/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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first for Source Mage GNU/Linux

first for install gentoo

>>59325197
third for op is a fag

hi fglt i instaled manjaro as mi first distribtiuoin and now it not work wat can i do help pls linxu suks

Good thread.

Give me the quick rundown on NixOS

What is the best DE and why is it XFCE?

>>59325197
Your image reminds me of the comfy nes top gun intro music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frd4ts8W2b0

I use dwm, do I suck less?

If Steve Jobs or Satya Nadella said that computer users should tailor their needs to what their computer can do, instead of people buying a computer based on their needs, freetards wouldn't shut up about the tyranny of these companies.

But when GNU/Linux can't do something that a user would want to do, freetards mock you and deride you for being a "manchild" or whatever. Like if you need professional level video editing software, they'll deride you as an armchair movie director with a shitty YouTube channel. Or if you commit the sin of playing video games once in a while, you are a manchild virgin (usually the people saying this are weeaboos...). Hell, if you do anything but rice out your desktop, watch anime, and host a server to store your anime, some freetard somewhere will argue that your use case scenario is illegitimate. Can you imagine how the Linux community would react if Windows users said some Linux feature was only for manchildren?

So I heard virtualbox sucks compared to qemu, but it seems a bit complicated to use. Is there any tut about how to use this shit for retards?

OS: Debian GNU+Linux
CPU: AMD Ryzen 1700X
Vape: Kanger Genitank

Rate me

>>59327028
VirtualBox is fine for standard desktop virtualization
QEMU has a shit load more options and supports USB3 without proprietary modules

I use both.
VirtualBox for standard desktops, quick testing
QEMU on my server

I have a folder full of github projects.
Just ran this sicknasty command to update them all:

find . -type d -maxdepth 1 -exec sh -c "cd {} && git pull" \;

Is there a better way to do this?

>>59327183
with submodules:

git submodule update --recursive --remote

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That's the PRINT key, right?

Also do I need to retype everything or can I just do ALT+SYSRQ+REISUB at once?

>>59326264
>using a wm
>not using the tty

>>59327547
>using a monitor

>Windows

Plug printer in, automatic installation regardless of user privilege.

>Linux

Plug printer in, call IT guy to install it because EVERY. FUCKING. THING. REQUIRES. ROOT.

I get that it might be a security issue, but FOR GOD, JUST MAKE IT WORK.

I've spent the last day and a half trying to get my DeskJet to work with this shit, even going as far as trying to print through a VM to just see if I can get it working without resorting to it asking for root.

Nope. Essentially impossible.

(Obviously I have it running, because I needed to print shit, but this is a serious usability issue that NOBODY seems to be addressing)

>>59327633
lol what a dumb faggot u r

>>59327633
GNU/Linux*

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well?

>>59327704
no

Okay /g/entooman.

Trying to dual boot. Basically see the feasibility of running nothing else but Linux.

Problem is this: Can't boot linux after booting into Windows.

Secure boot is off.

Fast boot is off.

Hibernation is off.

What gives?

Using 16.04 LTS just because I'm a little rusty. I used Linux as my main driver, mostly Ubuntu and then Gentoo, but this was 6+ years ago before I decided to play games on my computer.

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>>59327189
nothing happened
I'll try it in a few days I guess?

>>59327704
what does this do?

>>59327692
>>59327703
See
>>59325197

>>59327776
You didn't ask any friendly question.

>>59327776
see

echo 6b696c6c20796f757273656c660a | xxd -ps -r

>>59325197

Hi /g/, this is my situation.

Im tired of windows and i really want to go deep balls on linux. The problem is that too many programs doesnt work well on linux or they dont exist.

How good will perform a windows vm ON linux? Maybe gaming on it?

>>59328292
You could pass your GPU through to Windows and game pretty well. You'll need a iGPU or a second one for linux though.

tfw top gun 2 got announced

>>59327141
>Ryzen
fell for the meme/10

>>59327704
The one on the right is an INI file, not a shell script, you baka

who /templeos/ here?

>>59328379
>not posting from ReactOS/HURD

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Just found this really old meme.
Daily reminder to use lossless png instead of jpg or your memes will end up like pic related.

>>59328303

Thank you! But can i pass my gpu through when i want? The main reason is that i want to game and do normal stuff on linux (i play games that are pretty well optimized on linux) but when i cant i can swith a do the thingy with the gpu to pass it to windows?

>>59328350
idk man i haven't purchased a new computer yet but when I do I'll definitely be considering the 1700 Ryzen chip. 8 cores, 16 threads, on 65 watts. And all the games I play currently work fine on the integrated graphics of an outdated intel i7 MOBILE chip which has half the benchmark scores of current i7's. That's pretty slick

Is CentOS a good distro to learn how to use Lunix with?

>>59329301
rpm distros in general are not good distros

hello Dr KDE Shill

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I want to be Free Wizard, how do I into emacs? What would I use emacs for?

>>59329493
>What would I use emacs for?
everything

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>>59329496
It sounds magical senpai. Where do I begin, is lisp the chosen language? What should lisp be used for, how does it relate to emacs?

