LMAO, Ryzen is already causing a severe bottleneck at 4k.

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>>59326324
DELET PLS

>>59326324
Why don't they mention which intel they used?

Also I thought the gaming Ryzens would be the R5s because theoretically they should be able to achieve higher clock speeds thanks to less heat and less cores.

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>>59326324
ITS NOT FAIR GUYS

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Intel DED

>>59327459
It's written thete 6700k. r5 won't hve higher clock than r7 because the limitation is the voltage you can push. The process amd used to make their cpus have better perf/watt below 3.5Ghz but shit the bed at higher clock.

>>59326324
Ryzen is so fucking horrible, I'm constantly amazed at how bad it really is.

>>59326324
The fuck? I get ~90 FPS with my 1800X and twin 980 Ti's at 1440p.

>>59326324
>45 fps at 1080p
something tells me they don't have an error free testbed....

>>59326324
>single game benchmark

upvoted ;)

amd fanboys will just shill the next meme resolution (5k and 8k)

>>59328927

im pretty happy with my 1080 and my 1700 overclocked.

the difference i noticed in performance when gaming at 1440p 144hz g-sync was that the dips i got with my 6700k are gone. the overall fps appears to be about 5-10fps lower but its way more consistant.

Something else i noticed. i can render out a movie iin premiere while gaming and its still smooth AF. i could never do this on the 6700k lol, and i had that at 4.5ghz.

im glad i changed to AMD :)

I'm still gonna go from a 6700k to 1800x just because I need more cores for work related. A loss of 5-10 fps really makes 0 diffierence in games.

>>59328927
Just wait 8 years, surely AMD will have fixed Ryzen by then

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>>59329820
It's not just games bucko

>>59329792
Most likely because even through the amd has low avarage fps. It is not 100% usage on all cores.

Meanwhile 50% core usage on r7 so less chance to cause stutter

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>>59326324
>caring about 4K meme for gaymurs

lel

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>>59329948
How about 1080p?

>>59329918

yeah maybe. you can even see it in ops pic.

>>59329959

>still posting that bench of an early bugged review.

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>>59330151
Lmao all the reviews show the same thing

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>>59330335

ok.

>>59327469
Fuck me whats going on with AMD Ryzen optimization? Guess its gonna be like the old 290 and 390x days where we have to wait fucking years to go back and play games.

Thank god i got my 390x just before that horrid 480 launch

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>>59330350
Sadly that is literally a rigged benchmark.

Look at their methodology:

"in the interest of fairness, any technology which favours either AMD or NVIDIA is disabled. More specifically, this refers to PhysX, Hairworks and more. "

Meanwhile in real benchmarks.

>>59330379
You tell me I buy a GTX1080 Ti and I should not enable any PhysX or Hairworks effect when I play games?

>damage control
>the thread

>>59330350

all credibility eteknix had is now out the window. it was always a trash site tbqh.

>>59330379
so ur saying that if i buy amd im losing 2 average frames in games while also blowing any intel cpu the fuck out at anything multithreaded?

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>>59327469
>Using different GPUs to compare CPU performance

>>59330789
>all credibility eteknix had is now out the window.
because some random polaks with weird numbers that make no sense for 6700k either made a claim, okay

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>phonesposters

Never have I seen so many people become so angry and upset that there is more competition in the CPU market.

>>59326324
...Should we tell him about X99?

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>>59326324
oh look, it's that polish nvidia/intel shill site that said that my fury x performs like shit in games like gta 5, meanwhile I can run it at 4k with no problems

>>59326324
This is obviously fake. All other reviewers showed Ryzen getting well over 60fps in those games. They aren't going to suddenly drop at 4K.

>>59330854
are you retarded?

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>>59330379
Meanwhile, in application+gaming benchmarks.

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>>59327469
>>59326324
>Nvidia paid game (Hitman) artifically throttles AMD CPU
>AMD optimised game from before Ryzen got released is capable of getting max out of any CPU
dirty little jews

>>59326324
FAKE NEWS

>>59331342
You have forgoten the Ryzen 9

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So basically all Intel/Nvidia sponsored software (like Hitman or anything adobe) are running like shit on AMD hardware, but everything either independent or sponsored by AMD gets maximum out of any hardware it's given.

Seriously, have a look at which games Ryzen loses in, and in which it wins, and then have a look at whose logo is on the cover. Either Intel/Nvidia are really shit with code optimisation, or they are doing a shit job intentionally.

