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Remember pre-2010, when the Internet felt like its own niche

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Remember pre-2010, when the Internet felt like its own niche community? Sure it was full of introverts and weird characters, but they were creative freaks.

This was before millions of Reddit, Buzzfeed, Tumblr, /pol/, iFunny, 9gag, and Facebook fuckheads diluted its original feeling into a cheesy social media-fest which is totally unrecognizable from what it used to be.
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>>59323576
>pre 2010
You're talking about myspac era you underage fuck.
Got to go back to the early 2000s and 90s for what you're talking about.
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>>59323576

eternal reminder
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>>59323600
Not OP, but honestly I agree with him. I remember the internet in it's infancy and honestly I think it peaked around the time when Youtube first launched. There was originality to it. It wasn't always good, but it was better than the echochamber of stupid we have now.
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>>59323576

>pre 2010

lmfao ... try pre 2000

2000 - 2010 was pretty cancerous tbqh. It wasn't much different.
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>G4

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>59323576
>/pol/
>bad
yeah no fuck off abraham
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>>59323576
I remember pre 2000 you faggot, (((social networks))) killed the internet.
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>>59323600
This. 95-99 (pre-Google, pre-dotcom bubble) was the golden age of the Internet: large and mature enough, but still populated mostly by nerds or at least somewhat tech-savvy people. Then big corporations came and made it all about """monetization of content""" for Chads and Staceys and it all turned to shit. Fuck, I miss the intellectual level of 90's Usenet shitposting.
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>>59323720
>he thinks gamergate made the traffic on 4chan go up in 2014.
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It was the 90s, and it was myspace that ruined the web.

Myspace brought in the filthy normies and gave them a place to post about themselves in the most vapid and banal way possible. It fed into millennial narcissism and snowballed into the awful normie bullshit the web has become today.
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>>59323767
Stop
See >>59323834
I agree completely with that anon. By 2007 the Internet was a shitshow
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>>59324053
>The internet was better before people used it
Fuck you guys are hipsters
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>>59324123
It was better m8
It was... diverse
Now everything is consolidated and in the control of a handful of companies
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>>59324123
The web is no longer the web, no longer a decentralised mess of various links and pages.

Now the image is more like a bicycle wheel, where you can spend as much time on the rim as you like but all paths lead to the center.
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>>59324155
I'm not saying it isn't worse now, but the fucking pre-2000's was garbage and you know it. There was no point to it back then, aside from being able to stamp your nerd card. At least we started making more content post 2000. It was like that time when radio was the new rebellious thing before it went completely commercial. We had a few actually good years.
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>>59324195
Other than speed it was infinitely superior to social media shit of now.
Newgrounds is a great example.
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>>59324123
You can't possibly argue that the massive expansion of the internet's user base has contributed to higher quality content creation. It hasn't. In fact it's quite the opposite. The internet used to be only used by professionals and tech savvy folks. They were regarded as geeks for spending hours in front of the screen and on chatting services. Nowadays every twat cunt asshole snot nosed faggot has a phone with internet connection and is more than willing to stand on his metaphorical podium and spew his/her/xir nonsense to the masses. There used to be an idea of the internet, a certain optimism. Now, all that remains is a social media shit show which projects the worst of mankind in all directions 24/7/365.
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Back in a time before youtube, there was StupidVideos. And we rejoiced.
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>>59323576
>pre-2010

I'm sorry to say that the Internet had succumb to full-blown retardation way before then.

>This was before millions of Reddit, Buzzfeed, Tumblr, /pol/, iFunny, 9gag, and Facebook fuckheads diluted its original feeling into a cheesy social media-fest which is totally unrecognizable from what it used to be.

Not participating in social media is a start. You'll find that plenty of small, niche communities still exist out there.

>>59324007
>millennial narcissism

Do you actually know what that word means? Likely every anon in this thread is a millennial, including yourself. Exactly how are we narcissistic?
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>>59324216
This.
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>>59324239
I'm Gen X.

Also, it's hyperbole. Don't take it so seriously.
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>>59324216
Speed isn't as much as an improvement as you'd think, because the increase in bloat has made the benefit of increased speed less than it should be.

The change from a mostly text-based medium to a more image- and video-based one has also erased this improvement's true benefits.
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>>59323576
The internet used to be shit and leftist full of degenerates. Thanks to /pol/ redpilling everyone, the internet is full of based conservatives who work hard to save their race. The weebcucks and NEETs still need to be purged because they're the cancer killing the internet.
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>>59324273
Good luck watching any video back in the 90s let alone streaming.
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>>59324284
I think you missed the point I was making.

That's fine though, since my comment is still there for you to re-read and re-consider.
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>>59324277
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>>59323825
Yes, bringing Facebook, 9gag, and Reddit normalfags in by the droves sure is fantastic isn't it?
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>>59324297
Re read and re considered.... Good luck watching any video back in the 90s let alone streaming.
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>>59324308
>>59324316
Fuck off cucks, you're the cancer killing the internet.
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>>59323576
>Implying it felt anything like that anytime in the new millennium.

The internet felt like what you're describing in the pre-broadband at consumer affordability days. Pre-1999.

The internet hasn't been a niche thing since it actually took a tiny bit of computer literacy to use the internet, where you actually had to actively put in effort to connect each time you wanted to go online.
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>>59324323
>The change from a mostly text-based medium to a more image- and video-based one has also erased this improvement's true benefits.
>The change from a mostly text-based medium to a more image- and video-based one
>The change

You're applying the exact mindset that I am arguing against. The video was astoundingly minimal with the majority being user-generated textual content.
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>>59324277
Oh dear, it appears we have a butthurt wagie amongst us. Did Mr. Shekelstein ask you to come in on Saturday again? It's okay wagie, I'll visit you and witness your magnificent sandwich artistry.
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Don't worry, soon all the cucks, leftists, weeb, and degenerates will be purged to keep the internet right wing. 4chan used to have standards and fought degeneracy regularly.
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>>59324348
The mindset that I want to be able to watch a video?
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>>59323825
>yeah no fuck off abraham
Yeap, /pol/ is a shit.
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>>59323767
>internet infancy
>confusing the internet with the World Wide Web

Nigga plz. I'm 35 and have been using computers since 1989 and I don't even remember the internet in its infancy. If I wanted to be a REAL pedantic asshole, I could say that unless you're pushing 70 years old, it's not even possible for you to have experienced the infancy of the internet since ARPANET was around in the late 1960s.
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>>59324357
You're not white you worthless cuck, you'll be killed during the race war like the rest of the subhumans.
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>>59323576
to me 2008 was a sweet spot.
The thing that i miss the most was NOT SIGN ANYTHING WITH YOUR NAME,
all that privacy, because someone
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>>59323720
> using personal phones instead of corporate networks
> dumb
/g/ in a nutshell
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>>59324277
>The weebcucks and NEETs still need to be purged because they're the cancer killing the internet.
Bring on, faggot.
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>>59324400
Fuck off shlomo you goddamn kike, /pol/ is the face of 4chan.
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We have too many bubbles self enforcing each other, pol, sjw, gamergate or jewbook.
All of this maks discussion impossible.
And elite pretentious fucks don't help.
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>>59324446
You'll face the rope during the race war, subhuman.
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The early days of broadband and Pokémon chats and vbulletin 2

AOL chats and rainbow text..
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>>59323834
>>59324053
>having internet in the 90's
Holy shit what are you guys like 40?
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>>59324485
>Holy shit what are you guys like 40?
i am 34

been on 4chan for far too long, maybe since year 2
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>>59324485
I had internet in the late 90s and was born in 91. What are you 12?
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>>59324378
The mindeset that the video and the image should be the objective of the internet.
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>>59323834
A million fucking times THIS.

I remember a Usenet post being what caused me to start using Linux. I was beta testing win95 and back then any 16 bit program that wasn't just a front-end for a DOS program (I.e. made exclusively in early visual basic) it would throw an error that said "this is not a valid win32 application". And that was basically 90% of the software I used, like anything office related that wasn't Lotus Notes, etc. So I contacted the developers and asked for a 32bit version of the software I needed and they told me they weren't going to take a chance on a beta OS getting tons of bad press and not to expect 32 bit versions until after 1995. Then someone told me via a Usenet post that this thing called Slackware Linux had a nice gui and plenty of alternatives to the software I was missing.

