WHERE ARE ALL THE AM4 MOTHERBOARDS REEEEEEEE

>>59292822
What's special about Taichi over the other X370 boards? Just higher memory clocks? Is it worth extra ~$50?

>>59292897
taichi has 16 phases vrm.
msi titanium supposedly used super premium chokes (heard it en passant from some youtuber but I went to check it out and couldnt find the exact specs), I noticed it has less phases though, but couldn't count them under the upper heatsink.
the aorus and the taichi are pretty reasonably priced, imho, they're on par wwith the z270 mid-high end (apart from the ridiculous rog extreme, gaming 9, which are kinda on they're own league).

>>59293108
So in practice would they actually give headroom for 100mhz+ higher clock speeds at lower temps under liquid cooling, or is it mostly just marketing BS?

>>59292822
Isn't Ryzen for servers and shit? Maybe try SuperMicro?

>>59293224
definentely, if the chip can handle the OC. The taichi is rated for 300w, the crosshair and the aorus are also well overprovisioned, but not sure by how much. Should be easy to find out though.

this case it's not a marketing gimmick. Quality chokes and circuit layout really should be everyone's primary concern when picking their mobos.

>>59293224
>higher clock speeds at lower temps under liquid cooling,
actually, the temps should be unrelated. The case here is if the mobo can deliver enough juice at stable rates. The chip itself defines the other variants (a golden chip would clock higher at lower voltages, thus producing less heat).

>>59293486
temps are unrelated.. well, to the cpu or the OC headroom itself, say, e.g., even if the circuit design provides enough phases but the manufacturer skimped out on the components themselves, like msi and gigabyte did (sub 2010, they mended their ways since) then, under a heavy OC your shitty chokes or regs rated for 60A at 100ºC would probably became unstable and either burn in smoke or at least compromise your golden chip OC, while dumping unnecessary excess onto your system.

>>59293594
*excess heat

I can't decide between the Asrock Taichi and the Asus Prime X370 Pro. The 3200 memory support on the Taichi is really attractive, so I'll leaning towards it.

Maybe I'll just wait two months and see how things are once the market matured a bit.

I have a bunch of spare parts lying around. I just want a $50 ITX AM4 board and like a cheap Ryzen APU. Idk what I'd do with it, but I'd have it. Maybe install Temple OS on it for shits and giggles?

>>59293660
>Idk what I'd do with it
nas server with ecc mem on the cheap.
pfsense router with ecc on the cheap.

>>59293660
4 port nic, pfsense, fileserver, plex/kodi/samba/whateverelse

>>59293731
I think if I actually do go through with it, I'd give it to my brother. He's a poorfag using an almost 10 year old Macbook. My parents also have an extra monitor sitting in a closet they would probably let him have, so it'd cost like ~$150 in total (just need a CPU, motherboard, and ram).

>>59293625
Asus will certainly come around and fix their issues asap, but right now the Crosshair vi seems to be unreliable. I've heard nothing but praises for the Taichi and Aorus mobos so far. I'm leaning towards the Taichi myself. Both of them are basically the same price (~195usd)

Look at the companies individual websites, they have premium AM4 boards they haven't even released yet on a lot of then.

Obviously these piece of shit mobo companies didn't have a lot of faith in AMD.

>>59293962
I'm really hoping for a good micro atx x370.

>>59294080

The best matx I have seen is a B350 from MSI.

That's how deplorable motherboard selection is for Ryzen.

>>59293883
I myself have the availability notification turned on on Newegg for the Gigabyte AX370 Gaming K7 that supposedly launches tomorrow. Going to pretty much try to buy it whenever it launches.

For what it's worth, I was at Microcenter buying my Ryzen and one of the sales reps told me as I was checking out that they had an Asus Crosshair 6 Hero with a chip running at 4.2 GHz (though, not sure what actual chip, assuming a 1700) - Though two things:
1) He hadn't actually tested it fully but did get it running
2) He was using a beta BIOS that I guess Microcenter got ahold of through a partnership or something.

Take it with a grain of salt but the fact that a Zen box is even POSTing over 4.1 is good news to me.

>>59294391
4.2 would be exceptional for a 1700, but only mildly interesting for a 1800x

Kind of important which chip...

>>59294463
Well that's what I thought, that regardless it was mildly interesting since the best I've heard so far for an 1800X was 4.1 up to that point.

>>59294339

That's the one to get. The Aorus 5 seems to be the best one to get at launch.

>>59294339
>Gaming k7
k4, k7 is Asrock's nomenclature. is there a new killer series board to launched or a new gaming 7 from gigabyte? would be nice if these vendors went all the way up their lines for Ryzen, Gigagbyte (gaming 5-7-9), asrock up to 9 as well, and the various possible ROG's.

