/hpg/ - Headphone General

Can anyone recommend me good pair of 30 or 40 dollar earbuds?

>>59313664
Vsonic GR02 Bass Edition
Xiaomi Piston 3/Hybrids
Tennmak Pro
Carbon Tenore
Soundmagic E10C
Soundmagic E30

>Budget about 50$
>Location Poland, Europe
>Source
>Type of headphone Wireless over ear/ on ear
>Open or closed open
>Comfort level high
>Sound signature idk??
>Past headphones some shitty phone wallpaper

>>59314023
Which of these are the most neutral?

>>59314066
Either GR02 or E30's though I'm not very knowledgable with neutral IEM's. I've heard the Etymotic MK5 is a nice neutral IEM though it's $60 USD

are these worth it?

http://ddaudio.com/products/lifestyle/lifestyle_gear/dxb-04-ear-wood-headphones/

>>59314059
Ah forgot to say that they must be wireless bluetooth for my phone

>>59314117
>$50
>Bluetooth
You're not getting anything with good sound. Grab a decent pair of headphones with a detachable wire and bluetooth reciever to call it a day.

FiiO E10K or SMSL M3 to drive AKG K712?

>>59313638
>telegram
why, its fuckin awful to use
discord would have at least been kinda usable
irc is best

>>59314241
E10k since its the less worse chinkshit
also more powerful somehow

You told me Sennheiser is the shit so I bought hd 205 and after 4 months of using it started to crackle in my ear, especially if I tilt head.

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>>59314059
I'm really happy with my Bluedio R's, non SD card slot version.

They are really comfy and have great sound. They are kind of unique as they have 3 small drivers + a bass driver instead of one big driver for each ear.

Bluedio R comes in an older version with a SD card slot and are Bluetooth 3. I have the non-SD card version which has the CSR8645 chip (probably why there is no SD card slot, it doesn't support it). This version supports Bluetooth 4 and apt-X and AAC (better sound) and it also does USB Audio (shows up as a USB sound card when you connect it to a phone or computer using USB).

So I bought a dac in place of my motherboard audio

I thought I wouldn't, but I can notice a significant difference in quality.

>>59315911
A dac+amp?

>>59312163
We tend to be able to sense below 20 Hz but our upper range is limited and 20 KHz is a generous estimate. 20-20000 Hz is a decent rough bandwidth.

By age our hearing sensitivity and extension drops. I'm 25 and can hear somewhere around 18 KHz fine but nothing above this point. With music the very highest frequencies are of little use even if you can hear them individually as they are generally masked away by content in lower, more sensitive range of hearing.

High Resolution Audio bears no audible benefit due to the format itself. The only thing which could remotely be of use would be the possibility to use low pass filters in the DA-converter which would lie outside of the audible band while safely cutting the bands before Nyquist.

Why bother with Hi-Res? The only sensible reason that comes to mind is if music you like is only released in that format or if a specific master of a song is only available in it.

>>59315911
The question of being better isn't always a relative one. Not all electronics are made equal, your hearing is a bad way to tell unless the problem is very obvious.

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>>59316243
Yeah

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Are these good for the price?

>>59314093
well, they will make you feel invincible..

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>>59316368
HD600 masterrace :)

Nice Magni.

Didn't know the dac. Interesting device.
http://motu.com/products/proaudio/ultralite-mk4

>Budget
30-50€

>Location
Germany

>Source
Computer; Windows

>Type of headphone
full-sized

>Open or closed
closed

>Comfort level
comfort < quality

>Sound signature
don't care

>Past headphones
idk but Amazon says they're Thermaltake HT-CRO008ECBL Cronos
[ https://www.amazon.com/eSPORTS-Cronos-Gaming-Headset-HT-CRO008ECBL/dp/B00E38BPJ0/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1489067519&sr=1-1&keywords=thermaltake+headset ]

>>59316658
I bought it because it uses a web page for editing, kind of like a router.

I haven't got it to work with linux yet which kinda bums me out

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I know people here don't tend to recommend noise cancellation over noise isolation, but which one would be the best solution to cut the noise of my neighbor at my office?

He's a mouth breather (the kind that snores as he breath and have a deeply nasal voice) and tend to make mastication noise as he eats snacks.

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>anime op

>>59317083
It's apparently standard USB audio, so it should just work with Linux's support.

I use that with my modi2u, and it's fine.

>>59315911
>>59315911
So I bought $1000 cables in place of stock ones.
I thought I wouldn't, but I can notice a significant difference in quality.

>>59317720
facedesk.

Motherboards having poorly isolated DACs where you can hear graphics or disk i/o is not that uncommon.

>>59317774
Sure but what was the problem here? Or the difference?

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>>59317665
Here's some more.

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Anyone has Vsonic VSD3/VSD3S? Should I buy?

>>59317774
>Motherboards having poorly isolated DACs where you can hear graphics or disk i/o is not that uncommon.

This hasn't been the case except for perhaps the cheapest motherboards(?) for years and years.

I do remember this from back in the days when I had a AMD Athlon CPU.

>>59317984
>Sure but what was the problem here?
Back in the day.. it really did make the motherboards sound card worthless. If you're listening to music and you copy some big file from one drive to another and noise from that is audible then you're going to get annoyed.

These days this is a non-issue. Most motherboards are well isolated, but some more than others. And cheap motherboard DACs that are standard, like Realtek 1150, are very good.

Too many motherboards are lacking in the AMP department, so getting an external AMP for a pair of headphones makes sense. If your receiver / stereo can't drive your headphones then it's extremely unlikely that your motherboard can.

All this is becoming a bit irrelevant, though. I connect my Bluedio R's with either bluetooth or USB and I'm guessing that will be the norm not too far into the future.

>>59318308

I'm waiting for some snake oil sales man to twig on that idiots will buy a "bluetooth amp" without realising it's gonna do basically nothing.

My computer isn't that old but plugging it in directly sounds worse than my iPod.

I don't know if you can say DACs don't work if you never actually tried it. You can be skeptical all you want but to claim you know when you cannot possibly know is a bit arrogant.

>>59313638
I have just switched MY Sony MDR7506 velour pads for leather pads and I noticed an improved sound isolation from the get go.
Are the standard velour pad really bad or am I being memed?

Hello /hpg/

Can you recommend me a good set of bass biased, closed back around-the-ear, corded (no wireless) passive noise cancelling headphones. They should be super comfy and portable (capable of folding not necessarily small I understand how big around the ear phones can be.) Biggest importance is the noise cancelling factor, no batteries, and comfort. Going to be wearing these for hours a day every day.