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Best way to setup ubuntu server on LAN to do virtual hosts?

I want to be able to make wodpress sites at home on my server, then export them as static onto my vps with Virtual Hosting,

Laptop can access the internet, but its not on the DMZ (for security)

Both are running Ubuntu 14.04

If you are looking for professional experience, yes.

Give me the starting point for emac/gnu wizardry and I will start the journey. My memepad is ready

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>set up autologin on LDM
>numlock is off by default for some reason
>set up numlockx greeter script
>now randomly either get a login screen with password where numlock is on or just autologin with numlock off
You made me have this archa-chan /g/, now take responsibility for it's retarded actions.

Any picture viewer with image scalers (e.g. lanczos) like the Perfect Viewer we have on Android?

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lol guys, check out this funny linux comic

>>59329686
mpv

>>59329493
http://emacs.sexy/

>>59329732
worst webcomic ever desu

good EDM programming setlists to steal with
youtube-dl -x HTTPS//HERELOL

im drunk and wanna steal some shit on brew
<3

>>59327183

>github projects

>>59328612
If your kernel supports VFIO you can disconnect the card and use it on your host with a command.

Debian or Ubuntu(probably xubuntu)? Dual booting with Arch

>>59329680
cant you just set it in xorg.conf -- if you're using X

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I have no idea what I'd have done wrong.
This is what happens when I try to compile the kernel with the amdgpu modules...

>>59325197
oh my stallman, what a large tummy you have!

>>59327633
>Windows
Plug printer in, device not recognized, sift through 2 dozen shady websites to find an .exe that may or may not be the driver you need, requires admin privileges to install, call IT guy to install it, doesn't work and also Word now crashes every hour, on the hour. Weep. Call IT guy again to reinstall Windows.

>GNU/Linux
Visit 1 forum, try out three different solutions all of which are fully reversible and only 1 of which requires root. Realize I installed GNU/Linux on this machine myself and I have full root access, fix the problem and print all I want.

I'm having problems in bash with an if statement that has a logical condition and two numerical ones. Basically, a boolean must be false and an integer must be between two constants. I have this

if [ ("$bool" = "false" ) && ( $test -gt "10" ) && ( $test -lt "30" ) ]; then
echo "yes"
else
echo "no"
fi

But it doesn't work, where am I fucking up?

>>59331545
> polaris10_me.bin
You don't have it.

>>59333076
For boolean you should just set it to 0 or 1.
Example:

bool=1
if (( $bool )); then
  echo true
fi

bool=0
if ! (( $bool )); then
  echo false
fi

The rest:

if ! (( $bool )) && [[ $test -gt "10" ]] && [[ $test -lt "30" ]]; then
  echo "yes"
else
  echo "no"
fi

Also, be sure that you're using:

#!/bin/bash

instead of:

#!/bin/sh

>>59325197
Am I the only one that has problems with Chrome on ubuntu?

I am not sure if its vmware problem or chrome.

It started few months ago.

After using chrome for certain amount of time, amount of ram that chrome eats grows and grows to the point that it stop whole system. After that chrome tabs crash and loop start again.

It looks like there is so problem with chrome freeing memory after tab is closed.

When I am on some site with vids and I turn on vid then close it tab after awhile memory is full.


Also anybody knows why vid on pron sites looks that much worse on firefox than on chrome?

I have ubuntu with restricted extras installed and I can watch vids on chrome in hd, but on ff the same vid looks like its 140p.

>>59333076
Use two brackets instead of one:

if [[ ("$bool" = "false" ) && ( $test -gt "10" ) && ( $test -lt "30" ) ]]; then

>>59333409
Agreed. For bool variables, don't use the constants "true" and "false" -- it's an unusual style. Most people use 0 and 1.

>>59333409
Thanks a lot!

>>59331545
You're missing amdgpu firmware probably. I'd suggest making amdgpu a module instead of built-in

How does one compile GCC from source if one does not yet have a working C compiler?

>>59333530
He can also do

if [ "$bool" = "false ] && [ $test -gt 10 ] && [ $test -lt 30 ]; then
    # do stuff
fi

And this method is compatible with plain sh.

>>59333916
thanks for fucking up the syntax hilighting, 4chan.

>>59333916
>How does one compile GCC from source if one does not yet have a working C compiler?
chroot from live cd?

I’m about to install Arch Linux on a 160 GB disk (≈149 GiB) What is the best partition layout to use?

I used ubuntu for like a week last year while my windows was on the fritz. I could download programs, update them, and change some shit around, but I wanna be able to put on my resume I'm very familiar with linux.
I was planning on taking an work laptop of my dad's (I think it's a thinkpad from like 5 years ago) and just using it as a laptop to bring to class, do some light programming on, watch some twitch/jewtube, and shitpost on int and his, just to get comfortable with using linux on a daily basis and being able to do shit on it. I don't think I'm quite ready to use some super advanced distro on, but I'd like something a bit less entry-level than ubuntu. As I said, the laptop will be several years old so I don't think I can use a super cutting-edge, powerful distro.
>tl;dr what's a distro somewhat less entry-level from ubuntu that I can run on a 5 year old thinkpad to get used to linux os's on

>>59333393
>>59333599
Kinda.
I had the modules, but forgot to specify the dir in menuconfig

>>59325197
should I go with debian or fedora? are they libre? is fedora more bleeding edge? which would run better in a potato?

