/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

Can someone suggest a terminal font that looks like lemon but actually scales to a size larger than 9?

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>>59438608
Try tewi or gohu.

Here's a nice list of bitmap fonts with previews:
https://github.com/Tecate/bitmap-fonts

>>59438608
Inconsolatazi4

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>>59438559
First for Manjaro

>>59438559
How do I rice Debian with GNOME?

Why would anyone want a separate /home partition? Isn't it just a waste of space?

>>59438608
>>59438735
Nothing beats terminus

>>59438847
You can keep it while installing different distros

You have 10 seconds to explain why you aren't using btrfs or xfs.

>>59438850
Terminess beats it (Terminus patched with powerline glyphs).

>>59438887
>powerline
toys for kids

>>59438880
I've never heard of them.

I am running Lubuntu which comes with Firefox. In the repo I see something called 'firefox-dev'. Is that the Developer Edition of FF?

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/developer/

Here is the output of a search of my repo:
http://pastebin.com/kLjEQDgQ

Can someone who has actually run it, give the pros of running Gentoo? If I'm going to buy a new rig with some extra cores I don't use most of the time, why not compile?

>>59438937
Its a meme.

>>59438950
He said people who've actually run it

>>59438923
No, it's the development package of Firefox.

>>59438968
Thank you.

>>59438950
Sounds cool!

>>59438937
Pros:
-Everything is optimised for your system. The benefits of this aren't very large though- programs might run 0.1% faster or something.
-you have complete control over everything when a program is compiled. IE, remove gtk support and force qt if that's what you want.
-you learn more about how the system works
-you get packages quickly

Cons:
-waiting for compilation is an inconvenient timesink. You probably should compile your whole system again if there's a gcc update.
-very confusing for new users.

>>59439073
How long would an average update take on a modern (4 but likely 6 core) processor?

Thanks anon

>>59438937
gentoo is a meme
if your hardware is old, it's nice to have gentoo because the 0,0001 additional speed
if your hardware is old, it's bad to have gentoo because the 100000,0 additional waiting times till compiling is finished
if your hardware is new, you don't need the additional speed
if your hardware is new, compiling is faster
:^)

>>59439100
"average update" is meaninless
most updates will take five minutes
updating a browser or the kernel will take probably an hour on a good processor. recompiling the whole system can take 3 hours. Compiling is one of the few tasks that actually multithreads well, so modern 6-8 core AMD processors are actually better than intel for gentoo.

What's a distro that isn't a meme?

>>59439100
Not him, but it depends no how long you go between updates.
When I first started on Gentoo I was enthusiastic and updated daily. It took only a few minutes unless a huge package like firefox got pulled in or something (but if that's a problem you can always just get the binary version of larger packages, firefox-bin and not worry about compiling)

But now, with my 8 cores after going like 2-3 weeks without updating it can take like 2-5 hours I think, but I don't really time it I just do it over night.

>>59439279
lol get a load of this fag. I bet he doesn't even know what USE flags are, or why he has to re-install Ubuntu every 6 months while the Gentoomen sit comfortably on their 10yr old installs

>>59439326
>Not him, but
>>>/r/eddit

>>59439335
Good job dude, you're totally fitting in. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

>>59439294
>>59439326
This is what I'm thinking. If I have a couple extra unused cores, whats the drawback? I could just update the thing while streaming a movie to my TV or something.

i just installed visual-studio-code from aur but there is no visual-studio-code package installed?
wtf is this shit?
when i search for it there is nothign

>>59439403
Yeah you can do that. I've even played games like CS:S while compiling updates without problems.

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Im trying DeadBeef out.
How do I show the playback queue? And how do I delete partitions (splitter, vbox, hbox) on design mode?

>>59439294
With my new Ryzen being 8-core and Windows 10 being spyware I think the conditions are perfect to install Gentoo and never look back. Only thing is I can never store something on my file system I'm afraid to lose because I'm bound to fuck something up due to inexperience.

>>59439481
>>59439403
>>59439326
what are the kernels and graphics drivers on gentoo like? kf i get, say, an RX480, will i get the nicest amdgpu/amdgpu-pro drivers soonish?

>>59439409
>there are distros with visual studio in the repos
where went everything so wrong

>>59439694
there is official verson for linux, i dont see problem faggot

>>59439716
GNU/Linux*

>>59439725
GNU+Linux*

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>>59439725
>>59439791

>/ = GNU divided by Linux :(
>+ = GNU extended with Linux :)

>>59439725
>>59439791

I say we give Linus credit first and start calling it, "LinGNUx"

>>59439725
>>59439791
niggers like you are why i am gonna install bsd

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I got this today attempting to update my Majaro installation. Anyone know how I can fix this? Some command line Fu, or something?
--TIA

>>59439838
Dumb phone poster.

>>59439892
According to https://forum.manjaro.org/t/help-i-cant-upgrade-xorg-server/18752/11

sudo pacman -Syu --force may fix it.

>>59439687
You can see for yourself https://packages.gentoo.org/
Gentoo is usually pretty up to date on things.

>>59439940
>https://forum.manjaro.org/t/help-i-cant-upgrade-xorg-server/18752/11

Thank you, anon. many times, I search for the error message text, and usually find conversations that are WAY above my skill level, leaving me with more questions than answers. I'll search again before asking again. Your info seems to have worked, although I did get a 'Arming ConditionNeedsUpdate...' message after running the command. I've seen this before, and it lead me to one of those high-level discussions I mentioned. If I understood what I read, it's nothing to worry about.