Open to earbuds too if they cancel well or better than a comparable around ear.

Budget for headphones is around 300 budget for earbuds is 100 or lower.

Are Beyer Dynamic DT880 at 32 ohms /g/ approved?

>>59319405
Shure 215. People say the isolation is amazing with a bass heavy sound signature

>>59319450
>32 ohms
Do not do this to yourself
Most modern phones can drive the 250 ohms

>>59319166
>I noticed more isolation when I switched from pads that allow air to move more freely to pads that restrict airflow
Whoa, you don't say.

Glad I asked. I think I'll go for the 250.

>>59319567
>Most modern phones can drive the 250 ohms

what

how shit is my phone if it can barely drive my 32 ohm Meze's? in fact, even for earbuds I have to crank the volume to max to get it loud

>>59319450
>/g/ approved
Come again? It's a more sensitive DT880. Good for low powered sources.

>>59319880
Reconsider. Why take the lower sensitivity option?

>>59319567
>>59319934
Driving "ohms" isn't a thing. You don't need to know your headphone's impedance so just ignore it.

>in fact, even for earbuds I have to crank the volume to max to get it loud
Truly sounds like a very weak source. What phone?

>>59320329
>What phone?
Xperia Z5 Compact, but it was the case with my iPhone 5 and 5s as well

>>59320424
>Z5 Compact
I have the same one as work phone. Rough estimate 0.5 Vrms on the output so it's on the lower side even for mobile phones. Certainly wasn't enough for ER-4S.

>>59319553
Thanks they look good, any alternatives? Like to do a bit of comparison. Is Etymotic any good? I have a pair of plugs from them and see they make higher end buds too.

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>>59320508
Not a single downright bassy Etymotic available but they are extremely good in-ears if you ask me. Highest isolation and more or less neutral sound. The ER-4XR is the only one with some bass boost, pic related.

give it to me straight, /hpg/. do DACs matter?

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>>59320508
>>59320620
Here is the SE215 for comparison. It's extremely bassy.

>>59320636
Like all gear before the headphones, not at all past a certain point. It's a solved problem in audio reproduction. The reason for getting a better DAC rarely lies in upgrading its audio performance.

>>59320704
>The reason for getting a better DAC rarely lies in upgrading its audio performance.

I don't get this, isn't that what they're supposed to be for? I've seen people talk about instrument separation as a big thing with DACs, for example

>>59320329
By driving "the 250 ohms" I was implying "the 250 ohm dt880s".
Even the old ass galaxy note 2 could get them to 80% of what I consider maximum listening volume.

so my k612 broke (again). what should i replace them with
are the k712 better quality?

>>59320855
>isn't that what they're supposed to be for?
Can be. The point of a DAC lies in the name. In audio it's a necessary device to play back any digital files. Aside from doing its job we want them to perform well, too.

It's an easy goal to achieve, has been for quite some time when we only have to worry about the audio band. A dollar or two gives you a chip capable of achieving transparency while doing much more than simple stereo DA-conversion. Building a device around that chip adds to the cost but this truly is an affordable piece of gear regardless.

I often wonder where did this audiophile dogma originate from where DA-converter is seen as some sort of key element in your signal path or device chain as far as audio quality is concerned. It's such a non-issue and something you just forget performance wise once you get a working one.

Aside from the sake of delusions why would you buy a discrete device that does DA-conversion? The most common reason would probably be to overcome the limitations of the device currently operating as a DAC. Basic things like I/O options or features are a pretty obvious selling point. Sometimes electronics, especially those with embedded audio circuitry(motherboards, mobile phones), can have problems with interference. By getting another device to handle the audio signals only you often bypass the problems. Perhaps someone wants just a peace of mind that they will never have to worry about incompetent devices in the future? Or a device to add to the listening room's audio altar? Respect in /bst/?

>I've seen people talk about instrument separation as a big thing with DACs, for example
That's the kind of nonsense that goes around in audiophile circles. Nothing a DAC does alters the mechanisms by which we locate sound.

>>59321137
That's a very subjective target.

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Are these decent for 5$ or should I invest some more for proper PC headphones?

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Beyer DT770 Pro 80Ohm. Yes or No?
Coming from AKG K550, I like them but they are a bit too flat/neutral. I like the "bathtub sound".

>>59321794
Yes

>>59321794
Hard to say how the K550s perform on your head. They should have quite strong bass if they seal well but quite often they don't leading them to sound anemic. DT770s kind of do what they try to do but much more consistently. If you like their kind of V-shape, they are great headphones.

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Some /a/non was saying that we can only hear from 20hz to 20khz.
So why even bother with hi-res music.
Is hi-res music just a meme to milk more shekels?

>>59321988
Answered >>59316247

Additionally, read https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

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My Go-To for 10 years has been the DT-770, 80 ohm, and I've bought scads of others to try and beat them. Recently I took this articles' suggestion and tried a Sennheiser HD 600 - remarkable sound, and almost a champ against 'ol reliable, but they're open back and let in noise. THE BEST portable headphones for sport use, IMO, are ancient Sony MDR-A35's, NOT THEIR REPLACEMENT the MDR-A35G, which Sony should be ashamed of. THE BEST SOUNDING PORTABLE HEADPHONES (not for sport use) are ATH-M50x. OldFag here, been jammin' Cans for years, you lucky fukkers are living in the best time ever for audio. Check out this guys opinions, too: http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared#user_JH13

>>59322026

I got my 598se today and anime songs sound like shit on it but stuff like classical is nice. I was meemed.

What headphone under $200 is good for anime music. And no opened back please I don't want my mom hearing the screams of a 14 year old cartoon girl being penetrated by a nasa rocket.

>>59321868
Yeah, they have sealing issues on my big fucking head. This is kind of annoying because they sound different depending on how I lean my head forward or backwards. I nearly alway put on an equalizer to get more of a V-shaped sound. I really like the comfort these cans offer. No problem wearing them for hours.
Thx for your opinion.

>>59321241
ok whatever, i'll just get the k712

>>59322098
If you like how those sound on their best, DT770 might be a great choice to replace them.

