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MOOCs are worthless

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MOOCs are totally fucking worthless. Never take one. I am taking Stanford's introductory machine learning course, and I have realized it's totally fucking worthless. I'm going to complete it anyway because it interests me. Unless you have to go to a physical building and write an exam, it's a waste of time and money. Now I will explain why.

You can cheat your way through the entire course and all of the marking is automated, even the programming assignments. Furthermore, you have to get at least 80% of stuff to progress to the next assignment or quiz, so there is a huge incentive to just plagiarize. Every single quiz and assignment is on GitHub. A retard who knows ctrl C + ctrl V could just google every single question and get 100%.

I would never hire someone whose education was exclusively from MOOCs. If you never sit down in a supervised environment to write a paper exam, there is absolutely no guarantee you learned a goddamned thing.

Stanford is evil for making this course, because it's just a tax on desperate third world students looking to pad their resumes. I'm not one of them, but I pity them, because 100 USD is a lot of money in South Asia. They should be banned from charging for MOOCs.
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>>59408687
>I can't trust myself to perform honestly on this course therefore it's shit and they should stop so nobody else can learn
Do you know how retarded you sound right now?
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>>59408687
All the knowledge is in books and research papers. Everyone knows that.

Few years ago, Coursera contacted people who completed the most courses and got the highest scores and tried to get them jobs at biggest companies. Not a single one was successful.

MOOCs are for fucking idiots.
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>>59408719
Are you retarded? The cheat repositories have hundreds of stars. There the first results on Google.

MOOC degree = counterfeit money

>>59408744
>MOOCs are for fucking idiots.

I totally agree. I'm just taking this because I don't think my university has a course specifically on ML, just AI in general.
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>take data warehousing MOOC course
>slave away at building a data warehouse constellation schema that meets the business requirements
>submit assignment for peer review
>few days later, start peer reviewing other assignments
>the very first thing i see is my assignment plagiarized by Ramesh Pooinloo Pajeet
>report to Coursera
>nothing happens, Pajeet passes the course

Yeah, MOOCs are bullshit.
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>>59408687
Everyone gets their education as they wish. Sometimes I prefer to listen to a lecture and do quizes and someties I like to just study the book. And you don't have to fucking cheat yourself, you imbecile.
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>>59408687
The problem with MOOC's is that you don't get actual college credit for them.
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>>59408872
>And you don't have to fucking cheat yourself, you imbecile.

You totally missed the point, idiot. You can print money in your basement, but I'm not going to accept it.

>>59408890
No, the problem with MOOCs is that they are trash and don't deserve to get college credit.
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>>59408919
>>59408687

Dude, real universities are even worse, they are completely overrun with cheating, it's fucking easy to cheat on any test no matter where you are. Get the fuck over it and stop making excuses for why you suck at learning
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>>59408953
I'm attending a real university, and no one cheats on final exams, faggot. Calculators, notes, and water bottles with labels aren't even allowed.

You're a lower class imbecile who thinks his MOOC cert toilet paper is worth more than dog shit.

>Dude, you looked at porn while your were mastrubating instead of using your imagination. You cheated yourself.
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>>59408754
I'm not retarded but I'm also not the one going out of my way to look for cheat repos. If they do end up being on the first page of results, why bother clicking them? Take the course without resorting to cheating.

Shit assignments are different things, as I'd doubt something like Stanford would put out shit assignments, because they'd definitely be in trouble for that. Pajeet courses on the other hand will get you nothing.

Anyways, MOOCs are there for learning and picking up new skills, almost nobody will put a MOOC on their resume, because to win over employers with "self teaching", you do need whatever certs apply to the certain industry you're trying to get into.
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>>59408989
>you do need whatever certs apply to the certain industry you're trying to get into.

Oh I get it. You're a "cert" guy who works in IT, who didn't go to uni, talking out of his ass. Shut the fuck up.

You just conceded that MOOCs are worthless because "almost nobody will put a MOOC on their resume." I know exactly what I would do if I saw a MOOC on a resume. I'd trash it.
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>>59408687
>cheat your way through the entire course
isn't the point of doing a MOOC to learn? why "cheat" when that is counter intuitive to what your goal is?
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>>59409009
Except people do put certs on resumes and not MOOCs. I don't understand why you're still raging over them. Is it because you paid for a few semesters at university while some pajeet can look at the same lectures online and for free?

How about you buckle down and stop thinking cheating is the way to anything?
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>>59408953
fucking this too. why the FUCK would you cheat in university, especially in a major course? you're paying for this! you want to be a developer / computer scientist and you need to cheat to pass? fuck you.
it's too goddamn easy for students to slip through and get a degree and they can't even do simple fizzbuzz.
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>>59409030
>>59409058

Why is everyone in this thread so stupid? Are you all underage? The fact that you can makes it worthless, not that you do or don't. Nobody in this thread understands economics.