>>59334678
Use Arch.

>As I said, the laptop will be several years old so I don't think I can use a super cutting-edge, powerful distro.
Pretty much all GNU/Linux distros support work well on older hardware. Just install a lightweight DE like xfce or lxde or a tiling window manager like i3; and it'll work easily.

Freedom test: Pepsi or Coca-Cola?

>>59334879
Kompot!

>>59334857
agreed. I am a novice arch user and I've learned a lot from installing it to using and repairing it. even if you don't pretend to use it later on, you should at least use it for a while, you WILL learn a LOT

>>59334765
Debian is software + hardware libre (you can download proprietary hardware firmware though) whereas Fedora is only software libre. They're both as bleeding edge as you want them to be. They'll both run on a potato depending on the DE you use and what your definition of a potato is.

>>59334879
pineapple sprite , fgt

>>59334986
>>59334857
even if I haven't taken a hardware or os class yet? Or do i not need to know that kind of stuff to use arch

Which one is ("better") option debian xfce or cinnamon??

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How can I access my sd card reader? It shows up in dmesg but doesn't show up for lsblk. Thanks.

What's the best environment for a hiDPI laptop? Is it still GNOME? I'm looking at a fresh wipe-and-install on my rMBP and want something that's hiDPI and Wayland friendly.

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>>59335034
It's not as big of a deal as people make it out to be and it's not much different than Ubuntu besides the initial install process. I was surprised to find that all of the negative things I had read never happened to me. And once it's set up it's smooth sailing anyways in my experience. Easier even.

why doesn't sddm login to gnome? it keeps kicking me into kde whenever I try.

>>59334092
How would we know? Jesus if you don't even know how much space you need then why are you installing an OS with a manual setup? Install Ubuntu.

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>>59327819
>tfw no xxd for fucking bsd

>>59325197
Do I lose my files if I install Linux? Like I want to keep Windows, but also be able to boot Linux. Is this possible?

Also, if yes, will I be able to access my files from both?

>>59334879
Not Coca-Cola because rms said to boycott it, but then again, I don’t like Pepsi. I’ll go with Dr. Pepper.

>>59336248
I’m not talking about how much space. I’m talking about shit like which locations should have their own partition like maybe /home, /tmp or /var.
I just need enough space to install software and stuff. I have spare HDD for storage purposes.

>>59336691
look up tutorials on how to duel boot. if you duel boot, you will not lose your files.
Your Linux system will be able to read your files on Windows, but Windows will not be able to read your files on the Linux partitions.

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>>59336747
>duel boot

>>59336691
Yes, and yes.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
Although AFAIK, you can’t access Linux filesystems (ext4, ext3, etc.) from Windows, but you can access Windows filesystems (NTFS and fat) from Linux, so if you need to make a file accessible from both, put it in the Windows partition.

>>59336776
>>59336747
*dual

>>59336731
My mistake friend, you should be fine having /tmp and /var in the root partition with that much disk space, I usually only separate them when working on >30GB machines just to make it more manageable

>>59336867
Thanks senpai

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>>59334879
I uphold the total boycott of Coca Cola Company http://killercoke.org/, which is a response to the murder of union organizers in Colombia and Guatemala. I will not use any of that company's products and I hope you will reject them too.

>>59334879
Goystream, it's cheaper

How do I change the GTK theme of GDM?

How do I get this to work?

printf 'x\nx\n' | sed -e 's/x\n/x/g'

I want the output to be xx.

I tried using something like

sed -e $'s/x\n//g'

or

anon@gnu ~$ sed -e 's/x
> x/g'

And none of that worked, so how do I do it?

>>59337844
sed can't remove newlines without hacking
use tr to remove the newlines before using sed
or use this hack: sed ':a;N;$!ba;s/\n//g'

>>59337844
printf 'x\nx\n' | tr -d '\n'

>>59337884
I found a workaround, but it sucks, and it’s not reliable:

printf 'x\nx\n' | sed 's/ /_SPACE_/g' | xargs echo | sed 's/ //g' | sed 's/_SPACE_/ /g'

>>59337934
you could also change the newline to a character that will never appear like | tr '\n' '¿' and after formatting with sed, change the character back to newline | tr '¿' '\n'

>>59337844
What are you trying to parse anyway? Maybe there's a better tool/solution for this.

>>59337812
bump

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Just discovered graphviz, pretty neat little program gents. Example:

printf -- 'digraph { a -> c; b -> c; a [label="GNU",margin=0.5]; b [label="Linux",margin=0.5]; c [label="GNU/Linux",margin=1.0]; }' | dot -T png >out.png

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when I compress a folder with tar it has the archive tree like "home/my-personal-folder/videos". How do I compress just the folder?