MSI is the only vendor which has a comparable flagship for both z270 and am4, on the Titanium version.

>>59294160
Nice to hear, because that's what I ordered.

>>59294546
I was about to summarize Asrock's nomenclature, but damn, that's a big selection. http://www.asrock.com/mb/#1151

What's the difference between these two boards?
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/38104/gigabyte-aorus-ax370-gaming-k7-motherboard

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/38102/gigabyte-aorus-ax370-gaming-5-motherboard

Also, should I go with gigabyte or Asus? I plan on keeping this thing for at least 3 years.

>>59294546

Some ass hole is trying to sell the X370 titanium for 300 dollars on new egg.

>>59294546
Taichi and fatality are about the same with different color scheme.
I just wanted to go ryzen but currently memory frequency is shit and oc non existent.

>>59294672
Flare X 3200 C14 is coming out this month, it's designed for RyZen.

>>59292897
It has a cool weeaboo name.

>>59294339
nvm, it's indeed k7 from gigabyte
http://www.gigabyte.eu/Motherboard/GA-AX370-Gaming-K7-rev-10#kf

going through the specs, didn't catch the differences yet.

>>59293108
WHAT ABOUT THE ASUS ROG?

>>59294391
The beta bios is on their website

>>59293337
it's an all rounder

>>59294617
>>59294339
killer nic and creative sound blaster are making the sale harder for me.

that why I prefer the taichi over the killers/pro any day >>59294672

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>>59292822
>Finally have CPU and Motherboard
>AIO liquid cooler isn't AM4 compatible
>Upgrade kit for this model isn't available yet

Cooler Master misled me.

>>59294829
Yeah fuck creative sound blaster.

>>59294829
Man I never ever use onboard audio. Dedicated audio cards always pay up.

Killer network otherwise, pure garbage.

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The biggest advantage that the gigabyte boards have over every other vendors is that they're covering all of the pci slots with that gimmicky shield.

Those motherfuckers leaving one slot unshielded are triggering my autism real hard, I don't care how superior their product might, I can't buy those boards under any circusmtance. The simple fact that they're doing is enough to make me loose my sleep, if I were to buy one of them I'd have a mental breakdown in no time.

>>59294932
I replaced a case fan with an old power supply fan and zip tied it in place. The idea of it being there is surprisingly infuriating.

>>59294911
>sound card
Unless you're spending thousands in studio tier sound cards then I really don't see the advantage. What do you use?

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>>59294849
Corsair hasn't sent mine either
Hopefully zip-ties wont fuck up my motherboard

>>59294617
wtf, the only difference I caught is the higher mem OC on the k7; 3600 vs 3200 for the gaming 5.

and the gaming has the white variant.

do I need anything extra to use the AM3+ cooler mount on the asus ROG crosshair?

or does it come with AM3+ cooling brackets like it does the AM4?

Stores near me is only selling gigaybyte and msi

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
where are the god tier amd boards companies like asus and assrock ?

bought a asus b350m-a
It's a matx mobo in a atx case, no fucks given
Great so far, only 1 4pin fan connector tho, that's the only con.

Which R7 did you buy? I was thinking of getting a 1700 and try a good OC with a huge Noctua cooler or an AIO water cooler, but I think I should go with the 1800x just in case I get really screwed with the 1700.

>>59294932
holy sheeeet.
this is intel's next level shilling. The z270 Titanium has all the pci slots covered, whilst the am4 has one left uncovered.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Z270-XPOWER-GAMING-TITANIUM.html#productFeature-section

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/X370-XPOWER-GAMING-TITANIUM.html#productFeature-section

>>59295167
The 1700 is stable at 3.8-3.9 the 1800x can get to 4.2

You have to decide if a third of a MHz is worth $150

>>59295181
g-guys, I'll have to buy kaby lake now.
I've a flaming AMD fanboy my entire life, but intel finally hit me where it hurts; right in the autism.

i-I can't even..

>>59295181
they got Asrock as well.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z270%20Taichi/index.asp

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X370%20Taichi/index.asp

fuck this gay earth.

>>59295265
It's All A Plot Against You Anon, Soon Even Your Memes Won't Console You.

>>59295298
scrap that. The Taichi z270 has a 4th pci slot stealthily left uncovered. So, it's shit on both chipsets.

It's not a shill job, they're simply faggot cia niggers of a company.

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>>59292822
right here in my hand

>>59292822
When the fuck is this board gonna come out? Is AMD telling vendors to hold them back?

>>59295167
>>59295167
I have a 1700x, it's a good mix.
But after experiencing myself how much better overclocking on the fly with ryzen master is, I'd say 1700 is as good or better.

