Where were you when AMD won our hearts again?

I fucking love compressing. I literally fap while compressing shit on my pc 24/7.

AMD: For real work
Intel: For vidyagamin in your mother's basement

Friendly reminder that if you're the second, you need to go back to /v/.

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>>59253867
nice, I like rendering too

>>59253940
I'm gonna game on my Ryzen, and there's nothing you can do to stop me, Mr. Stallman.

>>59253940
>>59253961
Ryzen is a bit slower slower, they'll need to undercut Intel i5 by a fair bit for it to be a viable choice.
It'll be interesting to see how much intel will cut costs to prevent AMD to get market share.

I'll probably pick up an R5 if the price is right.

>>59253837
Wait that's actually an impressive result from the A10 what the fuck

>>59254258
moar coars

>>59253837
>Where were you when AMD won our hearts again?
Not at the AMD Advocate Program headquaters, obviously

>>59254297
They made intel react this time, that's far better than Faildozer. We actually have competition now.

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>>59253941
Its pretty good over all.
I can only imagine performance would be higher across the board a month from now.

>>59253961
Ryzen isn't even bad at gaming it's just not the absolute best. That's literally the whole complaint.

>>59253837
>posts one benchmark instead of several
https://www.servethehome.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700-linux-benchmarks-zen-buy/

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>>59254407
Pretty damn good.

Quick someone post that Fallout and Tomb raider benchmark!

>>59253837
Windows 10 gaymin patch when :3

>>59254561
When MS stops sucking Intel's dick, there's a SMT patch already posted for Linux 30 hours ago.

>>59254581
does it do anything?

>>59254581
>posted for Linux 30 hours ago
month ago early feb

>>59254800
No, it's just there to look pretty.

>>59254815
Even better.

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anyone here like compiling?

>>59253837
Where is the budget Ryzen?! I don't need an 8 core/16 thread monster for fucks' sake, where is the R3? Where are the APUs?

How long am I supposed to wait?

>>59254851
Q2

>>59254851
try reading any of the fucking ryzen threads you tard. R5 (4 core 8 thread) coming in Q2.

>>59254876
r5 is 6 core
r3 is 4 core

>>59254851
they might be cheaper than intel's offering, but they're almost 100% guaranteed to overclock like shit, just like R7. What you gonna do with a 4c8t processor that's weaker than a skylake i5?

>>59254867
>>59254876
>Q2

What does that even mean? April? May? I need answers!

>>59253837
>>59253941
Yo check it out mom it's the only workload that has zero span and can only be ran on a CPU albeit rendering can also be run on a GPU I'll just ignore that. Isn't the AMD CPOO the greatest mom? I think so

>>59254902
second quarter this year. now fuck off

>>59254890
wrong, the higher end r5 models are 6c12t and the lower end r5 models are 4c8t.

>>59254890
r5 is both

r5 1400x/1300 are 4c/8t

>>59254902
When they have enough of them ready to sell.

>>59254897
Buy it for $120 I hope.

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>>59254917
>>59254890
these fucking names

>>59254910
I've been hearing your clueless nonsense for the
last few days so in hopes of seeing you shut up and future use for others against your nonsense I've dug out a just a few sheets on Biometrics, Lifecare, Materials Science, Proteomics, Structural Biology, Visualization, Crash/Impact testing, CFD, Electromagnetics and Structural Analysis software, a good 90% of these cannot be used on GPUs yet, until GPUs get their shit together.

AcuSolve and FEKO - Altair
CONVERGE - Convergent Science
CFD++ - Metacomp Technologies
CFX - ANSYS
Abaqus/CFD - 3DS-Simulia
FieldView - Intelligent Light
Fluent - ANSYS
FORTÉ - ANSYS (Reaction DESIGN)
FIRE - AVL
STAR-CCM+ and STAR-CD - CD-adapco
OpenFOAM (open-source software) - ESI Group offers support
PAM-FLOW - ESI Group
PowerFLOW - EXA
OVERFLOW - NASA code
SC/Tetra - Software Cradle
Abaqus/Standard - 3DS-Simulia
ANSYS Mechanical - ANSYS
CDH - AMLS
CTH - Sandia National Laboratories code
MSC Nastran - MSC Software
NX Nastran - Siemens PLM Software
SOAP
SOAPdenovo
SSAKE
Trinity
VCAKE
Velvet
FEKO - Altair
Abokia BLAST
HFSS - ANSYS
JMAG - Altair
Abokia BLAST
ABySS
ALLPATHS-LG
BLAST
OptiStruct - Altair
PERMAS - INTES
SYSNOISE - LMS International
Bowtie
BWA
ClustalW
Edena
EULER-SR
FASTA
HMMER
MIRA2
MrBayes
MUMmer
NCBI BLAST
Novoalign
Phred Phrap Consed
RAY
SeqAn
SHARCGS
SHRiMP

Last time, through your thick skull, GPUs can't branch for SHIT, they're only useful in under 30% of HPC Applications! And HPC itself isn't even 15% of the server market!

