Is Intel finished?

>>59338412

By continuing to dominate marketshare.

>>59338412
> Vega Nano = 1080ti
aHahahahahahaahahaha

Vega nano equivalent is maybe overocked 970. Even then amd wod struggle

>>59338523
Have fun paying $200 in an expensive useless piece of crap while I'll be doing the exact same thing with my Vega Nano.

Intel fanboys are the saddest posters around.

>>59338594
You are goint to pay 400$ to do "exact same thing" ? Are you retarded?

>>59338673
AMD makes products in relation so what customers actually need.

Intel make expensive products no one needs.

It doesn't matter if on the benchmarks Intel is ahead... no one needs this extra power. AMD are actually the smart ones here but you're too dumb to understand it.

>You are goint to pay 400$ to do "exact same thing" ?
Yes, I am going to pay $200 less to do the exact same thing.

>>59338412
Where do AMDrones like you get such bullshit information like this?

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>>59338720
>customers actually need
>8 cores

>>59338412
>How can Intel even compete?
State subsidized purchases and marketing, same as usual.

>>59338844
If AMD really get their shit together, these tactics won't work like they did in the past.

>>59338747
It's like you don't watch/play movies, games, music, and shitpost all at the same time...

>>59338412
heh. i always find entertaining these threads.

i was born in a poor third world shithole, so of course the 1700 is 500, the 1700x is 630, and the 1800x is 750.

the 7700 is 385, and the 7700k is 450 dollars.

go fuck yourselves

>>59338873

>If AMD really get their shit together

hahhaha fffffuck me thanks for the laugh

>>59338964
Intel cuck detected

>>59338876
I'm on AMDs side but multi-core != multitasking.

This is OS 101, wait until you're above 18 to post uere

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>>59338412
Are you retarded? That shit is way faster than AMD.

>>59339202
>way faster
>13 fps

also
>gaymes

>>>/v/

>>59338964
They will. Intel and Nvidia are overrated.

>>59339274
>Intel and Nvidia are overrated.
I agree

>They will.
I hope.

>>59339232
It's 20% faster for the same price.

Literally no reason to buy anything AMD.

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is it?

latest 1080ti benches

>>59339322
Fuck Ryzen. Why the fuck does have to suck that much?

>>59338941
hue?
the 1800x came out at 742 usd here.
I found it to be pretty good pricing.

the 7700k can be found as low as 445, but that's on a good deal. it's usually found at 470~, I've been looking for while deciding between upgrade paths.

>>59339361
where do you see it sucking? its at the top more often than i7 7700K

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>>59339322
>>59339392
It's a rigged benchmark, look at their methodology, they disabled a ton of settings.

This is what happens in real life.

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>>59339417
so did guru3d rigged their benchmark too when they did review of gtx1080ti?

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_1080_ti_review,31.html

>>59339317
>Literally no reason to buy anything AMD.
Personal preference
Liking the color red
AMD synergy performance gains
Not liking intel's price:performance
Already have the motherboard. (read: hundreds of dollars more isn't worth 4% performance gain)
Exchanging money for a product with a company that you like more than the alternative.
etc

>>59339392
I saw a lot of benchmarks, and it's too often under the 7700K, in terms of performances. Sometimes even under the 6700K, and it has the same clock. How is that possible? How can single-core performances be so low? Wasn't it supposed to have the same IPC as Skylake/Kaby Lake?

>>59339451
Sure they did. Every benchmarks that shows Ryzen winning is paid by AMD.

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>>59339451
Nope, only eteknix and joker were caught rigging their benchmarks so far

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>>59339417
>i swear guise, they're cheating when they win.
>no fair ~

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>>59339457
>Not liking intel's price:performance

Umm

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>>59339487
good to know that guru3d counts then

>>59339497
Notice how the eteknix review is literally the only one out of hundreds of reviews to get those results

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>>59339513
Yes very good lol

>>59339540
>1080p

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>>59339555
Here have some 1440p

Ryzen is horrible

>>59339507
cost per FPS
ON A FUCKING CPU.

remove yourself from the gene pool and please, please, don't forget to take any progeny you might already have doomed us with on your way out.

