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>OpenBSD conspicuously absent from all the CIA exploits Look

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>OpenBSD conspicuously absent from all the CIA exploits

Look who was right again, cakeboys.
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>>59300718
fuck off theo
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LAMO remember how smug linux children used to be?
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>>59300753
not really
https://www.cvedetails.com/top-50-products.php
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>>59300730
he's referencing this

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=129236621626462&w=2
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>>59300761
>freebsd on the list
>openbsd not on the list
AHAHAHAHA YES YES YES
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>>59300820
https://www.cvedetails.com/product/163/Openbsd-Openbsd.html?vendor_id=97
Last vulnerability in 2014, before then 2011
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>>59300857
Last time there was an active user on the Internet running OpenBSD: 2014, before that 2011
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>>59300761
completely misleading
every "linux product" is considered in there: https://www.cvedetails.com/product-list/product_type-/vendor_id-0/firstchar-L/page-18/products.html?sha=6167cf5948b6f4a3e6441f0a49f4894dd77a8d07&trc=1269&order=1

this factors in vulnerabilities from dozens of distinct distributions using a variety of different kernels. some distributions like debian have 0 vulnerabilities. some have a few dozen like ubuntu.
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>>59300886
>Top 50 Products By Total Number Of *Distinct* Vulnerabilities
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BASED NINTENDO
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>>59300881
fake news detected
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I don't get it, if all Linux distributions are open source how was the CIA able to put backdoors in them without anyone noticing?
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Yeah, but it's the same reason we don't see TempleOS and MS-DOS on the list - no one is using OpenBSD for anything worth exploiting. CIA doesn't care about 3 autists with enough self-hate to run it as the main OS.
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>>59301064

It's not backdoors they have put in, it's a vulnerability they have found and exploit: a zero-day vulnerability.
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>>59301097
>i-it's only because nobody uses it!!
butthurt CIA nigger detected
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He warned us, /g/.
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>>59301064
GNU/Linux*
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>>59300718
S E C U R I T Y B Y O B S C U R I T Y
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>>59300718
Puffy is now smuggier than ever
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>>59300790
/thread
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>>59301700
https://8ch DOT net/tech/res/720743.html#q721666
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>>59301722
>https://8ch DOT net/tech/res/720743.html#q721666
breaking news: the accused denies it
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>>59301741
Read the post before posting please
>I will point out that Greg did not even work at NETSEC while the OCF
>development was going on. Before January of 2000 Greg had left >NETSEC.
>The timeline for my involvement with IPSec can be clearly demonstrated
>by looking at the revision history of:
> src/sys/dev/pci/hifn7751.c (Dec 15, 1999)
> src/sys/crypto/cryptosoft.c (March 2000)
>The real work on OCF did not begin in earnest until February 2000.
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>>59301777
> read the accused denial
get out
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>>59300718
Why attack an OS that no one uses?
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>>59301871
But nobody uses Linux either, anon.
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>>59300857
https://www.openbsd.org/errata60.html
You are miserable to OpenBSD community too.
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>>59301948
Then Linux is safe. Great.
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>>59301680
It is effectively a zero-day, you pedantic shit stain.
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>>59300718
>https://www.openbsd.org/errata60.html

>Package management through a folder of makefiles
>Shitworth web page
>no slack, gitter, github
No wonder there no risk running BSD family. Nobody is running it.
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>>59302044
>no github
look on the homepage
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>>59302044
>literally the go to OS for network infrastructure appliances
>durr no one is using it because it doesn't have my favourite instant messenger
Terminate your existence.
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>>59302044
>>>/v/
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IT'S A CONSPIRACY

https://www.cvedetails.com/vendor/1594/Gentoo.html
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It seems like OpenBSD would just be difficult in general to find useful exploits for. They routinely audit the entire source tree, their applications are simple by design to reduce their attack surface, and the entire base system has mitigations enforced by default to stop most kinds of exploits from even working or causing damage in the first place.