>>59295265
>>59295298
>>59295181
>>59294932
I just praise based god every day that I am not this autistic.

Anyway, going to use my old case and assorted spare parts to put together a 1700 build once the BIOS stuff is sorted out. Will use it for network storage and dedicated streaming.

>>59295395
Seems like overkill for your use...

>>59295512
Yeah something like a i3 or the new 4c/4t ryzens would be perfect

>>59295512
>>59295527
Encoding at the quality and bitrate I want is pretty murderous on CPUs.

>>59294829
What's wrong with killer NIC? I honestly don't know, never used one.

>>59295553
Oh what kind of streaming are we talking?
But yeah then it's PERFECT.

>>59293337
It didn't do as well at unpatched benchmarks at 720P....

At 1080P a 1700 was pretty much in par with a 7700K, even without it being patched and all the windows issues.

>>59295593
1080p CPU benchmarking in games is irrelevant. At 1080p most modern titles are bottlenecked by the GPU. You might very well get the same frames with a bulldozer chip
(Which btw makes you realize how irrelevant the processor is in gaming these days)

Will Zen 4 cores be failed 8 cores or are they selling smaller silicon, i.e. one full module?

>>59295737
We don't know, it's H2 2017 so it can be either of those.

>>59295591
Just some twitch streaming. I'd love to crunch the encodes down to the slow preset on x264 through OBS at something like 2500 kbps. That's murder on my 5820k right now while I'm using it for anything. The veryfast/fast presets that I can use at 720p/60fps just look too blurry, even at 3500 kbps.

>>59294849

>use a corsair h45
>not compatible officially
>no upgrade kit

FUCK YOU, CORSAIR!

>>59295706
Some make the argument that low res benchmarks will reflect performance of games in the future, eg. that while ryzen being behind the 7700k in games now doesnt matter, but it will eventually, before the i7.

Looking at the history this hasnt been the case though, the FX cpus acctually improved with time enough that they last as long as sandy bridge for gaming, while being behind a lot at release.

With consoles being 8c, and ryzen now making 8c cpus more popular this will only continue. Devs are forced to adapt.

Accepting that, low res benchmarks are indeed irrelevant.

>>59295737
Does it matter?

>>59295830
>FX cpus acctually improved with time
Correction, game devs paralellized more.

>>59294758
yeah what's the difference between this and the gaming 5 anyway? Just the rice plastic color?

>>59295830
What are you even saying nigger. If you are running a game benchmark at a resolution and graphics configuration which makes the GPU run at 99% usage you are not benchmarking the CPU as it is getting bottle necked to shit. There are seperate CPU benchmarking programs for a reason.

>>59295948
>If you are running a game benchmark at a resolution and graphics configuration which makes the GPU run at 99% usage you are not benchmarking the CPU as it is getting bottle necked to shit

Well you're showing that the best GPUs on the market isnt bottlenecked by the cpu. It would be bottlenecked by a low end cpu especially at 1080p.
But yes, I know. What's your point?

>>59293108
MSI and Asus have shitty BIOS. Unless you want to rely on them fixing your shit then Gigabyte is the best option right now.

Not enough info on the AsRock really but they're so hit and miss. Don't fall for their spec meme. Real world it's meaningless.

>>59296012
People seem to like the Taichi

>>59294391
The micro center I work at had an 1800X at 4.2.

Now, they are also a bunch of idiots that didn't know how to properly mess with vcore, so I'm willing to bet if they gave me a bit of time I could have coaxed it a bit higher.

Cooled by an H110i on an Asus Crosshair VI

>>59292897
x10 sata - will work perfectly as a plex server / video encoder + gaming machine for me at least. Been running a few other asrock boards since 2011 and i've been very happy with their longevity and features/price ratio. waiting on this and a new bracket for my water cooling setup to be back in stock so i can upgrade.

>>59294391
Why would you assume it's a 1700? No 1700 has gotten that yet confirmed.

http://valid.x86.fr/top-cpu/414d442052797a656e203720313730302045696768742d436f72652050726f636573736f72

It's most likely the 1800X

http://valid.x86.fr/top-cpu/414d442052797a656e20372031383030582045696768742d436f72652050726f636573736f72

But most are running at 1.5v+ which is dumb for actual use

>>59294829
No idea about the killer NIC, there's two so if it gives me issues I'll just use the Intel which should be fine.

>>59294932
I don't like how they put the m.2 slot under the graphics card though

>>59295892
The K7 has an additional clock generator so you can fine adjust the BLCK, it's the only board that has it. How useful it will actually be I'll leave for people more knowledgeable to answer.

I just emailed Asus about my B350 Prime mobo not using XMP memory settings. I asked them how to force the setting to be used.