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Your graphs are not graphs

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not graphs

>>59328898
This is true, I get more frame rate than that with a fucking 12 core datacenter Xeon which has single core performance comparable to a fucking FX 8350.

Why everyone cares so much about games?
This is literally the last thing PC should be used for.

and i was wondering when the shill will post

>>59330379
>Sadly that is literally a rigged benchmark.


gameworks running on gpus somehow affect the cpu

holy fuck this has to be the most stupied thing a shill ever said

>>59329902
>>59329959
>>59330335
>>59330379

kek beat that fag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njm0MBOwFTM

why do people only care about ryzens gaming performance and say its trash / failed / buzzwords when it can beat the high end i7s in basically everything else?

also why dont amd have a server chip to compete with xeons? does anyone make one?

>>59332293
>also why dont amd have a server chip to compete with xeons? does anyone make one?

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/08/the_italian_job_amd_goes_to_naples/

I'm gonna buy ryzen if you want to or not, LMAO.

>>59332314
>AMD does an Italian job
what does thia mean.

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Converting the histograms above gives the following:
In other words, Ryzen has a problem at the lower end. It's numbers at the 25th % and up are fine. In fact, both have the same median. It's between .1% and 25% that the problem exists.

GTA V

1800X
.1% 70 fps
1% 74 fps
10% 82 fps
25% 82 fps
50% 90 fps
75% 98 fps
90% 106 fps
99% 126 fps

7700K
.1% 82 fps
1% 90 fps
10% 102 fps
25% 106 fps
50% 110 fps
75% 118 fps
90% 126 fps
99% 138 fps

Here, the 1800X is consistently about 80-85% as fast as the 7700K and the results are far more clustered for both chips.

Personally, I'd find these kind of numbers with .1%, 1%, and 50% and an included histogram more useful than what we get now. And with Excel, it's not hard to do.

>>59332293
Because that's the most intensive job you do on your average desktop. People who render or compile shit 24/7 are a minority.

>>59332343
new opetrons will be forged deep under naples mountain range
one chip to rule them all!

7 r7 was given to dwarves
5 r5 will go to humans
and 3 r3 will go to elves, because they are special fuckers and deserve it

>>59332394
but i mean in almost every case its a 2-3 fps difference in intel or amds favor yet people (not just the shitposters here) act like its not performing to an acceptable standard. they also seem to forget the inane price difference

>>59332405
and the psp is the eye of sauron?
but seriously what does to do an italian job mean

>>59332470
Napels is Italian region/city, that's all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naples

>>59332503
whatever, Italian job seems to imply heist from what i googled.

>>59332470
>act like its not performing to an acceptable standard
people look at graph, graph line is shorter, people do not calculate percents, look at proper metrics they just see shorter graph

peasantry 101

AMD is seriously the worst tech company in the universe.

They're like the cheap chinese knock-off version of real companies like Intel & Nvidia.

>>59331875
Bruh.
A fucking POTATO can run Overwatch on 60fps.
My fucking CAT could run Overwatch on 60fps.

What the fuck, bruh.

>>59329902
> Single threaded application
> less-cores cpu comes out ahead
Holy shit, AMD should just burn down their offices and commit sudoku already.

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>>59329959

>>59334163
Still not as good as the original.

I really don't know why mods aren't deleting these GAYMUR benchmark threads anymore. They've been spammed here so many times since Ryzen launched, it's fucking ridiculous.

>>59334163
kek

>>59326324
Keep shitposting faggot. In a few weeks when AMD rolls out Ryzen drivers it'll send Intel packing.

>>59330854
Lol, what the fuck is with that picture? It doesn't make any sense

>>59332394
>>59332394
>Because that's the most intensive job you do on your average desktop
Maybe if you are a pathetic NEET from /v/.

>>59334204
>why isn't info being censored
It's like you are not longer on rebbit.

>>59334341
bet you never designed your own site, pleb!

>>59331476
fucking christ who makes these, i can't read any of this

>>59334325
Most issues are because of Windows 10
> Randomly throws threads around between cores in different CCX's, so that data needs to be transferred between L3 cache pools all the time
> Treats all cores as having individual L3 cache pools

AMD has already updated Linux to behave correctly. Microsoft needs to pull their finger out.

>>59334429
At least with Ryzen, the issues we see can be fixed via software/BIOS updates.
Intel's issues were hardware related.
> Buggy chipset crippling SATA performance
> TSX broken, and having to be permanently disabled

>>59334429
Don't you /g/ faggots run Windows 7?

What is that excuse about 10 now?

Stop reaching.