I guess it doesn't make sense to work on OpenBSD because whatever they find will probably be fixed and if it's not it can probably be mitigated.
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>>59302074
Openssh is bloated as fuck and mentioned countless times in the leaks. Seems like the only difference between OpenBSD and any other OS is the fake reputation of code quality, even if the code isn't audited by much people, so their work is an open blackbox that nobody wants to touch even if they can. iOS, W10, Linux and even FreeBSD is much better target these days.
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>>59302125s
isn't openssh is included in every major os?
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>>59302125
>>59302153
>he's still using OpenSSH instead of GNU LSH
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>>59302157
why is he wearing glasses without lens?
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THEY KNEW ALL ALONG


OpenBSD 6.0 Tightens Security by Losing Linux Compatibility

OpenBSD, one of the more prominent variants of the BSD family of Unix-like operating systems, will be released at the beginning of September, according to a note on the official OpenBSD website.

Often touted as an alternative to Linux. OpenBSD is known for the lack of proprietary influence on its software and has garnered a reputation for shipping with better default security than other OSes and for being highly vigilant (some might say strident) about the safety of its users. Many software router/firewall projects are based on OpenBSD because of its security-conscious development process.

Most significant among the latest security-related changes for OpenBSD is the removal of Linux emulation support. ...
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FreeBSD is free too. But you and me are brothers so I will respect your post.
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>>59302125
>>59302044
>>59301964
THEO ON SHOELACES SUICIDE

BSDFAGS ON SUPPORT BELTS

DOCTORS HAVE TAKEN AWAY THEIR WATCH AND LIFE
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>>59300753

wtf I hate xkcd now
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>>59300718
So openBSD is government shit
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>>59302206
Multiple ABIs makes the attack surface bigger by design. While you do gain compatibility with applications of a different system you also gain compatibility with their malware and some of their design flaws have to be copied as well. They don't actively support WINE for similar reasons.
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OpenBSD confirmed honeypot
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>openbsd has no appications
Literally unusable.
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>>59302206
>Most significant among the latest security-related changes for OpenBSD is the removal of Linux emulation support. ...
Just disabled mine on FreeBSD. Fuck Linux.
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>>59300718
>>OpenBSD conspicuously absent from all the CIA exploits
Makes sense, since the FBI planted a backdoor in its IPsec implementation. That's why OpenBSD is FBI's recommended OS, you know.
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>>59302294
Really?
GNOME, firefox, chromium, Emacs, Vim, KDE, libreoffice, etc.
It has pretty much every application also available on linux distros.
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>>59302326
>since the FBI planted a backdoor in its IPsec implementation
No, it didn't
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>>59302174
Why are you staring at negros? Are you a cuck?
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>OpenBSD 6.0
>Last package update was 26-Jul-2016
U N M A I N T A I N E D
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>>59302492
That's the -stable branch.
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>>59300718

Uncatchable Joe

>>59301948

Just about any embedded OS is Linux-based, fag.
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>>59302536
*-release
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>try out OpenBSD 6.0
>package manager is so bad, have to write full HTTP paths to where the packages are
>install i3
>start up i3
>all cores instantly max out to 100%
>can't generate i3 config
>everything is frozen
>almost had to buy a new laptop because of this trash os
LMAO. OPENBSD IS TRASH.
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>>59302654
laptop was overheating and had to force shutdown.
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>>59302654
>package manager is so bad, have to write full HTTP paths to where the packages are

# echo "installpath = https://mirrors.evowise.com/pub/OpenBSD/6.0/packages/amd64/" >/etc/pkg.conf
# pkg_add i3
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>>59302715
There's actually a huge pkg.conf with all of the mirrors in the /etc/examples/. You just have to find your country/region in the file and uncomment the desired mirror then copy it to /etc/
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>can't use OpenBSD without it faulting every 5 minutes
pic is related
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>>59300753
xmchdjss is so obnoxious.
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I am installing FreeBSD right now. What's a good DE that won't lag like shit in FreeBSD?
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>>59302884

gnome3
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>>59302884
Lumina
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>>59302654
>>59302758

Do you have HP laptop by any chance? Try disabling embedded controller if you have trouble with it.
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>>59300718

>no one cares to explore exploits for my stamp collection hobby grade os
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>>59302556
>Just about any embedded OS is Linux-based, fag.
Citation needed.
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>>59303024

He meant every chink grade wifi routers have broken linux as firmware so every other nontrivial SoC must use linux.
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>>59302884
Installed it yesterday, i3 works fine.
Performance is better than debian
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>>59303162
>[FreeBSD] Performance is better than debian
Why would you lie on the internet?
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>>59303162
That's a lie you unfuckable dickless faggot.
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>>59302654
>install FreeBSD
>all drivers work out of the box
>install and compile i3-gaps
>install everything else
>port my dotfiles from linux
>only 2 lines need to be changed to work
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>>59302294
Does it run a JVM?
In that case it's pretty suitable for some 70% of enterprise software.

