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Ryzen Frame Times

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Ryzen has good frame times they said...
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>>59292228
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>watchdogs 2
>stable


Also

>>>/v/
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>>59292236
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>>59292244
How about Crysis?
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>>59292253
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>>59292259
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>>59292274
or Doom?
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>>59292297
Maybe GTA....
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>>59292228
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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AMD fags BTFO for all of eternity
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>>59292246
looks good to me?
and I'm not seeing the R7's main competitors, the 6800K/6900K on those lists

is this another shill thread?
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>be today
>casually mention to AMD fanboi coworker that Ryzen didn't turn out so great
>Immediate sperging about how gaming performance doesn't matter it's all about workstation performance
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>>59292451
AMD fags are the worst.
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The FX8370 is $230 RIGHT NOW
THO
HUNDRED
THIRTY
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>>59292421
Are you an AMD shill? Because you sound like one. Why would you compare that crap when they lose to the 7700k like the rest.
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>>59292236
>>59292246
>>59292253
>>59292297
>7700k is just a rebranded 6700k they said
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>>59292516
Because the 6900k competition is literally the only substantiated claim to fall back on, it was only the AMDrones who were screaming about great IPC and single core performance
Lisa knew what her target was and it was never the core series
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>>59292511
Top kek
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>>59292569
>I get to choose what CPUs I compete against. No god no please don't compare Ryzen to other CPUs, only these certain ones!
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>>59292228
>>59292236
>implying this shows consistency of frames
>implying intel doesn't jump all over the place

notice the high and low jumps on the intel (microstutters)
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>>59292541
it is
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>>59292629
>6850K

Lel let's see the 7700k
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AMD BTFO
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>>59292244
theese thread have nothing to do with gayming, we just like shitposting and shitpost whenever we get the chance to
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>>59292620
Yeah that was the plan, cheap multicore, what AMD does best, and it would've been a good, successful, marketable plan if it weren't for those meddling AMDfags
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>>59292228
zero tests done on intel X99 platform
Glad that shit is dead now
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>>59292745
If AMD could have just said these chips are for encoding/rendering only, they could've avoided this disaster
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>>59292629
Do you have two seperate graphs?
tell whoever put that overlay on theyre fucking retarded
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>>59292629
>low jumps
You mean flawless, perfect fps at the end?
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>>59292669
Shilltel framelag
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>>59292785
kek the guy doesn't even know what the graph means
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>>59292809
Uh oh not looking good for Ryzen here
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>>59292809
WORK AND GAMING, BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE SHITWRECKER HIMSELF
>>59292848
ITS NOT FOR GAMING STOP IT
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>>59292866
Jesus Ryzen is horrible at Battlefield 1 DX12
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>>59292809
>DX11
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>>59292895
>>59292848
>JEWS
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>>59292848
>aots suddenly becomes a game that everyone plays when AMD doesn't do well in it
Pick a side and stick to it shill.
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>>59292930
AMD are the jews

They make really shitty gaming CPUs that cost twice as much as Intel
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>>59292962
What the fuck happened after the beginning of that test that fucked up AMD's frametimes?
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>>59292994
gentoo compiling started
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>>59292962
They probably fucked the tests by using a nvidia card
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>>59292962
less money from profits=less money for development of new processors
it's a vicious cycle and partially due to intel's unethical business practices
luckily Ryzen wasn't that bad
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>>59292274
>7700k, a $350 CPU beats 6950X, a $1000 CPU.
Intelfags will defend this.
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>>59293054
if there is a monopoly, a processor company can spend less and less money on development and get away with it
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>>59293046
Holy fuck Intel, get your shit together.
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>>59292228
Weren't there a bunch of Win 10 scheduling and motherboard issues?
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>>59293120
Staying below Ryzens minimum frame time for 90% of the benchmark isn't a bad thing
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>>59292511
its under 200 on ebay.

what does that prove exactly?
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>>59293076
I don't own a 6950X and i can't imagine why anybody would outside of showing off
I'll defend the $300 CPU :^)
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>>59293076
Oh shit Intel BTFO!