>>59322089
did not mean to quote

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>>59316247
You Obviously own nothing Hi-Res, please keep your misinformed opinions to yourself. Aside from the 130 dB noise floor, lack of quanitization artifacts, and superior channel separation, Hi-Res media, generally, has been remixed from masters to avoid CD's downfalls. When you get the opportunity to listen, in-depth, to SACD or even TIDAL, and can A/B it with CD or (God Forbid!) Vinyl, you'll appreciate just how Good the times are!

>>59322104
The only downside is they're gonna make you regret ever getting the 612s in the first place.

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>>59322125
i can live with that

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Is the chinese stuff good?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014FCNXLQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2ETWV1LQ3OLKC

>>59322120
PS - the biggest issue I have w/the HD 600s is that the phones were $250. The balanced cable to connect them to 4-pin XLR was F'n $300!!!

>>59322260
>buying a $300 cable

Are there any that use metal? Or at the very least reinforces their plastic with a rigid mesh or something? I'm sick and tired of having earpieces break off because they're attached to the headband via plastic.

Preferably closed and under $150, but it wouldn't surprise me if that doesn't exist.

>>59322120
>that class a monstrosity
HISSSSSS

Too bad as it looks so good.

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Is the Aune X1S good? any owners here?

Can anyone recommend me the me to the best headphones around 100 to 150? I can go up to 200 if the 50 bucks is worth it.

I currently have a kingston hyperx cloud 2 gayaiming headphones so I am looking for something that is a step up from that.

>>59322458
DT 770 80 Ohm are pretty much a direct upgrade from clouds

>>59322458
Audio-Technica ATH-M40x, will sound a lot better than the clouds or Philips SHP9500 if you want to try something different.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HVLUR54/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_11?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A9VBWN1Q1U6E6

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ENMK1DW/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_38?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3FQYQYKQGS7LP

>>59321241
>>59322186
How'd the K612 break?

>>59322665
cable broke

ATH IM50 or Sennheiser momentum 2 IEG any good? Need to upgrade from E10s, shit cable jacket ripped.

>>59322693
You are aware that you can easily repair your K612, correct? Even if the cable is totally destroyed, a 4-conductor cable is only a few bucks.

(Unless, that is, you're actully using your broken K612 as a reason/means to upgrade)

>>59323070
the k612 only has 3 conductors, and i see no visible damage on them, so i'm not sure what's broken. don't know where to find a cable that'll fit either

>>59314066
E30's, but they fit like shit with provided tips.

>>59322693
Then fix the cable, lol

Currently have a philips fidelio L2. Thinking of getting a fidelio X2 as an upgrade. Are they different enough to warrant a purchase or no?

>>59323305
ok i'll try to fix it, i've no idea what i'm doing though

>>59323375
Twist the wires together and then wrap it with a tiny bit of electrical tape. Then twist the shield wires around the electrical tape andthen wrap it with more electrical tape

Whenever I play vidya, I tend to hear a light buzzing in the background through my headphones. It occurs when I'm plugged into my tower, but goes away when I'm connected to my monitor instead. I've read that it might have something to do with my gpu and psu causing the disturbance during gameplay, something about contaminated grounds.

My question is if I was to buy a cheap $5 usb sound card with headphone+mic jacks, would that also get rid of the interference as if I was plugging into my monitor?

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Oh man, what could it be?

>>59323937
>massdrop

>>59323937
didn't know massdrop sold dildos

>>59323937
Consumerist Bullshit?

>>59323937
Knowing massdrops shipping, probably something that was being sold 4 months ago

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>>59323962
>massdrop doing bad dragon group buys and one offs
What a time to be alive.

Let's take a peek.

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>>59323981
Lol not on this drop but on other when I've complained about shitty shipping logistics and shitty "discounts" compared to say, amazon prime, people just attack me.

do you even get to return shit you bought from massdrop?

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>>59324040
I've only bought a few things from them and never had to return anything so honestly I'm not sure.

>>59323549
i have no idea what you just said

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Ayyy, those bumps....

Holy shit this thing weighs like nothing.

>>59322089
What amp and/or dac are you running it through? It's probably a problem with your setup, not the headphones. Or the music you're listening to is just in shit quality, that you never realized before

>no opened back please I don't want my mom hearing the screams of a 14 year old cartoon girl being penetrated by a nasa rocket.

She won't, unless she's in the same room as you

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3 ft cable, hopefully it will straighten itself out and not be baked into that spiral forever. Pretty thick, material feels good.

>>59320855
Recently tried the MSR7 with my schiit stack after years using them just plugged into my laptop's 3.5. I have noticed greater separation and definition of sound. Some people may think otherwise, but that's just what i heard.

>>59322693
Sony MDR-1A fits your description pretty well but their isolation is kinda mediocre for closed because of big bass ports

>>59324209
>that right-angle connector
Hifiman why u do dis?

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>>59324305
When it's just a phone and headphones it's actually pretty compact and looks good. I don't know how I feel about it for any other example though and honestly I would have preferred it straight. It just barely fits this case and a thicker case like on my 5x it wouldn't fit.

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could someone tell me what these cables do and why they're connected the way they are?
i've circled the cable i think is broken

akg k612

>>59324361
Well i got the 400i and it came with a short as fuck cable with a right angle connector. I got an HD700 cable (2.5m) which fits.

>>59324379
The headphone is wired in parallel white is most likely '-' and red/yellow '+'

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shanling up is on sale on amazon
buy this so you dont have to carry a DAP around

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>>59324437
What did they mean by this?

>>59324434
how come the negative ones are wired in parallel but the positive ones are separate? sorry i know nothing about electronics

>>59324489
3 conductor wire, left/right/ground
Ground gets jumped from left speaker to right

>Budget
looking to be under $200

>Location
USA

>Source
SMSL M3

I'm looking for a tube amp for my hd600's I had a bravo v2 with a mullard tube but looking to upgrade. Would a Little Dot 1+ be much of an upgrade or am I wasting my money?

Anyone have the Fidelio X2s? how are they without a DAC? Can they be used well without one, or is one necessary? Same goes for an Amp, and if i were to say, use the VModa boompro mic, would i be able to plug that into the amp/dac or no?

>>59320704
Thanks for recommendation. Got a pair of black SE215 on the way from Amazon now.

Gonna use it to drown out all the fucking people at work and try to actually get shit done. These should be more than adequate for Youtube-quality sound playing in the background at a reasonable level.

Why do all anime girls wear AKG?

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Bass boost enabled...

Honestly I like these most out of my others.

>>59324793
What cans are those?

