Firefox on Linux is a browser with no sound

>what are they thinking?
You should know by now that Mozilla doesn't think clearly...

>>59442262
Don't be a dumb and install pulse?

>>59442262
Don't be a dumb and install vivaldi?

just compile it from source with alsa enabled

Stop pretending like you know JACK.

>>59442262
werks for me

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>>59442262
>free software is FORCING me to use other free software!!!

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>linux in a nutshell

>>59442262
use mpv/ytdl or as i've recently taken to calling it mpv plus ytdl

mpv --ontop --keep-open --player-operation-mode=pseudo-gui

>>59442903
how about NO

What was the point of this change?

>>59443501
>alsa is poorly supported and used by few
>pulseaudio support is actively developed and used by most
>we want surround meme audio features
>how can alsa even compete
something along those lines

Mozilla is shit
>made js
>made rust
>actively killing firefox
>forcing people to use Lennartware

Linux audio is a mess

>>59442262
>expecting Mozilla to do things that make sense

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I HATE PULSE

>>59443589
Does pulseaudio still sound like shit nowadays?

>>59444021
>pulseaudio still sound like shit
It only sounds like shit because ALSA sounds like tin can shit.

>newfags don't remember using OSS which sounds as good and full as Windows audio
>actually think ALSA/PULSE sound normal
Fuck you people are dumb and/or deaf.

t.audiopedo

>>59442262
Firefox doesn't run on Linux. Please don't spread this mistake. Linux is just a kernel, mostly used in systems such as GNU or Android.

>>59444031
>OSS
why is it not a thing then hmmmm

>>59444100
what do you mean?
oss is stil active

>>59444100
License cancer
>The Open Sound System (or OSS) is an alternative sound architecture for Unix-like and POSIX-compatible systems. OSS version 3 was the original sound system for Linux, but was superseded by the Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (or ALSA) in 2002 when OSS version 4 became proprietary software. OSSv4 became free software again in 2007 when 4Front Technologies released its source code and provided it under the GPL license.

>>59443501

Getting Redhat in charge of GNU/Linux.

>>59442262
Ubuntu stinks to arse.

>>59443206
mpv developers think ALSA is the shit.

https://github.com/haasn/gentoo-conf/blob/xor/home/nand/.mpv/mpv.conf
># Sigh, ALSA is even worse than PulseAudio

https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/commit/2827a615dc80674770ef38f3cd9bd07d902ef476

>It appears some device can be missing if we filter too many. In
particular, I've seen devices starting with "front" and "sysdefault"
being mapped to different hardware. I conclude that it's not sane trying
to present a nice device list to users in ALSA. It's fucked. (Although
kodi appears to attempt some intense "beautification" of the device
list, which includes parsing parameters from the device name and such.
Well, let's not.)
>No other audio API requires such ridiculous acrobatics.

>>59444031
When I tested it like 10 years ago ALSA sounded decent and PA sounded like a tin can. That's why I asked.

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All hail our overlord Lennart Poettering (pbuh) and the Red Hat God for enabling such advancement.

How do you use anything but pulse on a proper Linux desktop, anyway? I'd love to use JACK for my music and videos, or at least something that doesn't need to be cranked up 60% just to hear a fucking piano.

>>59442262
Honestly though, Linux audio is just fucked.

Say on a modern distro your program still uses OSS, how does this audio actually get output?

Program ==> OSS (emulated by ALSA emulated by Pulseaudio) ==> ALSA (emulated by Pulseaudio) ==> Pulseaudio ==> ALSA (not emulated) ==> Sound output

How can anyone look at this and say that it's ok.

people dont have pulse installed?

tfw cant play anything when ncmpcpp uses alsa
only reason i use pulse

>>59443058
Same, no issues here. FF 52 on xubuntu

>>59444523
Fix your mpd config you troglodyte

>>59444541
fix what exactly

>>59444549
Just read through it. You know basic shell scripting and weren't just copy pasting shit, right?

The Apple MacBook Pro with Retina Display doesn't have this problem.

>REEEE WHY DOESN'T FIREFOX RUN ON MY MS-DOS TIER AUDIO FRAMEWORK ANYMORE?

>>59444568
>>59444568
you actually dont know what you are talking about do you

>>59444616
I actually do, but why would I tell you if you could learn it yourself if you READ THE FUCKING MANUAL?

> Linux is all about choice! I sure am glad we have no standards and the community constantly shits on each other!
> Freedom is best and hard choices
> WHAT DO YOU MEAN THESE STUPID DEVELOPERS CHOOSE TO NOT SUPPORT WHAT I USE? HOW FUCKING DARE THEY TO THINK THEY HAVE A CHOICE TO NOT CATER TO MY AUTISTIC SETUP

>>59444627
https://youtu.be/1AqgELJSF2Q?t=108

>>59444574
years ago I would have thought this was a meme or trolling

now I own a macbook

thank god I found the light

>>59444666
Fuck off /b/

So because of some web3.0 webrtc 5.1 surround bullshit we must install poettering shit

>>59444666
>no audio

>>59444687
You were beaten to the potter meming by at least 10 posts. If you read the thread before posting your dumb comments you'd know.