22 years later and I'm still a Linux user, mostly because it's the only way I still feel connected to the internet of old. I don't WANT YOTLD to ever happen. I want Linux to stay somewhat difficult and niche.
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>>59324479

......;;;;;;::::::Methodus Toolz 2.0::::::;;;;;;......
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>>59324510
Right so me wanting to download or stream a movie online means that's all I want. k
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>>59323720
I swear to god gamer gate what the cancer that finally killed 4chan and the internet in general.
>made moot leave
>got trump elected
>SJW fags crying all over the place
>trump fags spewing their shit all over the place
Fucking /v/ man.
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Politics killed 4chan.
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Text based forums are still largely like this, just gotta find the right ones
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>>59323576 (((Jew)))

grow a beard you unterage SHOLOMO ETTINGER
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>>59323834
> but still populated mostly by nerds or at least somewhat tech-savvy people.
>for Chads and Staceys

Things were always catered towards them, always.
You make it seem like geocities never existed, or AOL, or ICQ or any shit that was 'easy' and 'fun'
In the mid to late 90s hearing things like "search for AOL keyword .." on the TV was pretty common, much like "like us on facebook" is today.
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>>59324506
Born in 89 here.
First time I remember having internet was in '02. I was the first of anyone I knew at the time to have an internet connection at home.
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>>59324123
get gassed kike
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>>59324557
You mean right wingers killed 4chan. Before /pol/ 4chan was generally left leaning and only raided people who deserved it such has Neo-Nazi Hal Turner.
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>>59324590
You might be right but I remember using it in school around 97-98 and had at home not long after.
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>>59324470
We will nuke your town, (((pol)))ack.
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>>59323576
there weren't so many linax advertizers back then (at /g/)
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>>59324597
No. Fuck off, faggot. 4chan raided for fun. There were no politics behind it. Making fun of Jews and niggers was done because people get offended by words.

You're probably just baiting though. Here's your (You).
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>>59324227

I find your post overhyped and obnoxious.

I haven't clickbaited your shitty image, I'll let you know this.

If what you call
>higher quality content creation
is the same articles with the same title on most JEWS NEWS TWITTER, then you are a fag.

If you look at KIKEBOOK as something free for you to use, then you are a fag.

At the end of the post, I find you a gullible faggish piece of shit. Bye.
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>>59324195
Pre-2000 internet WAS better.

I remember IRC channels literally in the hundreds of users, Usenet, the pure amazement of being able to type a message, press a button, and less than a second later that message was delivered to someone on the other side of the world....

Oh, and I'll STILL take text based MMOs (MUD,MUSH,MOO,MUX, etc) over the countless World of Warcraft clones of today.

The internet was just plain better. The slower connection speed made people prioritize; if you shared artwork, music, literature, etc you made damn sure it was worthwhile because of how long the upload would take... And if you ever experienced a large upload over dialup then you know how it would hose your bandwidth so that's basically ALL you could do.

Content was of a higher quality, people were more intelligent, trolls were uncommon, and you could download anything you wanted without fear of any government or industry dipshit threatening you for "stealing" data
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>>59324631
This. Before all the "alt right" cancer 4chan "did it for the lulz".
Trolling was done for the pleasure of the board and it's posters and nothing more.
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>>59324485
what are you, 12 y.o.
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>>59324530
almost no one gave a fuck about gamer gate, you stupid faggot. the """journalists""" made it a bigger deal than it was.
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>>59323720

Can't phonefags have their own 4chan? Whenever you enter 4chan with a phone it redirects you to a kind of s4s with all boards available. That way the cancer is contained, server load balanced and everyone would be better off.

All the oldfags could have their pre 2010 4chan and the millenials can have their NO ANIME ON 4CHAN 4chan to themselves. Why isn't this a good idea?

Gookmoot you have my number.
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>>59324265
You sure about that? I'm 35 and I'm a millennial... And I'm usually the oldest on this board with a few rare exceptions
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>>59324678
>MOO

best post ever bro
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>>59324597
4chan was at best libertarian. It was never "left leaning." Obama was never supported here. Ron Paul was the candidate of choice.

Stop trying to rewrite history, you daft faggot. I see you post this drivel every day when it's apparent you haven't been here for more than a year or two.
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>>59324277
>weebcucks and NEETs
>literally saying this on a board started to discuss anime
/pol/ is literally becoming more insufferable than bronyfags. And that's saying something because I fucking hate /mlp/ faggots.
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>>59324449
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Reddit started in 2005.

And computing was horrible back then for Linux.
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>>59324239

GenX here and I agree; millennials stay talking incessantly about themselves, snapping shitty pics of the food they're eating (why the fuck does anyone give a shit?), and showing off whatever shit they have.
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>>59324678
Text just seems such an obvious medium for information sharing considering how many devices you use to access the web have a keyboard attached.

There's still some MUDs around, but usually only have about 100 people even at peak.
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>>59324725
it always was the 3rd choice, but now is MIGA

Make IsraHELL great Again
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>>59323834
When I used altavista because yahoo was shit for searchs
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>>59323576
>pre-2010
lol gtfo mere child
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>>59324717
Taking a visit at wikipedia, I get
> Strauss and Howe define Generation X as those born between 1961–1981
>Pew Research Center which uses a range of 1965–1980
>MetLife which uses 1965–1976
>Australia’s McCrindle Research Center which uses 1965–1979
>Gallup which also uses 1965–1979

On all levels except Met life, I'm Gen X.
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>>59324597
> not realizing that silenced masses will find a way to speak out
Leftards never learn
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>>59324485
>are you guys like 40?
I'm 34. I realize I'm probably wearing a big-ass pair of nostalgia glasses, but I truly believe that content quality (not quantity, obviously) and signal-to-noise ratio were much, _much_ higher back in the 90's than they are now.

Say you're interested in topic X. Back in the day, there was probably a bunch of guys so fucking enthusiastic about X that they had learned HTML and created their "best viewed in 800x600" sites devoted to X with fucktons of useful info and their only agenda was to share and exchange knowledge about X. You could email them and get a response any time, or you could have amazing, in-depth discussions about X on Usenet with some pretty bright people (because the entry barrier of configuring a news client kept all retards away).

Google X today, and you'll get 7369 absolutely useless results of keyword-stuffed, superficial, clickbaity articles on X created solely for the purpose of serving Google Ads next to them. If you want to discuss X, you can do that with a bunch of absolute fucking idiots in a walled garden of Facebook or some other site that either wants to sell you something, or sells you. Or you can watch some irritating faggot "vlogger" that hopes to get both fame and google shekels from talking about X to people that can't be bothered to read.

>>59324515
>Usenet post being what caused me to start using Linux
OS flamewars on comp.os.advocacy was what I used to read for entertainment. It was like proto-/g/, except smarter.
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>>59323834
>I miss the intellectual level of 90's Usenet shitposting.
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>>59324760
Mohammed was a pedophile
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>>59324123
>I wish I knew what you guys were talking about

I understand your frustration anon, things really were better back then.
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You'd think this was bait but it isn't. There really are people as ignorant as OP.
>>59323720
Personally I've been here a long time and occasionally I post on my phone because there's nothing better to do on the toilet (but I did this pre-2011 too).

You can't really presume that the amount of mobile users are "actual" new users. Though maybe I'm an oddity.
>>59324530
I found /v/ ok before that but after that it was just /pol/. So I agree, but:
>and the internet in general.
That's basically you equating 4chan with the rest of the internet. It's a very localized disaster.
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>>59324801
Yeah, I know that. Hence why I said I'm 35 and still considered a millennial (born in 82)... So you could've just said "yeah, I'm 36/37/38/...55"

Props for actually knowing what the fuck millennial means though instead of the common misconception that it means anyone born 2000 or later. Millennial, cuck and botnet are my three instant triggered words because no one on this fucking board seems to know what any of them actually mean.
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>>59324678
oh fuck off with that shit.
it wasn't better.

>I remember IRC channels literally in the hundreds of users
it is still around and still going strong, so is usenet.

>Oh, and I'll STILL take text based MMOs (MUD,MUSH,MOO,MUX, etc) over the countless World of Warcraft clones of today.
that is just preference, doesn't make one better over the other.
like fucking arguing that books are better than movies.


>if you shared artwork, music, literature, etc you made damn sure it was worthwhile because of how long the upload would take
No it fucking wasn't , it was still mostly garbage, low res low quality garbage.
Stop trying to pretend like pre 2000's internet was a bastion for all these savants and artists
People had far fewer tools back then to create anything, so it was the same shit everywhere.
1999 gave us the hamster song and the Eiffel 65 Blue song that was spammed on the internet as well as the radio that year.