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>>59324837

>>59324614
okay, i think i get it, thanks. looks like the ground wire for the right speaker is the one that's broken

>>59324867
How are you liking them with the bass port open?

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>>59325019
Before I took the stickers off the bass while clear and defined was as if it was in the background, where you had to actively listen for it leaving me wish it was a tad bit louder and more impactful. Now it's more boomy but not muddy, still clear, and has much more presence. Feels more like what should be there and was missing when the sticker was on. Simple meme explanation would be that old reaction image with the group of guys sitting quietly vs the same group of guys screaming and cheering.

Without actually a/b'ing everything I would describe these with the stickers on most like my Audio-Technica ATH-AD500x but there the ATs are a unwearable ill fitting mess of a design they are well fitting and comfortable with a detachable cable.

With the stickers off to me the sound like what I would want my Sennheiser HD518 to be like. Bassy but without any of the mud and dirt, and without that weird compression effect I notice.

These are my initial impressions.

Anyone here have active noise cancelling headphones? I'm wonder how much sound it blocks. For example if I clap my hands would it block that noise completely? This particular sound frequency is the noise im trying to block and I don't care about it blocking low pitch humming noise like airplanes.

Tldr: can a headphone like bose block the sound of clapping my hands.

>>59325525
>Tldr: can a headphone like bose block the sound of clapping my hands.
No.

>>59325550
Really? Fuck, what about normal talking from 3 feet away?

>>59324787
They don't. The previous thread I created featured a girl wearing Beats as the OP pic.

A lot of artists probably find AKG headphones more aesthetically pleasing, or they find them to fit the character's fashion style better than other headphones.

Or it could just be that the headphones that they draw on the characters are the same headphones that the artists themselves wear.

>>59325565
They only block out continuous sound like an airplane, not sudden ones.

>>59325661
And only continuous low frequencies.

>>59325565
Not very well that either.

I'm looking for a pair of earphones/earbuds to use with my Samsung S4 smartphone while it's in an arm-strap carrying case and I'm running/jogging.

Any recommendations for a cheap (<$30) product that will get me good enough sound quality to either listen to music or podcasts while I run?

Sound quality doesn't have to be great; I'm looking for comfort in an exercise setting, device sturdiness and a good value / low price.

Will be taking a look @ each of these >>59314023
in the meantime.

Is this garbage?
https://www.amazon.com/Headphones-Sweatproof-Earbuds-Earphones-Control/dp/B01L1ZI1X0/ref=sr_1_1?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1489107840&sr=1-1&keywords=earphones&refinements=p_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A2266980011

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holy shit, $450 for fucking IEMs. How hard am I being meme'd here?

>>59325737
you could always do the current MD lottery.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/vsonic-grab-bag

>>59325790
then go buy some of the cheap audio technica "IEM'S" you gotta pay for quality lmao

>>59325810
>https://www.massdrop.com/buy/vsonic-grab-bag
I can't see the details of the offer without registering & making an account, can you summarize please?

Anyone have the Fidelio X2s? how are they without a DAC? Can they be used well without one, or is one necessary? Same goes for an Amp, and if i were to say, use the VModa boompro mic, would i be able to plug that into the amp/dac or no?

>>59326122
You should be able to see it with this link.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/vsonic-grab-bag?utm_source=linkshare

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>>59326145

I was going to make an account but I read some of their privacy policy and it's ambiguous and shady as fuck.

>>59326169
>>59326145
>>59326122
>>59325810
gonna go with these
https://www.amazon.com/Kingstar-Headphones-S5-Cancelling-Microphone/dp/B018U8WFR4/ref=sr_1_18?s=aht&rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1489110254&sr=1-18&keywords=earphones&refinements=p_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A2266980011%2Cp_85%3A2470955011%2Cp_72%3A1248879011&th=1

>>59326141
>Anyone have the Fidelio X2s?
yes

>how are they without a DAC? Can they be used well without one, or is one necessary? Same goes for an amp,
All digital devices that output audio to a speaker or a headphone jack already have a built-in/internal dac and amp. They work well without an external dac/amp, though if you hear things like noise, humming, etc, from your source (phone, computer), I'd recommend you look into an external dac/amp.

>and if i were to say, use the VModa boompro mic, would i be able to plug that into the amp/dac or no?
Afaik, you won't be able to plug the mic into the dac/amp (well, you can, just the mic won't function), you'd need to use the splitter cable it comes with and plug the mic terminal into the computer (while the other terminal of the splitter is connected to the dac/amp). Though once you do this, you'll be sharing ground between the external dac/amp and your computer, so you may get interference.

Best solution would be to get something that doesn't run in-line, like a modmic, if you decide to get an external dac/amp and want a microphone that attaches to your headphones.

>>59323937
>massdrop
nice maymay

>>59326691
Alright, Thank You!

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>>59326738
Very nice meme.

>>59324787
Akiyama Mio?

>>59322120
>>59321687
Ah yes, SACD/DSD. Do you know the story behind this one?

>>59322089
>I got my 598se TODAY.

Highlighted keyword for you. If it's your first good headphones, it's going to take a week or two of listening to get used to them and start enjoying them.

> and anime songs sound like shit on it but stuff like classical is nice.

See above. What you're seeing with classical is just a hint of what you'll enjoy in the future, once you adjust your brain to the sound signature.

>I was meemed.

You got a really good pair of headphones for the money.

>>59326691
>All digital devices that output audio to a speaker or a headphone jack already have a built-in/internal dac and amp

just because they can doesn't mean they do it well

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http://www.noiseaddicts.com/2009/03/can-you-hear-this-hearing-test/

Can anyone else hear up to 22,000Hz like I can? I'm 25, I wasn't expecting I'd be able to

So much for the "you can't even hear 16kHz" meme

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>>59313638

>>59327721
shit I can only hear up to 18,000Hz

>>59327155
Well, if you read on, I did list some of the things one can experience with onboard audio/an internal dac/amp.

>>59327901
Even low impedance headphones (like the Philips SHP9500 or HD 598 Cs) that can be powered just by plugging it into a phone (or directly into the motherboard) will sound better plugged into a nice dac+amp

>>59328082
meme

>>59328082
What about a lg v20???

So I am looking for a good general set of head phones. I mostly listen to rock, metal and electric(trance, chill step, and melodic dubstep)

What would be the best for that?

I am leaning towards ATH-M50x, HD 598 or DT 770.

I am trying to keep it under 150 but as you can see I am a little over that atm. What you /hpg/ recommend?