Fuck off and die.

>>59254897
I don't care about OC. I just need a cheap-ass PC and it would be nice to get a 4c/4t CPU for ~100$ or whatever. Oh well, I guess I'll just wait some more.

A pity I built my PC like, 7 months ago. Granted I got a i5 6500 non-k (wasn't going to spill extra on the motherboard too, finding a decent mATX not over £100 was a fucking headache already) but if Ryzen matures nicely and companies in general gear their shit towards moar corez, I'll consider them.

I've been with Intel for the most part of my life, the Q6600, 2500k and now 6500. So it'd be a nice change.

>anon u had 2500k, y u change?

I left the country for a year and couldn't quite bring my pc up with me. Plus the whole thing was starting to slow down right to fuck so I thought, may as well just build a new system. 0 Regrets.

>>59254959
>muh niche use case

>>59254982
$100 for an ivy bridge i5 level cpu wouldn't be too bad I suppose. We'll see.

>>59255104
these niche use cases cost 5B, nvidia makes only 300m on computing

>>59255104

>talking about GPUs as a replacement for CPUs
>doesn't understand SIMD can't handle "if else"
>muh niche use case
>while GPU acceleration is niche of a niche of a niche

There's a reason Tesla's from Nvidia are only 200M in revenue quarterly, while Intel's datacenter revenue is 4.7 billion.
That's only around 40000 Tesla GPUs, Intel sells more CPUs in 3 days.

>>59254994
2500k is still pretty good, just got one myself last summer second hand to replace my Q6600.

>>59254407
>>59254525
so it's only marginally better than the 7700K in edge cases and significantly worse in day-to-day stuff? and most of those edge cases are addressed by using a GPU anyway? oh..

>>59254845
>only 20% better than 7700K
>double the cores
lol k

>>59255344
I've been hearing your clueless nonsense for the
last few days so in hopes of seeing you shut up and future use for others against your nonsense I've dug out a just a few sheets on Biometrics, Lifecare, Materials Science, Proteomics, Structural Biology, Visualization, Crash/Impact testing, CFD, Electromagnetics and Structural Analysis software, a good 90% of these cannot be used on GPUs yet, until GPUs get their shit together.

AcuSolve and FEKO - Altair
CONVERGE - Convergent Science
CFD++ - Metacomp Technologies
CFX - ANSYS
Abaqus/CFD - 3DS-Simulia
FieldView - Intelligent Light
Fluent - ANSYS
FORTÉ - ANSYS (Reaction DESIGN)
FIRE - AVL
STAR-CCM+ and STAR-CD - CD-adapco
OpenFOAM (open-source software) - ESI Group offers support
PAM-FLOW - ESI Group
PowerFLOW - EXA
OVERFLOW - NASA code
SC/Tetra - Software Cradle
Abaqus/Standard - 3DS-Simulia
ANSYS Mechanical - ANSYS
CDH - AMLS
CTH - Sandia National Laboratories code
MSC Nastran - MSC Software
NX Nastran - Siemens PLM Software
SOAP
SOAPdenovo
SSAKE
Trinity
VCAKE
Velvet
FEKO - Altair
Abokia BLAST
HFSS - ANSYS
JMAG - Altair
Abokia BLAST
ABySS
ALLPATHS-LG
BLAST
OptiStruct - Altair
PERMAS - INTES
SYSNOISE - LMS International
Bowtie
BWA
ClustalW
Edena
EULER-SR
FASTA
HMMER
MIRA2
MrBayes
MUMmer
NCBI BLAST
Novoalign
Phred Phrap Consed
RAY
SeqAn
SHARCGS
SHRiMP

Last time, through your thick skull, GPUs can't branch for SHIT, they're only useful in under 30% of HPC Applications! And HPC itself isn't even 15% of the server market!

Fuck off and die.

>>59255367
jee, it's as if the 8 cores are as strong as the 4 cores clockspeed and ipc wise

>>59255393
>>59255401
meh I'll just stick to the 7700K, the 1800X clearly sucks and is more expensive anyway

>>59255344
>m-muh GPU

GPUs can be used one out of 60 times in industry applications.
SIMD is unsuitable for modern workloads, that's why Itanium was such a failure.

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>>59255427

>>59255427

Do whatever you want, nobody told you what to buy in conversation?

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>>59255471
ok thanks I'm looking forward to the 7700K

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>>59255427
the 1800x is aimed at the 6900k retard. AMD even said on their pre launch presentation that it's a 6900k competitor

1700 is aimed at the 7700k. for people who want all round performance, low tdp, overclocking, and good gayming for the price

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>>59255427
>>59255488
>he thinks R7 is meant to compete with consumer i7

>>59255488
>playing FO4
The fuck.