>>59334473
Shills will use any excuse they can.

>>59334473
We do, but reviewers run Windows 10 when they benchmark.

>>59334473
only videogamers use Windows.

>>59326324
that's it, i'm selling my 1800x NOW!

>>59329959
>cant afford monitor from after 2010
>b-but 1080p?

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>>59331460
INTURD IS GETTING DESTROYED EVEN IN GAYMEN

HHHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHHAAHAHAHHHAH

>>59334486
only autists use linux

>>59334486
>only videogamers use Windows.
only videogamers have to use windows.
I literally don't know why anybody who doesn't play games uses windows.

>>59334542
Sound and video editing software is still superior in Windows.

You could run it in VM, but according to my friend who does video editing there are some problems with sound playback that he can't fix so - for work reasons he uses it.

>>59334559
>Sound and video editing software is still superior in Windows.

I like how the motherboard, revision settings are not stated.

>>59332373

I have been waiting for a review that just shows all the frame times. The total picture, thank you man

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Lots of problems handicapping Ryzen. Once those are fixed, it's off to the races.

>>59334486
This is SFW board you fucking niggerkike.
I almost got fired because of you.

>Polish subhumans
>proper benchmarks

pick one

>>59329959
Loses while only using 4 cores (one of which was a logical one due to scheduler issues). At stock clocks.
>7700k is 106% of the performance
>at 116% of the clock speed

>>59334815
I almost got promoted because of that guy. Shut the fuck up.

>>59334807
https://youtu.be/bIbwuLdHbMg?t=22m39s

whole podcast is hilarious, but this part is important for you

>>59326324
>look at pic
>kurva polska
>he has to shill because brits and germans don't want him cleaning the toilett anymore
TOPKEK, Jacek.

>>59334988
>we don't support ECC(c)Gigabyte
>wendel: "totally works"

this is gold

>>59334815
>browsing 4chan at work

>>59335426
What else is he going to do at work?

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>>59334180
Thanks for praising my OC.

>>59326324
Something is wrong with those benchmarks. Even my shitty RX480 runs hitman better than that on 1080p.

>>59334988
> smooth
THE FUCK IS SMOOTH ON A FUCKING CPU?
This is some pure fucking golden rage material son.
This is some magical Apple branded AA battery level kind of shit.

I am fucking done.
> TFW NOT HAVING A SMOOTH RAM
> TFW CANNOT GAME WITHOUT SMOOTH GPU
> WHILE SIPPING ON MY ACTIVATED ALMOND LATTE

FUCKFKOPCKERPOKO

>>59338581
Ok I gave it 2 more secs.
Of course if you Windows Update - which happens every fucking minute you turd eater fuck - you will stutter because of ONLY EIGHT FUCKING THREADS.

Does not matter that people actually do tournaments on 4 cores and 2 cores, and that Windows Update will never use that much CPU, BUT FUCK ME MATE, you need EIGHT CORES and SIXTEEN threads to be able to multitask.

This.. this is now some fucking quality podracing.
What's next?

You need the best Xeon to cut music?
To watch Youtube and speak shit on the microphone?

These people should be gassed.

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windowsfags not understanding the difference between smt and numa

normies not understanding coherency

intelfags shilling so hard

>>59338581
>>59338611
>You need the best Xeon to cut music?
>To watch Youtube and speak shit on the microphone?
If it makes our product look good, why not, goys will buy into it :^)

>>59326324
Nobody uses 4K.

>>59338661
The big thing people aren't understanding with SMT is that the Window's scheduler can't decide when it's best to move to a logical thread or a physical thread. It's up to developers to try out their code.

Ideally the scheduler would have some machine learning to automate scheduling for SMT, but it doesn't.

>>59338667
>If it makes our product look good, why not, goys will buy into it :^)
But it's just so rage inducing.
And three other braindead poorly paid fucks are also just there, repeating the shill mantra.

Fuck me.

>>59338661
Well, so far no one had to.
But now AMD fanboys on /g/ come with the usual bullshit "only windows sucks". So now everyone has to learn them, and imply that indeed that caused ryzen to fail so badly.

Of course, months later - when no patch will be written - since there are no problems, everyone will just talk about something else.
I suspect it will be the 4 cores that will underperform again, and they will find a suspect again.

The same circle of... life?

>>59338748
>But it's just so rage inducing.
Doesn't matter, you just have to repeat it enough times, often enough times and people will believe it. Trust me, we will sell shit like no tomorrow.