>>59325790
Bruh
Search audio kaiser 10
$450 isn't shit

>>59328154
I would go with 770 if i were you. I haven't owned them so maybe others can elaborate.
But i have the M50X and comfort could be better. From what i hear the DT770 is much more comfortable.

>>59328121
I don't know much about phones, but it might benefit from an amp since it already has a nice enough DAC for portable use

>>59328222
I have one and it powers dt 700 250ohm at 45% and hd600's about the same maybe 50%

>>59328234
I'm sure it sounds "good enough", smartphones like that do cost a heck of a lot of money after all. I still think those headphones would sound even better on a nice desktop dac+amp though.

But for portability, the convenience is there.

>>59328349
Agreed, Even though it powers them the dac/amp is a little dark for my tastes and I hate having to use eq. but the portability and size makes up for it.

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Some time ago you guys introduced me to these fuckers and I just wanted to thank you all because I'm very happy with them on my life.

>Budget
Sub $100 (Don't want to spend too much $ on this, already have m50xs. This new pair is just for going on the subway and to classes and stuff)
>Location
Oakland, California
>Source
Galaxy S7
>Type of headphone
On ear or over ear. Something portable. Tired of earbuds and the like.
>Open or closed
Closed. (The sr80es look nice but i'll be on the subway a ton and need something that will allow me to hear my music.)
>Comfort level
Decent. I just don't want them hurting my ears or head
>Sound signature
Neutral with a bit of bass. I have m50xs and stero monitors so I'm used to a neutral soundstage
>Past headphones
M50xs(had since 2015) which are perfect, xiomi piston 3s, symphonized nrg 3.0s, and some other shitty ones not worth mentioning

I just need something portable to take with me during the day and on the subway that doesn't sound too trash. Any help is appreciated.

>>59328521
>m50x
>neutral
Kek

Creative Aurvana Live

>>59328399
Great headphone, had mine for near 3 years

>>59322204
NFB-11 is better, but if you don't want to deal with the funky website and shipping the X1S is a good option.

>>59328521
>Neutral with a bit of bass. I have m50xs and stero monitors so I'm used to a neutral soundstage

You can't have a 'neutral soundstage'.
If you mean neutral sound signature, then M50x absolutely aren't that. They're significantly V-shaped. Not even fuckin close to neutral.

>>59328719
They're not fucking beats.

>>59328853
You're right, they're worse.
In terms of tonality, they almost are.

>>59328853
They may as well be, honestly.

>>59328853
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/BeatsSoloII2014.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudioTechnicaATHM50x.pdf

>>59313638
how is the Shure se215? I thought about getting it for my clip+

>>59329033
Bassy. Very bassy and dark. Great if you like that, not so much if you don't. Tennmak Pros are better imo, because they have more high end sparkle. Closer to a V-shape [and are like 3 times cheaper]

>>59329033
>>59329048
Oh and the MEE M6 Pro is also an option. Less bassy than those two, and a bit more highs/upper mid oriented than the 215.

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>>59328521
>m50's neutral

>>59327721
I'm 26, can hear up to 21k

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>>59326944
STFU, U Obviously don't own anything Hi-Res, or the ability to get it there.

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>>59326944

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Just got these in the mail. They sound amazing. A lot more bass than the K701s, but also of higher quality. Better mids too, but worse highs although less sibilant.
Is burn in a meme for planars or nah?

>>59329524
Burn is a meme always.

>>59314023
which of these would sound best for female vocals? I don't mind bright 'phones.

>>59329625
E30's unless you want something bright out the ass like JVC HAFX40's

>>59316571
amazing

Does hpg wear expensive headphones outdoors?

>Budget
<$50
>Location
leafland
>Source
Mobo integrated audio
>Type of headphone
Over ear, detachable cord
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Maximum comfy
>Sound signature
Dunno, mostly watch movies (not an audiophile)
>Past headphones
Sony MDR-NC200D: Sound is fine and I like the isolation, but they hurt my ears after a while. Looking for something more comfy to wear for long periods of time.

>>59327721
I can hear up to 17k at normal volumes, 18k if I turn the volume up a little.

>>59327721
I can hear all of them, but for 17hz and above i had to turn up the volume to max.

>>59329934
Modded M50x and UE TF10's

Probably expensive by normie standards
at least the IEMs

nothing remotely expensive by headphone autist standards

>>59329934
Define expensive

>>59327721
18 KHz and nothing above it.

>>59326944
>the story
No I don't. Care to share?

>>59329934
While I don't think of them as expensive, I suppose my Campfire Lyra II & Jupiter would qualify. I don't think I'd ever take expensive cans outside, though.

>>59325790
Probably hard given how terrible expensive IEMs tend to be. Shure KSE1500 is likely the most expensive universal fit model you can buy but it seems awful.

>Budget: 80$
>Location: USA, Midwest
>Source: Motherboard (Or DAC)
>Type of headphone: Full
>Closed
>Comfort level: Good
>Sound signature: Good
>Past headphones: Shitty gaymen headphone

New to these threads. Just need some help

>>59330598
>>Sound signature: Good
what

My headset just died, the left ear got fucked, it's the HyperX Cloud II gaymin headset. I liked it for it's sturdy build, the quality of the audio was lacking a little bit however, what would someone recommend as an upgrade?

>>59330966
DT770's.

>>59330980
Anything a little cheaper? Looking for something in the 100-180 AUD range.

>>59330993
Check second hand. Tons of 770's on gumtree for ~$150 dollarydoos.

>>59330993
Look at this:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/839584/beyerdynamic-dt880-black-chrome-edition
Comes to over your budget but look at the price. Ad posted 2 hours ago.

>>59331125
Thanks for the help, but I live in Australia, the ad says they only ship within the US

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>>59313638

>not making your own headphones out of plywood, paper and copper wire

fucking scrubs

>>59331040
I checked gumtree, but there are no ads for DT770's within 30km unfortunately.

>>59331135
Oh shit didn't see that. (I live in AUS too)

>>59313638

What headphones are the absolute pinnacle of price/ performance before diminishing returns comes into effect? Assuming someone is set up with an amp and all the goods already, I'd be expecting something 300-400 dollars.

