what will it take for you to leave windows

>windows 10 other than stripped down LTSBs
Fucking kek

What it will take is Windows 7 losing long-term support. Then we Linux.

>>59276150
A gun pointed to my head by Stallman himself

>>59276150
When the effort of using Windows outweighs the effort of having to switch to a different operating system.

>>59276218
it is already at that point desu

>>59276243
>Effort of staying on 7: 0

>>59276150
when you don't need to search on google for hours for terminal commands to do something.

>>59276150
Muh gayms.

>>59277884
If it wasn't for Overwatch I'd use linux full time.

>>59276150
What will it take for you to realize that you can just run whatever host OS you want and run everything else as a virtual machine? Are you that obsesses with GNU/Linux that you need to control what other people use? I don't give a shit about what everyone else uses. I use my computer as a tool and that is not OS-dependant.

>>59276256

Except when they were just upgrading people without them agreeing

MS Office, Musicbee and some other programs I regularly use, better drivers, good touchscreen support, and better battery life.

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>>59278076
>Adding virtual machine overhead to playing the latest vidyo gayms @ 4k 144 fps ultra settings

muh gaymes. Nowadays it's the only reason I switch to my Windows partition.

Im a faggot, i use pc only to play games , no reason to leave w7-chan

>>59276150
software quality and usability

To get enough money to move to Apple.

about make make some OC?

>>59278044
>https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Wine-Patches-Overwatch-Working

Need to grow out your beard but it's doable.

I ditched windows 10 on the weeked.

Feels good, Linux on a Surface Pro is neat

I already moved onto MacOS.
MSOffice & everything I need is there.
I could care less about games, I have a Playstation for that anyway.

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>>59278205
>Virtual machine overhead

Nigga you full a shit.
VT-x comes with a 5% penalty to bare metal in absolute worst case scenario.
Writeback caching will give you better disk speed than native and you can do some cool tuning and it keeps everything sandboxed.

It is entirely indistinguishable from a real machine if someone sat you in front of a monitor and had you play some vidya.

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>>59276171
Probably this desu senpai. W7 still works great for me.

when I can game just as easily as I can on Windows

>>59276150
A usable linux daily driver

>>59279309
You only need DOTA+ Steam
and that works great last time i checked

>>59279322
What are your issues with the current popular distros?

>>59279303
how do you get a virtual machine to run well ? I have a ubuntu vm set up for porn and it barely can do that. it will randomly decide to not draw frames and i have to drag shit across the screen for pixels to update. watching videos there is some insane playback latency and it looks like a slideshow rather than a video. can't imagine trying to game.

I went from Windows servers to mostly Linux servers.
I will probably never switch to Linux simply because ssh exists.
Why open a terminal to my local machine to work when I can open up one to a 32 core machine that runs 24/7, or a remote server in Kansas on a dedicated 1gbps line.

>>59279337
any way to transfer saves I have for games in progress? and it read correctly?

>>59279340
Likely your cpu doesn't support it. I know Intel doesn't allow it on certain cpu's.

>>59279340
What software are you using to virtualize?
What hardware is on your host?
What discrete GPU are you passing through to your VM?

>>59279379
Can't you sync it to steam cloud ?

>>59279340
Either install the proper drivers in the vm, or enable 3D or both. You can also use a second gpu either as a accelerator, or as a physical gpu connected to the vm and a second monitor

>>59279386
vmware and virtual box. they can't use my GPU as far as I know.

when the software I use will be supported elsewhere

>>59279390
oh , I forgot that even existed, thank you, what distro do you recommend for games then

>>59276150
>not on 7

>>59278099
>Using anything but Enterprise
Also if you are too retarded to pirate you can just learn to use the group policy.
Finally Microsoft stopped the upgrades a year ago.

Apple supported MacOS release for PCs with DirectX. And no, OpenGL doesn't cut it.

t. 3D-Engine Developer

>>59279424
>for games
Ubuntu, seriously.
If you don't like Unity go for any other Ubuntu spin like, Ubuntu Gnome and such.

>>59279337
Dota is shit.

>>59279408
vmware & virtualbox emulates a gpu like shit.
It then pushes frames over a virtual network to your host.
Slow as hell.

If you install Linux on your host with KVM & Virt-manager you can add QXL drivers to your VMs which is an emulated driver intended for speed.
Mouse feels bare metal and it can run full 4K 2D video with no issues.

If you want 3D then you have to have VT-d and isolate a physical GPU to give to your VM and then use it as you would a real machine with GPU passthrough.

>>59279459
thank you

>>59276150
Photoshop & Pixeljunk Monsters on linux

Surprisingly, a fair amount of steam games are on linux and I've considered completely switching, but I couldnt get photoshop to work decently.