I mean, most of the enterprise stuff is built for OpenJDK anyway.
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>>59303276
y
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>>59301064
Buffer overflow exploits like the heartbleed openssl. Nobody puts those in there on purpose most of the time. They are just mistakes that nobody has found yet expect for the CIA niggers. But mostly they are exploits in certain softwares or only effect certain older distributions not everyone running Linux.
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>>59303252
>FreeBSD
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>>59300857
OpenBSD only counts the packages that get installed by default. That's like installing the Gentoo Stage 1 tarball and feeling smug about how it has the same amount of vulnerabilities.
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>>59300886
>some distributions like debian have 0 vulnerabilities
They kept saying how we were outdated, who's laughing now?
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>>59303337
openbsd has a ton of stuff installed by default
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>>59303333
quads don't lie. BSD has been a joke since 2000s
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>>59303358
Compared to what MINIX?
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>>59303339
https://www.cvedetails.com/product/36/Debian-Debian-Linux.html?vendor_id=23
It has 981 vulnerabilities, not counting the underlying linux kernel which is another 1712 + 88 of openssh and so on
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>>59303333
what the hell is happening in that channel
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>>59303378
>OpenBSD features a full server suite and can be easily configured as a mail server, web server, FTP server, DNS server, router, firewall, NFS file server, or any combination of these.
source: wikipedia
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>>59300857
Last one was in January. Unless of course you don't count OpenSSH for some reason.
https://www.cvedetails.com/vendor/97/Openbsd.html
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>>59302360
>chromium
Then why use OpenBSD?
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>>59303459
we were talking about the linux kernel, so i posted the vulnerabilities of the openbsd kernel.
>>59303477
why, you are not allowed to use obsd and browse the internet at the same time?
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>>59303337

Gentoo Stage 1 tarball doesn't have web server or dns server.
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>>59300925
Nintendo doesn't use a UNIX based operating system. Sony uses BSD. Nintendo has their own OS that isn't open source and isn't based on any open sourced OS.
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>>59303613
Nintendo uses FreeBSD.
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>>59301064
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>>59303171
firefox runs better
less bloat, less ram usage, audio driver fuckin works without stupid noise
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>>59301064
It was an empirical test of the claimed theoretical advantages of the open source model, and the model obviously failed.
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>>59301064
>open source makes it secure
This is the biggest joke ever. Face it, the code is there but no one bothers to go through a 1,000,000+ lines mess, most of which was "contributed" by Pajeets all across India.

Also they receive so many atrocious and poorly written, piss-bad pull requests every day that so long as yours looks pretty and sane it'll get through. Putting malicious code in open source projects is a joke, especially for organizations with as many resources as the CIA.
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>>59302294
>it doesn't support what I use so it doesn't work for anybody
You're dumb
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>>59301064
they just look for Zero-days because everything is written in C
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>>59301064
who pays him?
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lmao that freebsd cuck must be so mad now
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>>59302654
>a ricer is retarded
who would've thought?!
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>>59302884
Fuck desktop environments, just get a window manager. Windowmaker's A E S T H E T I C.
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>>59302884
almost any of them?

i like openbsd because it comes with cwm, don't know if freebsd has an up-to-date version
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>>59303658
Nintentards BTFO, special snowflakes thought the Japs could still make their own OS.

Wiiiiii used FreeBSD code and so did the Gamecube.
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>>59307072
Literally no one cares.
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>>59304131
There is a huge difference between Linux, where you have huge companies basically running the show with a little refereeing by Linus, and OpenBSD which is hand maintained by a paranoid leaf and a few other people.