>>59331159
Are any of these any good? I'm looking to maybe just stick with a HyperX Cloud II again, since I really liked the last one.

http://www.umart.com.au/newsite/category.php?category=147&display=grid&brand=0&price_min=100&price_max=180&filter=0&mystock=0&filter_attr=20564.0.0.0.0.20567.0&page=1&sort=salenum&order=DESC#goods_list

>>59331161
600/650

>>59331172

doesn't senn have dog shit build quality tho?

I suppose that doesn't effect sound quality

>>59331167
M40x is the best bet from that list.
going back to gumtree:
Just dm someone and ask if they can post
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/braddon/headphones-earphones/beyerdynamic-headphones-dt770/1140218760
if this guy can post the total cost will be well below 180

>>59331167
Also
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/headphone-DT-770-pro-80-ohm-/252796140047?hash=item3adbd2fa0f:g:7sIAAOSwhlZYuVME

>>59331189
They don't feel as tanky as X2's or Beyer DT's but as a result they're also far lighter and just as comfortable after you fix the clamp. As long as you toss your shit around like a child they should be fine.

>>59331226
>As long as you toss your shit around like a child they should be fine.
seems counter intutitive

>>59331245

>violence gives them strength

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>>59331245
>he doesn't prove his headphone's true worth through brute force

>>59313638
I can't decide between the Grado SR80e's or the Shure 440's. I'm using a Samson SR950 atm with modded pads for comparison.

In which case sound cancellation beats sound isolation?

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Is there a guide for Aussies?

Buying headphones in Australia is a gigantic pain in the ass

At least 5 different things have to be right at the same time with the same pair

And they HAVE to be bought in-store or your warranty and ability to return them if (i.e. when) they break

Anyway I'm currently using the Sennheiser 280 Pro (about $200) and the padding has ripped and speaker part is digging into my ear

>>59331553
I've bought 4 pairs of headphones online with no issues. You can just send them back if they fuck up.

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>>59331553

lmao youre right in saying buying headphones in Australia is a pain.

I got a set of DT 770 pros from storedj and the dickheads sent me the 250 ohms instead of the 80 ohms. It was straight forward contacting them and returning them, and they sent the correct set the same day I communicated the tracking number of the 250 ohms I didn't want.

>>59331189
>doesn't senn have dog shit build quality tho?

Like that other Anon said, the 600 and 650 are just very light weight, so you have to be gentle with them. However they're very comfortable to wear because of it. I can wear my 650s for hours at a time no problem, and they sound great.

If any parts ever do break for whatever reason, you can order replacements online.

>>59331553

I bought a pair of JVC HA-RX 700's about 7 years ago from the US, they took 3 months to arrive.

They lasted almost 7 years, one the cups ended up snapping off due to regularly (constantly) wearing them in radar mode and masturbating.

Should I go with the beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro or Sennheiser HD 558? I mostly play video games but my old headphone broken and I'm not going to buy gaming shit again.

>>59317414
good noise cancelation will tend to come with at least ok isolation. Isolation is better in this case though as its not a consistent background sound that its trying to drown out like say engine noise.

>>59332092
HD558, or HD598 if on sale.

DT770 are bass canons, otherwise shit.

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>>59314093
They produce top tier memes

>Budget
less than 100€
>Location
Europe
>Source
Smartphone over Bluetooth
>Type of headphone
Running-friendly IEM's

>>59332385
They are both on sale I think, the HD558 are 100€ and the DT770 are 130.

Hifiman RE-400 or Shure SE215 for 100€? Or Creative Aurvana In-Ear3 for 70€? Are there better options at this price range? Prefer neutral/natural sound.

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>>59330598
>sound signature: good
. . .

My HD598s are getting a bit tatty after three years of daily service. Was going to just replace them like for like but apparently HD599s now exist in the same price range. Is there any reason not to get those instead? Is there another set I should consider?

>>59330598
NVX XPT100

>>59332704
>Prefer neutral/natural sound.
Etys, check out MK5 and HF5. MK5 is neutral/bright, HF5 is neutral/dark.

RE-400 is dark and digustingly cheaply built, SE215 is very bassy, Auravana In-Ear I have no clue on.

>>59332830
If you're even looking at HD599, go HD600.

They cost almost the same, but they're a class better.

>>59332929
Do you own any of these earphones?

>>59333006
Yeah but it's a £30 step up and you can currently get HD650 for another £30 on top of that

So if I was looking for an upgrade I'd go straight to HD650, but I'm not really I'm just looking to replace what I have

Bit conflicted desu

>>59333125
>Yeah but it's a £30 step up and you can currently get HD650 for another £30 on top of that
>So if I was looking for an upgrade I'd go straight to HD650, but I'm not really I'm just looking to replace what I have

600 is better than the 650 imo. Not sure why you're viewing them as a direct upgrade.

>>59333144
Really? Could you describe why?
I'm not a /hpg/ regular and don't really know my shit, part of the reason I wasn't looking for an upgrade in the first place. I'd be spending money on something I don't really understand the value of.

>>59333125
HD 650 are like your HD 598, but that much better in every way. It's worth saving up for since your 598s are still in working order

>>59333104
None. Why?

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>>59333199
>Really?
Yes, higher number doesnt really equate to a better headphone. At HD600/650 tier it is all tonal preference.

>Could you describe why?
Highs arent as veiled on the 600, less warm, and less mid-bass. Upper mids are more throaty, which i prefer for female vocals. 650's are a lot more smooth, has a bit more bass. All down to preference.

Pic related. 598's are there as I assume that the 599's are essentially the same. Nobody has measured them because theyre stupidly overpriced atm.

>>59333227
Because I've heard positive feedback about re-400. I haven't listened either Shure of Hifimans, so I cannot say anything sure about sound. But, I have heard that both have good build and quality. Also looking their graphs at innerfidelity, both seem quite good.

>>59333306
>Because I've heard positive feedback about re-400
Not him, but the RE-400 has absolute aids build. People go through like 4 a year.

If you get a pair, you better know how to solder or re-house them.

>>59333306
>>59332929
Etymotics seem hard to get and are quite pricy here. RE-400 seems decent option but balanced armature would be nice of course. Shame good ones cost more than my budget can bend.

>>59333273
Looking at that >>59333207 is right that 650 is closer to 598 but there seem to be a lot of people who outright prefer the 600

Now I'm conflicted, maybe I'll just hold off with my tatty 598s until the 599s get a price drop

Thanks both

>>59333377
Honestly, just don't bother with the 599's. Knowing Sennheiser, theyre just a refresh and have very little sound improvement. Save up for a 600/650. Go try them in a store if you can. If not, just get the cheaper one. Their differences are quite small and you won't really know what you would rather until youve used both a fair bit. Both are great headphones either way.