>wanted without fear of any government or industry dipshit threatening you for "stealing" data
Given the size of the community of people sharing things they generally fell under the radar for a while.
Just like no one is going to bust your dumb ass if you put on a movie on a USB drive and give it to your friends VS running a large operation of selling bootleg dvds
Just like DeCSS caught their eye in 1999
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>>59324827
>Say you're interested in topic X. Back in the day, there was probably a bunch of guys so fucking enthusiastic about X that they had learned HTML and created their "best viewed in 800x600" sites devoted to X with fucktons of useful info and their only agenda was to share and exchange knowledge about X. You could email them and get a response any time, or you could have amazing, in-depth discussions about X on Usenet with some pretty bright people (because the entry barrier of configuring a news client kept all retards away).

Awww man reading shit like this actually depresses me. The internet used to be so much fun. That feel of finding a genuinely good website with a visitor counter under 10... Goddamn anon.
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>>59324733
its nothing new really
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Me_generation
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>>59324890
>it is still around and still going strong, so is usenet.
I still find IRC to be the best thing for what it is. Fuck that slack/discord bullshit.
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>>59324760
do you suck aisha with that mouth?
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>>59323576
something something fuck you underage something something muh REAL old days something something u don't know nuthin kid something something get off my web something le i'm old meme
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>>59324195
>There was no point to it back then
There were search engines where you could find groups of people who are invested in topics on a relatively deep level or relatively good articles written on topics.

Now if you search a topic you either get academic papers, casual forums like /g/, overclockers dot com, various garbage news sites that make clickbait material.

Now if you wish to find that you have to go to twitter, find what prominent people in communities you care about link to or retweet and look at that, go from there.

As for what I consider quality content (because most have forgotten I bet):
http://www.adriancourreges.com/blog/2016/09/09/doom-2016-graphics-study/
This is very good stuff (and also relatively easy to find, but it's what springs to mind). And there's stuff like this all over the place but it's not easily found. I'm sure there's plenty of stuff I don't find at all. Because really the internet is getting bigger and there's not less people writing really good articles now than there was before, probably.

It's just very hard to find. Back in the day, even as late as OP claims the internet was still good it was way easier to find this. It's very frustrating.
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>>59324947
I remember mirc and before mirc supported multiple server connections there was pirch.

And then all the scripts for mirc and the packages and shit.

I remember at some time being in #divx.edu and *trading* 700MB rips of movies.
They looked like total garbage compared to today, less than 640x480 and ass quality.

Then divx went commercial so xvid was born as an offshoot.
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>>59324323
>he doesn't know about Real streaming video and audio.

I used to stream lots of audio and video back in the 90's. Listened to The Womb back inna day after work all the time. Good DJ's, great sets, good times. Atom Films had a shitton of video to stream back in the late 90's. Camsites with bitches gettin naked on cam and couples fucking...

Streaming video existed.
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>>59324981
you seem like a millenial fluid crackwhore.
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>>59323576
>pre-2010 Internet
translation
>I am an underage faggot who wishes I was born 10 years earlier to experience an era I'm inexplicably nostalgic for
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>>59324323
>not knowing about stamp sized real player porn
nigger please
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>>59325023
>a millenial fluid crackwhore
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Dear God, anons. Was a pain in the ass to download things by kazza, emule or ares.
I don't miss nothing about try use dial-up and low and expensive Internet of 00. (Born in 88).
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>>59323576
you sound like a whiny young transgender here
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>>59325088
early napster

LLAMAS

irc pirate sharing
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>>59325023
i am indeed part of the glorious millennial master race. btw i am also a reddit user
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>>59324890
Eiffel 65 was just barely 1999, and hamster dance was summer 2000. The former was not nearly as popular on the internet as the latter and didn't even have anything to do with the internet.

Most modern MMOs share a lot of features with their text-based predecessors, to the point where EverQuest actually borrowed shit directly from a MUD, so it's not really anything like comparing books to movies... It's more like comparing silent films to early talking pictures.

You show me a single IRC network that's even close to 1990s EFnet, Undernet, or DALnet. It was not uncommon for the channel listing to have well over a hundred channels with 100+ nicks in them, 24/7, on all three networks. Freenode and RizOFF can't even compare.

And as for pirating/warez, it definitely wasn't that there was any shortage of people doing it, it was just that no one really cared. A lot of those packed channels on IRC were for downloading books, video games, music, etc. It wasn't until the Napster and metallic debacle that people started trying to attach a monetary value to file sharing.

The internet was a glorious fucking place before 2000. Just because things were lower resolution back then doesn't mean they didn't look great on the equally low res displays. Sure, RealPlayer buffering nonstop when trying to watch a video kinda sucked, and mp3s being like 48kbps was pretty terrible sounding, but it was the sheer wondrous magic of suddenly having all of these things stored on a computer that you used to have to have a physical object like a VHS cassette or a CD to enjoy
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>>59325104
>irc pirate sharing
this, but yes the speed was absolute shit, that's the only thing that has improved.
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>>59324410
quit being a sperglord, you know exactly what he is talking about

fucking autist
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>>59324827
>Say you're interested in topic X. Back in the day, there was probably a bunch of guys so fucking enthusiastic about X that they had learned HTML and created their "best viewed in 800x600" sites devoted to X with fucktons of useful info and their only agenda was to share and exchange knowledge about X. You could email them and get a response any time, or you could have amazing, in-depth discussions about X on Usenet with some pretty bright people (because the entry barrier of configuring a news client kept all retards away).

jesus... Brings back a longing for the days of Geocities, Angelfire, and Tripod. I learned sooooooooo much back then for the exact reason you said: The whole idea was to share and exchange knowledge about X.

Want to learn how to emulate a processor to get your Rygar arcade emulator going? There was plenty of info on it out there. Got an idea about a home-brew game console? Guess what? Lots of other guys do to and they're all willing to share ideas and whatnot.

Shit was great back then.
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>>59324890
>>if you shared artwork, music, literature, etc you made damn sure it was worthwhile because of how long the upload would take
>No it fucking wasn't , it was still mostly garbage, low res low quality garbage.
>Stop trying to pretend like pre 2000's internet was a bastion for all these savants and artists
>People had far fewer tools back then to create anything, so it was the same shit everywhere.
>1999 gave us the hamster song and the Eiffel 65 Blue song that was spammed on the internet as well as the radio that year.

No, asshat. ASCIIart and the colored versions were great.

Demos were great.

Asshat.
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>>59324597
>occupy democrats
This isn't facebook, mom.
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>>59324410
>If I wanted to be a REAL pedantic asshole
you already are mate
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>>59325104
I still prefer today with nyaa.se and torrent.
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>>59324827
This is fucking brutal.
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>>59325160
holy shit what a leftdowner he is
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What's it like being over 30? I recently turned 28 and I'm terrified of growing old.

I pretty much spent my entire twenties in a timeless isle of youth. For the most part even when I turned 26 most people thought I was like, 18 at most. So I enjoyed a certain...freedom, since everyone assumed "well he's young, he'll figure his life out eventually" and nobody ever expected anything of me.

But lately... I think I'm starting to age. It's scaring the shit out of me. I have lines under my eyes. And people these days say I look 20-21. I'm almost 30 and I have no idea how to be an adult. I'm not even sure if I want to be one.
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>>59324827
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>>59325210
It will sadden you deeply to watch your parents grow old
It will keep you up at night trying to figure out how you will take care of them in their old age.
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>>59324890
>Stop trying to pretend like pre 2000's internet was a bastion for all these savants and artists
>People had far fewer tools back then to create anything, so it was the same shit everywhere.


the original MP3.com and AtomFilms disputes this notion.
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>all these sperglord hipsters ITT
Hurrr my nostalgia is better than your nostalgia.
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>>59325210

>"i fucked off for the majority of my life and now idk what to do"

>>>/adv/
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>>59325210
Oh god that fucking feel man.
I just turned 27 and this is the first year I actually am starting to feel "old". It's weird going out and seeing 21 year olds just starting to drink at the bars. Used to not have to worry about looking like a creeper for hitting on chicks at the bar but now it feels weird.
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>>59323825
>abraham
The edge is strong in this teen
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>>59325329
>>59325210
28 year old here, and I feel the same.

Feel like I need to quit the net and go on a spirit quest or something...
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>>59325307
preview: kill yourself
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>>59324411
>implying whiteys will win the race war
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Anyone remember playpen?
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>>59324515
So which distro are you using now?
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>tfw endless september pleb
>>59325210
Either you stay ignorant, or you remember what a dumbass you were(and hope nobody notices you're using the past tense incorrectly)
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>>59325210
It's my 24th birthday today and this is how I feel. I'm not where I imagined myself in life. I feel like I barely count as an adult. Trying to get my ducks in a row so I can go back to college, but I feel as though I have already let my parents down and wasted my youth on the internet.
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>>59324053
Bruh, even usenet oldfags used to call it shit, the general feeling it had is frightening similar to what we see in twatter and leddit nowadays. Google has an archive of that shit, check it out.