>>59255516
you can't fix willfull ignorance

>>59255529
It's the best gayme of all time.


t. Cuck who never played Baldur's Gate, Fallout 1/2, Planescape or Gothic

>considering buying a CPU made by a girl

>>59255512
even the 1700 can compete with 6900, the real competitor for 7700 would be R5 with 4 cores and 8 threads, and since the R7 1700 is just a tad more expensive than 7700, the R5 will is almost guaranteed to be much cheaper than 7700

>>59255552
the only retard here is you and the intel shills trying to imply an 8 core 16 thread chip that beat's intel's top-end workstation chips is supposed to compete with a fucking consumer chip in a completely different segment of the market.

KYS

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>>59255565
>considering buying a CPU made by a girl kike

https://unitedwithisrael.org/israeli-women-advancing-high-tech-innovation/

>>59255565
>Anon, I just don't feel like gaming today

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>>59255565
but it's not

>>59255516
Well the R5 does but it's just the R7 only worse
And the R7 is kinda inferior to even just a cheap pair of used Xeons
and well there are no dual CPU boards...
meh

>>59255604
>consumer market
>dual CPU boards

Show me your Broadwell-E's with dual socket support and ECC

>>59255604
>R5 is worse
>not released
>no benchmarks
>not even any leaks

>>59255641
it's just the R7 with fewer cores, have you even been paying attention? you people I swear..

>>59255634
>Show me your Broadwell-E's with dual socket support and ECC
um why? i care about price and performance not about some magical voodoo bullshit you imagined in your schizophrenic mind

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>>59255668
>https://www.google.com/search?q=cpu+binning

>>59255668
Now that's what i call a shitposting.

>>59255705
fucking lol you people
>t-the 1800X is gonna be better because muh binning
>it's the same exact shit as the 1700 with different stock clocks
this sheer delusion is depressing

>>59255583
>$329 msrp for the 1700
I'm not shilling for intel retard
people say the 1700 competes with the 7700k (for now)is b'cos of price and increased versatility. Everything is also on one socket

>>59255668
>um why? i care about price and performance not about some magical voodoo bullshit you imagined in your schizophrenic mind

Because you brought up features (multi socket) support AMD doesn't have on its prosumer CPUs but its competition (Intel HEDT) doesn't have it either.

Want dual socket? Wait for Skylake-EP or the new Opterons.
Else get the SB Xeons that have pathetic ST performance.

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>>59255668
>Ryzen supports ECC
>no need to buy 2+ times more intel workstation Mobo
>no need to pay 2+ times more for intel workstation CPU
>i care about price/performance

>>59254959
You need medical attention. You said the same thing to me yesterday and this is my first post in this thread.

>>59255742
>the exact same
better xfr is a difference, tdp is a difference

>>59255742
Yup, that's why the 1700 is the best CPU to buy.

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>>59255603
Apparently Jim Keller was more like an executive overseeing both Zen and K12 but Zen was actually designed and built by veteran AMD engineers lead by Mike Clark.

>>59255777
Because you post uninformed and ignorant garbage and should be stopped before others actually think SIMD processors are useful in the same area x86 are.

Itanium exists, It's SIMD, it was shit, end of story.
GPUs can't branch.

Go kill yourself and have a nice day.

>>59255792
Unless you only play games.
>>59255798
He was the dude who slaped the engineers so they don't make another faildozer.

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>>59255742
>t-the 1800X is gonna be better because muh binning

nice reading comprehension and implications there, friend. now go back to school you fucking retarded mongoloid.

They can take the lower powered bins and put into the 8 core chips and save the higher binned for high-end mainstream chips.

>>59255818
>Unless you only play games.
It's fine overclocked for games, not the best but fine, it has other uses.

>>59255769
>Because you brought up features (multi socket) support AMD doesn't have on its prosumer CPUs but its competition (Intel HEDT) doesn't have it either.
ok but i care about price and performance so stop trying to shoe-horn in your own nonsense just to make a flawed argument

>>59255604
>Well the R5 does but it's just the R7 only worse
>And the R7 is kinda inferior to even just a cheap pair of used Xeons
>and well there are no dual CPU boards...
>meh

>>59255833
What did i say about -only- playing games?

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>>59255835
holy shit are you for real? god damn i've never seen anyone imply so hard and take so much shit out of context before.

please fuck off back to wherever you came from

>>59253837
>Where were you when AMD won our hearts again?


home, wishing i had the money to get an ayymd rig.