Thanks again.

>>59439317
OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, fantastic, under appreciated distro

Any Ncmpcpp masters on? Currently, if I right click with a mouse inside of a Ncmpcpp terminal, it plays the track under the cursor. I want to change that so it pauses/plays the current song. How do I change that?

Arch is just a stepping stone.

>>59439716
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>59439896
nice assumption there

>>59441524
To what?

In other news, I'm running arch on a chromebook and it's having problems waking from sleep. It's non-responsive, black screen, nothing written to journalctl. 4.10.2.

>>59441524
Linux is just a stepping stone.

>>59441524
>Arch is just a stepping stone.
>>59441694
>Linux is just a stepping stone.
yep. to macOS.

I just installed Kubuntu,

What Music Player should i use?

Good thread.

>>59442833
Good post.

>>59442125
Install kde neon

>>59441069

I don't think it's possible with the config file.
Look at the source, find the line which assigns the mouse button action and change it to something else.

GNU is just a stepping stone.

>>59443489
To what?

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>>59443632
Freedom!

>>59443632
proprietary software

Should I pay special attention to the partition scheme if I use a 4TB HDD to just store videos, photos, other stuff and nothing else?

Is "update-alternatives" specific to Debian-based distributions?
If not, what are some examples from other distros?

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How could I scale pic related without loosing quality? Since it is pixelart, it should work somehow with imagemagick or gimp, right?

>>59444024

Only Debian does that and from reading about it, it's a huge, unnecessary hack.

https://debian-administration.org/article/91/Using_the_Debian_alternatives_system

>>59444856
And all distros based on Debian.

I'm looking to move my paper schedule to my PC and I don't want to fall for le botnet.
So what open and free solution will grant me my WISHLIST.

behold my WISHLIST:
-calendar with calendar things
-able to synch between pc and phone
-not not botnet

>>59445033
*not not
not

Thinking of using Xubuntu as my first Linux, I heard Mint (the usual reccomended babby's first) is a bit lacking in features and too "barebones", what do you guys think?

>>59445300
It's ok, most of them are, don't overthink it.

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Why have none of you registered this domain?

>>59438559
Why some people on /g/ keeps calling RSM a commie? He's not forcing anyone using gnu/linux.

>>59445544
they don't understand the concept of sharing things and contributing together to the same thing.
Also they think people do it for free on their free time.

If they don't get money from it immediately they won't understand

>>59445544
They draw the connection to the actual communism as a theory, socialist states like the USSR didn't call themselves commie because unlike with westerners the term had an actual ideological meaning.
Socialism was meant to help society transform it self to communism. If you think the totalitarian societies under socialism were unsustainable, you will be twice as sure actual communism was impossible.
The idea of doing things for free for the community with no money being part of the process was the actual goal. An anarchist utopia of free shit, love and no classes.
The joke is on the people that call him a commie, because if free software was communism we'd have achieved the impossible dream socialist societies died chasing.

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Very helpful, indeed.

>>59445033
>>59445053
me again,
I came up with the following, I have a radicale server running on my pc which will host my calendar, I will access it through lighting and through a sinc thing I put on my droid.
The only issue right now is how the fuck will my droid access my pc when I'm not in my residence where it has a stable local network address.
the search continues...

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>>59445431
Underrated kek, thanks anon.

>>59445544
Americans are easy triggered for things like that due to their history. Just ignore; it's /pol/ babble.

Copyleft is communism and evil.

>>59446664
Ballmer pls.

>>59445544
idk anon, maybe some windows users don't understand the concept of free software being free instead gratis, on topic: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.en.html

What are recommended drawing tablets for linux?

>>59446800
electronic devices

Is source mage any good? it seems childish but I like the style and "spells"

>>59446908
Take a look at their packages. They're ancient.. definitely fits the theme though. I doubt the devs even use it as their main distro

>>59446877
So there are no drawing tablets that work with linux?

ok, ive installed arch and im on the internet. the only other thing i want to do is download the game nethack from the AUR. can someone tell me how?

How do I get Xbone gamepad support in Fedora? It seems like they dont have kernel support for it enabled for whatever reason.

>>59446908
use aliases so your package manager have the same syntax and you're done.

Their package manager seems to be interesting but it's just a hobby and I don't think devs targets source mage to be usable one day

>>59447482
>>use aliases so your package manager have the same syntax and you're done.
pretty neat idea, actually

>>59447028
>>59447482
It seems very interesting but for the sake of using linux and learning it and then wasting my days on the internet is it useful? Asking for a friend,

>>59447332
Why would you want to download nethack from the AUR and not the official repos?

How good is wacom support in Linux?

>>59447744
Pretty good, depending on the model.

>>59447791
What are the recommended models?

>>59447797
Don't take my word as gospel, do some of your own research, but I'm pretty sure almost everything from Wacom is supported reasonably well. I'd recommend just trying to find a tablet you want, and then looking up how well it is supported rather than doing the opposite.

>>59447635
i was under the impression it was not in the official repos.

>>59447923
I have no clue where you got that idea, it is.

>>59447938
when i try 'sudo pacman -S nethack" and 'sudo pacman-S nethack-x11' both return target not found

>>59439838
Stab yourself in the eye and chop your dick off while you're punishing yourself for our transgressions.