Intel wins!
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>>59293333
That some guy on eBay only lost $30 on a processor that's been shit for 5 years
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>>59293382
kek
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>>59293342
>10 cores? Why do you need 8 cores?
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>>59293390
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>>59293382
its 180 used.
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>>59293413
An i3 7350K is $180 new and demolishes it
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>>59293306
Being all over the place is though.
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This shit is just sad for Ryzen desu senpai
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>>59293446
Yeah but if it's all over the place while being definitely be faster than ryzen it's still a better CPU for gaymen.
I would take 60-80 fps over a solid 50 any day
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>>59293569
For the purpose of Ryzen vs Intel, it's more like taking a stuttery 130fps over stable 100fps
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>>59293569
This. People don't know how to interpret these charts. Higher is bad on the frame time charts, the Ryzen gets annihilated here >>59293046
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>>59292994

Windows 10 not fixed for SMT, Core parking bug, memory speed/latency bug, game compiled with intels compiler, take your pick, all probably true.
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>>59292228
So it's proof that amd poorfags from reddit created another fake news that their i7 was stuttering and when they replaced it with ryzen all stutters are gone. Fucking cunts, i bet amd pajeets have hundreds of accounts on reddit and keep shilling campaign against intel.
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>>59293402
kek i love these
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>>59292962
HHAHAHAH BTFO AMD BY AMD
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Ryzen looks great.

Those bugs being worked out look like it will give Intel a run for it's money, on 8 cores compared to Intels flagship 4 core. It's overclocking with XFR looks like it's got a few more megahertz too.

When the R5 launches offering similar performance at 250 and lower What's the winner going to be I wonder?
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>>59293649
>People don't know how to interpret these charts.
Just like u senpai
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>>59293638
The frame times rarely pass AMD's spikes, it'll likely have just as much stutter as ryzen while performing much better
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>>59292541
it is

there is literally no OC room left as stock clocks are already at 4.5ghz and ceiling remains at 5ghz.

if you want to OC in the TINIEST bit you need to remove the TIM.
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>>59293930
>5GHz below 1.5 volts regularly on consumer cooling
>no room left
6700ks took upwards of a hot 1.5+ volts to reach those kinds of clocks
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>>59292895
DX12 is broken in general. You get lower frames in it than DX11 on both AMD and Nvidia cards.
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>>59293649
Higher time means more time to render, aka lower FPS. But lower variance is better, because it means each frame took a similar amount of time to render. You can't see variance with just FPS because FPS is a normalized value over time, so it averages out all the variance data.
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>>59294188
But better frames with Intel CPUs and AMD graphics card
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>>59293930
What does that makes Ryzen which caps at 4.0Ghz while melting at 1.4v, even 1.5v suicide runs don't give 4.1Ghz unless golden chip.
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>>59294299
B-b-but just wait until we remove half the cores!
Intlel intshills eternally wrecked, right guys?
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>>59292228

It is about Haswell-tier, not too bad at all.

It is the Intel gaming faggots who are getting told hard. Skylake/Kabe Lake aren't that much better and still they try to spin into a "night and day" difference. Pathetic

Ryzen completely destroys its Bulldozer predecessor.
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is it safe to say these differences are minimal in real world use?
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>>59294340
>gets beat by processors that cost half as much
>not too bad
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>>59294364

Eh, there is a difference.

It's small but noticable if you know what you're looking for.

If you did a blind test, I bet Ryzen would come out ahead just because it's times are better.
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>>59294373

1700 costs ten dollars less.
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>>59294420
how about stop lying fag?
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>>59294420
And is 20% slower than the 7700k
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>>59294373

By a small margin in causal shit but for real computing workloads (not gayming). R7 Ryzen completely demolishes current Skylake and Kaby Lake chips.
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>>59294436

No, it is at most, in a worst case scenario 20 frames lower.
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What am I missing here, I thought the AMD was supposed to be cheaper?
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>>59294500
1700 is cheaper, 1800X is cheaper than Intel's $1000 abortions.
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>>59294500
AMD's cheap 4 cores are coming later.
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>>59294500

That you're too stupid to know how to shop online?
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>>59294481
>No, it is at most, in a worst case scenario 20 frames lower.


Kek anon, let me give you some insight, I upgraded from a GTX970 to a GTX980Ti last year and my performance increased by almost 20 to 30FPS depending on the scene.
Back when I upgraded from my HD7950 to the GTX970 the performance upgrade was also 20FPS.


Even from a 1070 to 1080 the difference is almost the same excluding 4K where the bigger bandwidth of the 1080 shines.


"Just 20 frames lower" isn't good enough.
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>>59294340
And you're trying to spin it as though bulldozer wasn't a complete abortion
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>>59294873
This, my phone wrecks bulldozer and my laptop wrecks even an 8350
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>>59294500
They aren't anymore.