>>59338651

-C, --directory DIR
           change to directory DIR

Manpages motherfucker.

>>59338651
name?

>>59338651
tar -C mydir mysettings archive.tgz

>>59338678
ZeroCool

>>59338678

Cho

>>59338678
';drop tables;'

>>59338608
looks awesome

>no longer provide binary packages for Windows

into_the_trash_it_goes.gv

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>>59338608
yeah, if you're on debian, you can use this to generate some pretty nead dependency graphics

apt-cache -o APT::Cache::GivenOnly=1 dotty scrot | dot -T png > out.png

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How would i add this icon to the top bar in gnome?

>>59338651
cd to the directory just above it and do

tar -cf videos.tar videos

Just compiled ffmpeg on my single core toaster.
Took me 30 minutes. Jesus christ, I guess "lightweight" Gentoo would be only fun with high end hardware.

>>59338608
Its Wikipeidea article has been in my "Things you should do some day" bookmarks folder for a while now.

>>59338889
I've such a bookmarks folder too. It's just growing and growing. Feels pretty uncomfy. ;_;

>>59338902
sort them in categories of interest, that's a lot better, when you have a run with %something, you'll propably clean up your whole %something bookmarks

>>59338757
>Windows
into the trash it goes

>>59338902
I know that feel bro

Could somebody tell me how you go about cracking office 2010 in PlayOnLinux? I need this shit for university and reinstalling every month is getting on my nerves.

>>59338989
Ask your university to use free software.

>>59338989
Can’t you use LibreOffice instead?
If that’s not an option, try KMSPico.

>>59339002
Nigger I don't want a fight, I just want to do my work then go home and cry.
>>59339030
Compatibility, I'll give that tool a try.

>>59338989
I'd recommend not using wine for windows programs. Malware programs belong into a VM. Here you can get just whatever crack and don't need to care about your VM being riddled with virus.

>>59339056
> I don't want a fight
You don't need to. It doesn't matter if theres no change *now*, but it's good to get the foot in the door so people can discuss. Just bring it up, that's already enough.

Suddenly my arch boots slow as fuck. It used to take three seconds, and now it takes 1 min 30. It gets stuck on a start job for dev-disk-by\x2duuid-43b898f5\x2d18c3\x2d484f\x2db138\x2dc6f457482201 for 90 secs, then shows two yellow warnings that go too fast to read, and then boots. The services that take the longest are
324ms systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-43b898f5\x2d18c3\x2d484f\x2db138\x2dc6f457482201.service
310ms systemd-logind.service
228ms dhcpcd.service
228ms dev-sda5.device
227ms netctl.service
225ms alsa-restore.service
118ms systemd-timesyncd.service
How can I make it go fast again?

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>>59325197
Top gun, my ass. Open source junk that's made by hobbyists will never come close to resembling the quality of a fighter jet.

>>59339172
(You)

>>59339069
>I'd recommend not using wine for windows programs
good advise, most people forget that wine isn't an emulator and doesn't protect you from malware targeting gnu+linux systems
del system32 will kill wine
rm -rf etc / wil kill the system

>>59339172
Agreed, Open Source junk is crap.
That's why I'm using Free Software.

>>59339165
Your drive is slow,its misconfigured or is dying

>>59339172
found the tech illiterate who thinks that the internet is hosted on windows servers

>>59339187
Let's say I have a proprietary GNO/Lunix game I want to play on my Debian, how can I protect myself? What's the sanest/securest way to run such programs?

>>59339002
What do *I* do when they force me to take a whole module about MATLAB?

>>59339305
Jails like firejail may help. A VM may help too.
That said, hacks exist to break out of jails an VMs.

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>>59339257
Even a poorly built shack can keep the rain out, but it's not quite the same as flying.

>>59339165
It must be something that has to do with disks. Did you change /etc/fstab recently or added/deleted any disks?

>>59339305
I guess the best way is dualbooting.

1 system for proprietary software.
1 system for free software and actual computing.

>>59339362
>allowing malware access to your whole disc

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>>59339362
>tfw corrupted my free software partition with nonfree stuffs
send halp pls

>>59339380
>>59339385
SO WHAT?
should I buy a second hdd???
i'm new, no bully!

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>>59339413
Use free software for computing.
If you like gaming, buy a super nintendo.
Regards, >>>/vr/

>>59339413
No, you use GNU/Linux as host and Windows as guest VM with gpu passthrough.

>>59339413
if you dual boot, in theory windows can easily install their spyware on your linux partition, even if it's on another drive. if the cia/microsoft really wanted to track you they could just use the backdoor in your proprietary BIOS, or Intel's integrated cpu backdoor. that said, you're much safer if you do most of your computing in linux. Anyway, I'd recommend using windows only if the software is 100% nonfunctional in wine.

>>59339477
What if my hardware is too old to support GPU passthrough?

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>>59339481

>>59339248
fuck. how do i check which one of those it is?
>have two drives, one SSD (sda) and one HDD (sdb).
>linux and win10 both installed on sda
>one ntfs partition on sdb, and one ext4. the start job is for the ext4 partition. I can read/write to them pretty normally in linux and windows.