Also there need to be more ecc-ready motherboards

>>59255824
>nice reading comprehension and implications there, friend. now go back to school you fucking retarded mongoloid.
I'm mocking you by posting what people here said in the past (mere days ago) and comparing it to what you're saying now, but you just demonstrated to everyone ITT that you're stupid to understand that. Sorry about your low IQ.

Looking forward to this 7700K

>>59255868
>Well the R5 does but it's just the R7 only worse
>And the R7 is kinda inferior to even just a cheap pair of used Xeons
>and well there are no dual CPU boards...
bottom line: price, performance

meh.

>>59255869
>Also there need to be more ecc-ready motherboards
Please ASRock save us.

>>59255824

>They can take the lower powered bins and put into the 8 core chips and save the higher binned for high-end mainstream chips.

what does this mean? that r7 is low binned? lol

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>>59255882
>Well the R5 does but it's just the R7 only worse
implying and baseless bullshit pulled from your ass
>And the R7 is kinda inferior to even just a cheap pair of used Xeons
cherry picking so hard. it's for a single socket board meant to compete with intel's workstation chips
>and well there are no dual CPU boards...
and?
>bottom line: price, performance
AMD wins, beats intel for half the price.

>>59255488
>Practically the same performance of a 5960X
Thanks Anon, looks like I'll be getting Ryzen after all. Killer price to performance in rendering and other multi-threaded applications is also a plus.

>>59255965
>cherry picking so hard. it's for a single socket board meant to compete with intel's workstation chips
um why do you call it cherry picking when I'm just selecting the best thing for my purposes given my budget and goals? it sounds like you're just mad that your favorite product isn't the best so you're taking it out on me by being an ass.

i mean if I want to game I'll just use a 7700K which is better htan the Ryzen in almost every circumstance anyway.. especially when you factor out the things that are better done with a Quadro..

>AMD wins, beats intel for half the price.
um but that's wrong though, in fact I can assemble a nice 2x E5-2670 system with 128GB RAM among other things for less than the cost of just the Ryzen R7 and a mobo with even half of the features... I'm sure you'll say that that doesn't count for one reason or another but not all of us are illogical fanboys anon..

>>59253837
How much DDR4 will Ryzen boards support? Is it really limited at 16GB/DIMM, or can I make a 128+ GB ECC build?

>>59256036
>especially when you factor out the things that are better done with a Quadro..
Lol, we got another one.

>>59256056
64 gb probably

some motherboards will support ecc, some not. AMD confirmed that the CPU will support ecc-memory

>>59256056
64gb

>>59256036
learn to read

R7 competes against intel X99 socket workstation stuff and beats them for half the price.

>um but that's wrong though, in fact I can assemble a nice 2x E5-2670 system with 128GB RAM among other things
no, because AMD havent released their server shit yet. you're comparing two different market segments, stop cherry picking you stupid fuck.

>>59256100
>Lol, we got another one.
?

a cognitively normal person with actual professional experience who knows the difference between bars and charts and real life?

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>>59256216
>zero reading comprehension
>multiple fallacies in every post
>cognitively normal

>>59256126
uh but I understand your point, you're the only one who doesn't get it right now. I'm saying that the R7 is garbage because it doesn't perform particularly well or impressively, it's almost always edged out or only slightly ahead despite being a MOAR COREZ chip

I say again,
>um but that's wrong though, in fact I can assemble a nice 2x E5-2670 system with 128GB RAM among other things

I'm not a middle manager at your shitty company, I look at price and performance, not marketing and other such things..

>>59256245
>thinks he's being logically consistent
>calls out other people on reading comprehension when you lot are dealing things like >>59255824

see also >>59255870

you guys are pathetic..

>>59256106
>>59256104
Where does the limit come from? Surely each Zeppelin die will support 32/64/128 GB DIMMs in Naples MCMs...

>>59256276
That's Naples. Singe Zeppelin die supports 64gb of DDR4.

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>>59256250
>I'm saying that the R7 is garbage because it doesn't perform particularly well or impressively
your fantasy world is skewed from reality, son.

>but i can do this

>>59256270
>>59255870
>still comparing different market segments

>>59256036

>a nice 2x E5-2670 system with 128GB RAM
And a 1700 will still be better price/performance :^)

>>59256332
>>still comparing different market segments
so? dude, do you realize that you can evaluate things from different market segments as an end-user? are you autistic?

>>59256347
>And a 1700 will still be better price/performance :^)
uh, two E5-2670 is $100 shipped, a nice supermicro board is $200-250 shipped, 128GB RAM for it is $200..

meanwhile you're talking about a $500 CPU and a $200 motherboard before you can even consider the rest of the system,.. lmao

delusional AMDtards..
and then there's the 7700K for gaming still...

>inb4 this doesn't count / muh market segment / some other excuse

>>59256393
>comparing two different things that have different uses so his own biased view comes out on top

>>59256421
now tell us what your purpose of this machine is and a benchmark that backs up your claims

>>59256421
1700 is 329 burgers.

