Where were you when lagdroids were BTFO for life?

>>59303627
Sitting in my chair and seeing iOS vulnerabilities.
#Vault7

>tfw no mobile OS that's both relatively open like Android and relatively secure like iOS

>>59303627
seld compiled kernel AOSP without google with
SElinux by N S A
they can suck my dick

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>>59303627
>better security

oh i am laffin

>>59303675
>secure like iOS
That was a nice meme last year. Apple the freedom fighter. Literally a honeypot as every mobilephone.

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>An operating system with CONFIRMED backdoors has better security
lol

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>>59303781
>developer diagnostic tool
>vs pic related
lol

>>59303742
iDelet

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>>59303797
Yeah it's just a dev diagnostic tool, it has NEVER EVER been used to bypass encryption 70 FUCKING TIMES before, right?

>>59303842
Cook looks like my grandma.

>>59303842
I thought Apple had terrible security, why would the government need them to unlock phones for them? You can't even keep your story straight, androidcuck.

>>59303861
Only memory mirroring needed to bypass its security. FBI is damn great if you think iOS is hard to break even if it's obligated to work with authorities and not just because the PRISM.

>>59303861
>why would the government need them to unlock phones for them?

If you have the capability to break encryption that you know a lot of your enemies are using, would you broadcast that fact to the whole world, ensuring that those enemies will move onto something you possibly cant break?

>>59303861
>I thought Apple had terrible security, why would the government need them to unlock phones for them?

Because you cannot exactly go to court and tell the judge that you already know what's on the phone because you have a backdoor.
That would make the backdoor worthless and no single criminal is worth that sacrifice.

>>59303898
They do this with androids. See the w7g thread, androidcuck.

>>59303842
omg apple confirmed for ISIS!!!!!!

steve jobs? syrian??? coincidence?? I think not!! nazis confirmed

>>59303627
>iphone fags desperate to appear more secure
>android fags desperate to explain how outsourcing software development to poo in loos somehow didn't compromise security before CIA buttfucked them
>windowsphone fags don't even try to pretend they are secure
Having a smartphone is a terrible idea.

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>>59303910

I have been posting there too

>>59303742
Reminder these work on all iphones and android exploits usually work on certain models.

>>59303910
>have comfy backdoor in iOS
>Android doable too, but more annoying
>leak the info that you can get into Android
>everyone who has something to hide switches over to the comfy backdoor system

>job just got a lot easier

Get on my tinfoil level my dude

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>>59303974
That's because Android is fragmented. Which means that there are new Android phones being sold with months old software, leaving people buying new phones vulnerable to things that have been patched in newer updates. Are you seriously trying to spin that as an advantage with Android? The corollary to what you said is that all iOS devices get security updates at the same time. Nougat was released SIX MONTHS ago and Lollipop is still the most common Android version.

You google fanboys are hilarious.

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>>59304025

why does this really matter when the cia has every version of ios on lock too

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>>59304025
>OTA updates released every few months don't exist
k

>>59304057
>every few months
So you have security vulnerabilities that exist for months at a time... Fucking great job Google™, keeping us safe from the botnet.

>>59304054
It doesn't, I'm just tired of retards on /g/ thinking Android is more secure because it's based on Linux. Android and iOS are equally vulnerable. I'm just calling out fanboys on their bullshit.

>>59303750
>relatively
Is English hard?

>>59304057
Still on 5.1 here

>>59303627
ios 14 exploits 14% of the market share one device

android 86% of the market share thousands of devices 26 exploits

ios is literally x7 times worse

>>59303627

Does anyone find it funny that every year some random company throws in some meme buzzword and normies lap it up and start talking about it everywhere without even knowing what they are talking about? Just last week a friend of mine was talking about how he wanted to get an iphone because "it's more secure", despite not having the money. I then asked him what he meant by that and he simply did not know, he just kept repeating what apple shills across the internet talk about. I mean, when has ANY of you ever heard someone going like "yeah man, I had a phone but it was unsecured so this thing happened to me yo" EVER? I also asked him this and he had no answer for it. Now here's the funny thing: he's using a moto x 2014, which is stuck in marshmallow and that's it.

This shit is a fucking meme, just like MUH TERAFLOPS in the gpu market, it's specially bad when you see this retarded shit coming from the company responsible for The Fappening. Yeah, great """""""""""""""""""security"""""""""""""""""""""""""" you have there.