>>59409052
Pajeet will be unemployable with his MOOCs, but still more employable than you since his in CS and not IT, the profession of obese neckbeards who failed calculus.
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>>59409077
>I've got no arguments so I have to resort to personal attacks
What is it with you and MOOCs? People learn from them, and that's it. Nobody uses them on their resume, and you're still pissed off? What do you want, an apology? "Sorry, I didn't realize you would throw resumes in the trash, I'll be sure to remember that."
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>>59409112
I made my argument in the OP.

If MOOCs have no utility other than learning, they should be free, i.e. worthless like I said.

What Stanford is doing to third world students is criminal.
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>fucking retard signs up for a mooc thinking it will be something he can put on his resume, gets pissed and rages on /g/ when he learns that isn't the case
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>>59409133
lol, do people seriously think they can take a bunch of MOOCs and get a real job? ahahahahwhahahahaha
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>>59409123
Which Stanford course is paid on Coursera? Shouldn't it be free on online.stanford.edu?
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>>59408983
>no one cheats

yeah I'm sure you're in college
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>>59409185
No one cheats on exams, faggot. Plenty of people cheat on assignments.
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>>59409221
dude you'd be surprised. my networks professor doesn't give a fuck. the students can easily turn on their computers or cheat off each other and he wouldn't notice.
it's one of those things where if you have integrity, you won't cheat, but otherwise a lot of situatinos in which you can get away with it.
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>>59409250
Lol tard. You go to a shit school. We never get to use computers during exams. We write code in fucking pencil.
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>>59409270
No. We don't use computers during the exam. However there are computers in front of us and one could easily discreetly use one with the shit professor not noticing or caring.
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>>59409295
>However there are computers in front of us

Shit school. Enjoy your unemployment.
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>when someone lists a dozen MOOCs on their LinkedIn
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>>59409323
my school is ABET accredited , fucktard. this one particular class is taught in a computer lab. 95% of the time nobody even has them turned on.
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>>59409323
No anon, you enjoy your unemployment, because you are so much of a failure you can't be around a computer without the temptation to google for the answers for your shit easy online course that a teenager could pass.
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>>59409363
Plenty of shitty state schools are accredited. But let's recap. You go to a school with uncaring profs, no test proctors or dedicated examination rooms. Sounds like a top notch institution.
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>>59408687
Isn't the point to learn the material? What difference does it make if you get credit for learning it?
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>>59408919
Nobody takes MOOCs to get a 'certificate' and nobody pays for them either. Ergo your thread is retarded.
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>>59409123
> If MOOCs have no utility other than learning, they should be free, i.e. worthless like I said.
They are free you mongrel.
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>>59409148
Why isn't that a option for third world students?
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>Going to college to learn
lol
I bet you actually put effort into getting good grades, too
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>>59408687
>there are people who cheat at life
>there are people that never learn anything
>there are millionaires w/o a degree
>there are social geniuses who know shit, but get hired everywhere
>there are people with shit degrees making 100k+
>there are people with CS degrees in mom's basement
>people cheat at MOOCs so it's shit
That's great op. Tell me more.
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>>59408744
>Coursera contacted people who completed the most courses and got the highest scores and tried to get them jobs at biggest companies
citation?

I would love to read about this
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CS229?
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>>59408687
>You can cheat your way through the entire course

>I COULDN'T NOT CHEAT THEREFORE MOOCS ARE WORTHLESS!!

Go back to mexico/africa if you can't cut it in America
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>>59411920
More like "it's easy to cheat, therefore man who mentions he completed this course knows nothing".
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If you really wanted to learn, you wouldn't need to take the course. The material's all online, available to the public.
The issue is your lack of motivation.
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I think they were much better few years ago when they didn't put all the grading behind the paywalls and starting shelling out certs for them. Eventually i'm afraid they might start putting some of the course material behind paywalls too.
Monetization just turns things into shit.
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>>59408687
Exam is easy,homeworks are 10-15 hr/wk.
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>tfw moocs were like an extension of mit ocw some academic and noble.
>tfw now they reek of marketing and professional development.
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>>59409009
>I know exactly what I would do if I saw a MOOC on a resume. I'd trash it.
I know exactly what I would do if I saw you IRL. I'd punch you in the face.

I've seen resumes filled with degrees, stages, past experiences, hobbies AND MOOCs. It's a nice way to complement your CV better than "I also like hiking" or "I like to work in team" or "I like animals" (I've seen shit like this in actual CVs)

Whilst only a fool would rely on MOOCs exclusively, it's not a bad presentation at all if used as a complement to something else (a degree, a bunch of certs if you're in IT)

>>59409153
I don't know about which course OP is talking about, in general afaik every course on coursera is free, only the certification is paid
even courses which seem to be paid only aren't paywalled, you just won't be able to go trough assignments/get grades
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