>>59339511
See that long line of numbers?
Thats your identifier.
Use it to find the disk

>>59339481
But Windows can’t even read files from ext[2-4] filesystems, let alone modify them in a meaningful way.

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>>59339481
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>59339524
*trump mask*
WRONG!
http://www.ext2fsd.com/

>>59339526
I know that smile.

>>59339526
I already thought I'd saved every RARE stallman.

thanks the uuid says it's sdb2- the ext4 linux partition mounted at /movies

>>59339524
that's just what microsoft says. It's trivial using third party software. Microsoft could just pretend to be unable to read them, but secretly install malware. We may never know, because it's non-free software :^)

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>>59339579

ls ~/tech/rms/* | wc -l
1063

Get on my level.

>>59339603
>>59339518
meant to reply

>>59339646
Make sure all the mounting options for it are correct and also run hdparm on it to see if there is access issues. Also you may want to tell the system to hold off mounting it until there is actual access to it,meaning it wont boot on start,but when you go to access it,should cut a few seconds off of your boot

>>59339641
One of these days, I will.

>>59339413
did that, but still installed said stuffs on my gahnooloonix drive

I can't be helped, too far gone

>>59339724
wget -qO- https://stallman.org/photos/rms-working/pages/{1..146}.html | sed -n 's/.*alt="\([^"].*[jpg|JPG]\).*/http:\/\/stallman.org\/photos\/rms-working\/\1/p' | xargs wget -nv

it's a good start

>>59339623
I dual boot Arch GNU/Linux (my main OS) and a Windows 7 that has no way of connecting to the internet to spy on me or anything. The wireless card's driver wasn't automatically installed, and I didn't install it (although it worked out of the box on Linux, which shows that Linux is superior). Am I still at risk?

>>59339773
:)

>>59339773
I've got something simliar, but it will just gett all rms.sexy pics, I guess stallman.org got more.

wget -e robots=off -nc -nd -nv -ERhtml -Ajpg,JPG -r rms.sexy/img/

>>59339779
the risk is absolutely miniscule. you're probably safe, because windows 7 (provided you haven't updated it past service pack 1. they backported the spyware), and because no internet.

>>59339802
>there is a site called rms.sexy
What a time to be alive.

>>59339779
Arch comes with a blobbed kernel ootb. If you're paranoid about security, you should get a FSF endorsed distro like Parabola, which is basically Arch without nonfreee software.

>>59339833
says the man posting on a closed source proprietary software imageboard using google botnet captcha

>>59339833
I'm not THAT paranoid.

>>59339845
That's the sacrifice I pay for spreading the voice of freedom.

Is there any rolling release distro for people that don't have autism and doesn't require a shitload of tinkering and configuration like Arch does? Debian is even more autistic than Arch is

>>59339845
Why doesn't moot make 4chan free software? 8 ch is free software.

>>59339872
>Debian
>Rolling distro

Try Fedora Rawhide if that's still a thing

>>59339872
Manjaro. It's based on Arch and delays updates till there's a solution to update without breakage. Contrary to the popular believe, security updates go through instantly.

>>59339891
What's the difference between Antergos and Manjaro anyways? I used to use Arch but got fed up with having to chase down drivers for Bluetooth and Wifi and shit every time I did a clean install.

>>59339887
>I'm a newfag, don't know anything about distros
>I'm too cool for Noobuntu that's why I choose a Red Hall shilled distro because "Super duper enterprise ready Linux!!!!111"
>I do RHEL beta testing for free

>>59339876
gookmoot is a giant piece of shit. he makes his money from selling the data of "anonymous" users
how else would he make money off a website that hemorrhages money because everyone blocks ads?

Anyone else using i3? I'm farely new to it so forgive me but how does one remove the titlebars?

>>59339913
Antergos is basically an Arch installer that ships some DEs. Manjaro does it's own thing.

(someone correct me if im wrong)

>>59339935
Nobody uses i3, we're using i3-gaps.

>>59339913
manjaro is a shittier version of antergos. Arch, but with worse repos, incompetent maintainers, and a good gui installer with DEs. that said, if you don't want to tinker, dont use a fucking rolling distro. No matter the distro, something is going to break and waste your time/

>>59338799
There's an extension for it.
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/495/topicons/

>>59339973
nice memes

>have 970
>have intel integrated graphics
>every distro boots to a black screen on my 970
>need to force integrated, plug in motherboard port, and then boot to cli, and then install nvidia and run nvidia-xconfig to get it to work
>970 works now, but if I boot with intel graphics after systemd finishes stuff it gives me a blinking cursor

>>59339973
I don't mind tinkering, I just want it to work out of the box. I've never run into problems before when running bleeding edge software, it's just a meme people spout that Arch breaks all the time.

>>59339988
what's wrong with what I said? Manjaro gets packages more slowly, and they literally don't function any better than arch packages. No matter the distro, you either get packages so slowly it may as well be fixed release, or the packages occasionally break.