>>59444714
Oh, so now there can be only one pottering meme per thread?

>>59444719
Yes. It's a new EU regulation.

$ apulse firefox

fuck you poettring and NASA/Red Hat niggers

You guys are seriously retarded
Maintain ALSA yourself if you want it
Oh wait, that's right, you're completely incompetent and all you can do is shitpost.

>distro xy switches to systemd
>people blame pottering instead of distro xy
>firefox drops alsa support
>people blame pottering instead of firefox

jesus christ /g/

Just do it yourself. If you can't then you don't get to have a valid opinion.

Well, /g/, here's your time to shine. Captaining FOSS for situations exactly like this. I suggest you all get to work, while the rest of us enjoy not having to worry about audio no longer working in our web browsers.

>>59444233
They could've forked OSS3. That only goes to show that freetard arguments that open source projects can't go dead because the source is open and anyone can pick it up are all bullshit.

Windows doesn't have this problem. Mac OS X doesn't have this problem. Ask me again why I don't use "free" software.

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>>59443088
>this great pie is free
>but it's served on a plate of shit
>you have to eat the plate of shit if you want to eat the free pie
>don't worry though, the shit plate is free too

>>59444517
It's ok

Linux and FLOSS are about chocie

As in, the code is there, so you are free to fork it and make it your own

Not as in, the developers are entitled to support your autistic software preferences based on pseudo-intellectual internet rants that you can hardly support with reason, let alone hard facts, and make fucking everything modular as all fuck or maintain 30 different branches for each autismal library/backend you may desire

If you consider yourself so enlightened and able to appreciate the difference between bloat and non-bloat then you should have no problem programming your own shit

also lmaoing @ suckless/catv kiddos who just started whining after systemd when udev/*kit/etc were the same sort of "anti-unix" software they hate, GNU is the definition of bloat, and the linux kernel itself is the definition of critical software with ties to shady organization

>>59444670
I own a macbook and it's shit. The touchpad is good, but everything else is shit, and touchpad isn't well supported on linux.

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>>59445663
Mind the typos i'm doing JAEGERBOMBS

>>59442262
>PulseAudio hard dependency
>systemd fags told us it's all optional
Pottering is killing Linux.

why is firefox so choopy and laggy but chromium works like butter?

Firefox and PulseAudio is FREE software. Anyone attacking it, systemd or Poettering is a Microsoft shill.

No one is forcing you to use Firefox. Use your own browsers if you don't like it. Heck, CODE your own! No one is stopping you.

Stop this anti-RedHat conspiracy theory.

>>59445699
Nooo, redhat software works too well, it's forcing me to use convenient software that paid professionals can tolerate

I want to write ten dozen scripts and carefully manage shell environment variables not have this shit that just works with a few tweaks in a config file. UNIX doesn't work like this! It's too easy!

>>59445734
I hear you brother, thanks to RedHat I can configure just a few scripts each time Poettering updates his software for us. Before things would just boot properly without modification.

Thank you friendos!

>>59445770
If you didn't try to be a snowflake and use something other than pulse you wouldn't have to do anything.

>>59442262
Get with the times grandpa.

I bet you have non webextension extensions and aren't using systemD either. Nerd.

>>59443501
Modern Mozilla absolutely loves technologies that espouse user friendliness while introducing fatal flaws that can never be resolved. Of which pulseaudio has many.

>>59445792
>Firefox 52 saw release last weekand itmakes PulseAudio a hard dependency — meaning ALSA only desktops are no longer supported
>Just don't use Pulse goyim!

You're breaking Linux

>>59445829
Eat shit trumpet.

>>59445698
Chromium and Nightly work the ~same on my computer :^) Make sure to force enable hwaccel and e10s. You can also increase dom.ipc.processCount for more processes. It does use more memory similar to Chromium. I set it to 8.

>>59445841
>trumpet
>>>/r/eddit

>>59445847
Chromium works better on my computer and they both take equal amount of resources on their default settings. I only use firefox for porn purposes these days.

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How to fix

1) Read http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/cvs/xsoft/firefox.html
2) Edit mozconfig as needed, use the ./configure --help to view available options, change prefix, also add

--enable-pie
--enable-ion

3) export your favourite optimization and hardening flags

export CFLAGS="-march=native -pipe -fstack-protector-strong"
export CXXFLAGS="$CFLAGS"
export CPPFLAGS="-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2"

4) build
5) install
6) if needed install appropriate language pack and edit general.useragent.locale

>inb4 not enough cores

>>59444374
It'll never be able to shake that brown stank.

>>59444867
t. Lennart

>>59442262
PulseAudio was created by the devil, it's inherently evil.

>>59446019
>How to fix
1.delete firefox
2.install something that isn't made by retarded sjw
Done!Firecuck is ie tier at this point.Slow,bugy,unreliable and they stores your data!

>>59445345
Edit the source code and recompile, fork it if you want. You have options.

>>59442262
sound works fine for me

>pulse is bloat but alsa is stupid

>>59442262
>Unironically using Linux.

>>59445345
>food analogies
Come on, anon.