>>59256301
Naples is just clusters of Zeppelins. If it can't do 32+GB DIMMs it is already dead. Hence somebody, probably AMD and not the consumer board vendors, is sandbagging on DRAM capacity.

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>>59256036

>e5 2670

It would suck dick at single threaded performance and hardly be faster at perfectly threaded workloads than a single 1700(x) for double the price.

>>59256421
The R7 1700 is $330, desu.
And $100 B350 motherboards can overclock the chip too.

>>59256421
>1700
>$500
kek just stop posting

>7700 for gaming
and AMD hasnt released R5 yet which is the chips that will compete against that, and you again make baseless assumptions and bullshit claims before there's even a leak.
top fucking kek

>>59256475
>>59256490
^ this.

>>59256421

1700 is $320, motherboard is $100~130. And it would still lose at anything not perfectly threaded, and only inch out in perfectly threaded shit.

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>>59256462
>1700 is 329 burgers.
k but it's even worse than the 1800X which is already not great.

pic

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>>59256511
>>59256524
>>59256516
>>59256036
>>59256490
pic #2

and I was talking about the 1800X when I said $500 but you guys are just sperging out and looking for literally anything to contradict me with

tfw can't have an adult conversation because you're all manchildren or just actual children..

>>59256466
1TB support or a 2p board.

>>59256516
>perfectly threaded
stop posting here, you're too stupid for this discussion
>>59256511
>and AMD hasnt released R5 yet which is the chips that will compete against that, and you again make baseless assumptions and bullshit claims before there's even a leak.
>speculative bullshit muh binning

Its kind of sad, as much as people on here bitch about "AMD fanboys" theres easily 10 times the amount of anti-AMD threads on /g/

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>>59256466
https://www.rect.coreto.de/intel-broadwell-mehrsockler/index.php?lang=en&

Here's the current broadwells, seeing up to 512GB for 2P boards.

Here's the Opteron one, dunno if this is the 16 or 32 core, assuming it's the 32 with 8 channels one you can see 24x DIMMs, which would make sense if it's a 3P setup, but that's really fucking weird because I've never seen 3P setups.

Anyhow, they both support around the same amount of memory.

>>59256549
So 64GB DIMMs, 1 DIMM/channel, 8 channels/socket, 2 sockets...

However, I can't imagine AMD would support 2 DPC*4ch configs for 16c32t Naples chips, so each Zeppelin should support 32+GB LRDIMMs etc.

>>59256742
* wouldn't

>>59256742
Snowy Owl is 16 core(either 4 die with 2 disabled cores per CCX or just a 2 core MCM) Naples is 32.

>>59256613
It's literally Intel gorilla marketers.

No seriously, they're even trying to make memes. You can tell because of how dry and unfunny they are and how unusually high effort they are.

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>>59256556
>R7 is binned
>"b-b-but R5 wont be binned, goy!"

>>59256524
>>59256547
>almost 2x Wattage
>CPUmark
thanks for confirming you dont know shit

>>59256844
Snowy Owl is two dies, BGA package.

>>59256847
Are they still trying to make new wojak edits?

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>>59256847
>gorilla marketers
kek
>>59256862
>>R7 is binned
>>"b-b-but R5 wont be binned, goy!"
do you even know basic english? holy fuck

are all AMD fanboys THIS fucking stupid? jeez man

>>59256864
>BGA
Xeon-D competitor?

>>59256864
Source? Would be nicer than a 4 die MCM with 2 cores disabled per CCX I've been hearing about.
Or maybe not because you lose I/O, but I believe AMD has server chipsets with sufficient support for that.

>>59256862
>almost 2x Wattage
It's for a workstation, you just suspend to s3 when you're done, you're not putting Ryzen in a server either

these kids man..

why don't they just make the cpu 4 times as big and put 32 cores, who says it needs to be the size of a postage stamp? and its literally just a laser engraving on worthless silicone is it not?

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>>59256880
double confirmed schlomo

>>59256895
>suspending means you dont actually use more power while it's under load
>kids

>>59256888
Yup.

>>59256919
The bigger the die, the lesser are yields.

>>59256936
>>suspending means you dont actually use more power while it's under load
>>kids
yeah dude, throughout your workday you're really going to use so much power that the disparity between 1x ryzen and 2x e5-2670 is going to drive your energy bill up an appreciable amount

do you even pay electricity? have you ever actually looked into what it costs and what the differences between these CPUs would be in real life under normal circumstances? top kek

you're just wasting my time now, this is a competition to see which of us is a bigger retard and is willing to waste more time
congrats you win I don't care

buy your shitty cpu

>>59256936
Ryzen's main advantage is idle power draw, not load power draw.