>>59327469
Tf is dirt rally

>>59338770
build a numa kernel on linux, bench it against an smt kernel on linux, come back with results

ergo conclusive proof windows is the shit here

Thing about Ryzen, R7 specifically, is that its unrealistic that any normie gamer will need more than 2 cores, 4 at most. By the time 8 cores will be even viable and realistically need for programs, Ryzen will be completely obsolete because we will be shilling about 10-16 cores and Ryzen will be shit by then. Only poor shills will be buying Ryzen by then

>>59338836
2010 called, they want their meme back

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>>59331366
>Nvidia paid game (Hitman)
DAMAGE CONTROL
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C
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>>59338803
Most likely the most realistic race game available today.

>>59338804
Congratulations, you have benchmark for Linux.
No matter how you compile that, you will never make it a Windows benchmark.

>>59339007
how does this not isolate windows as the problem?

>>59331845
Because most /g/ posters are spotty virgin teens

>>59331366
>Nvidia paid game (Hitman) artifically throttles AMD CPU
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAH HOW AMD FAGS WILL RECOVER NOW?

>>59338938
DELET

>>59338938
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AMD is so fucking stupid, I can't wait until that piece of shit company is dead in the ground.

>>59338836
Plenty of games are maxing out the 7700k at under 144fps, at least in multiplayer.

That bullshit you're spouting stopped being true in like 2012.

>>59338836
(Playing plenty of games and actually you are right. Of course, none will agree on /g/ as they mostly just watch animu with mpv and shill or shitpost. But indeed, games never really catched up. Maybe a few titles, that are used in benchmarks can indeed scale up.

Then there are the other 99.9% of the games that you will actually play, and you are a lucky guy if they scale up to two or three cores at all.

MMOs? One core? Maybe two?
ARMA3? One thread per each task, so max 4, but in reality thats more like 1 maxed out and 3 doing fuck nothing.
Alright I won't list all, but yeah. Most games, just like how most apps and tasks... are single or few threaded.)

OF COURSE, you can always just boot up your PC, open a Lisa Jew picture, and watch CineBench. Over and over again. Fun.

>>59339591
retard spotted

>>59339148
fuckoff, I'm almost 40.

>>59339675
I just work as a programmer and play games.
Also thanks to my mobile i7, I soon realized how many games actually do NOT scale.
Or, rather, how many actually do.

There are two categories with a very, very few exceptions:
A) Cannot scale
These games would improve thousandfold if they were able to, but just cannot. ARMA3, or any other Korean MMO (B&S, AA, TERA, whatever).
B) Can scale. But would run on a fucking potato. Battlefield, Overwatch and so on.
I mean, my alarm clock could run Overwatch.

But hey, games are not the only one.
My PC boots up? Single thread.
My virtual machine boots up, I compile, I do work? Single thread.
Launch my work applications? Single thread.
I code and debug? Single thread.
Browse websites? Single thread.
Encode music? Single thread.
Have to work in PS, manipulate images, convert them? Single thread.

The only thing top of my head that is multi-threaded and I use it is compression.
But compression is sometimes better if you don't thread it.

>>59339799
This

People don't realize that almost everything uses single core

This is why Ryzen sucks

>>59339799
but 8 cores, EIGHT! That's four more than 4!
DON'T YOU SEE THE VALUE OF MORE CORES?!

>>59339799
lmao?
Compilers are usually multithreaded.
Many IDEs are multi threaded.
Browsers are multithreaded.

Holy shit. Half of what you said is fucking wrong as can be. Invalidates your entire post. Fuck off, moron.

>>59339591
>playing plenty of games.

not playing all of them at once. >>59331875

But why should I bother with you when you're the literal retard saying that 4 cores are more than enough. Real good goy, you are.

>>59339820
SIXTEEN THREADS....
wait, whats the cool word for it...hekkaideka THREAD CPU?!
(yes I copied that out and I see there are no prefixes, only up to 12.)

>>59339828
> Compilers are multi-threaded
Projects are not.

Just because you can compile the kernel with a make -n+1 flag does not mean everything will compile that way.
Most projects that are commercial or private/homebrew will always be single threaded.
Even Gentoo has flags which projects cannot compile parallel.

> Many IDEs
A graphical UI is multi-threaded? What?
> Browsers?
No browser on the market has threaded render / worker.
Chrome splits the tabs into separate threads, indeed.
But it cannot use two threads to process a webpage.
Servo promised a few things, but Mozilla went down the shitter since.

>>59339854
>not playing all of them at once
Well I am not Korean with dedicated 1000+ APM for playing 10 games at once.