All the annoying fedoras shitting on christianism whenever anyone remotely mentioned the bible in any way
All the faggots baiting for tech support
All the Linux hipsters crying for Linux support in Doom
All the /pol/ tier shit
It was a mixed bag of shit between anon-posting and leddit
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>>59325210
>>59325329
>>59325365

30 here, sorry guys, but this is just the beginning, it's only downhill from here.

>>59325249
:(
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>>59325210
>>59325329
>>59325365
>>59325419
gl fellow soon-to-be oldfags
>>59325249
>tfw already starting to feel this
I wasn't ready for this thread
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early 2000's was the comfiest for me, but thats probably due to nostalgia

around 2005 is when myspace and scene faggots started injecting there cancer into the internet

if anything the internet has gotten better since 2010 due to all the new technological advancements
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>>59324277
>The weebcucks and NEETs still need to be purged because they're the cancer killing the internet.

Kys Neo /pol/
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>>59324597
Yeah. The vermin quality shitposting is getting annoying. The /pol/ underbeings from facebook are responsible for a massive loss of quality.
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>>59323600
This. As someone who saw BBS near its end, and rode the WWW wave since the beginning, I'd have to say the mid-late 90's was the internet at its best. Internet went to shit when it was accessible to everyone, including morons and children.
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>>59325433
>I wasn't ready for this thread
same man, this thread fucking sucks
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>>59325483
>Internet went to shit when it was accessible to everyone, including morons and children.
Just who do you think made it accessible ? The nerds, people like us made the programs to make the internet more accessible.
So who is to ultimately blame for this perceived decline ?
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>>59323576
Ive been posting on my phone since 2009
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>>59323720
>gamergate
>not the fappening
Yeah, no one cares about naked celebrities. It was definitely people upset about videogames that flooded the site.
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>Oh sweet, a nostalgia th-
>We're talking about wasting our lives in the net?
>...Oh...
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>>59325507
Fully aware of that. Just glad to have been there during the golden years.

>Heat.net
>mPlayer
>Shareware.com
>GeoCities
>YahooChat

Everything was exciting as fuck.
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Remember when /b/ got into Sarah Palin's e-mail? I do
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>>59323720
Fuck drumpf
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Pre-google was the most interesting time.
Geocities and websites resorting to having chain links to other sites to someway direct traffic between each other.
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>>59325402
>wasted my youth on the internet
GO. OUT. SIDE.
Seriously. Not trying to be a dick but it's the worst feeling in the world getting to be a 30 year old and realizing the only friends you have are on the internet and you wasted your 20's away shitposting on the internet.
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>>59325564
www.Geocities.com/Athens/The-Temple/Traditio.htm
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>>59325564
Because you was young. Samething apply to 3d porn.
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>>59325511
You might be the oldest poster in this thread.
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>>59325595
>wasted your 20's away shitposting on the internet.
Have something better?
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>>59325402
Act, go out in the sun and make mistakes. You're here for that.
Protip: you get to an age where you don't care where you'd imagine you'd be. You just deal with what's there and worry nothing about judgmentes. Guilt is an illusion, and a crappy one.
PS Happy birthday anon
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>>59325604
Speaking of which, anyone remember the early days of porn sites when they required you to send a copy of your ID or drivers license proving you were over 18?

That could have gone really fucking wrong, in hindsight. Thank fuck for the early free porn search engines.
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>>59325646
omg
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>>59325627
Yeah it's called meeting new people, making new friends, getting laid, having fun with real life people.
>inb4 muh autism
I used to be a total sperg bit I finally managed to escape and meet new people. You just have to find people with common interests.
It feels really good. I mean I still shitpost on here occasionally but not all day and night like I used to.
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>>59324706
I'll never understand the endless parade of circa 2007, technically retarded 'oldfags' who always do exactly these two things.
1: hating on the idea of browsing from a mobile device
2: think that any (or often some specific) form of banning a portion of the userbase will solve this nonexistent problem of bandwidth.

For your first point, sir. Nothing is going to stop people from browsing on phones. When you're on your 10 minute break, or you're in the shitter, or whatever, and you want to entertain yourself, you're not going to pick up a book, you're going to pull out your phone.

There is also no reasonable way to implement 'banning' the so called phoneposters. user agents can and are often spoofed. and IPs are a terrible way to determine whether a device is a phone or not. IP ranges given to cellular networks can be tethered to through 3G dongles or phones, and wifi can be accessed through phones.

It's not technically feasible, it's not logical, and it's never going to happen. Stop whining about it.

Now for the second point. The assumption that retards like you make is that 4chan has a bandwidth problem, and banning some slew of users will fix that. It will not. 4chan had a single month with precious little advertising, which was a problem, but is not anymore. Advertising revenue is high enough to ensure that 4chan functions into the future. And even if 4chan were still having a money problem, each user can be considered to have a roughly even impact on both server bandwidth and ad impressions. This is because we're all viewing the same fucking content. If you remove any amount of users you will deduct the same fraction of bandwidth and ad revenue. The problem of one user not seeing enough ads to pay for one megabyte of data is the same problem as a million users not seeing enough ads to pay for one terabyte of data. IT'S THE SAME PROBLEM ONLY AT A DIFFERENT SCALE YOU FUCKING NITWIT
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>>59324557
The internet is only a reflection of the real world.

Your average american didn't used to care about politics, now they do, and there's a lot more foreigners here too who also tend to care a lot more about politics.

>>59324597
Here's the (you). 4chan never had and still doesn't have a particular leaning, most people here used to be and still are just a bunch of contrarians going against whatever seems to be the "normie" point of view.
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>>59324485
30 almost 31 and have grown up with it since childhood
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>>59324678
>The slower connection speed made people prioritize; if you shared artwork, music, literature, etc you made damn sure it was worthwhile because of how long the upload would take...
So true.

>>59324706
>Can't phonefags have their own 4chan? Whenever you enter 4chan with a phone it redirects you to a kind of s4s with all boards available.
Yes.

>>59324827
Absolutely this.
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>>59324827
I'll save this post to my pastas.
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>>59325740
you have to go back to kikebook
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>>59325800
I don't even have a kikebook account you fucking nigger faggot. Go take a statistics course you fucking philistine
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>>59325740
You have a good point, but you're far overestimating the effort that people will go to shitpost, it's something mostly (apart from a few dedicated trolls who are becoming a rarer and rarer breed) done in the spur of the moment. Just placing a low barrier to entry could conceivably cut down a lot of trouble.

>>59325800
not an argument.
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Another 1982er here, I remember staying up late on chatrooms in like 1994, so there were always shithead kids online. That was back when getting on the internet made noise, now get off my lawn. Realizing I was old was actually kind of liberating. I had a cushy, secure dead end career already and bought a house a couple years back. That's what you aim for, younguns, you want to own your home. That gives you the security you need to feel the full adult experience, the knowledge you could provide for a friend or family member in need, and it gives you the confidence to not care you're old, and to know you're right in arguments and disagreements. Also it stops mattering what you wear in your free time, because by default you can't be cool. It's pretty great.
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>>59325645
>>59325595
thanks anons, it's reassuring to hear that from someone who isn't my mom
>>59325664
Is meeting people at a regular college enough, or should I join a club or sorority? I hate bar and club atmospheres. I went to an art school before and didn't make any friends since I couldn't find anyone with common interests in my classes. It's hard enough to find a girl that's down to earth or a guy who doesn't get feelings from simply hanging out. I'm hoping I won't have as much difficulty since I'll be in a STEM field this time.
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>>59325844
That might work for some smalltime website like sadpanda, but it would just be on the news

>Infamous pedophile nazi website 4/Chan adds secret security to hide baby murders
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>>59325407
The internet has noticeable shrunk in terms of websites. Use to be when you used a search engine you'd find all sorts of different amateur websites all devoted to a subject and blogs. Now it's like wikipedia, a 'journalist' type website or two, and one thousand advertisement related pages or a buy now thing, everything else DMCA takedown notices.
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>>59324703
yeah alrighty there m8y, tell that to the hourly general witch hunts on /v/ and /b/
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>>59325889
>or a guy who doesn't get feelings from simply hanging out.
Get the fuck out already, roach. Gays does not have excuses to be autists also.
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>>59324277
>The weebcucks and NEETs still need to be purged because they're the cancer killing the internet.
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>>59325888
oldfag get checked
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>>59323576
>pre-2010
lol
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>>59324277
I love how now that trump won stormfags think they can post shit like this on 4chan.
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>>59325210
I'm turning 20 this Sunday and i'm really worried that this is how I'll end up.