>>59340029
>>59339973
>>59339942
don't use antergos or manjaro if you want a gui installer and something that werks out of the box. use arch-anywhere. it actually gives you a good arch install in an installer a retard can follow, with as much bloat/packages as you tell it.

>>59339924
Hey! He asked for a rolling distro that is easier to install and use than Arch. I don't use Fedora myself so calm your tits.

>>59336891
A /boot partition is pretty handy to have if you plan on having multiple OS's on the computer.

>he fell for the arch meme
I'm wondering why the Arch meme didn't die already.

>>59340060
I did use Arch Anywhere but still had to chase down drivers to get things like my trackpad, Bluetooth and Wifi running on my X230, along with other shit like font configuration.

>>59340105
reddit unixporn is keeping it going

>>59340105
Arch isn't a meme. Get over it.
Source Mage GNU/Linux, on the other hand, is a meme.

>>59340105
Because it's the only halfway decent rolling release distro, genius

>>59340105
Arch is the only way to get a lightweight and minimal distro following the KISS principle out of the box. You literally have the freedom to create your very OWN distro without any crap distros like Noobuntu etc are shipping. It's easy to rice, unlike any other distros and it's following the Arch-Way (keeping thing simple). Installing Arch also means learning about Linux in general. You don't have to install Gentoo in order to know Linux.

Arch is literally the best distro in existence.

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>>59340169
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

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>>59340169
Arch isn't minimalist.

"It has never been a minimalist distribution. Splitting packages is rare compared to other distributions, and dependencies aren't made optional whenever possible."

"It has also never been a distribution offering much user freedom / choice compared to Gentoo and even Debian. There are very few cases where there are multiple packages offering different configurations of the same project. There's no equivalent to update-alternatives or the comparable uses of USE flags. Changing /bin/sh from Bash will be broken, as will changing the python symlink to point to python2 instead of python3 even though this works on some other distributions. It doesn't strive to offer choices like this, and never has."

"Arch is the opposite of a user-centric freedom. The opinion of users has no weight here. Only the developers have an opinion, and there aren't voting systems as there are in Debian. Technical decisions are made based on merit via consensus among the developers, not popularity."

"Arch has never been minimalist... a Linux kernel with every module available and every feature enabled at least when there's no non-bloat related cost, feature-packed/complex GNU tools, nearly all optional features enabled across all the packages, etc."

"It has always used significantly more disk space and a measurable amount of additional memory than Debian and especially Gentoo as a consequence of keeping things simple (again, from a development perspective)."

"Memes about minimalism and user freedom != actual distribution policy / principles / history."

t. arch wiki admin
https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html

>>59339868
So you're a raging hypocrite who alters his morals at the drop of a dime?

Nice.

>>59340169
So Arch is basically like every other distro with a netinstall?

>>59340214
>look ma, I posted it again!

>>59340011
Because you have x configured to use nvidia, of course its going to not work if you use intel.Fucking retard

>>59340244
Face the truth, you got meme'd.

>>59340278
See
>>59340157

>>59340278
to >>59340246

Arch Linux is a stepping stone-

>>59340322
For what?

Just got systemd free arch up and running but I cannot get audio to work for the life of me. Both pulse and also seem to be fucked. I just want to be able to listen to music while I finish setting everything up

>>59340340
Can you be more vague?

>>59340330
For Gentoo.

I'm interested in trying Gentoo. I was wondering how long it would take to build packages etc- I'm on an old as fuck 1gb ram core duo. I'm pretty new to gnu/Linux but I installed arch, is it a lot harder?

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>>59340340

E: [pulseaudio] core-util.c: Failed to connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
E: [pulseaudio] module-console-kit.c: Unable to contact D-Bus system bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.FileNotFound: Failed to connect to socket /run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
E: [pulseaudio] module.c: Failed to load module "module-console-kit" (argument: ""): initialization failed.
E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Module load failed.
E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Failed to initialize daemon.

This is the output when I try to run pulseaudio from CLI. All my configs for pulse are default haven't messed with it yet. Pic related is what happens when I try and launch pavucontrol.

>>59340563
shit meant to reply to >>59340359

>>59340546
gentoo is shit, it dosent even come with the base install,you have to externally download it.What kind of shit is this

>>59339931
Collect that this really makes me sad, gookmoot.

>>59340563
>>59340572
2nd line tells all

>>59338799
Is that f.lux? Does it work for you? Because I had to use Redshift.

I like the aesthetic of the gnome version of apricity. (https://apricityos.com/) I tried a live usb of apricity, but it seems pretty shit (mirrorlist was fucked up and didn't work at all until I replaced it, even after doing that pacman doesn't work properly, and it has a fuckload of unneeded packages). How would I install the gnome shell and icon themes in an install of another distro?

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>59340849
sudo cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sda1

it makes a cool matrix thing of random text in the terminal

>>59340849
sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda

92 updates @ 362mb incoming

wish me luck lads

>>59340869
>>59340872
Thanks guys my system is a lot cleaner now

>>59340849

curl -L git.io/{burger,coffee,pancakes,pizzza,pizzzza,poptart,rice,taco,unix,vburger,waffles}

Prints all the xero ansi food stuff at once.
If you want to save some of this shit, do it like this:

curl -L git.io/unix > unix

and to print it

cat unix

>>59340891
>xero
Zero Cool?