Beyond that I'm really enjoying my 1700x, all core OC to 3.75 at 1.375v. Temps are weird though. My H100i is reporting liquid temps in the 20's, but the chip/mobo is reporting 50's. I'm a bit at a loss.

>>59296563
From what I've heard the temperature sensors are completely fucked on the chip itself. Obviously the mobo reporting temp is the more accurate one in your case.

>>59296563
Temp readings seemed to be fucked. Gigabyte released an update that makes it work. Not sure how other brands are doing. Right now Gigabyte seems to be ahead of the game on updates. Still debating on the K5/K7 or VI Hero.

>>59296583
the mobo is reporting 50c idle in bios. I'm pretty sure the mobo is reading directly from the chip. I'm trusting the corsair link temp atm.

>>59296624
Yeah 50c at idle doesn't make much sense either then.

>>59296563
Why so much voltage? At least keep it under 1.35?

Im running mine at 1.25 @ 3.8ghz
That's not really a overclock if you ask me, it's winin the normal boost freq.

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>>59292822
MAKE SURE THAT YOUR MOBO HAS AN EXTERNAL CLOCK GENERATOR IF YOU WANT TO CLOCK YOUR RAM ABOVE 2667 mHz

you have been WARNED. It won't work otherwise

>>59296800
That was only certain boards. Can't remember if that's being patched or what not.
Vid only related to thread, couldn't find what I was looking for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylvdSnEbL50

>>59296987
I mean that the ryzen cpu has a shoddy IC built into the chip, and that without an external one you're not going to get a stable overclock on your RAM

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>>59297116
>has a shoddy IC built into the chip

>>59296800
What boards have one? Only one is the Gigabyte AX370-Gaming K7 isn't it?

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>>59297153
>>has a shoddy IC built into the chip
well, maybe not shoddy, but not optimized for high speed and low timings

don't take it from me, hair-autist is pretty much who I'm getting this from
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frw9HRwqODk

also, revise my original post
>>59296800
not 2667, 3200. You can't get past 3200

>>59297257
the taichi has one as well. and their pro gaming one? Buildzoid (hairautist) goes into it in the video above

Is any Ryzen going to be a worthwhile upgrade to an 8350?

Why the fuck is DDR4 so expensive? When I built my 2500k rig in 2013 8gb of DDR3 cost me $50.
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/33135/corsair-vengeance-lpx-cmk16gx4m2b3200c16-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-black

>>59297489
phones

it's a fucking travesty but they all use DDR4 now.

>>59297502
Fuck them man. Why couldn't people be happy with dumb phones.
Seriously, this shouldn't be more than $100.

>>59297543
It doesn't help that one of the main manufacturers of the best RAM IC's is fucking SAMSUNG

PAIN

AND SUFFERING

ABOUND

>>59297489
I bought 32GB for $130 just 6 months ago. It got stupid real quick.

Just picked up the last asrock x370 fatality pro gaming from microcenter today 199.

>>59297502
How does that work? Supply and Demand or something more?

>>59297624
Yes, and don't expect it to get any better. It'll only get worse until maybe october.

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Is it bad I want the Crossfire VI Hero just because it's the only board that doesn't clutter the I/O with stupid shit that will NEVER be used like PS/2 and video ports. I just don't understand why they're putting this shit on flagships, especially when the APUs are months away. Asus fix you're fucking BIOS fuck

>>59297958
not really, I saw it had no stupid dvi and hdmi on fucking cpus that don't even have igpu and was like oh hey, a real motherboard.

>>59297958
ps2 is useful when troubleshooting a computer .
other than that it's useless, but if your usb ports are not working during bios load you will be very happy your ps2 port exists .

>>59297996
If your ports aren't working then what good is getting into the BIOS going to do? You can already reflash or swap BIOS on most motherboards without doing so anyway. It's either RMA or reflash.

>>59297958
>no ps/2
>no lower latency n-key rollever keyboards

why the fuck wouldn't they put that in I swear by that shit

>>59293625
the problem I am having is I want 64GB of ram and fast ram

>>59295395
I have autism (the real kind) and the pci slots being different doesn't bother me.

>>59298181
It's more OCD than autism

>>59298220
Yeah, but my autism won't let me not point out that these things people say are autistic aren't actually autistic.

>>59296624
>>59296667
If that's with overclocks and in bios (keeps processor at P0) then that's fine. My 1700x hasn't been overclocked yet and at idle is around room temperature. Then again my mobo hasn't arrived yet, maybe on Friday

All I want is 2 m.2 slots and no video out

>>59294932
and them have sound blaster music procesor

>>59298375
See
>>59297592

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>>59295363
>unironically buying anus hardware

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>>59297285
>Actually Hardcore Overclocking
Patrician taste

>only one matx board with spdif
>it's also lacking rear usb io
I really JUSTed myself with memes.