Theo actually did a full audit of the entire system, Linus just laughed and told us good goys to go back to sleep.
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>>59307044
What is that ejaculator extractor
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>>59307110
Open-source Openstep window manager clone made for the GNUStep project but which works great as a standalone WM as well.

It's great, super lightweight, and has the best UI ever put on a Unix IMHO.

Compare above to pic here, this is what we all could have had in the 1990s if Next had only dropped the price to affordable levels. I'm an oldfag and the computer press was awash with rumors saying that Next might drop the price and compete with Windows 95 but it didn't happen. Also it needed better hardware. Anyway forget what could have been, get Windowmaker today!
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>>59307163
too bad it's not too standards compliant, i don't think it even supports fullscreen
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>>59307095
that one nintentard who was all NUHHH UHHH does
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>>59303705
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>>59307175
Full screen patch has been working for ages anon.
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>>59307217
then why was it not merged?
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>>59303423
>can be easily configured as a mail server, web server, FTP server, DNS server, router, firewall, NFS file server, or any combination of these.
is not the same as
>default
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>>59307232
the software required to do that is INCLUDED in openbsd though
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>>59300718
[0.00 shekels have been transferred to your account]
cuck
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>>59307230
I mean to say, it was patched ages ago and it's worked for ages.
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>>59307241
but it's not all ENABLED or running, anon
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>>59307244
huh, doesn't seem to hide the dock though
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>>59307175
>standards
Btw which standards doesn't it comply with? If you're thinking of special snowflake plumbing for KDE / Gnome, no it doesn't support (all) these non-standards.
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>>59307293
well like the aforementioned fullscreen support

the version of fvwm included in openbsd doesn't even support it, i wonder why they bother including it at all nowadays
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>>59307311
It support full screen just fine though anon. Perhaps your application is the issue.
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Everybody knows windows is malware with intentional backdoors and BSD is worthless, broken garbage.
Shills can't change that.
STFU.
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>>59307311
Turns out this is a bug in X with some setups and you should report your configuration and the affected application(s) to freedesktop.org. Might explain why many people seem unaffected by this.

What hardware, OS, etc are you using?
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>>59307410
openbsd's xenocara

software in question is emacs
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>>59307178
Not really. I just thought it was kind of cool that a company wasn't using a UNIX based OS. I like non UNIX operating systems like Haiku. I thought that "Nintendo OS" was its own thing because I couldn't find any information on its Kernel and it has a lot of unique features.
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>>59307447
could be one of those times that openbsd's focus on security activates a weird bug

too bad
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>>59307044
Windowmaker was removed from my repos due to security vulnerabilities. Nice try shill.
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>>59308690
Which meme OS are you using?
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>>59301064
because nobody actually audits the code for those projects

except for openbsd of course
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>>59308690
>>59308753
>The window manager Window Maker was found vulnerable to a buffer overflow
>due to improper bounds checking when setting the window title.
>An attacker can remotely exploit this buffer overflow by using malicious
>web page titles or terminal escape sequences to set a excessively long
>window title.
>This attack can lead to remote command execution with the privileges of
the user running Window Maker.
wew
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>>59308842
>posting an article from FUCKING 2001
Why are you so desperate to slander Windowmaker? This is pure faggotry. Low fucking effort faggotry too.
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>>59308842
wow what a fag lol
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>>59308880
wmaker hasn't been updated for 2 years.
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>>59309009
>2017-2 = 2011
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>>59309040
the bug he posted was from 2001 lol
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>>59307044
my nigga
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>>59309118
yes it can be riced, or you can leave it plain
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I installed oBSD on an old thinkpad last night along. went really smoothly. I quite like it and it's fucking fast. but I know it's server focused. does anyone actually use this as their primary desktop?
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>>59309165
i use it plain with just a couple dockapps.

i've tried a bunch of wms but i always go back to wmaker.

i just wish i could figure out a image lingering bug which happens sometimes when i leave fullscreen.
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>>59309230
>>59307410
it's X and not WM
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>>59301064
Because there's like 15 million lines of code and nobody reads that shit as long as it works.
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>>59309247
pretty sure it's wmaker's fault, the same issue doesn't happen on fvwm. it happens rarely, most of the time when leaving a fullscreen youtube video.
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>>59309206
Why not? What do you need that's not available on OpenBSD?
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>>59307044
how is it different from a normal environment? ive only used xfcs and openbox.