That's the biggest problem with Ryzen IMO

AMD was supposed to be the budget gaming brand and they completely failed on that.
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>>59294910
>budget gaming brand
but isn't Ryzen better suited to workstation stuff as well as gaming? I guess it would still beat out Intel's chip with the same # of cores in a price/performance standing.

But if you are only looking to game, the 4 core ryzens will need to be competitive with the 7700s at much cheaper prices.
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>>59294910
The full Ryzen line isn't even out yet. R7s are the high end, of course they're going to be expensive. Wait til R3, or R5, before passing judgement
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>>59294986
So I guess the question is, how much would all these Ryzen benchmarks suffer from only having 4 cores. If not much, then it will be a much better value than the i7 4 core.
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>>59292228
POOLETE THIS RIGHT NOW
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>>59294471
>real computing workloads

Like photoshop?
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>>59295483
Is Intel the worst company on the face of the planet? They have the money and they're still complete shit.
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>>59295697
>cardnews
And I mean there's plenty of of objective non-relational benchmarks so people can see exactly how bad it is
Doesn't matter who you shill for, people who make graphs like that should be gassed
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>>59295789
It was stickied on /r/amd ;^) by the Red Team mods.
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>>59292246
>>59292253
>>59292259
So I guess my 2600k is a bit outdated for my GTX 1080.
But new CPUs require Windows 10
And WIN10 is Cancer
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>>59295967
Laptop manufacturers are literally shipping Windows 8 Kaby lake machines right now
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>>59295483
Fuck off shill you've spammed this shitty percentage based benchmark so many times it's not even funny. kys.
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>>59292809
HOLY SHIT

Jesus Christ 7700K is a fucking stuttering piece of shit.
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>>59295483

Photoshop is I/O and memory bandwidth bound. CPUs haven't been an issue since quad-core CPUs and beyond became commonplace.

Try using a CPU-demanding application
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>>59295967
could go skylake

and kaby lake is quite literally a rehash of skylake (even using the same socket) so you're not missing much

but you'll be paying out of your ass for DDR4 RAM since it's almost doubled in price recently
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Who the fuck is going to pay $1000 for Intel housefires.
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>>59293372
Underrated
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>>59294299
ryzen is likewise a shitty overclocker, i have no intentions of going AMD considering i'm on skylake. it's just that kaby lake is undeniably a rehash with crazy high stock clocks and support for intel optane.

>>59294145
that's neat

it's still absolutely NECESSARY to delid the CPU for an extra .2-3 GHz. while the stock clocks are impressive, that's ridiculous.
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>>59294667

On a brand new architecture, with brand new technology. Windows 10 and Linux aren't even caught up to it. Let alone a RAM bug that fucks with timings and increases latency. Direct X 12 is in it's infancy, and each release has better CPU scaling then the release before it. That's all before we get another 100Mhz or so when people learn that overclocking Ryzen isn't like Intel. And you're trying to tell me the 7700k is vastly superior? When in it's absolute WORST case scenario it has a frame discrepancy of 20 frames per second? If you think "this is it" from ryzen, you are in for a shock. There's a reason why the smartest pc tech reviewer on Youtube has come out and said every single benchmark for the first week is garbage. Because it will close that gap in it's worst case scenario, and outright beat it in others when all these teething problems get worked out.

If that's not enough reason to be concerned, the 7700k is the same price and will see diminishing returns, while Ryzen continues to improve and mature. Hell, the power consumption alone between the two processors is enough to get people to switch. Meanwhile the X99 chipset gets another frivolous socket upgrade for another 250 dollar motherboard. Another 2 cores, and 1200 dollar price tag on top of that. AMD just killed Intels enthusiast/power user segment in one single blow. Next up is the 6 core of Ryzen sitting right in between 7700 and the 7600 for 250 dollars. If you are this butt blasted about an eight core chip inching to Intels 4 core flagship, just wait for the mainstream market to start competing with the 7700 and beating the 7600.

You shills are nothing. Shit posting will not change reality. It will not reverse consumer mind share, it will not change the fact that Intel is fucked up the ass in the server market, the mobile market, and the desktop market is being contested where it once had dominance.

See you in four years when Intel finally releases a new architecture to catch up.
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7700k appears to be the best option still :/
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>>59293372
welcome to the near term future
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>>59292451
>it's all about workstation performance

But Ryzen isn't a server CPU.
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>>59295967
Windows 10 is fine. There's a bunch of really easy to use programs that disable the tracking crap.
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>>59296702
AMDelusion off the charts.

