Why is SystemD so shit? Convince me to install Gentoo.

Systemd is alright.
I don't have anything in particular against it.

Install gentoo.

>>59389361
>takes forever to compile shit
Why should I go through the trouble?

systemd is actually not that bad. its just autists who scream botnet at the slightest gust of wind that hate it. also something about the creator being a jew.

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>>59389377
Install gentoo.

>>59389387
But moot is a jew and he founded 4chan. Those same fags don't leave, sadly, so there must be a real reason, surely?

Are there any downsides to using openRC?

>>59389414
who is moot?

>>59389433
He founded 4chan

>>59389439
what's a 4chan?

>>59389451
Lol pretty sure you're trolling now. 4chan is the website we're currently on.

>>59389460
>trolling now
oh my you are slow

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I'm using systemd on Gentoo and it's awesome.

>>59389468
Lol so you were trolling all along? Good one, you got me. lol

>>59389357
>>59389335
>>59389478
CIA niggers.

Here are some reasons
1. Feature creep
2. Scope creep
3. Narcissist developers
4. Needlessly complicated
5. For me at least, it breaks more often that sysvinit ever did. I use runit now.

>>59389335
Why do we need to keep having this thread over and over again? You already know every single piece of information both for and against systemd. If you don't (and let's face it, you do), they're a simple internet search away.

If you're asking this question, you already have your answer.

>>59389387
>systemd is not bad
>autists who scream botnet
Fuck off Lennart

>>59389335
>change fstab
>system will no longer boot as systemd shits the bed

>>59389478
Same guy every thread claiming he uses gentoo with systemd.

The sad thing is, these people think they're going to convince anyone to install their botnet.

We know. It's too late. The migration away from Linux has started, even (((intel))) knows the gig is up and is trying to get its filthy hands into FreeBSD development.

>>59389377
You don't have to compile if you don't want to. The beauty of Gentoo is you have choice in everything including which init you choose to use.

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>>59389335
Convinced?

>>59389748
This happens too frequently. I really loathe how systemd has become a "standard" for businesses. It's fucking disgusting. No wonder everyone is jumping ship to FreeBSD.

>>59389818
>everyone jumping ship to FreeBSD
I hate systemd too, but source?

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>>59389818
>No wonder everyone is jumping ship to FreeBSD

>>59389818
>No wonder everyone is jumping ship to FreeBSD.
How much do you get paid and are you looking for workers?

>>59389818
Nobody's jumping to freebsd on account of freebsd having fuckall support for common hardware.

>>59390959
>>59389919
>>59389840
Samefag

>>59389764
If you are too retarded to see that person is trolling, then you need to take a break from 4chan. I pretty much guarantee you that person does not expect other people to genuinely believe he uses systemd on gentoo except the most retarded of posters here. You literally just took his obvious bait.

>>59389335
Alpine > Gentoo

I use in arch too lazy to change of init, ones that I like is a runit and openrc

>>59389818
>>59389764
Same guy every thread trying to encourage and/or scare people away from using Linux. Of course he will deny this and say he uses Linux, just like he always does, but that doesn't make it true.

After some observation, here are the most powerful arguments against systemd I have seen so far

>poettering is sjw
>poettering on full damage control
>CIA nigger!
>I can't explain why it's bad, but just trust me it is.
>It's already been stated many times why it's bad (I just can't actually point to any occurrences of this)
>muh bloat (I swear this means something that can be measured objectively, I just don't know how)
>systemd has a lot of features and I hate features

>>59394323
This is a very real case of deliberate ignorance on your part. Or you're just being disingenuous.

>>59394323
cia nigger is a valid argumet

>>59389399
stallman actually dislikes gentoo

>>59389748
>fucks up fstab
>wonders why pc don't boot.

>>59389478
literally this

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>>59389357
>>59389387
>>59389478
>>59389685
>>59390959
>>59391788
>>59393765
>>59393902
>>59394323

>>59396437
I previously believed systemd was a good piece of software, however this compelling comic changed my mind

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>>59396467
I'll write a paper on the merits of a systemd-less system while also touching upon the positive effects diversiry in the init-game would have on the FOSS ecosystem. Give me a moment.

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systemd-free .org

>>59389335
I am using systemd on Gentoo. I like it more than openrc.

>>59396437
Oh the irony.

>>59389335
Go ahead. Install Gentoo.

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd

>>59397098
I am going to go back to Gentoo and I might even give System Donald a go. Right now I need new memory modules. Once that's done I'm trying it.

>>59389335
I'm using systemd on Gentoo.

>>59393765
If you can wait 6 hours I can post a screenshot of my PC running Gentoo GNU/systemd/X11/Linux.

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>>59394708

>>59389335
Gentoo is not mutually exclusive with SystemD

t. gentoo+systemd user

I'm using Arch so I've switched to systemd years ago. I don't notice it at all, it just works, I don't know why this is even an issue.

>>59389485
>>59389460
>>59389439
>>/reddit/

>>59389502
>runit
>member of supervision family
>based DJB owns Poettering's wispy faggot ass as far back as 1996
this.

>>59389335
>>59389361
>>59389377
>>59389428
>>59389478
>>59389764
>>59389772
>>59394708
>>59397098
>>59397671
>>59397691
>>59397713
>>59397931
>>59398037
>>59398084

Alpine Linux.

>install is measured in megabytes
>option to run from USB stick or CD, store data state on drive
>current software, rarely stale
>has container and Xen options
>uses based svelte musl libc instead of faggot bloaty glibc
>OpenRC out of the box
>support for s6, use a real fucking supervisor with OpenRC
>security hardened

>>59400484
How can I pre-modify the extended alpine distro so I don't need to configure everything every time I launch it on a USB?

Basically a bootable USB that wipes all changes on reboot, like Tails. I can do that no problem, just no idea how to pre-modify it and keep the current changes.

>>59389357
kill yourself poettering

>>59400754
I haven't done anything like that, but couldn't you just add a bash script to the iso?

>>59401175
Probably but, I'm just gonna install everything, then

cp -ax / /mnt/sda/alpinitramfs

and rebuild the initramfs in my main system and replace it on the USB.

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>>59389818
>Everybody jumping to bsd.
>Shill harder, dickhead.

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So.
Is there anything actually wrong with systemd, or is all this noise simply bsd shills?

>>59401215
Actually no, I'm retarded. Alpine has a tool for making a custom initramfs. You can install it by

apk add mkinitfs

, but you'll need to replace it on a different system obviously so use the -o flag and copy it over.

>>59401267
Unaudited code
Potential backdoors
Fucks the SRP in the arse
Forced unnecessary dependencies

>>59401397
>Unaudited code
>Potential backdoors
FUD
>Fucks the SRP in the arse
Things that had to fucked in the ass.
>Forced unnecessary dependencies
BSD can have Gnome, so why so insecure?

http://suckless.org/sucks/systemd

https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/10/msg00001.html

>>59402305
>implying sysv wasn't full of shit

Systemd break unix philosophy

>>59402902
So?