Here's the real deal: there is no such thing as privacy when it comes to a smartphone. The government sees your shit whether you want it or not and this has even been confirmed by the recent wikileaks leak and none of you has ever heard of a single person complaining about a problem that happened because they used an "unsecured phone".

I wonder what's the next meaningless buzzword that idiots are gonna churn around. Oh how I miss the times when the internet had an entry bar to it and you wouldn't find as many clueless idiots as you do nowadays.

>>59304089
>So you have security vulnerabilities that exist for months at a time... Fucking great job Google™, keeping us safe from the botnet.
Yeah because iOS updates are received 10 millions times per year, right?

>thinking there's one flavour of android

>>59304089
That's one thing I have never heard.

>>59304025
>it's a feature!

>>59304111
This too. You can install lineage OS on tons of android smartphones right now if you're that paranoid about security.

>>59304103
Actually, for those numbers Android is worse. Because it is still 26 exploits vs 14.

Anyone who believes either system is secure is delusional though. Just put your phone in the drawer when you don't use it, make sure that you never enter any information you don't want the IC to know into any device connected to the internet and call it a day.

And even then you are stillkinda fucked because the retard next to you will still have his phone on the desk in the perfect location to record everything.

>>59304107
>B-but Apple!
I said they're equally shit. iOS has its disadvantages. Android has its disadvantages. Stop being a fanboy.

>>59304104
>Oh how I miss the times when the internet had an entry bar to it and you wouldn't find as many clueless idiots as you do nowadays.

So the time before smartphones?

Still using my Android phone with custom ROMs and kernels which will be infinitely more secure than any iPhone, why do you ask?

>>59303842

this will go down as one of the greatest anti-American decisions in tech. For the US to refuse to hand over information from murdering, evil, terrorists is truly mindboggling. At that moment I knew the truth. These people are against us and out to get us. It's the only logical conclusion. Fuck, even during the Bush error I don't think companies would get away that shit. Thank God for the MAGA movement.

>>59304166
I might be alright with their refusal to unlock the phone if they at least were consistent and never did it.

But this was nothing but a marketing stunt to create an image of a secure OS that cannot be cracked by the IC.

>>59304138
its 26% on a market share of 86% on a highly fragmented ecosystem

while its 14 on a 14% market that is zero fragmented..

>>59304166

Could you try to make your little piece of propaganda sound less like an infomercial?

>>59304202
Yup then they did a 180 and gave "private and secure" info over to the feds.

https://www.hackread.com/apple-facebook-kickass-torrents-owner-arrest/

>>59304208
Yeah, proportionally iOS definitely receives a lot more attention, because it is more widespread among the elite (which is actually worth wiretapping).

That doesn't change the fact that your average Android device seems to have more vulnerabilities than the average iOS device.

Which is a pointless discussion though, because if they already have one way to get your information it doesn't matter that much if they have 10 additional ones on top of that, too.

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>caring about OS level security when all your data is stored in "the cloud"

>>59304241
no ios has quite a lot pro exploits on a hardware base level that doesnt get fixable

on the other hand android has quite a lot on the 4.x.x which google already has state that it will stop supporting

if we actually compare apples to apples the latest versions of android is a lot less

>>59304290
But the latest version of Android has a fraction of a fraction of the market share despite being six months old.

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>>59304241
Are you really this ass devastated that iOS has absolute fucking dogshit security that you resort to typing random shit up in fits of rage while crying behind your keyboard?

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>>59304202

it was 100% pr

>>59304314
I actually use Android.

>>59304301
thats not the point its not google job to fix the damn exploits in the first place
google OTA them only on their devices and on those that actually has a stock android the rest is up to each manufacturer

while on apple its all apple and only apple

>>59304290
>ios has quite a lot pro exploits on a hardware base level that doesnt get fixable

Good point I suppose.

>>59303842

They only did this because American companies are getting blown out in overseas sales. No one wants to buy shit the US gov. can just log into when they want.

>>59304336
the point i was making is those kind of "exploits" dont just happen on a hardware base you dont just let a door open on uefi level
this is aslr level of thing they are very specialized and very specific so its safe to assume that they arent there by accident

>>59304202

the reason it seems it was a PR stunt is because they get away with shit like this now. In reality, it was completely political. I lost a lot of respect for Apple. It was immoral what they did.