>>59448117
Sounds to me like your pacman isn't properly configured or something. It's definitely in the repositories.

>>59446800
Apparently linux 4.10 has improved much impoved for wacom tablets.

>>59448140
ah i needed to run pacman -Syy

thanks for your help

>>59438559

What is the best AUR helper out there?

>>59448903
cower

>>59449000

It apparently does not perform automatic builds.

There are a few circumstances where that will be just o.k., but overall it looks like I will waste too much time.

>>59448903
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_helpers#Comparison_table

>>59448903
aurget

It just works(tm).

>>59448469

Read the documentation why doing -Sy isn't recommended and will only lead to trouble.
Read the documentation or just use the --help flag to figure out how to search for packages and their exact names.

https://github.com/rafacuevas3/dots-theme

installed this (cloned it into my /home/user/.themes) but it doesn't show up in my window manager options. My arc theme is in there and it shows up. Any idea?

>>59449865

Post the output of "ls ~/.themes"

>>59449865
>>59449987

Also try logging out and back in, maybe Xfce is finicky like that.

>[libreeepc@libreeepc nethack]$ sudo pacman -S ncurses
>[sudo] password for libreeepc:
>resolving dependencies...
>looking for conflicting packages...
>error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
>:: gptfdisk: requires libncursesw.so=5-32

am i fucked?

>>59450107
Time to install win10.

>>59449987
>>59449999
I'm retarded, I cloned it into a new folder which was inside .themes, now it works

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What's the harm of login to root instead of doing sudo?
I understand that if you do something stupid (rm -rf /) you can mess you system up, but what about security?

>>59450170
>What's the harm of login to root instead of doing sudo?
None.
>I understand that if you do something stupid (rm -rf /) you can mess you system up, but what about security?
Dangerous only if you do stupid things like browsing the wes as root.

>>59450179
Like launching firefox as root?
Some JS wouldn't remove my files would it?

>>59450170
run every program as root, if one of the programs has a security hole in it, this attacker now has root access to your computer. well done anon.
never under any circumstances log into xorg as root.

>>59450222
>never under any circumstances log into xorg as root.
It's a holes fest?

>>59450222
>log into xorg as root
If it's just twm, xterm and bash it's safe.

>[libreeepc@libreeepc nethack]$ ldd nethack
> linux-gate.so.1 (0xb7749000)
> libncursesw.so.6 => not found
> libc.so.6 => /usr/lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7572000)
> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /usr/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x80028000)

is there a way to get ncurses 6 or am i fugged from >>59450107

>>59450249
what's the chances someone of his knowledge is running minimal xorg?

>>59450277
I don't care. I'm here for teaching people, not for spreading lies.

>>59450324
it's a much better practise to not login as root and su/sudo for only the programs which absolutely require root access, not just for the security of the programs but the possibility of simply forgetting you're running root and doing something dumb.

>>59450107

Works on my machine and gptfdisk requires verision 6-64 of libncursesw.

You most likely did partial upgrades. Enjoy learning from your retarded mistake.

>>59439725
systemd/Linux*

>>59450351
default sudo leaves a terminal with root capabilities. That's far more dangerous than login as root.

>>59450351
>simply forgetting you're running root
That's not an argument.

>>59450386
thanks for the 2 yous anon
with sudo only that terminal runs the program in root. logging in as root means every program runs as root. i do not understand how running only the programs that need to run as root with the root user is more dangerous than running everything with root user.

>>59450373
>>>/memecenter/

>>59450422
>with sudo only that terminal runs the program in root.
Did you type sudo -k or close the terminal after that? Are you sure that no programs controls the keyboard and the mouse and start using the program againt your will? Are you sure that the terminal you see is really the default OS terminal. Are you sure that your user session is not hijacked?

I consider that all my session user are corrupted, and never give a way for user to reach root.

I log as root separately. That's far more sure than your shitty sudo.

Finally hit that point where I'm starting to use linux as my main OS now (instead of windows). Feels great. Got enough hours with it that I feel decently comfortable with the terminal and the OS as a whole to use it as my primary. It helps that I sort of forced myself into it by uninstall windows and putting xubuntu on my laptop. Now I need to form myself to use vim all the time so that I can learn it

>>59450490
you're going too far with this anon

Hello, /fglt/

How's guix going? Coming the other side of the pond where we have a unified package manager, I was wondering why it appears that Linux-land doesn't have one.

Yours faithfully,
A BSD user.

P.S. Not actually trolling, genuinely curious.

>>59450534
>tripfagging
>>>/r/eddit

>>59450548
Sorry 'bout that. Now will you answer my question?

>>59450525
I'm right. Security is about paranoia. And i'm decades ahead of security "experts". I know why in decades we will understand why we must allow user to execute any binary from the internet (sandboxing). I know why in the future security will not consist of trusting applications, but the total opposite. I am Cassandra and you're not capable of understanding me. But in decades you'll repeat exactly what I'm saying right now.

>>59450564
"It's not paranoid if they really are after me".

>>59450512
Have fun and it will just go better from here on.

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>>59450564
i can assure you i won't anon

>>59450609
It's OK. You're an idiot, it's not a crime.

Whats a good pdf viewer that has features similar to foxit viewer?

am I retarded for writing down terminal commands on a piece of paper as I learn them, lol

>>59450686
no, whatever works to learn them its worth doing

>>59450686
Retarded, not. But stop it right now.