I never finished highschool and don't really have an interest in going to college.
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>>59326050
It's a '"Millenium Falcon Gaylord tries to be edgy on a faraway chat planet'" Episode.
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>>59326119
>I never finished highschool and don't really have an interest in going to college.
Stop be lazy faggot and end this shit. Is pretty easy and help a lot.
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>>59326119
so your interests is reaction faces?
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>>59326119
You'd have to be a literal retard to fail the GED. Sure, you'll have the aroma of failure sticking around, but it's a start.
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>>59326119
Nigger, take advantage of your energy while you have to learn something useful, it wears off at 21 and will take a lot of time to get used to the lack of it. I am only learning to deal with it now that I am 25, only to get hit again at 30.
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>>59326119
Is that hentai>
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>>59325646

I remember the days when you would search for something even remotely related to porn on Yahoo and have full blown XXX rated banners in the search results page.
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>>59326119
Wew boy you better get your GED before they switch it to being based on common core methods and you have no idea what they are even asking of you.
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I'm looking forward to checking this thread in the archive.
>>59325888
Nice post and nice digits
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>>59325595
You could also go and meet those internet friends in person.

>>59326142
>>59326156
>>59326228
I expend a bit of time trying to explain myself but honestly I don't feel like making up excuses tonight, I really should.

>>59326143
>>59326162
I tried to self-teach coding multiple times over the course of the last 3 years, that's what I intended to do instead of college. But I've done little to no progress, I've learned a lot about computers and the way they work but i'm still completely unable to write programs in any language.
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>>59325888
>and to know you're right in arguments and disagreements.
so thats why old people are stupid and unwilling to learn.

>complete arbitrary set of tasks
>put on big boy pants
>change name tag to "A.Dolt"
>Achieve superior wisdom and knowledge out of nowhere.
>I have a house therefore Im right.
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>>59326187
And the endless fucking popups.
>checking out porn, when someone comes in the room
>trying to close 20 instances of Netscape or IE popups, more keep opening

That was the fucking worst. It was easier to just shut the computer down.
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>>59326119
It's understandable if you really don't want to go to college, but I'd say you should at least go for you GED.
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>>59326259

Yeah, that shit fuckin sucked. Guy I worked with got reprimanded for surfing porn at work. He got caught because of the endless popups appearing even after minimizing his browser and going back to his terminal program.
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>>59323576
a/s/l
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>>59323576
>/pol/ diluted the internet

go back to le ddit already you leftist retard
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>>59325210
>What's it like being over 30?
Pretty much same as being 20 for me (I'm approaching 35), except with some grey hair and harder time getting a boner. The most important realization of getting older is that life is short and has absolutely no meaning or purpose. Which is scary at first, but quite liberating when you think about it: there is no good answer to "what should I do with my life?" because ultimately it doesn't fucking matter. Whether you spend it acquiring currency, drinking, raising children, prasing Jesus or shitposting on /g/, you'll end up dead sooner than you think, so wherever life might take you, just roll with it, be cool and try to make it comfy. Also: don't be fat and/or autistic and fuck a lot of young chicks. PROTIP: pick ones with daddy issues later in life.
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>>59326244
You should! It's really low-pressure and not that time consuming. I took it 2 years after leaving high school in 10th grade, because my state wouldn't allow me to take it until I was 18. It was so easy, even easier than the pre SAT and ACT they make you take in middle school. I didn't study, but you could probably use khan or something to freshen up without paying 30 dollars for one of those practice books. I got into college just fine with it and never had an issue getting a job.
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>>59325210
I passed that line recently and I'm enjoying it wholeheartedly. Lot of freedom, very little obligation beside taking care of some basic animal comforts for yourself. You can pursuit any goal you set for yourself - or no goals at all.
I'm generally in better shape both physically and mentally that I was some 5 or 10 years ago. It's all matter of setting your priorities right.
When you need a bit of a motivation - consider that if you've not indebted yourself for another two decades via mortgage or crotchspawns, you're already better off than vast majority of population.
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>>59325664
>having fun with real life people
Turning 31 in a month and whilst i did a little partying when I was like 19/20 it seemed like a waste of time just like shitposting here. And I think you are putting way too much value on "people".

My experiences with people in general have been almost always universally negative, but not because they're rude or mean. People are just idiots in general even when they're nice. Most people can't seem to separate how another person makes you feel vs how they actually are. Everyone's shit stinks hard and there are maybe only a very small percentage of people who are actually cool, but don't take my word for it.
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>>59326387
Honestly, nu/pol/ is shit. I can't even stand to go there anymore. Haven't been able to for a couple years.

Now it's just a bunch of underage phonefags who roll for dubs, say things like "normie", unironically worship a sandnigger frog god, believe in mystical nonsense, watch youtube instead of reading books, think there's such a thing as a "based" negro/gay/joo/etc., and have completely lost sight of the JQ.

That board is a perfect example of what OP is talking about... and he's right.

>cuck cuck shill
ad infinitum
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>>59324728
Sure thing weebshit, anime is the only thing holding 4chan back, now back to your containment shithole named /a/
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>>59326552
>think there's such a thing as a "based" negro/gay/joo/etc.,
It's funny how you stormfaggots were driven back by the very movement you created, I hope you're enjoying the influx of /r/thedonald posters on your board. In the end, your own success ended up doing you in. You were honestly lucky that moot didn't decide to just delete your board forever and ever (although getting Trump elected was no small feat, I'll concede you that much).
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>>59326552
>le stormfag face

im happy you faggots were driven out. And don't think you're an oldfag, /new/ didn't use to be full on nazi. just go to your 8leaf circlejerk
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I know what OP means, the social media stuff used to be a lot less "normal", even. The photos were shitty and awkward, there were no cool filters, most photos were taken with low end digital cameras with the flash on, politics weren't that big. It was a lot less serious or... well, normal, it was still kinda disconnected from "the real life" and no one was expected to use it. Myspace wasn't too big where I live tho.

I liked 2005-2010 internet. It was already about as convenient as nowadays, piracy was already very easy (very important), forums were pretty well alive and IRC was the place for chatting - IRC was the best and it still would be if more people used it. Youtube was nice back when it was more amateur-ish, too.
Image boards were a bit better, and no, it isn't just nostalgia. /pol/ bullshit is absolutely intolerable and leaking to every image board.
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>>59326772
Yeah the mid 00s were a nice mix of having modern technology like faster computers, internet, and better cameras mixed with before the government started to clamp down hard on shit.

It was a very nice period for porn
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>>59326701
>>59326730
>le stormcuck
>no racism on 4chan pls
Nothing at all on the actual criticisms of your shitty normalfag kid-infested board. Didn't think there would be.
Just baseless accusations drawn from swimming in your own bullshit for too long on a board where Lord Kuk's magical numbers can do the thinking for you... when you like them, that is.
Such is the intellectual level of the average /pol/ack today.

Dark times. Just like OP said.
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>>59326772
I miss the forum golden-age that was the mid 2000s.

Not saying they aren't still a thing, but they have definitely been driven back a lot by social media. As has everything.

Social media pages like kikebook let you do what before would require 5 different sites without ever leaving their tightly regulated ecosystem, and the shit part is that you can't really leave because it makes no sense to go to a site with no people in it.

I don't mind /pol/, they're not worst than the left-leaning parasites that would be in their place otherwise.
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>>59326387
>>>/r/the_donald
>>>/r/alt_right
>>
the only difference i can think of between 2005 internet and today is that the search engines are less usable because of "SEO" faggots
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>>59326904
Where's the cp?
That's different.
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>>59326930
search based sharing peer to peer isn't gone, torrents just became the most popular peer to peer system
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>>59326920
>.com
Bait/10
>>>/v/
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>>59326250
I was phoneposting while on the shitter, I wasn't as verbose as I could have been. Owning a house isn't some arbitrary line, there are a few hoops you have to jump through to get there, and you have a real tangible result. I don't pay rent, people pay ME rent, and the mortgage payments ultimately are stored in the house's value. When it's paid off, most of the money I paid to the bank is magically mine again. This gives you incentive to keep the house nice, and your neighborhood nice. It ties you to the people around you, because your neighbors have the same interest in having a safe place to live as you do. They want their neighbors' houses and yards to look nice because it helps the value of their own home. When they take care of their yards it brings up the value of your house. Homeownership is a bulwark against division, and it's a substantial part of the glue that holds our society together. It ties you to a place and makes you care about it.
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>Man I miss the web when it wasn't dominated by global corporations
>Man I hate you for going against global corporations
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>>59326876
>your
Fuck off faggot, I'm not here to make a case for /pol/ or anything, don't project that shit on me. I'm just stating my observation.
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>>59326887
>I don't mind /pol/, they're not worst than the left-leaning parasites that would be in their place otherwise.
They politicize image boards (in particular) too much. I prefer amoral humor over their politics disguised as humor. I want passionless nihilism, not any sort of fanatical far right shit, or leftist shit for that matter.