>>59298441
I think he wants two M.2. PCI-e slots though. The AsRock is the same as the Crossfire VI Hero and the second M.2. is just SATA for the Wi-Fi card, except Asus was a bunch of jews and decided not to include it on their $250 board and make you buy it separate. Fucking cunts.

>>59298500
Isn't the 2nd m.2 slot on taichi just pcie 2.0 4x?

>>59298555
That is correct.

>>59298459
the man is an evil genius

>>59298499
>tfw the AM4 mobo market is trash right now

I want to die a slow death. That and I'm waiting on my bracket from noctua. EVERYTHING ELSE is here except a mobo and my bracket. TEN TO EIGHTEEN BUSINESS DAYS, GOD DAMNIT

>>59298555
Yeah I guess you're right, I was looking at the wrong board.

>>59298589
I'm still waiting on some brackets I asked for on the 10th of February. Enjoy the wait.

>>59298619
just gas me, man. Should I just order the fucking thing off amazon? it's 8 dollars

>>59298638
If you want it any time soon yeah. I'm just glad I didn't sell my H100i just yet so I can use that in the meantime.

>>59298655
>TFW the only other cooler I own is an intel stock cooler

I'm going to die

>>59298689
Get out those zip ties lol

>>59298689
Why didn't you buy a 1700? It OCs 100Mhz shy of a 1800X anyway.

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>>59298717
>Why didn't you buy a 1700? It OCs 100Mhz shy of a 1800X anyway.
because I'm retarded. Have you figured this out yet?
>>59298706
I'm just going to tape a metal brick to it. I deserve this pain

>>59295087
hard to tell, nobody properly tested how backplate pushes there

technicaly you can screw it in

>>59298689
the only reason i'm considering 1700 over 1700x is included cooler
it's pain to get newest peripherals here

>>59298717
>It OCs 100Mhz shy of a 1800X anyway.
Anons ITT say otherwise. 1700 really is the most sane buy, but I'm a retard and want the 1800x in case I get fucked by the silicon lottery.

>>59299243

Ryzen 7 1700
93% reach 3.8GHz @ 1.376V
70% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.408V
20% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.440V

Ryzen 7 1700X
100% reach 3.8GHz @ 1.360V
77% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.392V
33% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.424V

Ryzen 7 1800X
100% reach 3.8GHz (assumed)
97% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.376V
67% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.408V
20% reach 4.1GHz @ 1.440V

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>>59299253
I would definitely lose my shit if I didn't get at least 4GHz.

>>59294160
That's the one I was considering.

But I have a question: Do the X370 allow for stability at lower voltages somehow or is it purely about the headroom?

I don't care about pushing 300w into the CPU. But if I can get 3.9 all-core on a lower voltage because the current is more stable, well that's good.

All the boards currently seem to be really overvolting a bit more than the cpu needs.

>>59297454
Uh, yeah?
Even the 4c/8t will probably be better in most games.

>>59297958
I agree about the no video but no PS/2 ??? They could have moved the top bottoms down and fit a PS/2 there.

I do like the M.2 hidden there, too.

>>59295363
Enjoy your bricked Motherboard in a few days.

Geez, I thought Asus is the best motherboard manufacturer. Maybe Gigabyte and Asrock should step up? None of that MSI shit.

>>59297489
It's going to get worse until we hit October 2017. Buy DDR4 RAM on Holiday season.

>tfw found out there's a micro center near me
Which of the board manufacturers are the best to buy for am4?

>>59299722
b350 prime at stock is actually pretty decent, it sucks a bit at OC for now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUYTdgoRA7k
here are comparisons with 1800x to gigabyte top board

>Buying any other AM4 motherboard than Crosshair

Enjoy being limited to low-speed RAM because they lack an external clock-generator.

>>59299881
Shit so the b350 prime will greatly overvolt what you put it at, but the Gigabyte Auros will respect it? That shit is dumb.

>>59299904
Gigabyte and AsRock both have boards with one. The VI is unreliable as fuck with people getting DoA boards or getting bricked soon after getting it. For a flagship Asus is fucking up pretty hard.

>>59300545
worst vendor is suddenly best vendor,
ryzen sure threw us all into bizarro world

>>59292897
It doesn't look like shit.

>>59300648
That gear decal looks pretty dumb desu famalamb

>>59300661
All the other ones are worse.

>>59300757
Plenty of others look a lot less tacky once you turn off the LEDs

>>59293108

It has extra VRM-VRM! that makes the games go SUPER FAST!

>>59292822
Give it time it'll be back in a few days.

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Slowpoke here, what the fuck is up with memory prices? Just last year, I could get a 32GB kit for $100. Fuck.