I have a AMD Radeon graphics card which may be not supported by Ubuntu 16.04.
What should I do? Will upgrading to Ubuntu 16.10 or downgrading to 14.04 solve the issue? If yes, will it work as good as the graphics card works on Windows? Also will have to configure my computer or will the system work perfectly after upgrading or downgrading?

Am I damaging my computer by not using a OS supporting the graphics card?
Also my laptop takes like ~50 seconds to boot? Is that because of the incompatible graphics card?

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>>59450359
im on a potato

>>59450734
may wish to read this anon:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
you won't damage your pc by using an os which does not support the card. the graphics just won't work at all or as you'd expect them to.

>>59450686

Or you can, you know, write them down in a text file on your computer.

>>59450741

It doesn't matter what computer you have, it works the same on every.

>>59450741
How about you update your system once in a while?

using xubuntu, I have two monitors, the right one is my "main" monitor, but and I've set it as primary monitor in the display settings, and also set my panel to be only shown on that display. However when I log on my lock screen "toggles" etween the two, like it will show on whichever monitor my cursor is. How do I set the lock screen to just show on my main monitor. Can't find a setting like that in the lightdm GTK+ greeter settings

>>59451705

Pretty sure I saw a monitor section in the config file. Primary screen or something, or show only on something.

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I have thoughts about trying linux and ditching windows... again. I've done it several times, but have always broken the linux due to the possiblities for tinkering. I'd like to try this time Ubuntu, and I'd wait for the ZZ release. How is it compared to Win10 ? Is it faster, or is it already bloated ? I generally find gnome most comfy for me, the last I tried was fedora, but broke it. Should I go for Debian Gnome?

Mint is also OK, but kinda 'meh'.

pc: machine is thinkpad t430s

>>59439892
sudo rm "thefile"
update again

>>59451953
consider ubuntu mate lts, it's stable and the interface can be easily customized. Also, it comes with several presets to make it look like unity, windows, macOS, etc

is terminator good or should I be using something else

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>>59438820
>How do I rice Debian with GNOME?
You can do some pretty extreme shit with gnome extensions.

https://extensions.gnome.org/

>>59438847
What >>59438867 said. I've regretted a few installs that I didn't seperate.

>>59438880
How are they better than ext4? I've always used ext4 and never had a single issue so I don't understand how a different file system could be beneficial.

>>59442125
I'm partial to Guayadeque. It's very underrated imo.

>>59444768
Nothing stopping you from scaling it in gimp. I'd recommend running it through waifu2x though. Pic related was achieved with waifu2x.

Is it possible to use dwm so that you can change the focused window with the keyboard (like i3)?

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>>59452374
>>59444768
I don't know if this is what you're going for or not since it's not pixel art anymore but it's a pretty damn neat result.

>>59443632
Eating toe jam.

Hello,

I am trying to set up GPU passthrough. When I do

lspci -nnk

to see the devices, my GPU comes up but not my integrated graphics. My BIOS only has a setting of what is the default boot device and whether multi monitor is enabled. What do I do?

>>59444768
use nearest neighbour if you want to preserve the pixelated aspect

>>59450534
RPM is actually the standard as per LSB.
But nearly everyone ignores LSB because ego and more ego.

Im working on GPU passthrough but I can't get my GPU to appear as claimed by stub, output is

[ 2.890751] pci-stub: add 1002:67DF sub=FFFFFFFF:FFFFFFFF cls=00000000/00000000
[ 2.890753] pci-stub: add 1002:AAF0 sub=FFFFFFFF:FFFFFFFF cls=00000000/00000000
[ 2.890759] pci-stub 0000:01:00.1: claimed by stub


I followed http://askubuntu.com/questions/650707/pci-stub-not-claiming-radeon-card-only-the-audio-device-radeon-driver-claiming this and it is still not showing as claimed by stub. Any ideas?

>>59438559
cqn i use GPU Passthrough on linux i have a samsung series 7 np700z7c it comes with a gpu nvidia 650m and intel integrated graphics 3000hd and i7 3615qm 2.30ghz, ram 8gb
i would play mostly older games or skyrim at most im tired of windows as main OS

>>59454057
According to Intel's website it has vt-d support so probably. Type in lspci -nnk to see if your GPU is on its own separate IOMMU group.

Recently when I turn my PC on, it gets stuck on a job for dev-disk-by-[UUID] for 90 seconds. When the 90 seconds run out, it says in yellow that some dependency fails. All a my drives work when I finish booting. How do I figure out what's taking so long?

I tried for hours but I still haven't been able to get wifi to work on debian (i got ethernet to work tho)
do you guys think there's a high chance ubuntu will just work, or not really

How the fuck do i make a bootable windows iso from lubuntu? I tried unetbootin but it wont detect my external hard drive, and when opening with unetbootin installtype=hdd targetdrive=/dev/sdb1 it says im out of space (not true)

sudo dd bs=4M if=/path/to/windows.iso of=/dev/sdxy

Do I need a /boot partition for grub?

>>59457581
no, unless you're using an encrypted partition or similar special snowflake setup

>>59456359
what hardware? what have you tried?

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>>59444768
imagemagick

convert -filter point -scale 400% a.gif a2.gif

Redpill me on Slackware, /fglt/.