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>>59279459
>Dota is shit.
NO

>>59279462
ah ok makes sense. definitely not switching to linux but good to know the vm experience is not comparable.

>>59279490
>Playing ASSFAGGOTS
end yourself.

>>59276150
M$ TODDLERS BTFO THE FUCK OUT
HOW WILL THEY EVER RECOVER
IT IS OVER
MISCROSOFT LOST
LINUX WON
I FOR ONE WELCOME OUR NEW PENGUIN OVERLORDS

>>59276150
>2017
>using wankbloz

>>59279303

>VT-x comes with a 5% penalty to bare metal in absolute worst case scenario.

>Writeback caching will give you better disk speed than native

>better disk speed than native

lmao go to bed, kid.

>>59276150
A proper CAS tool.

when it can run .exe files natively without issue.

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>>59276150
KEK

http://wccftech.com/microsoft-resets-onedrive-storage/

>>59279715
Windows makes very poor disk calls on spinning rust.
Stacked with synchronous non CoW I/O on NTFS it's absolute garbage.
I'm not talking about shitty IDE or SATA emulation.
VirtIO gets you damn near metal.

Handing over your hosts memory caching pages in addition to the HDD cache it runs very nicely whereas Windows cannot trust itself to writeback cache to disks without CoW.

>>59279788

>spinning rust.

you need to go back.

>>59279788
>spinning rust
belongs in the group of
>cans
>rig
>glass
AKA
>do I fit in yet?

God closing a door.

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The biggest fucking shame of all of this is that Windows 10 is actually a super stable, efficient, and low footmark OS.

PROVIDED YOU ACTUALLY PAY AN ARM AND A LEG AND GET THE VERSION WHERE YOU CAN DISABLE TELEMETRY AND EVERY OTHER FORM OF BULLSHIT.

Hell, even fucking Edge is a really good browser, provided you install 3rd party addons like ublock origin and a few things that disconnect tracking. It has a really fucking good sandboxing feature and because its so deeply embedded in win10 it runs amazingly well and efficient and renders smooth like a champ.

It's such a fucking shame they are turbokikes and ruin everything.

t. enterprise client

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>>59279845
>>59279861
With good reason.
HDDs are shit. But still bang for buck solution but at quite another cost.

Ever tried performing dedup on a single RAID5?
Hours of lockups.

This is really the way, get a good solid Linux going and then run your gaymes in a VM, or in Wine because that works great with 99.99% of software now.

Then you never have to dick around with your fucking shit. Yes Linux might take a bit of autism to get going but it's worth it. Debian, without systemd, is my choice of course.

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>>59276150
Left wankbloz like 2 yrs ago.

When AutoCAD 2017 and Catia V6 run natively on Linux.

>>59276150
I'm already mostly left, and have been for quite some time. Literally the only thing I use my Windows partition for is the occasional game I want to play that has no Linux version.

>>59276150

I believe, OP, that what you meant to ask was:

> What will it take to make you install Windows?

And the answer is: Nothing. Nothi8ng can ever make me return to that fucking abomination.

I keep legacy VMs of WinXP 32-bit and Win7 Ult 64-bit to support obsolete software and file formats. Last time I fired one of those up was just after the New Year, so probably about 6 times per year, or less now.

>>59276150
it took Windows8 for me to leave Windows.

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>>59279922
> he thinks he can "disable" telemetry
> jooEDGEy is "rilly rilly gud"
> IF you install all the joory

>>59276150
>use osx
>no ads
>full disk encryption
>only os with good scaling for high-density displays
>unix

there are a few things you have to disable like keychain and anything involving an apple id, but overall its less tweaking than you need in windows while being much more consistent and usable (in terms of UI) than anything linux has to offer, aside from perhaps android and chromeos

>>59276150
Having a system that requires Windows 10 for for proper feature support. At that point I'll dual boot Windows 10 and Gentoo.

The main aspect in the way is that I don't really understand boot loaders... at all, and have to do some research on GRUB2 etc. I already have something that works. I use MSYS2 for anything that Windows makes a pain in the ass (and prefer gcc for development anyway). Rather not fuck it all up. I hate doing and redoing.

>the operating system you probably paid money for in some way is showing you advertisements while you are doing your work
This is seriously fucked up.

Zbrush running natively on GNU/Linux Systems.

It can be done yes but Its not there yet.

>>59276150
When I saw the abomination that is Windows 10 two years ago, I decided to make the switch so it's less painful on the longrun. I should have made it sooner, I despise Windows with a passion now. Windows 7 was fine I guess, but you faggots needs to start considering leaving it for good. It's already losing support and it's 3 years ahead of the supposed official date.