>>59295104
>where are the god tier amd boards companies like asus and assrock ?
>asus
>god tier
lmao

>>59293625
Asus updated the board's spec.
>4 x DIMM, Max. 64GB, DDR4 3200(O.C.)/2933(O.C.)/2666/2400/2133 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory

>>59293337
No Naples is for servers, 32 core

>>59303510
Smartphones are eating up all the supply.

>>59296583
>I've heard the temperature sensors are completely fucked on the chip itself.

this is probably yet another bios issue

>>59297502
phones, price fixing, and samsung refusing to increase production capacity to keep artificial supply constraints - they certainly have the dosh, the capacity and even the need to increase production capacity, but they simply don't because they are making even more dosh as things stand right now.

And this will also influence next gen mem prices, since we'll already quite used to being raped like this when they launch, and I very much doubt hynix and micron will develop the urge to break off the price fixing schemes by then.

>>59297958
>ps2 is useless

you're underage is showing anon.

boy that motherboard is ugly as fuck

>>59299243
I myself want the top end model, that's all.
I know very well it's not the best bang for the buck but i'm not shy to admit my shallow reasoning.

>>59294160
>>59294595
>>59299438
>The best matx I have seen is a B350 from MSI
may i know why? i have an eye for it just because it is the cheapest board that have SPDIF output.

>>59304824

The only thing underage about me is my shota sex slave.

>>59293660
itx board with good features up to 100~
Six core Ryzen up to 200 ~
Im set

>>59303670
Hm... G.skill released Flare X RAM for Ryzen, but only the lower speeds are available, and only on Newegg. I wonder if they're running into problems with the higher clocks.

I want that 3200 C14 RAM.

>>59305340
>gskill flare x
why is it SO fucking ugly

>>59305351
I know. If it wasn't painted in garish colors (better thermal conductivity with no paint) the stickers weren't gay and it had less ninja edges on it I would be more excited.

If the do release the 3200 C14 RAM and its certified to work with Ryzen I may just end up buying it anyway, despite how ugly it is. No window on my case, and I hate the RGB fad, but still...

>>59305411
corsair lpx (black) is perfect and werks on am4.

>>59305502
>corsair lpx (black) is perfect and werks on am4.
it MAY work on AM4. If it's on the native multiplier. AFAIK it doesn't run samsung B-die so it might not have a stable clock on the AM4 platform

>>59292822
advice to anyone buying mobos
don't buy from ASUS
my ASUS X99 mobo has been getting worse with every BIOS update
auto voltage is completely fucked up, it just automatically ups it to 1.5V when you have any other than stock settings
had to revert to default BIOS because that's somehow the best BIOS there is...

>>59305574
>it may
it's the best bet thus far.

>>59294770
kek

>>59305640
Where did you see this? Not doubting you, I just want to read up on it myself

>>59305574
you got me curious, I'm trying to search for the lpx 3600 4x8gb c18 but I found that the led version has samsung IC's ( http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7832/corsair-vengeance-led-ddr4-3200-32gb-ram-kit-review/index.html )

>>59305811
that's what I noticed too. The 2015 lpx black does NOT have samsung IC's. The LEDs and corsair dominator platinums do. Also g.skill trident X.

>>59305831
>>59305811
meant Trident Z series

>>59305733
no hard evidence, but I noticed several reviewers switching to corsair to corsair lpx kits when trying to troubleshoot their reviews. You can verify that a lot of them ended up using those kits for their first Ryzen review videos.

>>59305831
>The 2015 lpx black does NOT have samsung IC's.

can you point out a source for that. I'll sttle forforum users. Can't find lpx 3600 under quotes. That 3200 vengeance led is still the closest match.

>>59305919
It took me looking up heatsink removal guides and identifying the actual IC's on the lpx sticks. They didn't have B-die, at least the 3000 hz version.

>amazon only getting 10 Crosshairs in this month
>only getting 100 in April

You're basically not getting one, might as well cancel your pre order

>>59294339

That's the WORST location for their M.2 slot. Right next to and a hot ass GPU blowing its hot air all over my already hot ass ssd.

>>59305961
>air

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/71362-corsair-vengeance-lpx-ddr4-4000-8gb-review-2.html

the lpx 4000 have samsung E-die.
the 3600 are probably scaled down.
(well, at least the directly slower speeds (on a different model though) are using samsung IC's and the directly above also are. It's not impossible for my kit to be using hynix, but it would be a bit counter-intuitive, and I would definentely reeeeeeeeeeee real hard.

>>59299253

source?

found it, kinda
http://www.reviewstudio.net/2445-corsair-vengeance-lpx-32gb-ddr4-3600c16-review-everything-you-need

mine are c18... NOW I would reeeeeee till the universe implodes if my kits aren't on those IC's.