>>59339582
Keep telling yourself that.

>>59338412
why did you steal my post and made a thread out of it?

Also, the 1080ti is $699

>>59339700
For the (You)s.

>>59339597
Sorry about your autism

>>59338412
Who cares about about core numbers? Absolue performance is all that mayters.

>>59338523
>970
>They have cards that beat the 970 already
>learntobaitsubtly.jpg

>>59338412
intel jews, gassed and gone.

>>59341204
rofl what the fuck goy

>>59338412
Enjoy the bottlenecking

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>>59339507
>cost per fps

>>59338412
Are those real cores or is AMD still trying to ruse people with their shitty gimped half cores?

>>59339487
>deus ex
>on windows

wow it's fucking nothing.

>>59341807
They had an adult design the architecture this time.

They hired back Jim Keller.

>>59339507
Was that 480p or 4K?

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>>59339487
> joker were caught rigging
How? And don't start with that aussie cunt non-arguments?

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>>59341157

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>>59338941
>7700k is 450 dollars

>>59338412
Is the largest microprocessor company in the world finished?

No, don't be such a stupid fucking retard.

>>59339317
streaming

>>59342154
>largest microprocessor company
That would be apple

>>59342189
The bait

>>59339191
How is that os 101

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>>59339417
That benchmark is fake.

When 1080ti takes up, 1080 will be same price as vega or whatever shit amd pumps out

>>59338412
1700x is 400

7700k 350, cheaper still if you look around

>>59344805
Synthetic
Ynthetic
Nthetic
Thetic
Hetic
Etic
Tic
Ic
C

>>59338412
> 1080ti - $599
I think you mean $699

>>59344913
1700 is 329 though

>>59338720
I'm buying Intel because I actually need computing power.

>>59338412
Those threads aren't necessary, you're not tricking anybody.

The mere fact that Intel hasn't lowered their prices only shows how shitty Ryzen's launch was.

Nvidia only cuts prices so they can make room for their newest more powerful GPUs.

It is AMD that always does the price cuts anon ;)

>>59338412
>1080ti - $599


lol wat?

>>59342024
Literally no reason to buy Intel.

>>59338412
Holy shit, Intel btfo;

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>>59338412
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHA

RIPTEL

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>>59338430
fpbp

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>>59338412

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>>59338412
germany

>>59348391
>germany
My condolences.

>>59348391
Top kek, it's almost as if the jews are still taking revenge on you

>>59338412

>Vega Nano

double meme'd

what is a vega nano? did amd released vega already?

>>59339597
>>59341759
Holy fuck look at these amd drones BTFO

>stop comparing performance in real world tests! Look at these square root and array sorting tests instead!

>>59350653
who the fuck compares the cost of a cpu with the fps it produced?

are you fucking insane? this is what the gpus are for

>>59350680
Your theory crafting doesn't match the data.

>use same gpu in the tests
>results in huge performance differences

Looks like the cpu does matter.

>>59338412
When it comes to workstations AMD wiped the floor with Intel.

>>59350721
>huge

same site posts a 5% difference in overall perfomance

goes then to produce a cost per fps that elliminates the 5% and instead installs a healty 17%
sure thing seems legit..so legit that only pcgamer thought of that

>>59350564
Accordingly to some rumors, it's between a 1080Ti and a 1080, but at a much lower tdp.

>>59338720
>Nobody needs fast computers
AMD shills will actually defend this

>>59350772
I don't think you're understanding the implications.

If ryzen fails at both being competitive in performance compared to the top dogs, and fails at even being a good value, then what does ryzen have going for it?

>>59342147
No kidding pal Brazilian taxes made my 1080 from 700 to magically 1000$.

It's not enough to live in a poor shit hole, the government overtax you. Plus this is the price without VAT.

>>59350803
that card that got on today is an underclocked vega at 1200mhz with 4096 shaders

it cant be a nano its the real deal

>>59350864
being 5% behind the a 7700k on gaming doesnt say absolutely anything

especially if you consider that it has A LOT of problems

if you think its a fail being 5% behind despite everything well i have bad news for you

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>>59350890
>he doesn't understand dollar per performance

>>59350865
Br nigger here, I remember the day the RX480 released, some people bought it for R$4000 (US 1200)

Top kok, the best part is tablets, remember when there was a law called "lei do bem", I got my iPad for 2000 dilmas at the time, now the base model iPad is 3500 temers.