Gamers aren't going to buy this crap. Enthusiasts aren't going to buy this crap. It's literally only good for video encoding & rendering.
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How hard do you think it is to teach monkey concept of time and apply that concept to these graphs?

It amazes me that so many people can't read this shit.

>inb4 100-150fps is better than 100fps-100fps

god.
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>>59296702
>AMD just killed Intels enthusiast/power user segment in one single blow

This is why Intel is so garbage, no matter how much money they have they're still getting destroyed because they're simply too retarded.
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>>59294910

>8 core 16 thread CPU
>being compared for price/performance against some quadcore and dual core chips

Whoever did that graph needs to be taken out back and shot. That's analysis is pure faggotry of the highest order.
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>>59298050
he spams that screenshot, I think source is interactive you can exclude what you don't like
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>>59298062
by interactive I mean he cut out only top of the chart.
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>>59298062
>>59298075

So basically, I replied to bait, yes?
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>>59297924
He's not wrong though, you're just upset reality proved you wrong.
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>>59298043
You can't be serious.

AMD barely has 20% of the gaming CPU market and they just came out with a processor that utterly fails at gaming. It's only going to get worse for them here on out.

It was so bad Intel didn't even lower their prices a cent.
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>>59298095
Lol more delusion.
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>>59297924
it's sold out everywhere over weekend for no reason then
last time that happened for intel I think was when coreduo came out for $200
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>>59296702
this is not pasta

lmaoing
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>>59298123
Why do AMDtards always lie?

It's not sold out, I can buy every single Ryzen CPU on Amazon and New Egg right now.
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>>59298123
Everone my microcenter dropped the price of the 1800x because no one is buying it

I'm sure some people are buying it but sold out? nah
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>>59298107
Yeah no, see >>59296413

Enjoy your housefires.
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>>59298116
Stay mad
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>>59298171
Enjoy your $500 Ryzen CPU that gets beat by a $240 Intel CPU
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>>59298160
last time I checked only 3 left on newegg, and then no motherboards left
no wonder there is no new purchases
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>>59298192
Stay delusional
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>>59298201
>when coomputerbase confirms my bias it's best source ever since 1999
>when it doesn't PCGAMER IS THE KING HOW DARE YOU SHOW ME THESE NAZI GRAPHS
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>>59298201
Still infinitely better than burning down the entire neighbourhood.
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>>59292228
The primary problem is that AMD didn't get scheduler patches from MS for Windows before launch, which fucks things up since the OS needs to know to not rebalance processes across core clusters unless absolutely necessary.

If you look at frame time histograms, you can see pronounced bimodal distributions for a lot of games, indicating distinct normal and "whoops" modes of operations.
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>>59298272
You might want to look at Ryzen power consumption before you start talking about burning down the neighborhood
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>>59298244
t. deluded intard
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>>59298275
guess what MS delayed it
patch had to be today

w7 without even a support gets 17% more performance
imagine if w7 gets SMT/scheduler patch?
lunacy
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>>59298288
Retarded shill is confusing power consumption with TDP

Kill yourself.
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>>59298275
>AMD develops Ryzen for years
>mysteriously they forgot to make sure it works with Windows

Seems legit
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>>59298331
MS knew about it since november, at the very least
they didn't bother

how do you fix OS with hardware?
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>>59298327
You do realize power = heat
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>>59298379
please do not reply to a retard, please, I can't take anymore of thermodynamics talks
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>>59298379
>>59298391
95W =/= 140W

Are you clinically retarded or what?
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>>59298423
Notice how the Intel CPU produces less heat
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>>59298432
Notice the title of the graph
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>>59298423
I meant him, sorry worded it wrong.

>>59298432
and how did you learn about that? not a single software works right now, only some boards and they just take average from outside and in chip telemetry
still lower than intel
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>>59298464
Heat = power
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>>59298481
>what is efficiency
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>>59298490
Learn some science. Where do you think the heat comes from?
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>>59292895
>>59292848
>>59293479

DELET DIS nao!!!!
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>>59298519
Learn some math, because 95 =/= 140
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>>59298331
>>59298356

So basically Microsoft optimized for Intel schedulers for a little over half a decade and didn't want to put in the effort to optimize/fix it for Zen; and it wasn't until AMD subtly threw MS under the bus my indirectly mentioning it, that MS got its shit together and will thus patch the issue.
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>>59298534
You are truly too stupid for this world.
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>>59298574
Now you're just projecting.
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>>59298588
Yes I'm the one that doesn't understand that heat = power
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>>59292228
>within the margin of clockspeed deficit
>currently on a buggy OS with buggy BIOS' with chips being threaded very poorly with seemingly software-restricted overclocking with etc. etc. etc.
Lemme show you where I keep my fucks to give...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtYTPcshyA0
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>>59298537
do you know the history of MS and fixing schedulers?