>>59309206
not sure. it's actually my first *nix install besides mint, which just werked. installed qutebrowser & vim, just need a media player (eg mplayer/mpv) & music player for the netbook as far as I can think. it's actually something I plan to keep in my car with a 3G card.

but I'm looking for a new primary OS I can use across all devices. building a desktop atm and if I had OBSD on it, I do need to be able to adobe CS work and emulate games so either need KVM of W7, or a dual-boot, but that would ruin the benefits of OBSD's security. was considering getting into slackware if obsd couldn't fit those needs.
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HAHAHAHAHA
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how many vulnerabilities does Linux mint have? it is currently my main os
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>>59309569
23
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>>59300718
let me suck on that cock theo
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TempleOS is the ONLY non-compromised operating system
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>>59300820
i never trusted freebsd because they have engaged in sjw koolaid drinking before. always a bad sign considering that shit is a cia psyop to begin with.
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>>59300753
Still safer from normal malware, though.
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>>59309686
Praise Jesus, brother.
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>>59309686
this. fucking CIAniggers are always one step behind
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>>59309686
>>59310325
Indeed
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>>59303401
what are you talking about?

https://www.cvedetails.com/product/14948/Debian-Linux.html?vendor_id=23

>Vulnerabilities 0
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So basically if we want to use computers without being tracked you must:

>Use the most obscure OS that .5 percent of humanity uses
>Don't use search engines only use address bar
>Realize the OS you use is so shitty and barely used that its hard as hell to figure out and when you do figure something out practically nothing is compatible
>Use several VPNs and proxies to the point that your browsing from Uzbekistan that is a proxy VPN from Honduras that is a proxy to the phillipines that is a proxy to Mongolia that connects to you
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>>59310741
Honduas and the Phillipines are 100% part of the USA's dragnet, and Mongolia and Uzbekistan are 100% part of Russia's dragnet
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>>59310489
How do you deal with captcha
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>>59310771
Fucking rekt
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>>59310677
https://www.cvedetails.com/product/36/Debian-Debian-Linux.html?vendor_id=23

Spooky
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>>59300718
It has to werk before it can be exploited.
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>>59300718
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>>59304062
This guy gets it.
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>>59300718
Good goy, use openbsd heeeeheheheheheheee
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>>59307241
It's actually not. Not to mention many of that software actually is not audited by the openbsd team and would void the whole security by audition thing (i.e. the one and only line of defense of openbsd).
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>>59301064
If a piece of software is written in C and is not trivial, then it is guaranteed (100% likelihood) that it is compromised. This merely means that there is at least one way to exploit the software to perform an operation not intended by the software runner (e.g. the server operator).
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>>59310677
That's fake and gay though. If you look at any other distro's page it lists every cve for every software that runs on GNU, yet for debian it only lists debian-specific bugs? Really makes you think.
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>>59301097
OpenBSD has major presence in mail servers and routers dumbfuck
The cost of trying to exploit it is insane, since it's carefully written and audited regularly
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>>59300718
>>59300753
>2 people total use BSD
>l-lol look how safe we are
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See, the only reason why i would use anything other than windows is if
A im coding
OR
B I really want to hide something that i shouldnt have
And im more than sure 90 percent of everyone on this board is not using their pc to code anything worthwhile to be completely honest
sooooo what are you hiding anons
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>>59312547
>since nobody uses it whereas literally everyone uses GNU
FTFY
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>>59309206
The entire OpenBSD team does, usually on Thinkpad's, that's why they're well supported
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>>59312617
It's used a lot in routers and servers, and by governments
Nice try shilling GNU bloat though
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>>59312605
Also general question
If you were going to hide something couldnt you just use a tactic like a bitlocked VHD
and then inside the VHD a pro version of windows with bitlocked folders?
im not smart by any means but it doesnt seem too hard to do that with windows either sooooooo
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>>59300718
t. No software, enjoy your fancy text editor
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>>59312645
Hi, theo the rat.
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>>59312319
C is CIAnigger shit.