>>59303861

The gov wanted a court decision that could be used a precedence to force companies to create back doors when the gov wants.

You can tell it was easy to get the info because a third party company came up with a solution and sold it to the FBI inside of like 2 months while this went on.

>>59304328
Whoever you assign blame to, the end result is still the same. The vast majority of Android users are on Lollipop and Marshmallow, on devices that the manufacturers don't give a shit about updating.

>>59304319
>Microsoft and Google were the first to ENTHUSIASTICALLY join PRISM
>Apple held out for five years, and RELUCTANTLY joined after years of government bullying
Wow Applel BTFO, Android users win yet again.

>>59304404
the vast majority of those are actually modded roms which they already have quite a lot of fixes already

>>59304436
What? A tiny fraction of people install modded roms. Unless you're talking about the manufacturer customizations. You're still a fucking idiot if you think using a phone that gets abandoned six months after release makes you more secure than iOS.

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>>59304430
>RELUCTANTLY joined after years of government bullying

>>59304319
I just realized, but $20M doesn't seem like very much money (for defense spending) for this kind of treasure-trove of data. Is there any estimates for how much the US government spends on surveillance? Obviously most of it is black spending, but has anything guessed or looked at just the Snowden programs?

>>59303627
>Arguing about this shit when all of it is compromised

What the fuck are you retards doing

>>59304090
What's wrong with relatively?

>>59304314
What does your picture have anything to do with Apple's security? Every post you've made in this thread reeks of asshurt. Eat shit, android shill. Your phone is garbage.

>>59304469
20m$/mo is a fucking joke for what that software is supposed to do. Can't be right.
I work in a software engineering project with 150+devs, our staff costs are this high and our fucking program is nowhere near something like that when it comes to functionality.

>>59304388
Except it was not, people of the FBI asked apple to create a super secret backdoor that works everywhere anytime for whatever reason they wanted to lock your device.

What is worse if when somebody eventually sells that key it's going to get leaked one day and everybody can just look on the internet to find the key and hack your IPhone :^).

Nice security retard.

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>>59304489
pic related: you

>>59304166

it wasn't the US refusing to hand over that info, just Apple aka Clinton, Soros, Podesta loving liberal thugs who took advantage of Jobs death and took control of a large tech company. Opened the door wide open for them.

but im sure that's what you meant.

>>59304533
You are projecting, shill-kun. CIA needs to bring a warrant to ask Apple for my info, they already have yours stored in Utah :)

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>>59304561
>CIA needs to bring a warrant to ask Apple for my info
>they need a warrant to remotely enter your iPhones gaping asshole of a backdoor aplel will never patch
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>59304455
lol ok

https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_11629096.html

the vast majority of them are on a pre 4.4 built
and from those many of them are highly specialized on certain apps

while on apple its already on the uefi level especially the Kernel ASLR Defeat.. ring any bells? https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/10/bypassing_intel.html

what are the chances of the very SAME exploit being found on two different uarch and behaving EXACTLY the same ?

yeah no the outcome is slim to none

>>59304527

>actually thinking there was some security bomb within Apple's system that would go off if Apple simply retrieves information stored on their servers

>b-b-but everyones iphone will be hacked!

Apple is so full of shit. I'm actually a fan of some of their products, too.

>>59304590
And a huge percentage of Android users are on 4.4 or below.

These leaks didn't contain every exploit the CIA knows of, it's very likely the leaker left out the most recent vulnerabilities as to not help people with malicious intentions. We don't know what current exploits the CIA is capable of on Android and iOS. Android is not more secure than iOS. Google is in bed with the NSA/CIA/etc just as much as Apple is. You are a deluded fanboy if you think you are protecting your information buy supporting Google.

>>59304582
Nice deflection, shill-kun.

>>59303627
t. person who's known this for the past six years

>>59303742
android security does't even exist, physical access or not. ios is leaps and bounds ahead of android in terms of security.

>>59303842
>apple security is so strong not even the FBI can unlock your iPhone

wow feels good man, glad I made the smart choice.

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>>59304663
>>59304678
Yup, rock solid security.

http://metro.co.uk/2017/02/20/emily-ratajkowski-falls-victim-to-fresh-icloud-hack-with-200-nude-photos-leaked-to-former-escort-helen-wood-6460006/

>>59303986
nah, there's no iOS backdoor, Apple is the only company using HSMs for authentication. Google is too cheap to use those. Apple is the most secure consumer device available whereas Android has security as an afterthought to personal data farming.

