992
> Cherry picked an article reflecting gaming performance
> Muh gaming performance is no.1one!!~one!111!!

Not using a computer for your own work, but instead, just gaming is pleb tire.

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>>59473630
That guy has a nice dick

>tfw cut

>>59473256
>what is being a very famous jewtuber that makes videos on a very obscure game

>>59463128
>synthetic benchmark
>"productivity"
Kek you AMD people...

>>59464469
.........how
You're just making claims and saying words without subtlstnatiating anything
>yeah it's shit but muh leverage cat.jpg

>>59473864
back to the gas chambers shlomo

>>59473630

>blue board

>>59473917
shut up retard

>>59468389
if it's only 1% slower that means it's going to be a fuckload faster when you actually do anything thanks to the 16 threads you mongoloid. it also will be faster with faster memory.

game benchmarks are the ONLY benchmarks that matter guys

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>>59463352
>>59463318

>>59463530
>/g/ if for gayming only
>people on /g/, who mostly use fucking Linux, don't ever use productivity software
>>>/v/

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>already sub $300

p-please buy

>>59474661
>americans manipulated by media

nothing new to see, I can't find it here

>>59474661
Lucky dogs, 1700 is sold out everywhere at costs 390Euros around here.

>>59474759

because no one in the usa wants it. 7700k is still the best selling cpu on newegg and amazon.

>>59474824
>Muritards
>smart
they are literally the definition of consumerist cucks

>>59464193
thats a thermal limit but we know that the mobos arent reading the temp right so..

>>59464263
now? afaik since march 5 we knew the problem was that the load balancer is throwing the threads around the ccx LOL this is the MAIN problem of ryzen

>>59474880
Because it's so hard to subtract 20c? It's only on the 1700x and 1800x too. The 1700 doesn't have it.

>>59474912
yes and its the worst binned from the three so...

>>59474924
Worst binned loses you 100mhz. Big whoop.

>>59474880
It's not a thermal limit. It's voltage. You can run LN2 but you aren't going to get past 4.1 without 1.5v+ which no one should run regularly if they value the lifespan.

>>59474963
Are you telling me I shouldn't be running my [email protected] at 1.5V?

>>59475048
No because the sooner that thing dies the sooner you can replace it with something that isn't crap.

>>59463001
As opposed to caring about video games?

>>59475085
that shit is for /v/

>>59463617
t-they'll optimize everything

stupid developers :(

if ryzen was worthless, why did intel slash their prices out of fear?

it's not like they didn't have their hands on pre-release samples, they have their fucking hands in every pot

>>59475157
>out of fear
Intel respects their fucking customers you jizzcake

That's why they slash their prices

>>59475157
>if ryzen was worthless, why did intel slash their prices out of fear?

[citation needed]

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>>59473287
Don't you know that Ryzen motherboards literally have a special switch 'Bias' with options of cinebench, cpu-z etc.?

>>59475342
So does my Z170-A.

>>59462992
holy fuck this is the stupidest graph. look, i know they're probably paying you so you don't care, but holy shit this is just embarrassing.

Let's see what you fucking have here. You have:

a stock 1800X with SMT off,
a stock 1800X with stock RAM and SMT on,
a 4.0 OC'd 1800x with SMT on AND underclocked RAM,
a 4.0 OC'd 1800x with SMT on and stock ram speed
compared to a 4.2 GHz 7700k with no other details given.

I mean what the fuck are you even trying to accomplish here?

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>>59475180
>Intel respects their fucking customers

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>>59473666

>>59476723

I am circumcised and I am a really quick finisher, if I don't control my breathing and just "let go"

>>59476723
But there is a difference between uncut and someone with phimosis.
People with phimosis cannot orgasm, at least not through intercourse, so if they want to have intercourse, cutting their dick is the only option.

>>59477957
>People with phimosis cannot orgasm,
Where do you read this nonsense.

>>59478133
I didn't.
I tried it.

>>59478201
it's bullshit, i know a dude with phimosis who sill hasn't gotten it cut and him and his missus have shat out 3 kids

>>59478249
I only know how it is with me, maybe there are degrees of how bad it is.
But for me, it means my foreskin cannot be pulled back. I mean it can, but the pain is really extreme and I doubt anyone could ignore that pain.

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>>59478201
You're masturbating wrong.
>>59477957
>>59478249
I can imagine intercourse with phimosis being a little painful but hey, pain gets some people off I guess. With enough lube it's probably perfectly fine.
>cutting their dick is the only option
Doctors are saying that people can "grow" out of it but I can assure you that they just masturbate with the friction of moving their foreskin over their dick heads. I used to have phimosis and I am convinced that this is the way I got rid of it. No operations necessary.

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>>59467087
You may regret your purchase for a couple of months, but once the support/software updates come, anyone who bought a 7th gen i-series CPU is gonna be pissed.

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>>59468834
I would actually advise to just wait a little bit. Wait for kernel updates and for devs to get their shit together (and for people to figure out the whole m$ BTFO by Intel conspiracy)

Don't rule out first gen Ryzen yet.

>>59479087
>fixes are totally coming

>>59468613
Or 4 and 2x2-socket motherboards for the price of 6950X+High-End Mobo

>>59478910
>a little painful
I have no way to compare it to any other pain.
It is much more intense than anything else I have ever experienced.
Having a cramp, being kicked in the balls, getting stabbed, stepping on a lego, breaking an arm, nothing compares to it.

Look, I don't care. I don't need a solution. I don't think I will ever have sex again and this is all fine, I literally don't give a fuck.

>>59479217
>>fixes are totally coming
>Meanwhile X99babies had to wait till halfway through their chipset's planned obsolescence to get fixes

>>59479487
>just wait
>everone and everybody will develop with Zen in mind
>even 99% of existing games will have patches
>windows will be optimized within a week or two
>mobo updates will surely deliver
>Zen is not at fault here one bit
If you can wait, then wait. But don't bring in false hope. There is no clear indicator of anything but a few current and future titles to be optimized for it, nothing more.
>muh dozen devs on it already, AMD s-said so

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>it delivers less FPS but it is smoother goy!
>smoother
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/609o0b/dota2_micro_stutter_is_caused_by_ryzen_clock_bug/

This shit keeps getting worse and worse.
>just wait
For it to turn into a true shitfest.