>>59256990
It's both, the 1700 8 core draws 57 watts under AVX loads.
You're gonna have a hard time finding a current Xeon that does that.

>>59256892
The LGA socket is SP3.
BGA parts are SP4.

SP4 only supports quad channel. Its 2 dies.

>>59257032
Thanks for explaining.

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>>59256990
It most definitely is load power draw.
Stock 1800X only pulls 110w under a 100% load.
At 3.3ghz on all cores it pulls under 60w.

>>59256980
dude, brah, man, bro, mane. you're comparing a brand new chip with a 5 year old double socket that you're using second hand prices for...

>>59256670
>1x OCP mezz

What are those mezzazzine NICs used for? 40GbE?

>AMD
>Only good at winning certain benchmarks
>useless in real world performance apart from stuff that'll help you be a youtube star
>BUT IT'S CHEAPER IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES LEL
Truly the millennial's CPU of choice.

>>59257032
WTF. Will there not be socketed 16c platforms?

>>59256847
Has there ever been any hard evidence of actual shills here and not tin foil? I'm more inclined to believe it has always been those that do it for free due to the amount of nut jobs that exist on the Internet. They really will devote their existence to defending a company/product. I'm not saying it wouldn't happen but I just can't see it being that effective. Better to just buy off some Youtube reviewers to shill your shit since they have far more influence on consumer purchases.

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>>59257078
>almost same performance for less cost
>"HAHA AMD IS SHIT AND DEAD IT'S OVER!!!! EGGSDEE!!!1"

>>59257108
Yes, goy, AMD IS OVER. NOW GO AND FUCKING BUY INTEL CPUS YOU GOYIM ANIMAL.

>>59257097
>Has there ever been any hard evidence of actual shills here and not tin foil?
Blackberry hired a marketing company to spam social media when the Passport launched, and a bunch of them spammed it here too.

>>59257064
Anyone?

>>59257108
>almost the same performance
>*as Intels 5 year old shit with double the cores and threads
>'le new architecture to end Intel forever
>literally underwhelming and only competing in terms of price
Wow, what a terrible waste of silicone fabrication

>>59257175
Yeah, ethernet or IB, up to 100 Gb for either in general.

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>>59257204
>5 year old shit
>barely any IPC improvement
>meanwhile, AMD jumped 50% up in IPC over last generation

>>59257097
But it's not nuts, /g/ have always supported quality products, and as a whole, 4chan has called out hypocrisy.

Rational thought is winning against fanboyism, but they are too blind to see

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>>59257259
>AMD is competitive again
>"n-no they're not! BAD GOY!"
>Rational thought
>not fanboyism

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>>59257242
>going from total dogshit to underwhelming dogshit

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>>59257288
Wow, what's that 6900 even doing.

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>>59257290
>made intel lower their prices for first time in a decade
>underwhelming dogshit

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>>59257325
>>59257305
>>59257288

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>>59257288
>>59257305
>>59257325
>look at my cherry picked benchmarks of programs that aren't fully multi-threaded

>>59257322
except that was fake news, nothing but usual microcenter sales

intel didn't lower shit.

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>>59254323
>we

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>>59257381
>what are consumers
you and me, we.

>>59257288
>>59257305
> GDI rendering

Is this something people actaully care about, or am I being trolled?

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Is it actually plausible that a BIOS update can make it faster, /g/

>>59257397
see >>59257339
and notice he havent posted any of the results where Ryzen is on top yet.

yes it's 10/10 cherry picking

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>>59257361
I always assumed photoshop was a highly threaded application but it looks like it really isn't.

>>59257361
>>59257343
>>59257325
>2 second runtimes

Is this some gay filter faggotry?
Why would anyone bother multithreading a function that finishes this fast?

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>>59257413
Delete your stupid cat pic, only kot is allowed on /g/

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>>59255344
And the 7700k is cheaper by ~$180

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Comparing baught and sold benchmarks is like comparing a 100mhz processor to a 4Gz proccessor while playing the original doom in a dark room.

You get the better results on the 4Gz Pentium obviously, but why dont You try and see the actual results with Your actual eyes.

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>>59253837
>>59253941

>>59257431
It is, but photoshop and generally Adobe software is a big pile of shit with a million different filters and postprocessing.
A lot of them aren't threaded.
This guy seems to not notice he's posting single threaded benchmarks, and over half of them finish in under 2 seconds, which is quite funny.

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>>59253837
At my job, in the real world, software platforms like Cinebench and 7Zip are the lifeblood of our core operating thesis. AMD has completely 360'd our entire workflow paradigm! I'm on track to get 200% more production year over year. My bonus structure is completely on the next level.

Thank you based AMD those of us in the business world owe you a tremendous debt of gratitude.