>>59304137
>You can void your warranty on your multiple hundred dollar device for a chance at a curry ROM that'll have better privacy, maybe.

oh wow great gonna get an android right now bro

>>59304165
lololol

>>59304165
kek, you can almost guarantee this guy has been rooted by the chinese for months and just doesn't give a fuck.

>>59304290
go learn english somewhere else faggot, we aren't your ESL class

Can someone tell me why do applefags even bother trying to say shit about the iphone's laughable security?

The truth is that none of these phones are secure, android or ios, but I find it hilarious that the fanboys of the company that gave us The Fappening and 14 zero day exploits are still saying shit about security.

Gives me second hand embarassment for the lot.

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>>59304720
>>59304729
This, iOS backdoors are nothing but a myth.

http://www.universityherald.com/articles/64558/20170209/iphone-hacker-iphone-owners.htm

>>59304314
>says some incoherent babble complaining about apple
>posts completely irrelevant unrelated image to "prove his point"

ahahahahaha

>>59304468
correct, problem?

>>59304582
>2015
damn reaching WAYYY back to find some supporting evidence
>only it's some OSX bullshit and not phone related at all
oh well you got the right company i guess, partial credit?

>>59304704
>icloud
>ios
you don't seem very good at this

https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2016/08/13/is-apples-cloud-key-vault-crypto/

tl:dr, apple is better than google

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>>59304760
>b-b-but apple's security i-is just as bad!!!!
>the FBI has to ask Apple for help and sit on their ass for months until Apple finally gives over some data? th-th-that's just p-pr!!
Brainless monkeys like you are a never ending source of entertainment for the master race. There's a reason why all CEOs and politicians elect to use Apple.

>>59304781
>cook takes over
>apple joins prism

really joggles my nogging

I'm sure apple is just as pro-privacy as they once were though

>>59304770
hey bud do you genuinely believe iOS has lesser security than android? considering >96% of android is on outdated software?

you're just embarrassing yourself at this point. I get you cant afford apple products but please stop shilling and shut the fuck up.

"But the argument that Apple has enabled a law enforcement backdoor seems to miss what Apple has actually done. Instead of building a system that allows the company to recover your secret information, Apple has devoted enormous resources to locking themselves out. Only customers can access their own information. In other words, Apple has decided that the only way they can hold this information is if they don’t even trust themselves with it."

>>59304832

14

zero

day

exploits

that

work

on

every

iphone.

>>59304821
don't bother posting this, freetards don't know what a hardware security module is how it works, or how to correctly use one. Just let them be Google plebes and have their car's oil temp monitored for ad revenue.

>>59304855
You don't even need zero days for androids because breaking them is trivial.

>>59304843
You know what's Ironic? I used to own appleshit.

see >>59304464

Never again.

>>59304855
>worked
>until apple patched it, long ago

>>59304866
sup reddo

"Rather than trusting Apple, your phone encrypts its secrets under a hardcoded 2048-bit RSA public key that belongs to Apple’s HSM. It also encrypts a function of your device passcode, and sends the resulting encrypted blob to iCloud. Critically, only the HSM has a copy of the corresponding RSA decryption key, thus only the HSM can actually view any of this information. Apple’s network sees only an encrypted blob of data, which is essentially useless."

damn why is Apple so smart lads, why can't Android have security on this level?

>>59304865

You mean as trivial as the iphones that come with their legs open on day zero?

Also

>There's a reason why all CEOs and politicians elect to use Apple.

Probably exibithionists thrilled to see how the public will react to their nude pics and sex videos on they get released in the wild every other day.

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>>59304855
where are you getting that 14 number from? regardless, its still less than androids.

>>59304866
Of course you won't, shill-kun. Stick to the official phones of the CIA... Androids! Sure, they are laggy pieces of shit that sometimes literally explode, but what you lose in performance you gain in transparency (of your information)

>>59304898
lol, this is just sad.

>>59304898
Put your trip back on. I've already filtered you but this is getting pathetic.

>>59304866
that has nothing whatsoever to do with what I just said, you stupid braindead fuck.

android is less secure than ios. this is a fact.

>>59303627
every tech journalist has known this for the past several years.