>>59350936
What the fuck are you even saying?

>>59350924
price for perf on a cpu is a WHOLE range of things idiot

price for fps on a cpu IS JUST RETARDED as you are

>>59350988
>performance where performance actually matters is a bad judgment of performance

Ok, maybe you should leave since you don't know anything about computing.

>>59351039
seriously if you want to have a decent convo get your shit together and stop advocating that gaming is the only thing that matters

back to /v/ before ryzen makes your asshole so big that thor will use it as a portal to asgard

>>59351068
Then post a benchmark of dollar per video rendering time or whatever niche shit that less than 5% of the market cares about.

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>>59338594
>people expecting the normal version of Vega to be as good as the 1080ti
>no wait it's worse retards actualy believe a Nano version of it will be as good as the 1080ti
AHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

>>59351099
my point exactly no one does this shit you are advocating a stupid chart made to showcase ONLY ONE thing on a part that is desinged to do a lot more stuff...

its like me getting a gpu and create a chart price per LLC and DRAM requests

sounds sane?

>>59351138
>no one plays games on their pc

Jesus, this is the denial level that amd drones have reached?

>>59351179
tell me one cpu that is good only for gaming and doesnt do anything else

How important is the video card for video editing, I plan on getting an r7 1700, but I don't know what to pair it with. Will a 1050ti be fine?

>>59348319

The sad part?

[Spoiler]I'm a die hard AMD fan, I'm just not a delusional die hard AMD fan.[/Spoiler]

>>59351192
List one real world thing the ryzen excels at then.

>>59351287

i see your stupidity and i ryzen more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njm0MBOwFTM&t=1s

lets see 4 unreal 2 games and 2 unreal 3 games..

name a 7700k that can actually run so many games

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>>59351307
>ask for real world performance
>posts a video of someone running 8 games at the same time

>>59351367
>posts gaming results
>posts gaming stupid charts
>ask for proofs
>proof delivered

no doesnt count

>>59338594
I don't think it's any sadder than all the Amd investors trying to overhype and pump and dump their stock

>>59351381
No one runs more than 1 game at the same time in the real world. Sorry, that's not a real world test.

>>59351395
its running 6 games on unreal 2 and 3 that is known to be heavy on the cpu

the system is taxed beyond understanding

still is smooth as fuck

>not a real world test

also people that play mmo most surely will play 2+ games

>>59351443
>still can't come up with any real world test.

This is just sad. You have to come up with these ridiculous ways in which to over tax the cpu that no one would actually do when using their pc normally. You may as well have posted cinebench benchmarks.

>>59351488
you know i usually have fun arguing with shills but you are just boring

no facts
no evidence to show
literally nothing only 2 pictures from a site that is being know to shill

>>59351508
That's 2 more charts than you have.

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>Vega Nano
>399$

Stopped reading here

It's kinda ironic, that a technology board features the most people with low intelligence.

>>59338412
>g4560
>gtx 1050
<$170 and 1080p is fine. Fuck off paying multiple times that for meme resolutions. My whole build this year costs less than Vega.

>>59338412
and yet nobody buys amd

really makes you think

>>59351131
> Fury
> Better than 980ti on many titles
> huuuur it's impossible for Vega to beat the 1080ti
kek, enjoy being a fucking retard...

>>59338412
>Oh look AMD shills
>Oh look "Way better performance, way better price!!!!"
>Oh look market share is going to hell and being fucked by Nvidia
>Oh look company trying it's best to compete by forcing it's consumers to buy cheap graphics which in return gains them no profit

So how long will it last?

>>59350936
>dilmas
>temers
lamo dafuq am i reading

>>59338412
1080ti is 699

>>59350936
Go back to whence you came, subhuman.

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>>59350865
>poor shithole that overtax everything
Salam aleikum my Swedish brothet

>>59351488
>people that play mmo most surely will play 2+ games
>still can't come up with any real world test

You're beyond retarded.