>>59255811
/thread

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>>59257479
Implying those gains are worth the trade offs and 160 dollars extra.

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>>59257549
when will you post the ones where AMD wins, you know those with actual multi-threading?

The fuck is this dump. Is he having a stroke?

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>>59254433
No the whole complaint is that the 160 extra nets you a little bit of gain in a handful of scenarios whereas the cheaper i7 _mostly_ matches or exceeds the 500 dollar AMD part.

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>>59256613
I'm on the right side for once, lemme bash

>>59257594
because it's meant to compete with the X99 chips not the mainstream i7's you tard.

if the R5 chips has the same bad results in games then you can start saying this is Faildozer 2.0. until then you're being a fucking retard for comparing two different market segments in something which isn't it's main purpose.

>>59254959
He specifically said rendering you halfwit, not general HPC.

>>59253837
Finally, I probably spend half my day encoding zip files, need to get one ASAP

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>>59257573

He's autisming

Oh look 7700 vs 1800

This is popcorn =)

What next, 8750 lol?

The only ryzen haters are stupid gaymur kids

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>>59257568
He's cherrypicking from this page.
If you wanna take a look.
That page 9 and page 10 are the productivity workloads.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-cpu,4951-9.html

>>59257648
Brat a cute.

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>>59257642
>7700 beats 6900
oh look another test that's not fully threaded, what a surprise!

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>>59257656
i know

>>59257683
Others might not.

>>59257696
Considering it's painfully easy to google THG review others will know.

>>59257661
>>59257642
>>59257621
This guy seems pretty desperate

>>59257722
You underestimate laziness.

>>59257696
we've already called him out on that like 5 times.

>>59257568
"actual"

>>59257729
After the initial kneejerk gaming reactions it took him 2 days to figure out (or someone told him) that it's competitive with a 6900k so he has to restart his shitposting.
It's kinda cute, I hope he's paid for this, nobody should do this for free.

>>59257656
>>59257683

>cherry picking
>Intel better at 99.99% of games
>Intel better at 99.99% of desktop and office programs
>Intel better at 75% of workstation applications

meanwhile
>Ryzen better at 65% of scientific/engineering applied when it isn't crashing
>Ryzen better at 60% of encodes
>Ryzen better at 60% of compression

hmmmm

>>59257750
meant for >>59257727

>>59257750
Never underestimate the power of pure autism.

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>>59257661
>5 minutes since last post
are you done now?

>>59257760
>only posting the benchmarks that cant use all the cores/threads
when 7700 beats the 6900 it's pretty fucking obvious cherry picking

>>59256880
WTF IS THIS GIF?

I kind of feel this initial benchmarks are worth ignoring since theres clear immaturities to the the platform.

Hopefully when the R5 drops it'll work out better.

>>59257288
>>59257305
>>59257325
>>59257343
>>59257361
>>59257378
>>59257393
>>59257409
>>59257427
>>59257450
>>59257466
>>59257487
>>59257502
>>59257524
>>59257549
>>59257577
>>59257598
>>59257621
>>59257642
>>59257661

intel shills out in full force

>>59256880
DIS BITCH SHIT HERSELF ON STAGE?

>>59257790
>when 7700 beats the 6900 it's pretty fucking obvious cherry picking

the 7700 IS BETTER than the fucking 6900 you dumbass.

>>59257790
>>59257760
also the R7 isnt meant to compete in the mainstream market, aka gaming. That's the R5 that's coming in Q2

now fuck off you retarded fanboy nigger

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Reminder that AMD is a company for sick fucks and criminal activity, look at these encryption benchmarks.
You can literally double the speed of encrypting your stash

>>59257813
then why is the 6900 over a grand

>>59257813
>comparing consumer delid lake to HEDT Broadwell

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>>59257813
>7700: 8 threads
>6900: 16 threads

>>59257813
>the 7700 IS BETTER than the fucking 6900 you dumbass.
No it's not, the 6900k has twice the effective throughput and on chip bandwidth.

>>59257827
>every certificate server and https host switches to Naples

Unless they're running RSA or some shit, they should kill themselves then

>>59257813
Only a idiot would get a 7700k if someone offered him a 6900k for the same price.

>>59257813
>>59257840
>>59257845
>7700 is 10% faster in single threaded
>gets beaten by 6900 in multithreaded by 5%

literally every benchmark posted above is cherry picked because they dont use all the threads of the R7

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>>59257904

>>59257811
Yes, 16 benchmarks all out to get AMD. It's a conspiracy

>>59257830
>>59257833
>>59257840
>>59257845

The AMDelusion strikes again. Keep sucking up that marketing cum. At least Intel had the decency to drop their bullshit back in 2009 when none of their predictions about software came true but AMD never stopped.

The person who posted ""actual"" is probobly the same guy posting baught and paid for benchmark pictures.