>>59340905
it's the faggot who made that shit

>>59340849
apt-cache -o APT::Cache::GivenOnly=1 dotty systemd | dot -T png > out.png

>>59340598
I still don't see how to fix it

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>ywn be this cool

>>59340949
dbus deps on systemd,you need to make it work now that systemd is gone,look in to kbus

>>59340958
>Linux
>Freedom
Every time.

>>59340849

:(){ :|:& };:

>>59340971
>>59340872
>>59340869
>>>/p/lebbit

>>59340872
>>59340888
>>59340869
DON'T DO THIS KIDS, THIS WILL OVERWRITE YOUR FUCKING HARD DRIVE WITH RANDOM BITS.

>>59341003
You're at /g/, what do you expect

>>59340891
Nice.

>>59340958
"94 million people died because of communism in the 20th century but it's a good idea and I'm proud of it XD"

>>59340938
Reposting this >>59338782 without credit? Not cool, Anon.

>>59341016
I always thought /fglt/ is beyond neo /g/, being the lasort. ;_;

>>59341013
Bytes, not bits.

>>59341013
>>59340971
And this will fill up all your memory until your computer will not be usable. You'll have to reboot it.

>>59341016
I'm in /fglt/, I expect people to at least be friendly and not try to fuck up noobs' OSs.

>>59341082
Doesn't even matter because a byte is made of bits and if the byte is random then so are the bits (either 0 or 1).

>>59341095
>>And this will fill up all your memory until your computer will not be usable. You'll have to reboot it.
not if you're a leet hacker who has set up ulimit like everyone ITT should have

>>59341095
>>I'm in /fglt/, I expect people to at least be friendly and not try to fuck up noobs' OSs.
this

>>59340962
>kbus
maybe I'm just retarded but I can't find anything on the internet about this as an alternative to dbus

>>59341122
>ulimit
tell me about this wizardry

>>59341122
>not if you're a leet hacker who has set up ulimit like everyone ITT should have
If you're a 1337 haxx0r, then that warning was not for you.

>>59341141
Limit the max. allowed processes by (You) run in your current shell.

ulimit -u 1024

Allows max. 1024 processes, more than enough for a normalfag sys. Everything beyond will simply fail.

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>>59340962
I'm not opposed to just using alsa instead of pulse but this is what comes up when I try and select my sound card in alsamixer. If I switch to my headphones it at least appears normal but there's still no audio.

>>59340849
kill -9 1

>>59341176
>alsa instead of pulse
I hopy you faglords are aware that there's no "alsa or pulse" in question; pulse is a extension to alsa, which gives you lots of features that alsa doesn't.

>>59341095
>>59341179
This will kill init 1. Or at least try and fail without sudo. Nice try, faggot!

>>59341212
dropping pulse is a meme made up by anti spystemd memers

>>59341227
fuck off red hat shill

>>59341254
If you care so much about >muh red hat monopilizing muh linux, then make better replacements instead of spilling crap

>>59341227
>>59341254
What is the advantage of using alsa instead of pulse audio?

/g/ is the most unfriendy board on whole 4chan, especially threads about open source, why?

>>59341227
red hat shill fuck off

>>59341293
none, there are only downsides
the only "average" is some less packages

>>59340795
They're using the Arc Darker theme, but I don't know what icon-theme is that.

>>59341227
pulse was shit a decade before systemshit came out

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>>59341309
>>59341254
>>59340872

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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

>>59341298
freetards have nothing else to do with their lives.
Their vapid one-view "lifestyle" is all they have left

>>59341298
>>59341361
Why do you guys even come here? Have you nothing else to do?

>>59341298
Hello there! You seem to have used the term "open source".
The term "open source" was created by a group of people that did not want to be associated with the free software movement. When I say "free" software (which is one of the alternatives preferable to "open source"). It's not about price; in that case I would say "gratis", or "free as in free beer". It's about "freedom"! This is what the free software movement is fighting for.
So what is "free" software? Free software is any software that guarantees the user the four essential software freedoms:
> 0. Run the program as you wish.
> 1. Study the source code and change it so it does what you wish.
> 2. Redistribute exact copies of the program.
> 3. Distribute your modified version of the program.
Some people decided that they wanted to restrict the user; but being able to study and modify the "open source" code is not enough! This is directly hurting the cause of the free software movement because it takes away the sociological "freedom" aspect of free software and turns it into a technological one.
So for those reasons I ask that in the future you use the terms "free", "free/libre" or, if necessary "FLOSS" (short for "free/libre and open source"), though the latter should still be avoided.

>>59341381
I run Linux.
This is a linux thread,that freetard fags took over, they literally sit there all day to snipe a new thread and throw gnushit on to the Linux thread.

>>59341384
Actually "Open Source" roots in the Free Software Movement. It was made up to boost marked share and open doors to companies who didn't like the "for free" subtext, - but it ended up like you sayd.