It's almost a class issue at this point, poorer people should have the same high level of protection iOS affords without have to spend so much on a phone.

>>59304914

Look, I get that you are mad that some random kid saw your tiny dick on icloud and everything, but you should take a cold shower. It will shrink it even further but at least you won't be as buttblasted.

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>>59304912
You're right about that, it's not like there's a phone faster than the iphone 7 plus that costs half as much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcTAXsFHu5I


Also iPhones have NEVER exploded, EVER.

>>59304945
Never seen a mass recall ever ordered for an Apple product, shill-kun.

>>59304903
24 model specific exploits
vs
14 exploits that work on every single iphone

Hmmm

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>>59304949

Probably why pic related happened.

>>59304945
rofl I love how this pathetic twat conveniently keeps going off topic when this is a matter of security.

dude your fucking pathetic lmao. you shoulda stayed anonymous but now I know to filter your idiotic posts.

>>59304949
This, so what if a few hundred iPhones have burst into flames and almost burned off people's faces off. Mass recalls for these "minor" apple incidents won't ever happen, right?

https://www.google.com/amp/www.breitbart.com/california/2016/10/21/2nd-fire-apple-iphone-7-threatens-mass-recall/amp/

>>59304949
I bet there are some folks that are just thrilled that faulty apple products that bend and catch touch disease don't get the recall they should. At least other manufacturers actually correct their fuckups, unlike Apple trying to rub it under the rug.

>>59304965
thanks

>iOS has better security
>has multiple kernel vulnerabilities
Pardon?

>>59304952
source on your 14 figure. 24 isnt model specific, its for android which is an OS.

stay BTFO

>>59304747
Pray tell how the official LineageOS would be compromised by the Chinese without anybody noticing

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>mfw theres people in this thread actually arguing android is more secure than iOS

>>59304980
Why doesn't Google correct their massive fuckup they call "Android"?

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>>59305068
XD

>>59304944
keep digging that hole, it's easier than coming up with a legitimate argument.

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>mfw noone will ever put anything on my phone ever because it's never connected to a network in the first place
your move, botnets.

>>59304832

Gaining access to an encrypted disk and spying on someone with a trojan are not the same thing. You cannot unencrypt AES-encrypted disks without the encryption key, regardless of the OS. If the user of the phone is in possession of it, however, you can trick them into running vulnerable code on their machine via arbitrary code execution exploits, and you could use that to bypass encryption entirely to just have a program send you files while the unencrypted disk is mounted. The problem was that the FBI didn't break into the system beforehand.

If it wasn't a phone, and instead it were something like desktop Windows, with a disk encrypted by veracrypt, the FBI would have the same problem.

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>>59305058
>I use custom roms and kernels
>that makes me more secure
hahahahahahahahaha

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>>59304756

>>59305101
>"doesn't get fixable"
>"which google has already state that it will stop"
>latest versions of android is a lot less"

kill yourself please

>>59305095
Sounds like an entirely useless device and I question why the fuck you even own one.

>>59305100
>My phone is not more secure when I get daily updates compared to using software that's several years old and don't get security updates

Thanks for confirming that you don't have an argument

reminder that most of /g/ uses discount chink phones that are spying on them via code baked into the firmware they can't ever change.

but they don't mind because it was cheaper even if most of the wireless bands don't work where they live. also you can rice the home screen which iOS doesn't allow. Remember to save money and have all your info stolen by China.

>>59305164
Being spied on by China >>>>>>> being spied on by the US

>>59305148
virtualization, my dude. i harnessed the power of autism and every app is sandboxed in its own cozy vm.

the only downside is that anything even remotely hardware intensive runs like ass, but not even google services an apps escape the botnet net.

i'm looking to grab a fancy 8-core with 6+GBs of ram soon to see if it improves any. not looking forward to fucking with android 7 and kernel again, though, but it's worth it. i might just settle for 6, which is probably going to be a lot less work.

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https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_23593137.html

>any Apple os
>secure
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>59305190
Stupid as fuck. You own a communications device whose only real purpose it's good at is communicating. Buy a fucking laptop or something for what you want to do.

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>Google shilling and apologists ITT
What happened to hating the Google botnet? /g/ shows their true colors- sad!