>>59305961
As long as the air is colder than the SSD, the SSD will run colder than it normally would due to the additional airflow.

The air blown by the graphics cards fans will probably be colder than the SSD will operate at. You could also stick a small heatsink or heatspreader on the SSD.

>>59306014
https://siliconlottery.com/

it's in the product description for each one, I think the test was with around 30 each

>>59306023
>>59306023
found my sku on that review.
CMK32GX4M4B3600C18

samsund b-die it is.

>>59305974

The shit we breath.

>>59306027

Probably true for most instances as I hardly game anyway. But still... there are better locations they could have placed that slot and I ain't gonna get me a heatshield (which I hear doesn't really help in all cases)

>>59293108
>msi titanium supposedly used super premium chokes

how much does this even matter. 99% of the time a power delivery system fails it seems like the MOSFETs self-immolating or a bootleg capacitor spilling its electrolyte guts.

>>59292897
It have clock generator. If there is Zen 2 with some clocking improvements taichi, asus c6h and that top MSI will clock the most because of this. It have great power delivery better than anything in its class. It have sturdy pci-e slots, it have plenty of satas, and great lan card. It is cheaper than most top tier mobos yer delivers all the reasonable extra+more for 100$ less.

TL;DR
out of the top AM4 mobos at this time this one is the cheapes and yet have the best extras. If I have to choose what extra to add or remove on top tier mobo, I will make 99% what taichi is (aside from the color scheme I prefer stealth black and don't care about rgb shit)

>>59305959
>preordering ever
I mean, I will eventually buy it, but being on day 0 is pretty dumb.

Just bought my RAM at local MC today. 16 gigs of Corsair LPX 3200 with 2x8 kit. Now I just need my board and an AM4 bracket for my Cryorig R1U which I already sent in for. Those supposedly arent shipping till the 20th.

Newegg said the Gigabyte AX370 Gaming 7 was supposed to drop today but I never got an email notifying me and it went instantly out of stock.

>>59294849
Just buy the shitty Thermaltake air cooler for 30 dollars and wait for the AIO adapter.

>>59294911
you work for a sound card company. we all know they are a meme

>>59292822
There's nothing they can do when AMD isn't producing enough sockets.

>>59292822
i'm fucking waiting for the shipping confirmation email from ncix of my aorus gygabite...it's been 6 days since the payment have been done and no sign of shipment. I'm quite pissed

>>59309565
Good luck getting the ram to work at 3200 some people have been able and some haven't. That mobo has its own clock so you should be fine

>>59305959
Where have you gotten this information?

>>59292897
I believe its the cheapest board with external BCLK

Are any of the matx boards actually descent?
Currently i have the asrock ab350m on order because it sounded good with 9 phase vrm's but it seems that 6 of those are for the cpu, and even those are doubles so 3 "real" phases.

It doesn't sound that good anymore, but to me it seems that eevery matx boards is thrash.

>>59303510
Just wait and watch for sales.

I got 32GB from Newegg for $135 2 weeks ago. It was $30 off from $180, and another $15 off with a newsletter coupon code.

It's not great quality. G.Skill Aegis CL15 2133. But maybe I'll get lucky and it can overclock a bit. Either way, I needed capacity more than speed.

>>59305351
>>59305411
You can generally remove the heatsinks, though it may take effort.

>>59292822
Does the Taichi have the RAM clock issues that other boards do? If I bought 3000 MHz RAM, could I expect it to work with the board?

Also, has anyone heard about the quality of the Killer SLI/ac boards for overclocking?

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I've had my Ryzen CPU for a fucking whole week now, plus the rest of my parts. But the one thing I still don't have is the fucking motherboard I preordered. Damnation of Kek, where is my board?

The taichi looks like one of the better boards by why in the FUCK did they gimp one of the m.2 slots to pcie 2.0?

>>59307955

you are shilling hard.

sell me on the Taichi vs AssRocks Fatal1ty. The only difference is the AQUANTIA® 5 Gigabit LAN, right? Is that worth it?

>>59310963
Yeah, same man. I preordered, got everything delivered for pickup at the NCIX parts location. But no motherboard yet. Really mad. Not at NCIX, but I have a feeling the motherboard vendors dropped the ball on having enough boards made, they didn't think Ryzen would be as popular as it is because of AMD's past market performance.

>>59312864

also, why isn't Gigabyte's dual bios more loved round these parts, especially if you are gonna OC, or potentially do weird shit like disabling cores?

does anyone else have a similiar double-bios setting?