Some edgy joke is all okay fun and so on, it just shouldn't be ideologically motivated, you know?

The /pol/'s kinda serious conspiracy theories and racist things and so on get tiresome as hell, especially since they kinda bleed everywhere.
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>>59326989
Who are you quoting?
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>>59327025
Madoka.
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>>59323576
True

now people put all their energy into telling other internet users how retarded,fags,idiots,newfag,plebit,autistic they are, instead of focusing on the main topic
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>>59325249
>It will sadden you deeply to watch your parents grow old


this so much
it's killing me, especially being single with no wife or kids to take my mind off things
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>>59324827
The problem is:
>keyword-stuffed, superficial, clickbaity articles
Third worlders/scammers.

>walled garden of Facebook or some other site that either wants to sell you something, or sells you.
Corporations and normalslime.

Basically everyone else except the 1% of sentient creatures on this earth.
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>>59324643
Back to twatter cunt, you're too mentally impaired you can't read beyond the first fucking sentence.
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>>59327011
I welcomed the right wing stuff at first.
Now, I'm with you. I just miss the mildly malevolent apathy that was once a hallmark of the internet.

We'll never get it back.
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>>59327097
i think you may have gotten trolled there

solid first post though
spot on
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>>59326887
I really want to fuck tomoko and after cuddle her sweaty stinky body silly.
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>>59327098
Honestly that apathy wasn't the "default" state of the Internet, it was a product of the Gen X/Y nihilistic, anti-moral (in the sense that it was against moralfaggotry) culture. Had the internet been invented in, say, the 70's, our vision of the golden age would've been very different.
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Pre-2010, kek.

Mosaic browser in 1994 m80, those were the days.

Only they weren't, I remember going to the websites of multinationals and you've have the corporate logo as a BMP and a list of sales offices to write to for a brochure for whatever it is they sold. Fair to say they really didn't get it.

I was actually in the internet society at university. A society for the small minority of people interested in using the internet for a few hours a week. There were about 30 of us. Hard to believe now, but I guess at one time there were societies for people who thought there might be something in using electricity as well.
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>>59323576
>Recent tags
>Sex
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>>59324053
What are you even supposed to do on the consumer internet (yes I realise 4chan comprises part of that). When I'm not looking up information or working on something that requires access to the web I'm completely lost. How do people manage to spend hours watching youtube videos or browsing facebook? It's so mind-numbingly dull.
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>>59323576
I remember pre-2000. Era of email lists, and when usenet was actually used for discussion. Before social networks, and sites that let you set up your own free bulletin board that nobody used because there were already fifty others on the same topic or you overly narrowed the focus of yours.
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>>59325740
>IPs are a terrible way to determine whether a device is a phone or not. IP ranges given to cellular networks can be tethered to through 3G dongles or phones, and wifi can be accessed through phones.
Who cares about tetherfags though? They're just as bad, if not worse than phoneposters, since they can't even afford an actual internet connection.
Just block the whole IP range, watch the population on here decrease and enjoy 4chan getting slightly better thanks to the reduction in users.

Also next time try making your point without writing a whole essay about it, thanks
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>>59327363
>Who cares about tetherfags though? They're just as bad, if not worse than phoneposters, since they can't even afford an actual internet connection.
I'm sorry for trying to post during an internet outage in my neighborhood.

>4chan getting slightly better thanks to the reduction in users.
I don't see how you can come to the conclusion that less users is better. I remember back when /g/ was slow as fuck. It was still shit, but at least now you can actually hold a conversation
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>>59327318
I use twitter to follow the news (its an easy way to get a list of news from many many sources)
and youtube to watch various things (well, I actually just youtube-dl interesting talks, lectures, reviews or documentaries)

do you never read or watch anything, online or not? it really isn't very different from a newspaper or watching a documentary from TV
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Bring back hacker culture.

https://youtu.be/GDdVbOcUlTo

And yeah, Wargames, never mind the hardware, there are several 1:1 reshoots just in the titles alone.
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>>59327402
The problem with 4chan and large traffic is that the structure of 4chan isn't built to deal with it. Understand that Moot initially literally copypasted 4chan's code from 2chan, and that code is only built to comport 149 threads at any time via the bump system. While this ensures constant fresh content, it also privileges short and generally poorly-thought out or utterly redundant posts that contribute nothing to a discussion, therefore the faster a board becomes, the shitposting (and if a red board pornposting) in it increases exponentially.
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>>59327501
You realize that 4chan can get additional pages to keep content from disappearing too quickly, right?
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Is Facebook the most cancerous website in existence?
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>>59327529
Well, sure, but my point still stands since many people only skim the first page, especially on fast boards.
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>>59327535
Anything taken over by normalfags is bound to be cancerous.
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>>59327539
Whether people skim the first page only or not doesn't really factor in to the equation. What matters is whether they have time to have thought out discussions on the board. I can have pretty decent chats on /pol/ half of the time, and that's one of the fastest boards around. Pretty sure I had a ten post back and forth on /b/ the last time I visited. I think you're imagining a cause that isn't real. We're having a conversation right now. This thread is hours old.

Where are the billion 'one post by this ID' that make threads reach bump limit in minutes? I don't see them
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i am pretty old i remember the usenet and irc oh and also bbs days. i still check out usenet feeds but they are becoming obsolete. i like this gay site primarily because of its layout and its simplicity.
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>>59327577
I'm extrapolating this from my experience before I left /b/ in 2012 and never looked back. Replies with a lack of depth bump threads and eat the bump limit very fast.
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>>59323576
>implying /pol/acks werent the ones who built it all
this is how i know you werent back in the old days of the internet. it was literally majority alt news alt politics alt culture conspiracy theories hacking etc
>2010
faggot
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>>59327611
/b/ was always shit. People were always making shit threads. Hell half of the time it was just those PENIS walls of text. /b/ didn't change with more users. You did
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>>59327011
They are definitely a cancer within the realms of this particular site, but desu the anti-/pol/ stuff is a lot more prevalent outside of a few select boards from what I've seen.

You don't need to be a /pol/tard to be a racists or sexists, or hate muslims or whatever other shit, but now every time anyone makes such a comment there's always one dipshit that goes "REEE POL GET OUTTA MY BOARD".
There's also a lot of obvious shitposters who get a lot of (you)'s for some reason.

like I've said, the internet just reflects the real world, /pol/ has become what it is because they're a reaction to the real world becoming overly PC and left-leaning, that's why in the early days they were still assholes, but they went against pretty much everything they say to be for now.
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>>59325386
Ubuntu minimal.

I know a lot of people hate it, but I don't mind the sacrifice of some of my packages being a little bit old if everything just works straight out of the box. I don't really care to spend hours configuring and ricing like I used to.
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>>59324827

So much this
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>>59325747
>4chan never had and still doesn't have a particular leaning, most people here used to be and still are just a bunch of contrarians going against whatever seems to be the "normie" point of view.
How many years you think till being a right wing conservative is the normalfag view to have?
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>>59327643
Your lack of capitalization and /v/eddit gif is how I know you weren't either.
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>>59327643
>The only places I ever went to were right-wing forums so that's what I thought the internet looked like.
That's the real difference between the old internet and the current internet. There were not a dozen mega websites that everyone went to and interconnected everything socially; there were ten thousand little places that people never left. Of course it looked like a niche community because you stuck to your niche community. But there were millions of them and they didn't start looking alike until... well until 4chan popped up and everyone started acting like 4chan, frankly (but that was probably just the /v/-esque communities I tended to go to back then, I'm sure each type of community had their various big websites that popped up and drove their little mom and pop myphp boards out of business).
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>>59327828
lol @ this guy
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Y'all niggas need to read THIS:

http://shii.bibanon.org/shii.org/knows/4chan.html

http://shii.bibanon.org/shii.org/knows/How_the_Web_was_Lost.html
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>>59327402
>I don't see how you can come to the conclusion that less users is better.
Hmm, maybe it's the simple fact that communities are always better with less users, and more people almost always makes the signal to noise ratio even worse?
I'd try to find sources for this but there's really no need, once you've been on the internet long enough you know it's true.