Is debian worth getting at this point, I feel like it's a bit too old and all of it's software is outdated

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>slackware adopting systemd is a very realistic possibility, and by the time that happens the only place left to escape it will be BSD

What's a distro that has no systemd, is binary (I could probably be convinced to try source), has a high number of users, and preferably isn't a fork like devuan?

I remember being 15 and fagging about as a clueless linux zealot for no other reason than to be contrarian

now I'm a drinking age adult and everything I said about microsoft products has come true

where did it all go so wrong

>>59458568
I used to make fun of stallman and freetards but I've come to realise that they were right the whole time.

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halp

Arch + X + i3

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>>59458673
meanwhile on root

I messed with xorg.config and i3 config, nothing helped.

>>59458568
I can't believe Windows explorer actually has built-in adware now, it's just too ridiculous, especially after Win 7 solved most of Windows's usability issues.

>>59458688
>started x as root
bad idea. I'd delete all x config files and remake them

>>59458568
>>59458695
>use windows 10 because muh gaymes
>Actually turn on voluntary data collection and Cortana etc
>Don't care about privacy or free software
>Start coming to /g/
>Realise that windows actually spies on you, and that it's shit, and that closed source cannot be trusted
>try mint live usb
>One week later installing arch
>Two weeks later, compiling kernel in Gentoo

>>59448903
Arch is a meme, friend.
Use a decent distro.

>>59449340
>Yaourt is objectively the worst AUR helper
>It's the most popular
Really gets those neurons firing

Explain why I shouldn't just use the root account for everything I want to do on my PC.

>>59458698
>started x as root
I've done it for testing purposes only, I never login as root noramlly.

I tried using default X and i3 configs, it didn't help.

I imagine there is a problem with Qt, but I don't know how to fix it.

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What is the alternative to Docker? heard about LXC but it's not as portable/cross platform as Docker apparently.

>there are people here who unironically don't use Red Star
Literally the most based distro.
>Comfy retro OSX look
>KDE
>No systemd
>maintained by professional developers instead of incompetent NEETs

okay, how do I restart my session without having to sudo reboot from tty? say i made some changes to my display manager that leaves me unable to login to the DE. i can revert them easy, but do i need to sudo reboot every time?

>>59459570
Can't you just
$ logout

>>59458972
covered: >>59450170

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Got in a pretty weird situation concerning bootloaders. Had efi stub setup loading gentoo on X220, then compiled kernel with ck (BFS, MuQQS), kernel itself did not work, yet two initramfs did not fit in efi partition there was, should have used gparted to extend it, but overwrote the older initramfs with dracut generated one giving ck version. Kernel panic.

Do not have anything to boot in UEFI (EFI?) mode to modify efivars (live gentoo usb just modprobe efivars gives that there is no such module). Decided to install grub, bios one. GPT partition, grub_bios got generated alright, i guess, /boot partition separate or not, while booting, holding shift does not invoke grub and there does not seem to be any bootloader on HDD MBR at all, just that it does not respond in any way, only thing is grub files apparent (including the grub.cfg, which update-grub generated, including all it should have found).

It's like no matter how I install grub, it's not loading from bios to grub, heh. Using super grub2 disk usb it does boot. It has been like four days of dealing with this !@#$. Any ideas?

>>59460022
>if a security hole is exploited, they have root access to your system
couldn't they just do the same thing with sudo with a normal account if sudo doesn't need a password?

when installing gentoo, is it sufficient to just add an account with the users group, or should I add wheel if i want to use sudo?

Redpill me on installing fresh Linux on a BTRFS volume over the EXT4 one.

>>59460152
BSD uses wheel, for sudo on linux add them to the sudo group.

Also it's a good idea to add your normal user to the following groups: users, audio, video, plugdev, netdev, lp, games, floppy, cdrom (you can omit groups for hardware you don't have)

When I boot into Debian, it always reads my usb headphone amp as an audio in rather than audio out. If I unplug the amp and plug it back in, it properly reads it as audio out. Haven't run into this problem on other distros. Any ideas?

>>59460240

>BSD uses wheel, for sudo on linux add them to the sudo group.
You can edit the sudo configuration file and make any group have sudo rights.

>Also it's a good idea to add your normal user to the following groups: users, audio, video, plugdev, netdev, lp, games, floppy, cdrom (you can omit groups for hardware you don't have)
If he uses udev and logind it's bad to add his user to certain groups and unnecessary.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/users_and_groups#Pre-systemd_groups

>>59460283
>You can edit the sudo configuration file and make any group have sudo rights.
You're right however I think since most linux distros create a designated sudo group by default and sudo basic config has that group enabled by default it's the easiest to use that.

>udev and logind
He is installing gentoo. With gentoo one should use eudev (udev fork by gentoo team) and no pötteringd at all.

>>59458831
why is it a meme?

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>Yaourt

>>59460308
I'd advise using systemd anyhow. Eudev was forked for openrc which is ok, but systemd is just better in most ways.

i'm looking for a stable rolling release, tumbleweed or solus?

>>59460308
GNU/Linux*

>>59460308

>he thinks the reason to instsall gentoo is not to use systemd
Kill yourself to stop spreading memes and misinformation.

>>59460361
The reason to install gentoo is falling for a meme.

>>59438847
>>59438867 got a point, and if you don’t want to waste space, just use a single partition, btrfs filesystem, and its subvolumes. Btrfs is awesome btw.