>>59341384
>being this delusional

>>59341402
I run Linux too, but I'm aware that Linux is just a kernel that can't do anything on its own.

>>59341402
>fishing
>>59341449
>baiting
inb4 50+ useless posts

>>59341449
I run Linux too, but i'm aware that there are other userlands available then gnushit.I dont force other userlands down peoples throats at every other comment, i dont post bullshit "oughts" and other nonsense to derail the thread,

>>59341468
Those aren't (obviously) GNU/Linux systems, so not the topic of this thread. Go ahead and creat your Linux thread, but don't shit up ours with your hurting feels because some anon interjected you.

How does /fglt/ compress a directory?
gz? xt? or 7z?

I'm currently goinf with gz because everything else is too slow (but may save some bytes...).

>>59341575
lrzip

>>59341575

$ type mktxz 
mktxz is a function
mktxz () 
{ 
    XZ_OPT=-9 tar cvJf
}

>>59341575
I guess tar.gz is the most common format so I'm going with it. For best compession: >>59341582

>>59341607
>tar.gz
>not tgz
bloat

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>>59340849

mpv --vo=null http://www.se2a1.net/commoradio/sys64738.php

Ebin C64/Amiga chiptunes playlist from http://www.commoradio.net

>>59341575

XZ_OPT='-z9ekvv' tar -cpvJf directory.tar.xz  directory

>>59341597
Get on my level.

>>59341221
>This will kill init 1. Or at least try and fail without sudo. Nice try, faggot!
try it and tell us then, instead of supposing.

>>59338782
>>59340938
what is the equivalent of that for arch?

>>59341775
No. I don't want to have to reboot and restart everything just because I may have been wrong on the internet.

>>59341790
Arch uses pacman, so I don't think there is a similar tool.

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>>59341790
>arch

>>59341790
Idk about pacman, but it should be possible to make pacman print the depencies, then parse them with something like sed and pipe everything to graphviz. DIY

>>59341827
>arch friendly debian user
RARE

>>59341888
>implying
the arch vs debian thing was made up by arch fags, for whatever reason, whenever someone insults arch they think it's some debian user

>>59341904
>was made up by arch fags
KDESHILL*

>>59341904
b-but I'm using fedora

How's radeon support on Linux these days? was thinking about switching to nu Debian

>>59341995
nobody uses fedora (except some lonly guy who will reply now)

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>>59341995

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>>59341827
>>59341809
turns out it's quite easy

pactree -g srot | dot -T png > out.png

>>59342049
Take THAT, >>59341811!

>>59341904
Well most people do eventually wind up on either Debian or Arch.

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hmm

pactree -g linux | dot -T png > out.png

>>59342049
Told you! Neat, saved.

>>59342097
>dot
>command not found

>>59341724
>>59341724
These are some awesome vibes fellow anon.

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>>59342097
>systemd

>>59342112
you need graphviz

>>59342137
Lenny Potter from the movies?

>>59340244
It's a bleeding-edge, rolling release, netinstall

>>59342160
one and only

>>59342160
>he doesn't regonize the potter glaases

lmao thread >>59342186

>>59342196
>no rare stallman
;_;

>>59342076
If that's true, then why is Arch a stepping stone? (I've seen this posted several times on /fglt/).

>>59342112
Install graphviz first.

>>59342137

[anon@gnu ~]$ pactree -r -g systemd | dot -T png >/tmp/systemd.png && du -h /tmp/systemd.png
6M    /tmp/systemd.png

Really makes you think.
I couldn't even post the pic because it's too big and 10kx10k px.

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>>59342221
we had worse ops
have a rare stallman

>>59342255
>rms_teaching_freedom.jpg

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>>59342097
>>59342049
this reminds me, there's this thing called pacgraph
it draws a pretty picture of your installed packages

>>59342297
Why are some packages bigger than others?
Is it because they have more dependencies?

>>59342315
I suppose so

>>59341809
>No. I don't want to have to reboot and restart everything just because I may have been wrong on the internet.
It kills all the process possible for the user that execute this command.
So if you're not running it as root you'll go back to your login screen

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>>59342236

$ pactree -r -g systemd | dot -T png > systemd.png && du -h systemd.png
372K    systemd.png

>>59342375
post systemd.png on mixtape.moe pls

>>59342236
debian is a stepping stone also (usually to arch)

>>59342400
meant for >>59342236

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>>59325197
Sup /g/ i am new in the field, i want to start programming but i have not clues where to start?
>how do i hack facebook
not but seriously.. how do i reach the point of creating a AI inside of my PC that help me to do my task and others stuffs?
if this is possible please explain how do i get to that point?
>what are Linux used for?
how long it will take me to learn all the basic about programming?

>>59342718
see >>59342196

>>59339872
OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, easy to set up, comes with firewall and Apparmor preconfigured and occasionally gets new software/kernels before Arch

>>59344275
Is OpenSUSE/SUSE still owned by MicroFocus? I remember that came up in a security thread not long ago

>>59344411
why are you posting in a dead thread, anon?