>>59305053

https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_11629096.html
https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_13205587.html

For the number of exploits, just count them. For model specific parts, note the "Affected Devices" column of the table. For both Android and iOS, not all vulnerabilities affect all devices. Many of these listed for both devices have already been patched, and only affect older models. Of the 14 iOS vulnerabilities, 4 have a "death date", meaning that they were patched already. The other remaining 10 are still in the operating system. By comparison, of the 26 (anon must have miscounted) Android vulnerabilities, only 5 of them affect all phones with the current version of Android.

Assuming one is using an Android phone with the most up to date version of Android or a ROM with the most up to date version of Android, the CIA has 5 tools it can use to exploit you. By comparison, for an up to date iPhone, 10 tools still work, and one of them can fuck your Kernel.

>>59305207
i can still use it normally, i just can't have multiple apps running at the same time or use gps.
fuck off, cia

>>59305258
>Assuming one is using an Android phone with the most up to date version of Android or a ROM with the most up to date version of Android

and this is where your entire argument comes crashing down. >96% of android devices run pre 7.0.

like I said, stay BTFO.

>>59305969
>iToddler can only win by comparing his $900 iShit to $10 throwaway android phones to "win"

No wonder iToddlers try to avoid comparisons to flagships that are on the same tier/price range, they literally get BTFO every time.

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If android phones are so much more secure, why is the bounty for a remote iPhone exploit 7.5 times higher?

>>59306030
If iToddlers are so smart, why are they brainlets?

>>59306015
Even flagship phones often ship with out of date Android versions and it takes months for the manufacturers to update them, and their support doesn't last as long as Apple. About the only phones on par with iPhones in terms of getting support are the Nexus/Pixel devices.

>>59306101
>t. iToddler damage control

>>59306134
>Galaxy S Pajeet

>>59303627
That wasn't established whatsoever.

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>>59306158
>t. iBrainlet

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>>59306198
t. Half as likely to make six figures

>>59303627
It was always common belief that Appletards are mentally disabled, this just confirms it.

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>>59306209
>iToddler can only "win" by comparing himself to people who make $50/day picking crops

No wonder iToddlers have so many self esteem issues and constantly need to defend their purchases. I'd be scared to compare myself to purchasers of premium Android devices too if I was a poorfag iToddler.

>normies not using Kali NetHunter

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>>59306253
I actually don't own an iPhone or any Apple products. I'm just tired being associated with neckbeards like you.

>>59306282
>t. iToddler

>>59306290
>t. Enlightened individual who thinks using Android makes him better than the dumb iSheeple because it's based on Linux

>>59304729
You can't get freedom without some sacrifice

>>59305969

>96% of android devices
96% of people are plebs, and they don't matter. The only people that should matter in terms of security are people intelligent enough to use the latest version of the OS.

>>59306030

1. Jailbreakers
2. People who want to compromise rich execs, who are more likely to use iPhones.

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>>59303742
HARDWARE
BASED
PERSISTENCE

>>59306436
>use the latest version of the OS.
except because of googles fragmentation and carrier restrictions, it takes ages to get the latest update, regardless if you're intelligent/savvy or not.

not going to bother arguing further. if you genuinely think iOS is less secure than android, you are one stupid fuck.

>>59307629
Many Android phones never get a single OS update, the carriers produce a version they like, lock their fucking adware to the main screen, and that's that. Most of the phones people buy at Wal-Mart and pay as they go are like this. You might be able to remove this crap but to get your updates you might have to go with some meme Android fork.

At least every Apple phone, tablet, and iPod Touch can be updated without fucking with your retarded carrier until Apple decides to EOL your device.

>>59307751
see >>59304057

>>59307845
>T-this one phone on this one carrier proves you wrong
t.google

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>>59307868
That carrier is boost and I know many people who have it who complain about updates occuring every few months.

While google itself does not provide updates to most Android phones, most mobile carriers do through OTA else they would get horrible PR.

But keep memeing hard as fuck while conveniently forgetting that updates gimp the shit out of old apple products like the bendgate-touch-disease 6 plus and itunes-shitting-itself-i-touch-myself-at-night 4G I paid good fucking money for.

>>59307954
>else they would get horrible PR.
The DO get horrible PR and don't care.
Very often the customer has only one or two choices of carrier and no good ones.

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>>59307954
you're a cia nigger, i knew it

>>59303861
What do you think they eventually did you retarded cuck?