>I'm sorry for trying to post during an internet outage in my neighborhood.
If you're addicted enough to 4chan that you absolutely need to post during an outage, you should be double banned, banned for tethering and banned for being a gigantic faggot.
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>>59327805
If we are talking exclusively about the USA. It used to be for the longest time, the whole "AMERICA, FUCK YEAH" satires about nationalism and dumb fat white people that don't know anything about the rest of the world comes from that era.

That's why most old loonies that talk about aliens and conspiracy theories are still pretty left-leaning.

>>59327855
To be fair the stereotype of the early internet (and probably the stereotype of the current internet outside of the big sites) was that it was the hideout of social outcasts and "alternative" media.
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>>59327865
Didn't know there was an archive.
Thanks, anon.
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>>59327894
If we're talking like 1980's, the stereotype was pretty much just star trek nerds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNJ6dFwh8a4
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>>59327930
I shouldn't have said "early".

I actually meant late 90s and early 2000s.
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>>59327930
>>59327954
Or in other words the whole "l33t h4x0r" idea that Matrix or whatever created.
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>2000s: feeling outcast by society who thought that using the internet all day was for losers
>today: same people are addicted to social media, use their phones all day, and are still computer illiterate; couldn't get jobs working for us in the tech industry even if they tried.
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>>59328018
lel it's funny. my mom who constantly told me to get off the computer and go outside is now constantly on her phone.
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>>59323576
Smart phone users, predominately non-aborted children, fuck everything up. Now, all types of degenerate parents and their relatives fart around and contaminate.
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>>59328030
>retarded family tells me to get off the computer and go outside
>while being on their god danm phones the whole day
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Facebook started in 2004
MySpace started in 2003

So I would say that the era you're speaking about is before this.
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>>59324357
>Wagie
>Working for a kike
>Not making money by moving it around
If you cant beat the kikes, join em in their Jewry.
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>>59324805
More like flyover country is eternally assblasted about the majority of the population having moved to coastal cities, making it vulnerable for exploitation by Trump & Co.
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>>59324678
For me the golden age was the 2000s, especially the former half. That's when the amount of information available and accessibility to it went through the roof, but those using the internet were, for the most part, technically minded intelligent folks. Sure people bickered in various corners, but a lot of it was good-hearted and encouraged one to question and examine his own views.

I, for one, am much more balanced and objective about things than I would have been had the internet not existed as it did during my high school years (2000s). It makes me sad that the internet has become a handful of megastructure echochambers, because it means that kids growing up with it are much more likely to become rigid, deeply entrenched in their views (however flawed they may be), and extremely hostile to critical thought and criticism.
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>>59328286
>extremely hostile to critical thought and criticism
Much like most politics these days? Certainly.

Its getting harder and harder NOT to stay in your one small echochamber community. It's what you always see over time with humans. They tend to form groups and stay in those groups. People who venture between are often met with extreme hostility, leading to them either being completely ostracized from everywhere or eventually saying "fuck this, I'm making my own group with blackjack and hookers". Its a bit easier to go from place to place on parts of the internet, as an identity swap is only a username and avatar change away, but it is still going the way of the rest of human society.
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But the modern web has Blacked.com

Need I say more?
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>>59327301
Youtube actually started out as a dating site
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>>59328286
>>59328286
A good analogy is thinking of the early (90s and 2000s) internet as the colonization of america/The wild west.

With little to no control, government or structure, but over time communities grew, and small scattered villages and populations turned into big cities and metropolitan areas.

I'm pulling this out of my ass pretty much but i'm fairly sure that if you looked for a chart similar to >>59324053 but relating to the distribution of population trough history, you'd see a very similar trend.
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>>59328436
lolwut
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>>59326119
Older Millennial here.

Right now you in fuck it mode. I graduated literally right when the recession hit. And it hit bad. Like, you were 13, you have no idea because if you did it would have put the fear of god into your about your future and you would have finished High School.

A lot of my friends ended up in fuck it mode. And it was understandable back then. They dicked around, doing odd jobs for money to buy computer parts, consoles and games and spent about 3 years jerking off in their parents basement. And nobody blamed them, because getting a job at wal-mart was a feat, it could take 6 months of looking just to get a cashier job at a gas station.

I busted my ass doing construction work some how. Saved money and started school in 2012 at 21. It's been rough, had to take a year off, because money but I'm about to graduate and move onto a masters program.

Meanwhile all those friends that fucked around are just starting school, or looking for work. At 25-26. They're going to enter the workforce fully at best at 29.

My point is, get out of fuck it mode right the fuck now. You are wasting so much time, time that you will not be able to make up later. Get you GED. Look into technical school. Or an apprenticeship. You apprentice with an electrician for 3 years and you're fucking set for life at 25 bucks an hour with a 3 day weekend every week.

You don't have to go to college to be successful. But you gotta do something bitch.
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>>59325557
You waste your life by being alive. Life is meaningless. Haven't you lost at least 3-4 family members? You'd know.
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>>59323576
I was going to tell you to fuck off, but you're kind of right. /pol/ itself is paying the price for actually trying to have an effect irl, but I'm confident that the normies will be assimilated in time (or fuck off). It's happened before, it'll happen again.
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>>59324597
People used to write "nigger" in the captcha so it would appear in books Google scanned.
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>>59329356
I still do that sometimes. It works too.
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>>59327865
Who's that guy?

Reading trough his shit is like opening a time capsule.
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i remember. now there is nothing to do but trigger newfags and commies.
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>>59324485
30.
My parents had a connection at home since 1997. At first we had some hacked together thing where there was a separate computer running some linux distro in our balcony acting as a router/switch. It was connected to a bi directional antenna on the roof, and it served 5 people in the building. Speeds were atrocious.
A bit later they ditched the antenna and connected everything using ethernet cables. Better speeds, you could talk to people from all over town using Vypress Chat since it was all basically a huge lan. ISP even provided a server full of pirated goodies.
Then in 2004 or 2005 we got FTTH. Shame I moved out soon afterwards, and had to use DSL for a while again.
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>>59324277

LOL

Can the 19 year old's please leave? Another comment that will be looked upon with cringe inducing awkwardness when this guy turns 25.
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>read thread
mostly >>>/pol/
mostly kids
newfag engagement
usenet autism worship, that shit was autism
nostalgia kids, it hits like chris chan
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>>59324827
You can still do that. Nobody is forcing you go to on facebook. Wtf are you complaing about?
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>>59323576
>unironically being a normiekun millennial
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Remember when is the lowest form of conversation.
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>mfw im 18 and never experienced pre-2010 internet

keep circle jerking grandpas
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>>59328170
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>>59323576
>reddit
2005
>buzzfeed
2007 or so
>tumblr
2007
>4shit
2003
>9gag
2008 i think
>facebook
2004

By that I mean by 2005 or so it was already trash. And before that there were services just as bad. Internet was good before www.
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>>59323576
I remember when mods banned shitposters and this was all fields.
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>>59330340
Grats on being poor
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>>59324590
Born in 89 here. First time I remember having internet was 96~97.

We had a 28.8k modem which we upgraded to a 56k modem in 98.

Anyway, 90~05 was probably the best time of the internet. Not sure how much went on in the early 90s but it was probably a lot better than what went on in the late 2000s.
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>>59324053
>By 2007 the Internet was a shitshow

It had life in it still. 2011 or so is when it was basically all over.

The worst thing to happen to the internet was a lower barrier to entry. Once people just had to waggle their phone to post on FB it was just too easy to shit it up.

And that's coming from someone who lives to shitpost.
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>>59324195
I actually kind of agree with this. Pre-2000 was like the 8-bit era of video games. It was great, and in many was classic, but very limited by its time. There was a small window from 2000-2002 or 2004 where the internet hit the 16-bit era with all the glory and capability that came with that.

Then social media came (32bit era) and shit everything up.
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>>59326583

>containment named /a/
>>not the other way around

here is >you
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>>59324053
>Microsoft 317mil

Wait what?
More people use Microsoft sites than Facebook's?


Do they use Bing/Windows Mail Live/MSN or OneDrive? Or does it count the shit that started popping up on Windows 8 and onwards as traffic?
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>>59327718
do you use runit as pid1
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>>59330583
Vidya was good well into the 7th gen, it was the over dependence on the internet and DLC that killed it.
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>>59330557
Same, I remember still thinking the internet was great in 2010.