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>>59352592
It wins in a couple of titles when you compare stock v stock, and gets absolutely smashed when you remember that GM200 can overclock while all Fiji can do is pull more power.

Nice try though AMDrone.

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>>59353963
>1080ti is 699
Literally no reason to buy that overpriced excrement then.

>>59356391
> absolutely smashed
> 4 fps
AYY LMAO

I've been looking for a thread this question would fit in and I feel like this is the most suitable. Is there any laptop out there with an intel 7700k, a 1080ti, full hd 1080p that is under $1200? Let me know if these are not the right types of questions for /g/

>>59358158
oh and with 12-16gb of ram thanks for any replies.

>>59358158
>>59358190
Of course not, for that price you will only get a 1050ti, or a 1060 if you're lucky.

Gtx 1080 laptops are usually around $2000

you pay $200 for fast hevc encode, shadowplay, aes, quicksync and another shits

>>59358661
better than paying $300 for 7fps

>>59358661
>fast hevc encode
While sacrificing quality because LOL Quicksync and LOL NVENC.
>shadowplay
OBS, Plays.TV, ReLive
>aes
AMD has AES, wtf you on about.
>quicksync
been over
>other shits
gimmicks are not features

>>59358602
>Gtx 1080 laptops are usually around $2000
Jesus fucking Christ

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>>59342628
Probably because modern hardware is able to do all of those things at once without a hiccup. A lot of it has to do with how the software utilizes the hardware, and the operating system and everything it runs is software.

You might have an okay desktop from at least 5 or 6 years ago run GTAV at minimal settings and be playable, but not pleasant enough for your liking at around 30 FPS, mostly because it's not trying to load everything at once with the occasional low-res world right on top of you. But once that thing starts running Fallout 4 as low as possible, you're going to have one hell of an unpleasant time. You'll get around 30 FPS, but watch as it tries to render every possible detail it can find without any visible settings to turn off a lot of that. Good luck with the urban areas too, and pray that your system doesn't shut off to avoid overheating.

All of the things that was mentioned can easily be done in 4 cores with 8 threads, so long as the software you're running is optimized and running on multiple threads.

>>59358924
I'm not the guy you responded to but ReLive has HEVC encoding. Supporting like 240fps at 1080p or something encoding.

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>How can Intel even compete?
>he thinks Intel has competition
>oh you

>>59348341
Anomuumi tunnistettu'd.

>>59338720
>AMD makes products in relation so what customers actually need.
>
>Intel make expensive products no one needs.

oh that all data you have to support your viewpoint fuck it's overwhelming

>more cores = more power
kek

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>>59351099
They can't even come close there. You can get a dual Xeon E5 2670 system for $600.
Ryzen competes against 1.

>>59338412
1700x is 400. where are people getting these numbres from?

>>59361723
>Xeon E5 2670
thats really compelling, can you get a board with ddr4 support tho?

>>59361767
Encoding isn't memory speed limited.

>>59361598
>he only plays games

kek

>>59361782
*also the E5-2670 is quad-channel.

Quality board you have here.
Thanks, mods.

>>59338412
>How can Intel even compete?
Marketing, vendor lock-in and the simple fact that the i7 7700k cruses the 1700X on performance.

It's also interesting to note that the i7 7700k is a $410 part and the R7 1700 is too while the 1700X you mention goes for $500.

These are fascist union prices converted to USD.

The prices of these parts are not relevant to me personally, though. Intel has some i5's that are 2x as fast as my current system for $220-$250. AMD doesn't have anything that competes with those.

>>59361902
> AMD doesn't have anything that competes with those
> What is Ryzen 5/3

>>59361752
Amazon

Hahahahahah MFW paid 470 usd for a 1800x because my retailers don't know how to convert currency

>>59338412
why are you comparing these two CPUs while i7-7700k is objectively faster and better than 1700x?

>>59338747
8 cores? 4 cores? Who needs 2 cores? Just take your one core and leave

>>59363701
Literally nobody needs more than one core :^)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

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>>59361902

>>59363701
The iPad Pro has two cores, and still is faster than most gaming pc's

>>59364315
DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW!!!!