>>59460352
>a
Arch

>>59447081
Never tried, but there is a Wacom driver that is mainstream on Linux, some gotta check

>>59460361
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOW DARE PEOPLE NOT USING WHAT I USE
>HOW DARE PEOPLE INSULT WHAT I USE

(You) now pack your shit and kill yourself back to /r/systemd

Systemd shills are the most pathetic little shits in the GNU/Linux ecosystem.

Is gentoo fsf approved? does the initial install have any nonfree software? does it have nonfree "blobs"?

>>59460467
>Gentoo steers the user towards nonfree programs, which is why it is not one of our recognized free distros.

>>59450215
’till the day there is some security hole in Firefox, X, or any other program running gets exploited.

That’s not very likely, yet I won’t leave my front door open just because it’s unlikely that a robber would see it.

Doors don’t block everything, but limits the amount of problems you’ll get

>>59460456

I suggest you improve your reading comprehension and read it again.

Only complete idiots like you would assume that Gentoo's main attraction is no systemd. The main reason to use it is the ability to easily control compile time options of packages.

There are no words for retards like you who don't know what they're talking about, but they take up opinions just to appear edge and bold, so they can feel smart about themselves.

>back to X
Wow, you really showed me and proved you fit in. Perhaps consider getting a name and tripcode because you are a great viritual space gatekeeper.

>>59450646
Don’t know what are the features of foxit, yet okular (KDE’s doc viewer) is pretty full featured

>>59460467
https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.en.html

Just got around to reinstalling Gentoo on my laptop and I made a real stupid mistake. Got all the way through with the minimal image before realizing that it doesn't allow for UEFI installs, so now I'm having to go back through with sysrescuecd real quick. How should my fstab/parted input look for this? What I'm thinking is this, but I'm not sure if I need the grub_bios portion with a UEFI setup as the handbook is fairly unclear on this point. Would these setup parameters work?

Here's the entire pseudoscript:
http://pastebin.com/9qFsAxmb

Here are the important excerpts:

//parted input
parted -a optimal /dev/sda
mklabel gpt
rm *
unit mib
mkpart primary 1 128
name 1 boot
mkpart primary 128 640
name 2 swap
mkpart primary 640 -1
name 3 rootfs
set 1 boot on

//filesystems
mkdosfs -F 32 -n efi-boot /dev/sda1
mkswap /dev/sda2
swapon /dev/sda2
mkfs.btrfs /dev/sda3

//bootloader
emerge --ask sys-boot/efibootmgr
mkdir -p /boot/efi/boot
cp /boot/vmlinuz-* /boot/efi/boot/bootx64.efi
efibootmgr --create --disk /dev/sda --part 2 --label "Gentoo" --loader "\efi\boot\bootx64.efi"
efibootmgr -c -d /dev/sda -p 2 -L "Gentoo" -l "\efi\boot\bootx64.efi" initrd='\initramfs-genkernel-amd64-3.16.5-gentoo'

//fstab
PARTUUID=blahblahblah   /boot        vfat    defaults,noatime     0 2
PARTUUID=blahblahblah   none         swap    sw                   0 0
PARTUUID=blahblahblah   /            btrfs   noatime              0 1

Would this work?

>>59460520
install gentoo

shalom.

Looking for a lightweight replacement for xfce4-clipman.
Tad too heavy, I don't fancy a taskbar icon and I have no use for storing multiple clipboard lines.

So far any clipboard manager I've tried besdies xfce4-clipman has one fatal flaw - the contents of clipboard are lost when I close the application I got the selected piece of text from.

If anyone knew how to remedy this I'd appreciate it.

I'm fairly sure it's something fucking dumb I haven't figured out yet.

>>59460535

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Clipboard#List_of_clipboard_managers

>>59460456
they aren't shills for systemd they're red hat shills
red hat pays people to shill fedora, rpm and especially systemd.

>>59460554
well thanks for fucking nothing I already have this page opened

>>59460535
whats the point of clipboard managers anyway?

>>59460563

I suggest installing the mentioned software and testing it as well.

>>59452374
> How are they better than ext4? I've always used ext4 and never had a single issue so I don't understand how a different file system could be beneficial.

Btrfs is a very good FS. One of his most interesting feature is subvolumes : on a single partition, you can hold your / and your /home, which is nice if you are short on disk space. You can also “snapshot” a subvolume to get back to it latter while only the changes occupy disk space, neat, but now, the awesome : is is writable, too. snapshot your root subvolume, and reboot into it, try things, install cinnamon and gnome shell at the same time, try wayland, mess up things. you can destroy the whole system without damage : just reboot, delete the “root-experimental” subvolume, and everything will be fine.

there is also some other nice things, like the « your data is compressed on your disk, but is given decompressed when you ask for it » option, which let you save disk space and speed up HDD; the built-in support for raid 0 and 1 (5 and 6 are coming, but still experimental); the «you can check file integrity on demand» (not automatic ’cause of performance issues), or the fact that there is a defragmentation utility (ext4 don't have any)

Good thing, btrfs is considered stable since 2014 (it was born in 2007), and if you don't want to mess around, just create 2 subvolumes, @root and @home, and use it like if it was an ext4 disk. unlike ZFS, you don't need to install kernel modules or such, it is built-in the Linux kernel.