>>59280390
I think it's hilarious because people will simply submit and use it. It will become normalized though will readily be seen as second rate, which is dangerous for Microsoft. Not that they have any meaningful competition. Hearing the garbage that pours from the typical apologists' mouths is utterly nauseating bordering on maddening.

Era after era, the few people who see can never spur the masses into action until it is far too late. We live in a very sick world. Every word you hear stems from an intellectually dishonest and morally bankrupt, fantasy.

>>59280382
Most sane distros will autoconfigure grub to have entries for whatever other operating systems you have installed.

>>59276150
When there's a good video player on it on par with MPC-HC and madVR, as well as a good image viewer, I will.

I realized while writing this though that a lot of my problems with Linux could be solved just by having a Win7 VM for things that would just be too much of a pain to get working otherwise, like visual novels and such. Honestly the only reason I haven't installed Linux is because I don't have any empty hard drives and I still don't know which one I would want to use over others since I wouldn't be able to install gentoo or arch, nor would I really be incentivized to considering if I finally did get it all working it would break a week later.

>>59280465
I'm reluctant to even install Windows 10 at all. I suppose I could use vapoursynth in place of avisynth(+), though I couldn't use yatta. UE4 development, photoshop, 3dsmax / zbrush need Windows.

It always comes down to software. I'm disgusted with the world and tired of always feeling trapped. I used to be slave only to the most natural of natural laws. No longer. Stuck using spyware-laden inefficient trash with UX designed by a moron. I'm some know-nothin' that dabbles in philosophy, molecular biology, and neuroscience, and even I can pick out dozens of reasons their entire user interface is trash. Absolute gutter trash. Everywhere. As far as the eye can see. If the eye is seeing, it is seeing trash. There shall only be trash.

>>59276218
Only sensible answer.
To be honest, the only reason I use Linux is because I, like all teenagers, wanted to be a special snowflake and now I'm too fucking old to give a shit about what my computer is running, let alone changing it.

>>59276150
Upcoming arena shooters being released on Linux.

>>59276150
once ANY loonix os can play my japanese games

>>59276193
But why?

>>59276272
There are offline man pages that tell you how to do most things

>>59280771
That's too hard. The computer has to know how to do everything I want, when I want it, before I know I want it.

It's not good enough until man has made God for our godless world. It's too much of a burden to make myself for myself.

Games?
Adobe?
Full Driver Support without compiling them yourself?
Non buggy Drag and Drop file moving?
Windows 10 like 6 second boot times?
Full Sofware support by all major companies?
Just werks?

All of that shit without third party packages, emulation using wine etc.
I just want shit to work natively and out of the box. Is a consumer friendly OS too much to ask for?

>>59276150
Lack of gaming support

>>59280841
>Full Driver Support without compiling them yourself?
Don't post (parrot) about things you don't really know about, anon. Most drivers are either kernel modules or come as binary blobs, which are precompiled.

>Windows 10 like 6 second boot times?
This is because your computer isn't booting, it's coming out of hibernation. All it has to do is pull all the pages back into memory, of course it's fast. Though I don't really remember, maybe all it does is go into sleep mode.

>I just want shit to work natively and out of the box.
Stop choosing distros that don't do that intentionally. Use Mint, or Debian. Not Gentoo or Arch. Etc. Though I do agree with you, the full rounded deal is what's holding back Linux adoption every bit as much as popular (large corporately developed) software support. It's a catch 22. Always.

>>59276150
This literally never happened to me.

Windows 10 never showed me any ads.

Windows 10 never suddenly forced me to restart computer. It does updates when I decide it's time to close it as I go to bed.

Windows 10 never caused me any bsods or any other issues.

Windows 10 actually boosted my performance on my old shitty 3570k which reduced bottleneck in many CPU hungry games.

I dunno if it's the cause of not living in NSA land so maybe all those "features" are disabled to me while burgers are getting fucked or is it a simple blatant falseflag.

>>59280909
>This is because your computer isn't booting, it's coming out of hibernation. All it has to do is pull all the pages back into memory, of course it's fast. Though I don't really remember, maybe all it does is go into sleep mode.
I dunno, I dual boot, and it still boots quick. And I doubt it's hibernation; that's usually slower than a cold boot.

An OS with wide support that isn't macos

I've never got one of these ads or had the Store install apps without permission... is there a normie version of Win 10 you guys are using?

>>59280841
>Windows 10 like 6 second boot times?

This is the biggest meme people can come up with. You are using gahnoo FUCKING linux. You only NEED to reboot when updating your kernel.

>>59276150
if Microsoft stopped making it so easy to disable and block all the botnet/adware features then I would leave Windows.

Nothing, I left Windows in 2009

my eventual suicide