Everyone should use the SPARK subset of Ada and take advantage of formal verification of code.
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>>59312319
>>59312754
fuck off Mozilla
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>>59312686
>im not smart by means
You got that right.

Linux may have exploits, but you still have to use the exploit on a target device.
Windows has backdoors put in by the developers.
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I have tried, earnestly, to use BSD before. It's like cutting yourself off from the world and living in a slice, duplicated from an old time.
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>>59313598
No it's not you fucking retard. It's not even hard to get going, and once you have it set up it Just Works.
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>>59310741
>So basically if we want to use computers without being tracked you must:
>Live in montana
>Use a random distribution of proxies like tor if tor wasn't fucked and only selected 1 node for you to push all of your traffic with that entire session
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>>59312754
>Not using Coq
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>>59300857

The trick with OpenBSD is the base system includes nothing, and in order to actually run something, you end up installing ports that are "not part of OpenBSD".

So when nginx on RedHat has a vulnerability, it's a RedHat vulnerability, but when you install nginx on OpenBSD... oh that's just nginx.
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>>59307293
>non-standards
https://specifications.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/wm-spec-1.3.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Window_Manager_Hints
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>>59314681
only if you're a child, or mentally handicapped

if you're an adult with a functioning brain you can just install openbsd

>>59314697
don't be a faggot
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>>59314745
Which body approved these "standards" and in what year?

A free software project's little rules are not a standard until they get together and actually have a convention standardizing something.

Fucking millennials. You don't even know what words mean.
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>>59314758
>REEE, it's not a standard until it's an RFC
>REEE, it's not a standard until it's approved by a "body" (choosen by whom?)

Pretty much every X framework and window managers approved this standard. Freedesktop.org is there to make standards.
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>>59314781
>Pretty much every X framework and window managers approved this standard.
That's fucking bullshit you liar, you meant to say, the KDE and Gnome people rammed this shit up everybody else's ass.

>Freedesktop.org is there to make standards
If they want to make standards they can do so the proper way. They're making rules.
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>>59314801
>KDE and Gnome people rammed this shit up everybody else's ass.
What the fuck is wrong with EWMH?
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>>59314815
You're changing the subject now, LOL! Goalposts, moved.
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>>59314830
You claimed that KDE and Gnome people rammed this shit up everybody else's ass. My counterclaim is the EWMH is actually good and other WMs adopted it because of that.

Anyway, what should be an alternative to EWMH? I don't take "an other standard, which is pretty much the same, but made by some imaginary standard body that's not freedesktop.org" as an argument.
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>>59302360
Only way you can use a non outdated version of GNOME on BSD is if you use funtoo GNOME patches and it is a total hackjob (because of systemd).
So no GNOME, as either you use the insecure hackjob that is funtoo patches, or you use insecure old version of GNOME
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>>59314847
>other standard
there you're using a word incorrectly again

it's not a standard
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>>59314920
What makes a document a "standard" in your definition?
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>>59314920
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Window_Manager_Hints
>Extended Window Manager Hints, a.k.a. NetWM or Net WM,[1] is an X Window System standard for window managers.
Looks like you need to correct this then, let's see if it sticks.
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>>59314923
>What makes a document a "standard" in your definition?
Approved by a duly constituted standards body, just like everybody already agrees.

>>59314955
Nah I'd rather not bother, what's the point? I stopped editing that SJW-infested shithole years ago, when it became clear that it was being maintained and administered in poor faith.
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>>59315000
So what if an X Window System standard were published by a standard body (like The Linux Foundation)? Then they probably would just pick up the EWMH de facto standard and make it a de jure standard with minor modifications, since it is what most WMs and frameworks use anyway and there is no alternative.
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>>59315075
>no alternative
can always choose not to use their meme non-standards
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>>59315105
And there, you have no fullscreen and maximize support for applications that already use EWMH for this.
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>>59315105
>>59315132
I don't understand what you fags are arguing about. What's wrong with Gnome in terms of WM? It seems really polished.
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>>59315161
>What's wrong with Gnome in terms of WM? It seems really polished.
Yeah, it's a polished turd. My only gripe with Gnome is that they maintain GTK too, and it's getting worse and worse.
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>>59315161
>I don't understand what you fags are arguing about. What's wrong with Gnome in terms of WM? It seems really polished.
It's huge and is getting fatter every day.
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>>59314758
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>>59315226
let's bump this thread, it's important