They are drawbacks, sure, due to the “only changes are saved” and the compression thing, it can be a bit tricky to know how much thing you can still put in it, and it is not possible to use swapfiles with it, so you will have to use a swap partition (or no swap at all).

But it definitely worth it.

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>>59460582
they manage the clipboard

>>59458688
You got a really bizarre tech issue… What have you messed up recently?

>>59459065
I agree, looks like a problem with your graphic toolkit (dunno if its Qt or Gtk, tough)

>>59460619
wew, so nothing

>>59458688
Never ever start X as root, faggot.
What the hell.

>tfw fell for the Gentoo meme
I've only used arch and mint so far, what am I in for? Skimming the install page it doesn't seem much harder than arch. What are some cflag/use flag tips experienced users would give a noob?

>>59456892
Format the external drive with fat32 with gparted for exsmple, I had some trouble too, but this solved it.

>>59457988It's for neets with time like gentoo.

>>59460761
ACCEPT_LICENSE="-* @FREE"

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>GTK will never fix their filepicker
why even life

>>59461244
They just don't give a fuck about you. Deal with it anon.

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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

>>59450686
just use your .histfile fampai

>>59460352
Gentoo stable, Arch, Sabayon

>>59461415
>arch
>stable

>>59461351
Everything is friendly to some users, anything Desktop Linux is lightweight for modern machines.

Pick Ubuntu, OpenSuse, Fedora, Sabayon, Arch or whatever you like.

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>>59461453
GNU+Linux*

>>59461453
GNU/Linux*

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>>59461453
Ganoo/Loonix*

>>59461433
t. never used arch

>>59461508
then why recommending it?

>>59461433
Disable the repos apart from core if its not stable enough for you.

>>59461525
i'm saying you've never used arch, and i'm not >>59461415

>>59461508
lmao, why should I? just check the archives how much arch breaks ever now any then and requires manual fixing shit

>>59438780
>Manjaro
You know he is a pleb when he preaches Manjaro

>>59461540
there's only been a handful of times i've had to manually handle something when updating since i started using it in 2012
and most of them were just "--force this one"

i had more trouble dist-upgrading debian/ubuntu than i've ever had with arch

>>59460352
>stable rolling
You can have either a stable or a rolling system.

Hi guys my friend told me I should install FreeBSD because it's the most powerful Linux distro. Is he trolling me?

>>59461534
should i use linux-lts (for more stability) or the normal kernel? i don't want to mess with a broken xorg or something like that

Is it normal for speeds to be much slower on linux than on windows? On windows I get over 100 Mbps and I can hardly get 3 on linux. Is it my NIC card or is the website slowing me down on purpose.

how can I make word wrap in vim so it breaks on words instead of characters?

>>59461672
>stable
more like 'babby mode'

>Manjaro

I accidently deleted the /home folder on my SSD to move it my HDD. There were no files visible in my initial /home folder so I just used "sudo rm -rf *" to wipe it.

Little did I know it did contain hidden files, namely those for my OpenBox WM settings. How do I recover files that I deleted with the earlier mentioned command?

>>59462324
Correction: I purposely deleted the old /home on my SSD, but I didn't know it contained hidden files about my WM.

>>59461755
This is not the 2000's, what fucking timeline are you at that you're wary of breaking xorg?

>>59462324
You can't son, rm doesn't idiot proof itself by moving it to the trash bin. It's gone forever. But maybe you can try a file recovery tool of some sort

>>59462324
>>59462342
what were/are you trying to do?
if deleting /home was intentional, why aren't you asking how to delete the hidden files?

>>59462388
I installed another distro buy wanted to keep the previous /home on my HDD. When I installed Manjaro it created a /home on my SSD rather than use the old /home on my HDD.

Now I deleted the newly created /home on my SSD, which I thought was empty, but contained the hidden files for my WM. The goal of the project was accomplished though, because the HDD is now my new /home with all old files in tact.

>>59462416
... so what's the problem?

>>59462434
The 'old' /home on my SSD looked empty in the file manager, but did most likely contain the hidden files for my WM. (I think so, because I checked the old /home on the SSD without hidden files being visible and now my WM is fucked up).

Now the hidden files were deleted with the sudo rm -rf * command and I'm wondering if there is a way to recover them, maybe with some kind of file recovery tool. Fixing my entire rice will take me hours and hours of work.

>>59462469
but, all your settings were on the hdd, right?
why aren't you using that?

>>59462513
prev os: arch
ssd: boot, root, swap etc
hdd: home with pictures, videos etc
rice: meh, not what i wanted

before fix: manjaro
ssd: boot, root, the during install created /home
hdd: /home from previous install with pics etc
rice: newly created from scratch. satisfied, files probably on ssd in new /home

now: manjaro
ssd: only boot, root and swap
hdd: home
rice: fucked up

the only thing i can imagine is that the settings files for the rice were on the ssd in the home as hidden files and deleted in the process.

>>59462601
Just recreate your rice imo. That's less of a headache than trying to recover the deleted data. I hope this serves a lesson to always keep a back up of those crucial files.