I would count it as officially dead around 2011 or 2012 too, but I didn't noticed until around 2014 or 2015.
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I wonder what the CIA internet division was up to in those days.
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>>59330906
if its so shit then why the fuck are you using it?
typcial aspie
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>>59323576
oh wow this thread is like a line at the graveyard: oldfarts memeing about good old days on their last minutes before the heart attack.
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>>59331118
you are very bad at internet
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>>59326388
>tfw 22 and a virgin

I really need to get out there, but it always seems like more effort than it's worth
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>>59331011
Because the alternative is going outside.

Also I'm exaggerating, I still enjoy browsing this ocean of shit to try and find interesting and quality stuff. Or just to learn new things.
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>>59324827
>Back in the day, there was probably a bunch of guys so fucking enthusiastic about X that they had learned HTML and created their "best viewed in 800x600" sites devoted to X with fucktons of useful info and their only agenda was to share and exchange knowledge about X

T-this was me. I used Dreamweaver to learn HTML and then used notepad to write my website, then learning javascript and all. Remember using image mapping for links within an image? Good times. I had the silly hit counter and "best viewed with" gifs. This was in 1998...good times.
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>>59331011
Suppose I come shit in your front yard every day.
You gonna move out of the country?
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it lives on the darknet fgt.
lrn2 ipfs zeronet tor i2p
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>>59327865
>we wuz kings
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>>59324733
Thanks to generation X self steem pampering. Dont forget that.
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>>59323834
>the intellectual level of 90's
*tips fedora*
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>>59323576

>Internet: 1999-2001
>Had my own virtual pet
>Had my first email account
>Download free shitty games/viruses

>2002-2006
>Discovering content created animations, videogames: Newgrounds, Armored games, Miniclip
>Also discovering IMDB

2007-2012
>Got pretty monotone, discovered Youtube, Facebook, Reddit later 4chan
>Experience still fresh, they seem like useful stuff
>2013-Today
>Everything is shit, I visit the same site over and over, forgetting the old ones.
>Youtube became shit
>Discovered Reddit hivemind was always shit
>Facebook is shit

I miss discovering the Internet.
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>>59331412
>>59331498
sure is nu/pol/ in here
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>>59331521
My Tamagotchi is still alive.
This was a triumph.
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>>59331538
In my Country we had Camel. It was like a social network, where you could feed your camel to gain experience
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>>59331339
No, I kill you for trespassing.

.t texan
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>>59331265
>Remember using image mapping for links within an image?
Sure I do. Also: exchanging banners with other sites as the primary way of getting traffic. Also: fucking guestbooks. People would actually go through the trouble of letting you know they appreciate your site without posting a link to "Buy Viagra Online".
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>>59331521
You implying 4chan is not shit?
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>>59331549
Says the guy with the leaky border.
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>>59331578
4chan is shit, but at least it doesn't have a himemind like Reddit does. You can easily have a good conversation (or argument) with someone if you don't act like an asshat. And you ignore the bait posts
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>>59331602
Unfortunately I can't be everywhere
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>>59331521
> I visit the same site over and over, forgetting the old ones.

Same here. It's actually quite disgusting but most of the blogs and forums that I used to go on are either offline for good (thanks to the web archive I can at lest still see what the last days were like, usually depressing), or in archive mode.

Every so often I find a site that hasn't had a post in years, but is still up for some reason. Like their last post was in 2008 ("not that long ago" I think before remembering it's 2017 not 2010) saying they'll be back soon and they never were. God knows why the site is even still up. Who's paying for its hosting?

There are also the forums where the most recent posts go something like this:
>2011: Does anyone still come here?
>2009: Anyone else remember this place?

About the only web page that's still up that I visit is ff7citidel.
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>>59331578
nothing but quality since day one, my man
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>>59331498
Nah, there were some really smart fucking people there. Partially because all Usenet servers back in the day (in my country at least) were located at universities (which was an amazing value in itself when you think about it: Usenet was this distributed network that wasn't really "owned" by anyone and therefore truly free as in freedom), and partially thanks to my carefully crafted plonk/score files that filtered all idiots away.
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>>59331632
Meant to say
>About the only web page that's still up that I visit from back then is ff7citidel.
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I got online in 1997 or 1998 and used BBS' for a while before that. Social mediafication is probably the worst thing to have happened to the web and has bad effects on society and the psyche.

>>59331603
Hiveminds are everywhere, not acting like an asshat only works if other people do the same (they don't), and bait only means "a post that I don't like." I never bait but I am constantly accused of doing so... probably because I'm failing to hold the popular and accepted opinions.
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>>59331661
Alright, I give you that Hiveminds are everywhere, but its much easier to ignore unlike Reddit where Hiveminds upvote the post they like, while downvoting everything else
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>>59331658
I tend to visit Newgrounds time to time because I saw some good shit... Its so sad seeing the profiles last updates were 2010-2011

>tfw no more Pico
>Matrix Has You
>Chaos Faction
>XY is Awesome
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>>59331690
dagobah.net/flash/know_your_destiny.swf
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>>59331690
The worst part is that a lot of these people still make things, but it's all gone onto centralised mega-sites.

I watched the BBS Documentary again the other day, and I totally see where they were coming from when they lamented the end of the BBS. I feel the same with the old wild web.
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>>59324861
So an hero to all /g/entlemen, right?
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>>59324861
Nobody's all bad.
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>>59325365
take a year off and figure your shit out. cut the internet through out, it'll only screw up any attempt at focused thinking
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>>59332057
I think we should all do this. I'm really getting the feeling from the net now that there is, almost literally, nothing here for us.

http://www.internetisshit.org/print.html
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>>59332488
I do this for a few months every so often.
Know what happens? Newfriends call me a newfag for having missed some recent forced cliche.
Every damn time.
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>>59325210
You don't celebrate birthdays anymore. Your perception of time changes. Before that, you just counted passing years to figure out how far you've went, after that you count down how many years remain. You make lists about all the things you want to do, and you figure out there's no way you'll be able to do all of that in a lifetime. You used to have time, now you're in a hurry, scared you won't be able to do all those things in time.

You look behind you and wonder where your childhood has gone. You look forward and you wonder why you haven't seen adulthood come. You expected some grand revelation, some kind of trigger that tells you "you're an adult now". And it'll never come. You only figure out that since you're not a kid anymore, you must be an adult, but nothing has changed, and everything around you is still confusing. There's no spiritual quest, no breadcrumb trail to follow, there's only you pushed into a structural void, unleashed in the vast world without the slightest instruction manual.

You start to have adult opinions, and one day you may end up disagreeing with people you hold dear. Like your mom. This will hurt you like few other things. Disagreeing with people you love and seeing them watch you, unable to understand you, is pure suffering.

You'll try to find ties to your past. There's an African saying, if you want to know where to go, look where you come from. You turn to genealogy, you visit your parents more often, later cemetaries, you read history books wondering where your bloodline fits. Once again, searching for a purpose. And it just won't come.

Your doctor tells you you should look after yourself more. You're not sick, but you're on the brink of it. You're lost in this world, your habits are all you have, and that man tells you to change them.

It really fucking sucks. And people that will tell you it's fine are either not mature enough, or they delude themselves.
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>>59332709
>being this worried about achievements
>not embracing the sweet release of a rapidly-approaching death
I'm not so sure you're on the right site.

A couple of side notes:

Maybe always looking to the past for a future is why Africans never progress. Of course it could just be their inferiority.

If your habits are shit, maybe you should change them. Don't be such an African.
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>>59332966
>I'm not so sure you're on the right site.
I am exactly in the right place, because few people really realize that.

>Maybe always looking to the past for a future is why Africans never progress. Of course it could just be their inferiority.
Maybe. To me that's the only thing that's worth salvaging from Africa, along with bananas.

>If your habits are shit, maybe you should change them. Don't be such an African.
Habits like staying up late, hiking, or enjoying a glass of wine once in a while? Those habits are the reason I live, but the first one fucks up my immunitarian system, the second one hurts my knees, the third one hurts my pancreas. Either I give up on all that and can live healthily ever after, or I stick to them and I live somewhat happily for a few years. Tough choice.
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>>59333215
> few people really realize that
It seems to me that some people would benefit from realizing that 99.99999999% of us will be forgotten by the entire world within 50 years of our deaths.
After that, we're a box of bones and a weathered headstone on a grave that no one visits on a planet that revolves around a star that is doomed to one day burn out. Forever.

Besides, all that stress is bad for your health.
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>>59323576
Internet was better when I didn't have access to it at all tbqh.

Digging around obscure software/games/emulators/flash/etc from CDs was a comfy feeling I can never have again.

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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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