>>59307629

>regardless if you're intelligent/savvy or not
If you're savvy, you have Lineage installed, which uses the latest AOSP with all security updates. If you're dumb, you use whatever came with your phone.

>>59308836
>having to much about with bullshit meme OS
nah how about people just use ios

>>59307954

>implying Touch Disease was caused by an 'update'

It was a consequence of the same chassis flexing that caused Bendgate. The touch digitizer fucks up because it's flexing in a specific way.

The reason why you're pointing to the 6/6 Plus is because that's about all you *can* point to in furtherance of your argument that updates render iOS devices practically unusable. Even as of last year, the iPhone 5S still accounted for 30ish percent of the iOS population. Shit, when my wife had to RMA her LG G3 for the second time, she dug out her old iPhone 4S and used it for a week while she waited for the Languid Gooks to ship her a replacement phone. It worked fine. Definitely old and lacking in newer features, but usable.

>>59308851
so that they can have ten critical exploits rather than between 8 and 12? wow, what an effective way to stay secure.

the bottom line is that there are no common mobile device out there that the CIA can't hack. deal with it, faggot

>>59308725
>>59303861
>>59303842

To the best of my knowledge, the nuance behind the '70 iPhones unlocked for Feds by Apple' headlines was...

1) Older phones and/or iOS versions that didn't support full-device encryption via the Secure Element. This includes iPhones 5S and older, and iOS versions 7 and earlier. These phones, due to their less-protected nature, required a far less unreasonable burden of effort on Apple's part, and were thus requestable by the authorities.

2) iCloud backups. iCloud backups are stored on Apple's servers, and while they are encrypted, Apple does hold a master key that can decrypt them. Because Apple possesses these backups on their own property (their servers), it is well within judicial authority to subpoena the backups.

In fact, in the San Bernardino case, one of the things Apple said in their own defense was that, if the authorities had just left the phone alone, Apple could've attempted to induce an iCloud backup and hand the resulting backup over, as they've done in the past. The ham-handed way in which the authorities bungled that possibility led many to suspect deliberate sabotage in order to force this matter, in an attempt to establish legal precedent in the FBI's favor.

tl;dr Your iPhone is actually relatively safe, despite the "revelation" that Apple cooperated with the Feds in certain cases.

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>>59308662
Even worse, I'm a mason.

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>>59309074
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8

>>59304952
>model specific
maybe in your delusional fucking mind, cuck boy.

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>>59309086
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAC-5BQnuXI

>>59309074
But are you free, as in freedom?

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>>59309131

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>>59309152
I AM FREEDOM.

>>59303627
Don't the different security programs matter as well?

I still haven't seen any hack that doesn't require the user to download some exploitable app.

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>>59303627
Daily reminder that no os or software is safe....

>>59309398
True, but iOS is infinitely more secure than android.

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>>59309052
>mfw every lagdroid and Google shill ITT ignored this post

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>>59303627
>t. iToddler shill

so wait, what you're telling me is that these were plans to turn everyone into CIA agents.....

metal as fuck

>>59309553
>>59309052
That is based on absolutely nothing. Fact of the matter is that apple is handing over everything they have and unlocking phones, no going around that.

>>59304138
>explains exactly in which context to see these vulnerabilities
>but bro 26 is bigger than 14 iphone wins

>>59312408
you mean complying with lawful warrants, literally every company has to do that

>>59303857
wtf i want to fuck tim cook now

>>59304057
updating to 7.0 on my moto z play us right now

>>59303627
>So many published vulnerabilities to publish
>So many unrevealed iOS vulnerabilities that'll be used over and over again

>>59303627
Lol at having any critical data on an internet connected device, especially a mobile one that you can lose more easily than a Kardashian loses her virginity.

>>59303627
Let us create /g/entooman OS COMPLETELY FREE AND OPEN SOURCE for phones? I'll fund it.

>>59304729
At least you have an option to do it if you so choose. On Apple devices, and iOS you're fucked with no chance of even making it better.

The amount of Apple cock suckers in this thread is insane.

>>59304057
>every few months

lol at u, updates every 14days on my lagdroid.

>>59304704
Pics or it never happened

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>>59304057
September 2016 here

>>59303842
Apple loves towelheads from durkadurkastan, that's why they won't unlock it.

>he isn't running Replicant or at least LineageOS

You would have to be retarded not to.

>>59304165
>shitskin and gook amateur hobbyist code
>secure