>>59462601
oh, so you riced up the ssd /home, before migrating over your old /home
that's just asking for a fuck up right there
good luck recovering anything from an ssd, if it uses TRIM, that data's probably long gone

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comphy

>>59462640
>>59462659
alright that's what I thought initially, but I couldn't find too much on the webs.
thanks m8s, have a comfy rest of your day

>>59462691
np
just remember: designate one space as your /home, if you want to reinstall/move things around or whatever, migrate your /home before doing anything else
trying to merge two home folders together is tricky business, you need to know exactly what you need from both, and considering you weren't even aware of where your wm settings were stored, you do not

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>>59462678
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>59461351
source mage gnu+linux

Is there any way to make CM8888 cards actually work on any Linux distro? I mean Phoebius/Powercolor Devil HDC etc. ALSA doesn't support them, pretty much nothing on the internet about it, and it's the only thing that keeps windows on my ssd.

>>59463229
>using windows

>>59460119
It seems it just did not write to MBR.

What could I get to boot from usb in uefi mode so that I could access to efivars (modprobe efivars)?

>>59463229
why not just get a pci/e or usb sound card with known linux support?
i found several mentions of that chip/card when searching and it looks like people have mixed results, seems to be a pretty oddball/uncommon device

>>59463347
how to not use windows if your sound card isn't working which pretty much fucks up whole setup then?

>>59463229
supposedly, there are patches already in mainline. have you compiled a kernel before? that'd be where to start.

im trying to access my hard drive from a live usb (ubuntu) but i get

"unable to access "drive"

error mounting /dev/sda2 at ...

and theres a shit load of stuff.

what do i do?

Why so many people use dd instead of cat?

>>59463428
You need elevated priveleges. Sudo or login as root

>>59463395
i pad quite a lot for my actual setup, finding something to make it fit in place perfectly instead would be very hard, i already went through lot of sound cards, besides i'd have to pay twice as much for usb sound card comparable to this one

I have an Odroid XU4 with the cloudshell expansion and I want to run it with a display connected via HDMI and use the cloudshell display to show systemstats.
The problem however is that the shell script that displays the systemstats starts in tty2 (or any given tty) and automatically displays in the framebuffer 0. The cloudshell display is fb1 though.
Is there anyway to map tty2 permanently to fb1?

Or alternatively, can I just display the tty on the screen without it being managed by xorg?
The problem is also that if I map tty2 to fb1 manually with con2fbmap the tty2 takes every keyboard input from the other display/xorg/pty.

>>59463455
how do i run the ubuntu file manager as sudo? i never even set a sudo password

>>59463455
>You need elevated priveleges
like becoming white?

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>>59438559
what do i install lads kde or gnome??

>>59463434
because with dd you can configure block size to optimize bytes transfer.

>>59463499
how's that a benefit? why not let the program itself figure out the block size? do you use dd to copy files on your system too?

>>59463472
>>59463455
ok i sudo natilused, now the disc doesnt show up

>>59463476
funny, got that joke from dailyhaha?

>>59463472
Are you using a live distro? Try using root
ex

su - 
mount -t ext4 /dev/sda1 /mnt 

>>59463553
>how's that a benefit?
I was joking.
>why not let the program itself figure out the block size? do you use dd to copy files on your system too?
In fact I use dd when I want to copy a specific amount of bytes or when the target is a node (mknod).

I use rsync to copy files, not dd, not cp, not cat.

>>59463493
want thumbnails in your filepicker? -> kde
don't? -> gnome

>>59463604
>>59463553
>>59463499
>>59463434

>not using curl

>>59463606
eh i can't care less about thumbnails

>>59463601
ok i tried sudo mount -t exfat /dev/sda1 /mnt

but according to gparted it cant detect the file system. im pretty sure its in exfat.

>>59463632
>curl
wat

>>59463694
You might need additional shit if it's indeex exfat
https://www.howtogeek.com/235655/how-to-mount-and-use-an-exfat-drive-on-linux/

>>59463694
*as does regular parted -l

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>>59463702
Next to http://, curl understands file://, which allows to curl files around locally.

$ echo foobar > op
$ curl -# file://op -o /tmp/faggot
######################################################################## 100.0%
$ 

so i installed debian, but on boot i only get a login and then a USER@debian bash shell.

How do i get into the regular graphics mode?

t. winbaby

>>59463771
neat

>>59463784
sudo apt-get install (DE)

-> >>59463833

>>59463824
>-bash: sudo: command not found

And i already had it install one beforhand

>>59463868
su -

you didnt install sudo obviously

>>59461733
>Is he trolling me?
Maybe, since *BSD are based on their own BSD kernel, just like GNU/Linux is based on the Linux kernel.

Yet, maybe he just meant that FreeBSD is a really powerful UNIX system, which isn’t false. I just wouldn’t recommend it for people new to the UNIX world, though: it’s just like suggesting Gentoo or Arch for a 1st try, a bad idea, even not accounting the driver problems you’ll likely get. If you are looking for somewhere to start, I’d suggest Linux Mint, Zorin OS or Manjaro Linux (the latter if you want to experiment: underneath, it’s Archlinux).

>>59461847
Dunno, why should it break on caracters? For me, it breaks on words, like it should. I’m breaking using a fixed textwidth (

:set tw=100

) and it works fine

>>59463419
I'm more of a casual user, so would that mean that it will be implemented to stock (or whatever you call it) kernel in the near future?

>>59463579
haha, yaas

>>59464213
>implemented
if the devs enable it for their kernel
> in the near future
a rough patch has been around since 2014
> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2014-August/079711.html

Do you use wine? How do I check if my .exe thingy will work with it?