Nehalem was without one, don't remember how long
Bulldozer was without one for 8 months, and they didn't even bother to roll it for main updates you had to download it separately
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>>59298379
Yeah but that power consumption is for the system, not cpu only.

Cpu is not the only one heating up. So while the system is using that much wattage the heat produced in the cpu is not the same as that one.

Hence cpu TDP values
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so, to sum it up
Ryzen has worse graph only in three games
WD2
GTA5
and BF1 DX12,
DX11 BF1 is perfect

it's like hardware is actually amazing and something is wrong with software
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>>59298872
careful, this is /g/ unless a single ryzen chip beats a all supercomputer combined it's not worthy of anything.

also the power consumption must be either 0 or it must produce electricity on it's own

then /g/ will maybe considering running some benchmarks to say it's a piece of crap
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>>59292228
more like fryzen

Just waiting on the first dead CPUs
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>>59296637
But it isn't didn't you read
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>>59298604
Yes, you're the one who doesn't understand that 95 different than 140
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Did you know?
95 different than 140
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>>59298897
When you have to fall back on power consumption, you've lost the arguement anon.
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>>59299327
It's
>i'm talking to one person
autist again
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>>59292228
well ms updated windows 10 3 hours ago with the new mapper...

people already are seeing a jump from 10 to 15% on perf increase..

guess the shills are going to cry way too much now
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>>59298872
t. blind man

Jesus at least read the charts at the top
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>mfw I am still using 2500k
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>>59299547
jesus at least learn the difference between longer and shorter lines
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>>59299609
AMDtards truly do have double digit IQs
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>>59299633
I will explain to you it once again.

times spent beyond "insert ms here" charts do not matter, you can get that information from averages

what you don't get from those charts is spread of those ms one from another IN LINEAR TIME PROGRESSION

only computerbase graphs are relevant to stutter research, and they support the claim in majority of cases

nobody denies that average fps of 7700K is far superior, quality of it is mediocre
you decide on a compromise, higher fps or steadier fps

you either get slightly cheaper 1700 with lower fps but more stability but it's cheaper so whatever
or you buy more expensive 7700K which will run at more fps, but less stability due to how it is at it's maximum ability and 95+% utilization

I'm arguing for people to make informed choice, not that one side is better or worse.
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>>59299840
That's complete bullshit, the 7700k is both smoother and faster
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>>59298288
>less load and much less idle power than 8 core intel despite higher clockspeed
looks fine to me.
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>>59294667
Bro it's just 20 frames!
Why wouldn't you a stable 30fps ryzen that runs buttery smooth over the 7700k which jumps around all over the place betwee 100 and 150?
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>have i5 4670k
>EoL
I guess I'll bite the bullet when the time comes and get a ryzen
I don't much care for performance, but I ain't switching to W10 ever
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>>59301590
believe it or not, unstable fps is the biggest gripe people have with PC gaming
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>>59292629
>Intel has consistently low frametimes with one outlier going high

>AMD has consistently high frametimes with no outliers going even higher

Intel is the clear choice for a faster and smoother experience.
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>>59302222
The quads of truth has spoken.

Intel is better than AMD.
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>>59302178
You are right bro, that's why I prefer to lock my games at 30FPS to have a buttery smooth stable fps.
Who would want that shitty intel that has 150-200fps i mean it bounches all around between 150 and 200, so stuttery, I much rather use a pentium 1 that can only produce 30 fps.
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we need more tests with disabled cores
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>>59295967
>But new CPUs require Windows 10
Or Linux.
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>>59303563
windows 10 is still better than linux
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>>59293076
>4-core CPU beats 10-core CPU in single-threaded performance
Yes, that's just so very strange, senpai. Must be de joos.
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>>59303581
>please microsoft, tread on me some more
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http://techbuyersguru.com/intels-core-i5-6600k-vs-i7-6700k-vs-i7-6900k-games?page=3

>And ,indeed, we found the key to the 6900K's poor performance.
>By disabling four of its cores, we were able to make the 6900K perform just like a quad-core! Ironic that it requires this step to allow the eight-core CPU to keep pace with its $250 and $350 cousins.