>>59364315
> AMD: 16MB L3
> Intel: 8MB L3
AYYYY LMAOOOOO

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>>59364315
>$499 = €569 because lol 19% VAT

STOP THIS

>>59339202
>FPS
I use my CPU to batch process thousands of large files for work. Is there a test made for adults?

What the fuck is going on? I can't find anything from AMD happening.

>>59364825
American prices don't include vat, vat gets added at checkout depending.
So 499 is a meme unless you live in a state that has no sales tax.

>>59364832
Check anandtech.

>>59350653
>Comparing an Elephant by its ability to climb a tree
Ryzen excells in actual work and is decent for gaming get over yourself

>>59339497
Its like the 2016 US election and Brexit
>No matter what happens, we should accept the results of Brexit
>Britain votes to leave the EU
>FUCK OLD PEOPLE AND THEIR STUPID RIGGING EVEN THOUGH THE MAJORITY OF VOTER FRAUD WAS IN THE MILLENIAL BRACKET I WANT TO STAY IN THE EU WHERE WE GET FLOODED BY MUDSLIMES
>No matter whatever happens, we should accept the results of the election
>Trump gets elected
>RIGGED BY RUSSIANS AND MEMES AND POL EVEN THOUGH HILARY CALLED HALF THE AMERICAN POPULATION DEPLORABLE RACIST SCUM AND BURNED BRIDGES WITH ANY SKEPTCAL REPUBLICANS I WAS WITH HER WAAAAH
>We should accept the result of the Ryzen vs Kaby Lake/Broadwell-E CPU showdown
>Benchmarks come out showing Ryzen beating Kaby Lake and ~85% of the perf of Broadwell-E for 30-50% of the price of Broadwell-E
>RIGGED BENCHMARKS THEY DISABLED SETTINGS EVEN THOUGH BENCHES SHOWING INTEL BEATING RYZEN ARE ALMOST ALWAYS AT STOCK CLOCKS AND 4C/8T OPTIMISED

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>>59351131
agreed. vega is going to be competing with 1180ti volta lololol stay mad aspie

How much can the Ryzen 7 1700 overclock with the stock Wraith cooler?

>>59364890
>He's buying the $500 one
>Not the $330 one
OC the 1700.

>>59365007
>tfw no skellington gf to go hiking with
what is life even

>>59351971

>meme resolutions

What does that even mean?

>59361834
>I want AMD """shill""" threads to be deleted
>I am OK with Intel shilling
Who is the real shill here?

can we finally agree that 1700 is amazing value sweetspot between 7700 NOT K and 7700K
1700x is if you are AMD fan and do not want to OC basically half mad
and 1800x is either pants on had retarded buy if all you do is gaming or you need 8 cores for work

and 7700K is irrelevant in a year tier

>>59365010
3.9

>>59365010
some report 4.0
but it probably at 80C
3.9 is about 70C

>>59364618
>babby's first shitpost

>>59353938
It's some ancient form of currency, invaluable objects which have been assigned a virtual value, to be traded for items which do have a real value.
>>59360044
Multi-threading doesn't increase performance in 90% of games. Multi-threading is actually a stupid feature that only slightly helps in a very few uses, it's real purpose is so retards will buy shitty overpriced laptops because they think 4 threads is the same as 4 cores.

>>59345385
Computing power generally refers to multicore systems, not highly clocked quad cores for gaming

>>59351287
Are you for real? Workstation tasks benefit from extra threads and solid cache, which is what Ryzen offers. Sure, many people doing those kinds of workloads would need the extra pcie lanes of x99 for things like running multi-gpu molecular simulations which would fully saturate the pcie bandwidth, and may also be using multiple pcie ssds or fiber cards, but for someone who doesnt have the funds for that much hardware (and generally that amount of hardware would be funded by and for a laboratory anyway) Ryzen offers amazing price/performance. Someone with a 6900k wouldnt build a Ryzen PC, but thats because there isnt anything that is a worthy upgrade for someone with a 6900k (and cost isnt much of a factor).

>>59338747
Of course, I use Gentoo and I NEED MOAR CORES AND RAM