>>59333125
HD650 is colored AF.

HD600 is neutral.

Whatever you prefer. Most reviewers prefer HD600.

Don't get confused by number schemes. Higher doesn't imply better, just different.

>>59333407
It's not so much a case of saving up as a case of feeling like I've spent x amount more money on something I won't understand the value of, as I said I don't really know my shit. I guess I'll just trawl through some (((reviews))) and pick whichever one leaves the better impression

You've been very helpful, I appreciate it

>>59333306
Decent in-ear with bad build quality.

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>>59333432
The difference between the two are very small. HD 600 is not neutral but definitely more so than the HD 650 which is simply a warmer sounding HD 600.

>>59333561
Well, they DO use the same drivers.

The targets are just different.

>>59333377
>650 is closer to 598 but there seem to be a lot of people who outright prefer the 600

It comes down to personal preference. I personally love the sound of my HD 650s. They're a pleasure to listen to for long periods of time. The HD 600 just have a narrower sound stage and more neutral sound signature; there really isn't that big of a difference between the two.

I wouldn't recommend the 599. Seriously, just save up a bit more money instead. It's worth it. There was a time when I was skeptical like you, but once I fell for the HD 650 meme I knew I was glad I did.

>>59330503
SACD is a dual layer disc, one layer like Redbook CD, and the second layer that contains audio stored by DSD (Direct Stream Digital). DSD layer is stored with 1-bit at 64x the sample rate of Redbook, DSD64.

SACD and DSD are closely related to the development of D/A conversion from the 1980's to the early 2000's.
When Sony/Philips introduced the CD in 1982, Philips didn't have any 16-bit audio converters (which is why Philips proposed the CD should operate at 14 bits per sample). Philips had already taped out the designs for the 14-bit D/A converters, but desperately needed a player ready to launch with the new Compact Disc. Their fix was to oversample the audio several times over, and use a feedback loop to manipulate the 14-bit quantization "noise" and push it into higher frequencies than the audioband.
This was one of the the earlier implementations of the ideas behind delta-sigma conversion in a real product. Philips eventually released a more conventional R-2R converter, one that didn't need more digital complexity, filtering, and oversampling. At this point, the interest in delta-sigma had taken off, as the necessary processing hardware was on a steady march to decrease in price and power draw. Oversampling R-2R (and derived designs) and 1-bit delta-sigma made its way into the general audio market around the late 80's.

The analog complexity and cost involved with a 1-bit converter are kept to a minimum, so it didn't take very long for this to displace R-2R and variations of in audio. No more worrying about glitching or monotonicity*. The 1-bit converter would have ideal performance here.

*Glitching refers to voltage spike that occurs when the converter switches one of the larger bit values. Monotonicity would be data with a higher quantized value always relating to a higher voltage output. Miniscule drifts in temperature or tolerances shift the resistances slightly, enough that the high tolerance required for even 16-bit operation can fall apart.

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/g/, meet my new girlfriend

>>59322125
you were right

>>59334323
meh-tier but if you like them, that's fine.

>>59334346
i know there's probably better for the price, but when you factor in comfort and design i couldn't ask for more. let's just hope they last

>>59322125
>>59334323
What's the soundstage like?
What are they like compared to the HD598

>>59313638
Hey, I'm in the US, I need a decent headset with a built in microphone to use at home to replace my shitty Logitech that broke. What I'd like is something sturdy first, then also if possible mic and audio quality. If they're super comfy, that's a bonus. My price range is $45 but I could probably pay more if they were worth it.

>>59335940
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00JJNQG98/ref=olp_f_new?ie=UTF8&f_new=true

these are your best bet at that price range, otherwise check out the Game One

Redpill me on PortaPros/KSC75's

>>59334000
DSD was a format developed by Sony Music some time into the 90's, for digitally archiving their master tape collection. They wanted a efficiently stored format that would be as future-proof as possible, one that can be simply filtered down into whatever rate they needed to.
As a music format, it is in essence 1-bit Δ-Σ audio data. As expected, unfiltered DSD64 noise ramps up sharply after 20kHz, but is kept very low below 20kHz. There's also a little audiophile appeal to it: DSD could simplify the 1-bit converter process, removing intermediary steps in conversion into PCM.

Sony's consumer divisions picked on DSD development for use with SACD, as an end user format. Partnered with Philips again around 1998 to develop the Super Audio CD, this time with working converters ready.
By this point, Δ-Σ conversion had started to move away from 1-bit to multiple bits - around 4-6 bits.

A little while after SACD hit the market, turn of the millennium, there was a back-and-forth between certain segments in AES vs.Sony/Philips on the technical issues relating to DSD, never mind the subjective part.
You can't perform any kind of signal processing on the 1-bit signal without intermediate lossy conversion, it's more difficult to dither, it has less stability with DC input, HF noise filtering and so on.

Most of the technical flaws of 1-bit audio converters and data can be improved on and its flaws softened, but never fully eliminated.
The really important one that can't be worked around is that 1-bit data cannot be touched at all without conversion. You can't mix with it directly, you can't equalize it, you can't even change the volume level in the digital domain.

>>59337007
Said to be one of the best price/performace ratio headphones. Also has an unlimited lifetime no questions asked warranty if I remember right. Generally warm sound signature I think.

>>59337007
Interested in this too actually. I nearly bought some a while ago but stopped myself. They look cool, but a piece of shit at the same time. Why do people rate them?

>>59333665

No, HD650 and HD600 use different drivers.

so which is the t50 mod to get? I've been curious about them for a while but it's not like I'm gonna find a pair to audition in a store, so might as well take the plunge and buy a pair

You guys like the m40x?

Looking for iem's in the $20-30 range.
Thinking I'll buy the Tenmark pro and kz ed9 and send the one I don't like back.

Anything else worth considering?

>>59338995
>>59314023
Here's a list to name a few

Hey lads, just got the DT 990 250 Ohm.
Would Fiio e11k do a good job in driving?

Can headsets be i this thread?
I need suggestions on a headset with a really excellent microphone.

>>59339152
SHP9500's + Vmoda BoomPro

>>59339237
Cool

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Are these any good for bluetooth headphones? I can get them for about $100, never tried bluetooth before.

Would I be able to detect the difference between flac and cbr 320 using a pair of m50x if I were to get them or a similarly priced set?