nobody bothered to nitpick 6900K back then, because it was not realistic gamer option, it had same issues it seems
today it is at the top of the pack

http://hwbot.org/newsflash/4335_ryzen_platform_affected_by_rtc_bias_w88.110_not_allowed_on_select_benchmarks

explains a bit why everyone got different numbers
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7s-9RmCA8E

INTEL SHILLS BTFO
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>>59305724
Raja is that you? Your English got better.
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>>59298659

Nobody on /g/ actually cares about this because /g/ is just /v/ with more autism. On nearly every front ryzen is a xeon killer but since of previously mentioned /v/ spillover /g/ is only concerned with gaming and as ever initial results are only what count.

Lets say MS patches their scheduler for ryzen next month and it catches up to a 7700k - in this scenario suddenly gaming won't count and we'll be back to trying to pick some random metric where Intel is ahead. See: why /g/ has focused so much on raw clockspeed of the 7700k once it became clear zen's IPC is right up there with it. Plus /g/ has an incredible double standard regarding zen and broadwell-e.
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>>59303920

Have you seen the part of the game where gamersnexus benches watch dogs 2? All they do is run down an empty alley for 30 seconds and declare the benchmark good. When the ruskies at gamegpu and a few youtubers benched the game driving through the city the 700k falls behind its bigger cored brethren (as well as ryzen) as watch dogs fucking murders cpus when driving about.
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>>59303920

The sleep bug really fuxks my ass.

Awakening Ryzen from sleep mode breaks the core clock and.makes it think it's running faster then it is.
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>>59306151
try disabling USB power option in windows
curious if it will work
also why the fuck do you send pc to sleep?
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>>59306141
amazing.
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>>59298201
Kill yourself.
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>>59306118
>Lets say MS patches their scheduler for ryzen next month and it catches up to a 7700k - in this scenario suddenly gaming won't count and we'll be back to trying to pick some random metric where Intel is ahead.
Nice that you are making shit up.
>well it failed at what it was advertised but if it did get fixed, the joos would find something else to whine about
>so we shouldn't fix it, or treat it as something legit because joos will always find a way
>plz buy ryzen
You are fucking disgusting you know that. Just listen to yourself for a god damn minute.

Also it's cute how you try to push your fucking narrative and decide you have the authority to speak for a board.
>Nobody on /g/ actually cares about this because /g/ is just /v/ with more autism.
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>>59306281
oh hi, did you have your cofee today? how is working day starting?
don't you have other stylistic templates for writing shillposts?
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>>59306317
I could as you the same fucking thing since your posts push a narrative with fuck all evidence.
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>>59306347

FUN FACT: MS has never, ever patched its scheduler to handle new architectures.

Trufax.
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>>59292228
goddammit AMD, release 1600x and 1600!
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>>59306354
Okay nice. So?
I didn't say prove me intel is a shit company.
I said ryzen was marketed as a gaming cpu, it failed at that losing quite hard to 7700k.
Until fixes hit the market and you can come up with benchmarks across multiple games, I see no point in speculating wildly and pushing a narrative.
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>>59306354
Why should they have to?

Maybe AMD should make hardware that works with common software.
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>>59306429
Don't be a fucking retard.
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>>59306354
>>59306429

You two are dipshits of the highest order. MS and Intel spent years patching hyperthreading to stop it giving negative scaling. MS patched their scheduler for bulldozer's CMT and they will patch it again for ryzen.

You >>59306429 are particularly stupid as it doesn't work like that. While its complicated in a nutshell you map the software to the hardware, not the other way around.
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>>59295483
>that same shill spamming the same single threaded test every thread
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>>59298288
>I don't know what TDP means
You do realize that how much of the consumed power becomes waste heat depends on the efficiency of the architecture, right?
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>>59299566
I am using a socket 771 xeon with a sticker on the bottom to make it compatible with my mobo.
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>>59306567

Have you read the review Serve The Home did? its very, very interesting

https://www.servethehome.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700-linux-benchmarks-zen-buy/
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>>59306624
Literally 100% of the consumed power becomes heat. What else would it become? Kinetic energy? Potential energy? Electric circuits always dump energy into heat unless you're charging capacitors or short term in coils magnetic field which is returned back into the circuit either way.

TDP is there because different chips have different efficiency when it comes to dumping heat into cooler and getting it out.
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>>59292259
Now show the Linux version.
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>>59297175
Workstations aren't servers, Steinberg
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