also your inability to make an actual argument is showing
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What is openBDS and why should I use it?
>>
I briefly ran OpenBSD on one of my ThinkPads. I remember it running painfully slow. YouTube videos wouldn't even play smoothly for some reason.
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>>59304062
>>>59301064
>It was an empirical test of the claimed theoretical advantages of the open source model, and the model obviously failed.
Oh, really? That would be why the majority of embedded devices, servers and all supercomputers run Linux?
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>>59314697
You've got that backwards
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>>59315465
the amount of anti-openbsd shilling in this thread is incredible

really makes you think, then install openbsd

clearly the cia niggers are rustled by this security-minded OS
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>>59312304
i guess i must have dreamt up httpd then
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>>59302373
Nice try, FBI
>>
Call me foolish, but I think it might have been at least a little harder for the CIA to attack my PC than some others'. It is an Intel ME-disabled laptop from 2008 with all libre software and firmware sans binary blobs, USB 2.0 atheros wifi, no GPS, webcam, modem, sound card, caps lock light or power button, hardened linux-libre on a fully encrypted including /boot USB 2.0 flash SSD, and does not send packets except for DHCP over any connection or interface except to my fully privately hosted AES-256 end to end encrypted VPN server that, funnily enough, does in fact happen to ignore all ICMP packets, among with many other borderline pedantic network security precautions. It also runs no nonfree javascript or other sneaky nonfree code.

The only piece of nonfree firmware/blob in the entire thing is the microcode Intel installed when creating the CPU chip in 2007, and the inactive physical ME component inside it.

inb4 wifi = haxed tho

I have been trying to figure out since Vault 7 though, whether an exploit for such systems as mine has been revealed (they could also exist as unknown vulnerabilities in things like icecat or other programs, and not yet be known). I haven't seen anything more specific than general "linux zero-day" thrown around though when it comes to external attack vectors.
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>>59312645
>>59312617
Last time I checked OpenBSD uses gcc.
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>>59315973
Even though your software is free it's still compromised
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>>59314686
Coq is overkill, in practice you only need region-based memory management or a GC and you're good to go. Of course using coq/ats/agda/whatever is not overkill for critical security systems though.
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>>59312605
>B I really want to hide something that i shouldnt have And im more than sure 90 percent of everyone on this board is not using their pc to code anything worthwhile to be completely honest sooooo what are you hiding anons

I'm hiding the movie I made when I fucked that dumb whore mother of yours, not because it's illegal or anything but if it ever leaks I put my cock in something so fucking disgusting and putrid, I'll never be able to show my face in public again.
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>>59315888
Not sure if retarded or merely preten-
>openplacebotard
oh
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>>59307163
I just feel sad for you desu
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>>59301097
The reason templeos isn't on there is because you can't propagate or phone home without a network stack.
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>>59316304
Why would you?
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>>59314686
>coq
>coqdoc
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>>59312605
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>>59314697
openbsd comes with httpd in base retard
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>>59316373
>SJW complaining about totalitarian methods
>women and gay rights are somehow a good thing

SJWs are the biggest fascists on the face of the earth.
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>>59316466
OK inbred.
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>>59316476
I didn't write it, replace the libshit with politically incorrect speech.
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>>59300881
i lel'd
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>>59316542
you're abviously fucking stupid. no one installs nginx on OpenBSD because it shipped with it for years before being replaced by httpd which means still no one installs it
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>>59300881
oh you must be referencing your magical fairy statistics
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>>59316568
Do you remove part of your brain every day or were you born without one?
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>>59300718
>BSDcuck
>>
dickers cunt shit ass fuck
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>>59312605
bait but anyone that thinks this is better off dead
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>>59316586
you're a fucking shitposter extraordinaire. congratulations and go fuck yourself.
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