>>59312865
>they didn't think Ryzen would be as popular as it is because of AMD's past market performance.
Especially if they listened to intel's 'advice' on how many boards they should make

>>59310963
gosh, you burgers are so apoiled. try waiting 2-3 months for your parts for once, or worse, having them stuck at the customs office for no apparent reason for 3 months or more.

(*and paying 200% taxes upon YOUR msrp)

>>59312857
because one of the m2 slots go directly into the cpu (physically through lanes and logically through the uefi). The other one is through the chipset (sharing passtrough with the other assorted peripherals).

>>59312906
I'm between the taichi and aorus (k7 - better mem support). Can't make up my mind because the dual bios will be hardly used, but whence you need it it's a godsend. Taichi seems less gimmicky and better overall though, but that doesn't mean that the aorus is too far behind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjGWqTFultI

didn't like that reviw very much, kinda unfocused, but it's Wendell. So it's definentely not bad, afterall.

>>59312864
fatalities all have killer nics, creative sound shits, and balck/red color scheme. Those are detriments to a motherboard, not selling points.

taichi is clearly better and cheaper.

>>59295948
Are you suggesting that modern gpus have trouble with lower resolutions such as 1080p?

Gigabyte 990FXA AM4 version when? I have serious trust issues with anything gaming related on its name.

>>59297958
>NEVER be used like PS/2
I haven't used USB ports in over a month, since I used a flash drive. And before that, hadn't used them probably for a whole year.
PS/2 is pretty good for both mice and keyboards.

>>59294770
>Has more led strips connectors than power phases

What did you really expect?

>>59312906
have they added some way of manually forcing it to boot from the backup bios?

I was downgrading the AHCI rom (needed the extra free mem that the ligher older version gave me to make the boot rom of an old Promise HBA happy) on a AM3 gigabyte board once, and screwed up.

it wouldn't post at all and since the checksum for the bios image itself was still correct it wouldn't use the backup bios chip until I physically bridged pins to make it misread data while initializing

lucky I had written down the info on the flash chip so I could find its datasheet..

>>59313518
There's some switches on the board that let you choose

https://youtu.be/oUYTdgoRA7k?t=337

>>59313610
neat

older GA mobos didn't have the swithes, it was just
>if the computed bios checksum doesn't match the embedded bios checksum (written by cbrom at creation time) then automatically boot from the 2nd bios chip

>>59313175

what the hell is wrong with killer nics, and creative sound>purity.

>>59292822
>WHERE ARE ALL THE AM4 MOTHERBOARDS

Same place as the MIA Ryzen boards lol

>>59313913
>and creative sound>purity.
drivers, it's been 20 eyars their sound drivers still suck

don't think anyone can tell difference between killer and intel NIC though for day to day use

>>59314065
sir

>>59311733
That's what I'm banking on, but either way the latency was not too bad even if I do have to downclock it so that might be the saving grace.

It wasn't explicitly on the QVL but there are other 3200 sticks, other LPX sticks, and other identically timed sticks on there under the 3200 modules so I am hopeful.

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Apparently Ryzen scales super well with RAM speed.

This guy got his RAM to 3700 CL 12-11-11 and is getting more than a 5% higher score on Cinebench than others with a 4.1ghz Ryzen 7.

Apparently changing the base clock changes the frequency the whole interconnect works at. And while although past like 105-107mhz it will downgrade PCIe 3.0 to 2.0 speeds, it speeds up the cache and stuff.

>>59317052
>dram voltage 1.9
Holy shiet
Did he watercooled it?

Why no card with pci and without sound or picture outputs?

>>59295583
>>59294829
>>59294911
There's nothing technically wrong with a killer NIC. They perform just fine.

They get a bad rap because they're overpriced (totally true).

If they were 100% free I would use them.

/g/ is retarded though so they think overpriced = bad performance.

If the cost of a killer NIC on the board is negligible, there is no reason to not get the board. If you're paying an extra $25 or some shit for it though vs an equivalent board without it, move on.

>>59318121
Probably not. But probably not voltage you'd want to keep at for a while without active cooling (whether getting good heatsinks and air over them, or water cooling)

1.9 is fine for short stints, though.

>>59318585
I'm more afraid of Intel having some built in spyware in its fucking ethernet port, somehow.

getting 1700 in the summer ish, amd is /ourguy/
>99% of /g/ makes 6 figures writing kernels
>99% of /g/ are hardcore content creators
will really seperate the /v/ children from the people that want to get shit done.

opinions on this board?
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/PRIME-B350-PLUS/
I've got an asus pci sound card

>>59319771
Should be fine in theory, if you don't plan on overclocking to much. It only has a 4+2 vrm setup, so a 1700 65 watt cpu should fit the bill in that build, if you want to build now, or wait for one of the lower wattage 6 or 4 core models in the upcoming months.