>>59339494
No

>>59339564
What if I took a shit load of acid and was below the age of 25?

My theory is that taking acid should open up the brain from filtering noise out and still being able to hear the upper range still will enable me to hear the upper range of a flac file that an mp3 cuts off.

I don't know if it is worth 140 dollars to test this theory out though.

>>59339494
No.
people that say that they spot a difference between 320 and lossless are bulshitting you

What was the seiyuu standard headphone again? Sony something.

>>59340008
MDR V6/7506

>>59340008
>>59340033
You might also be thinking of the CD900ST

>>59339045
How different are the xaomi hybrid from piston 3's?

>>59340403
Heavier V-Shape with a small bass port slit in the housing.

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Anything closed that sounds like HD800's? I love them but I live with other people and don't like them hearing what I'm listening to because I have autism, gonna have to sell them.

>Budget
Around 100 units of currency
>Location
EU
>Source
Phone, O2 amp
>Type of headphone
IEMs
>Sound signature
Neutral to Warm
>Past headphones
Hifiman HE-400, Sennheiser hd280

hows the sound of the Fidelio X2s compared to the K7XX or K612 or K612? Also comfort wise, which is the best?

>>59340703
Basically redpill me on those three.

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>>59339636
>will enable me to hear the upper range of a flac file that an mp3
A common misconception. While many lossy codecs do lower precision in high frequencies or low pass it out, ever checked how a loosely compressed mp3 file(such as 320 kbps CBR) looks like on a spectrogram? It extends beyond our limits of hearing, right to Nyquist. Not exactly ideal for a lossy codec as it's a waste of bits.

Upper range of hearing is ultimately limited by the amount and size of the auditory hair cells, each of which are tuned to respond for a specific frequency range. By age these die away and our hearing sensitivity and upper range of hearing lowers. No amount of acid will help with this.

>noise
Not really a problem with lossy encoding.

Requirements for spotting compression artifacts:

-Any decent enough headphone. M50X is more than fine and if you aren't using earbuds, chances are you already own that it takes.
-Knowledge of the codec used and compression artifacts common for it. Skill to spot this in listening.
-Low enough data rate / poor enough encoder / hard enough audio sample for the compression artifacts to be audible in the first place.

Then do an ABX test with minimum of ten tries to test it.

I'm getting PortaPros next week. We'll see how these sound in a few days when they come in.

I think I've fucked the cable on my Superlux HD688Bs by falling asleep in them, the cable cover has split. It still works for now though.

Since the cable is just a 3.5mm extension cable I'm thinking of getting a replacement to be safe. Are cheapo (~$10) cables alright for this tier of headphone?

>>59340900
I highly recommend 100% pure silver cables with solid silver connectors, it really does improve the 668B.

>>59340703
Also the K7XX and HD650.

>>59340916

I'll buy the cheapo cables then, thanks anon

>>59340703
>>59340930
X2 are dark/warm, with some moderate treble peaks. K7XX are very warm with peaky treble. K612 is a lot closer to 'flat'. Less midbass and most consistent treble I've heard from AKG. I assume you meant to put K712 instead of that second K612. K712 is pretty much just K7XX from what I understand. HD650 are warm, but not as much as either the AKG's or X2. 650's have by far the most 'pleasant' treble of any of these. Not hugely peaky. though I still prefer the 600.

Comfort wise all AKGs are the same in terms of earpads. Headband padding can be weird. K612 have 'lumps', but can be remedied just with one of those $5 wool pad cover things or various other ways. They're all extremely light for their size. X2 are a lot heavier, but some find comfier. Pads are big, but not quite AKG size. Pads are deeper, headband cushion is about the same size, but a bit more cushion-y to make up for the weight. HD650's are also super comfy and light, but sometimes can have a but of a heavy clamp when new.

>>59340900
Yes, it'll be fine. I still use $2 Chinese 3.5 to 3.5 cables for various of my $300+ headphones. A cable is a cable. Unless awfully shielded, uses bad copper. which is rare, or you're using it for extremely long runs [40ft+] it'll be no different.

>>59341067
So which out of these would sound the most
"fun"? I know how retarded this sounds, just indulge please.

>Price
$40-$50
>Location
USA
>Source
PC motherboard
>Type
Over ear
>Open or Closed
Either
>Comfort level
Max comfy

I need something that either has a long wire or can be plugged into a headphone extender. (My current broken headphones don't work with an extender) Front panel audio jack doesn't work so I need to be able to reach the motherboard jack in the back of my PC.

>>59341160
Also I have a big head so small headphones are probably a no go.

>>59341194
SHP9500

>>59340703
I'll give you the answer to all of that. Buy the hd600.

>>59341136
Depends on personal taste. I find HD600 most 'fun' for female vocals, as that is what I primarily listen to. You may find X2 more fun if you listen to EDM and stuff.

X2 or K7XX/K712 are probably the most 'fun' by most people's standards.

A good $200 or less closed ear?

I have a Behringer Q1202USB and not sure if that provides extra power, but I can hook the big headphone shit up to it.

Listening to electro and video games.

>>59341581
Also feel free to post an Amazon affiliate link. I'll click that shit.

>>59341206
Thanks. Seems like everything I asked for

>>59313638
Does using high gain actually effect sound quality with most amps such as the e10k? especially with high end headphones like the hd600?

>>59341581
DT770, K553 or MDR1A

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What is this memery?

(came with my lcd2's)

Just got a pair of Urbanites, and I noticed that if the cord moves in a certain way it'll cut out for a second. Apparently this is a common problem and there isn't much of a solution. Anybody else have experience with this?

>>59342999
balanced to mini balanced
nice consecutive numerical sequence

Portable Headphones with very good noise isolation or active noise cancelling for portable use
Prefer closed
Using Samsung S7 Edge
Former headphones: Audio Technica IM-02 and Beyerdynamic DT250.
Budget: <200USD
Location: Australia ( or amazon )

>>59343310
Beyerdynamic DT-770M
Not the most portable but beyers are strong enough that you can just throw them in your bag and nothing will break. Also best isolation, period.

>>59343158
yeah but are balance cables necessary? and do they even have any benefit without a balanced amp/source?

I have m40x and need a wire with a microphone on it what wire should I get?

>>59313638
There's a new thread: >>59343147

>>59343473
>yeah but are balance cables necessary?
Not really

>and do they even have any benefit without a balanced amp/source?
Not at all.