>>59339799

this bait lmao

who cares about mainstream ryzen and gayms anyway? when are the opterons coming out?

>>59331457
>hitman
>sponsored by nVidia/intel

Got bad news for ya, kiddo.

http://www.amd.com/en-us/markets/game/featured/hitman

>>59334727
This. It's fucking ridiculous. The available motherboards got released too soon and Wangdows needs to get on the ball and fix some shit.Wow, it's like we've never seen shit like this happen before.

>>59334351
As opposed to what, a pathetic NEET from /g/ that does nothing but rice Linux and shitpost on 4chan all day?

>>59339929
Bait how? I am not rooting for anyone.
I just want strong single thread performance because that's what I... or we... or everyone uses 99% of the time.
Trust me, I have long waited for multi-threading. I had a Core 2 Quad, and i7. Friend bought a Phenom X6.
But it never fucking came. For neither of us, we both got fucked.

12 years have passed and the industry almost made no progress.
Best we have is multi-threaded movie playback/decode/encode.
Alright, you can cherry pick this, but if you look at the big picture, it's a big sad fucking picture.
Instead of the "everything will use all the cores" we have the "you might get lucky" situation.

(And of course, we can now compile the Linux kernel in a few minutes. Yay!)

>>59336958
Because removing the GPU bottleneck and exposing AMDs weak core performance is bad.

>>59339799
that sucks. or rather it tells you how much non-unix OS sucks

for me boot up is split into a ton of separate services by systemd, which means lots of concurrent processes that don't wait for each other and benefit from smp
same for virtual machines.
I don't code stuff as one big .c file so big parts of the compilation step benefit greatly from smp

I don't encode music much, but it tends to be by the album so a lame/oggenc process per song means great multicore scaling

>>59340054
it's bait because you're making completely retarded statements

>>59340054
Hell, I remember when Pentium 4s came out.

"We'll see programs that take advantage of hyperthreading next year"

>>59340067
>for me boot up is split into a ton of separate services by systemd
Windows also uses parallel boot.
I meant a "boot to desktop".
And that's it. Because the rest of the applications that load will be all single thread ones.

> I don't code stuff as one big
Well, I worked on Java projects, bigger C++ projects, basically what they had at the company I worked for at the time.
For example, the release always managed to be parallel, which was cool and all.
But of course the debug build would require single thread building which was like 99% of the builds between each release, so very useful.

When I have to process text, do whatever work... I mean you don't parallelize everything in your code.
> inb4 I use X language that does it automatically
C# comes closest with the dumb friendly Parallels and such, but it's far from automatic / universal.

>>59340076
How so?

>>59339904
>I see there are no prefixes, only up to 12
ico has called you.
the contas are setting up your linching as we speak.
the kais are just sad you murdered them, and they already already suffer severely from an inferiority complex.
the hectas and above are not bothered, since they realized you wouldn't be able to figure out how to combine them all together and they're douches that think everything is beneath them anyways.

I can see why you don't like more than 4 cores, since you can't count too good.

>>59339904
>>59340357
did you realize that you basically said that the greeks couldn't count past twelve?

>>59339904
you'll never be able to enjoy naples' hecatoicosiocta threads since you'll be using your fingers way after the 3 months simulation has ended.

Are there any benchmarks for Civ VI or Deus Ex on GNU + Linux?

>>59338581
They literally explained what "smooth" means you dumb fuck
Maybe next time wash your ears you fucking retard.

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>1080Ti gets less FPS on 1080p than a RX480
Really makes you think.

>>59341224
You need to learn what synthetic means before you attempt more horrible analogies.

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>>59339904
hello gorgeous.

>>59339799
>>59339812
>>59339828

Having a process single threaded or not is a thing, but don't forget you're probably using more than one program at a time and that the OS might have stuff to do as well. That's called multitasking and the more cores you have the better it is.

>>59338748
you don't play videogames much do you?

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>>59343080
Oh like playing a game and streaming at the same time?

Hmmm....

>>59344228
Got any more games with that same test?

>>59343985
Actually I do. Maybe too many, too often even.

>>59341456
> imblying the 1ms vs 2ms "frametime" is noticeable by human means
We know, you are superhuman, you can spin your fedora on your head 3 times under 1 second.

>>59343080
This too, thank you.

Running 8 programs at once = 8 threads, minimum.

>>59344228
Nice fake, misleading methodology there.

Arstechnica is a shill.

Just wait untill Vega released and the deva optimised all the sdks for both CPU and GPU.