>Final months of uni >Good grades >Pretty good at programming

>>59368773
I've always found that at soon as I started studying something in school or doing it as a job it immediately stops being a fun hobby

>>59368773
If you hate it you probably don't automate enough.

>>59368811
u ought to work in industry
then its blood, punishment
sickness, death

>>59368773
Programming is a tool.

Find a job where you're not asked to hammer a nail, but to build a house.

>>59368972
>where bricks are node.js dependencies

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Same here. I can literally feel 9 hours of my life being squandered every weekday, especially now that I finally have friends and a loving gf.

>>59369032

>Building a "house" with poo

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I like it, though

>>59369047
Be glad it's only 9 hours.

>>59368773
No I spend 8 hours a day writing code, then go home and watch anime and play video games. You have to be autistic to work for free in your own time.

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>>59368773
It's pretty rewarding when you git good at it, and your code/debug cycles become quicker and more successful

>>59369185
I do enjoy the final product, but not the process.
>Shit doesn't work
>No idea why
>3h later you find it's because of a single statement you forgot to comment out 2 weeks ago

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>>59368773
Welcome to the real world.

The real satisfaction in programming comes when you're out of university and get some exposure to an industry environment. When you're working, you'll be building useful things instead of just completing assignments / being assessed.

As far as personal projects go, if you're lucky and skilled you could end up creating a valuable asset that generates money so you don't ever have to work again. This is what entices me to keep grinding away at my personal projects

>>59369330
Learn how to properly use a debugger idiot.

>>59369330
Yeah I had a bug like that that lingered for a few days recently. If I become really stumped, I'll leave it alone and work on something else. This gives my brain a nice rest and usually after that, if I come back to the problem, I can solve it quickly.

>>59369436
>Work on something for 6 hours
>Shit just doesn't work
>Rebase project and ragequit
>Start next day again
>Done in 20 mins

>>59368773
Don't work full time 9-5 if you are also coding as a hobby. Make a startup or work as a freelancer.

This is your fault for being a coward.

>>59369463
>doesn't understand basic cognitive processes

that is how it works for literally every fucking human being

>>59369047

did you include commuting, my work day is more like 12 hours from go to woah

>>59369480
>9-5
More like 9-7... just kill me.

>>59369331
>satisfaction

dealing with a world of shit (legacy systems), incompetent management who are barely qualified & hate you because they know that you are more skilled than they will ever be .. backstabbing, theft

>>59370506
the absolute garbage which is infastructure now (being mainly microsoft) .. projects that are dead before they even start

pointless wastage of life .. minimal meaningful code

working a round frameworks which are theirselves the problem; not being allowed to redesign anything

>>59370641
being so tired/drained dispirited @ the end of each day that you can't function
needing alcohol
having no sense of humour at all anymore
I do not miss it at all

>>59368773
If you hate it now..how do you think you're going to feel being sat in an office for 8+ hours a day 5 days a week for work?

>>59370684
dealing with absolute sociopaths - the worst, most marginal "gadget kid", that you knew from school, they're all software managers. they hate you and they will fuck around with you deliberately to entertain theirselves, because there is nothing going on in their tiny fucked, non-progressive little worlds

welcome to public sector I.T

>>59370716
private no better
stunning levels of ignorance and systems that are disgusting heaps of undocumented, successively extended complexity that nobody gives a damn about

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Anyone else get triggered by the flaws in the pattern in OPs pic?

>>59371221
nO.
Why would I

>>59368773
>how autistic one has to be to enjoy sitting 8h a day writing code and debugging shit
getting paid $180k a year for it helps desu

>>59369058
never go full pajeet

keep that shit to the designated street

>>59372823
Where do you make $180k?

>>59373321
bro we all work at google and make at the very least 150k a year here

>>59373380
Anon speaks the truth

>>59373321
99 percent of coders will be making closer to ~50k working 60+ hours on-call 24-7 for a startup with 20-something yuppies, pretentious hipsters, pajeets, no benefits, etc. Then that will go belly up and you'll jump ship to another one and start all over again.

>>59373321
They pay you 180k when you become the slavemaster

>>59374420
They pay 180k for new code monkeys right out of college.

>>59368773
should have studied wood working or plumbing like your dad said you should. the world has no shortage of good journeymen

> then go home and work on one's hobby project.

only crazy people do that.

Most developers I've worked with, myself included, don't even want to think about code or logic or problem solving when not at work.

I enjoy sitting 8h a day writing code & debugging cause it's better than sitting 8h a day filling out irrelevant paperwork, and generally pays better.

>>59374630
no they don't. stop giving people false hope.

>>59377204

my grad job was $120k aud out of uni working with IR

hard to move up from there

>>59377204
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-salary-for-graduates-starting-at-Google-in-2016

>>59377260
>40k equity
That doesn't vest until one year in or so. Also, 170k in NY is enough for a cardboard box.

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>>59377279
Not everyone has to live in the center of Manhattan.

>>59377196
Yea, you have to realise there are more things in life no matter how passionate you are with programming.

Well how about you stop crying and do something else.

>>59368773
Yeah, but what would you rather do?

Physical labour?

Be an office drone that will be automated in a few years?

>>59380265
Certs and T2/T3 support