Ladies and gents, its not about doxing anybody.

4chan is about the truth with a touch of funny.

This is why I as an Individual am here or elsewhere.

My comment about the 100mhz vs 4gz in a dark room has meaning, meaning You think.

He or she has numbers and graphs thinking those things is the key to our hearts.

There is no key, there is only painful truth that we sometimes laugh at.

The globalists for profit will never understand this =)

>>59257656
>Cherry picking
>16 benchmarks
That some mighty fine cherry bush

>>59257904
>>59257929
>5%
i dont know where i got that from. but the blue is the 6900 and orange the 7700

>>59257934
>delusion
see >>59257929

>>59257813
Heard it here folks, get a 7700k for your SAP workload because your 12 core Xeon is slower in Skyrim

>>59257929
>It's not cherry picking if I do it!
Now post 15 more benchmarks where they win.

>>59257953
Yep, you sure told the 0.000001% of users on /v/ who even knows what that means.

>>59257827
>using built in aes-ni and clmul botnet instructions

>>59257964
/v/ can kindly go castrate themselves on the heat of a undelied 7700k

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>>59257954
>post other benchmarks that aren't properly multithreaded to prove that i these non-threaded benchmarks arent cherrypicked
top fucking kek

>all this /v/-tier shitposting
Will it ever stop?

>>59257999
No, they're here to stay.
Best not talk to them, they bite and stab and can try to burn your body to hide the evidence.

>>59257978
Yes, good keep shilling to the masses about the reasons to get Ryzen which fits no ones uses.

>>59257997
>My car can only go fast in straights
>It's the tracks and racing's fault that my car isn't winning.

Please kys.

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>>59258026
>there's no use for Ryzen7
So why have people bought X99 when there's no use?

>>59258045
Y-yes, every non-delid lake CPU is useless, goy.

>>59258026

>AMD Ryzen pre-launch these processors are better than Intel AT EVERYTHING
>AMD Ryzen post-launch stop looking at 99% of your software library where Intel runs better; you don't even understand who these CPUs are made for

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>>59258038
>compare 8 cylinder 3.0 car with 16 cylinder 2.5 car but only allow it to use half of the cylinders
>not cherrypicking

>>59258106
>buy our processor that runs great on programs that don't exist

>>59257124
We're still here.

:^)

>>59258131

evidence of a shill, a sight to behold

>>59258131
Yet BB is no longer with us. :^)

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>>59258124
>comparing workstation chip with mainstream chip in applications that cant use all the threads of one of the chips

>>59258149
Muh keyboards.

>>59258152
Tom's hardware did that and Intel still came out on top:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-cpu,4951-9.html

>>59258173
>7700 above 6900
again, not properly threaded. how fucking retarded are you?

>>59258197
Some don't even need to be, no small number of those tests finish in under 2 seconds, there's one ITT that's only 0.66 seconds, these aren't benchmarks, these are sunspider-tier.

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>>59258224

>>59258197
Yeah cause there are so few programs in existence that are even properly threaded...why is this so hard for you to understand ?

Like its not even a case of the majority of programs aren't well threaded. Practically ALL programs are not well threaded.

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>>59258173
I mean these benchmarks are nice and all but Tom's Hardware themselves say their results may not be indicative of actual performance.

AMD beats out Intel with 8GB of 2133 ram vs 16GB in their baught and paid benchmarks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rUndzpdo1I

They both play the same game but... AMD kicked Intels arse.

>>59258268
then why did people buy X99

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/v/tards burned their brain at last
>l-look at all these charts where 6900k loses to 7700k in shitty threaded benches
>c-check my autistic chart spamming abilities
>i-i never wanted 6900k anyway

Thanks for the laughs really

>>59258224
>sunspider
Talk about nostalgia, I remember back some 4-5 years ago when every browser thread had that, people were actually testing their snapdraggons against x86 CPUs, then Microsoft came in with their IE9, introduced dead code elimination, practically cheated on it, the place went up in flames and soon sunspider was forgotten because it wasn't objective anymore due to JS engine tricks.

>>59258268
16+ core Opterons and Xeons exist because hurr durr, 64 core XeonPHi's exist because hurrdurr2

Get a trip so I can filter you.

>>59258269
You realize those efforts don't happen in any short amount of time ? The soonest it could happen Intel will already have 8th gen stuff out. In all likelyhood it will come to fruition in the same timeline as the 9th 10th or even 11th gen Intel stuff is out. The hardware market will be totally different.

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Ryzen for the handful of usage scenarios where it can excel AND you will be doing that very often.

Intel for everyone else or for people doing a mix of production work or gaming.

>>59258337
That's a DP connector.

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>>59258268
>i dont need/want a workstation chip that beat's intel's option while costing less than half therefore no one should buy it

>>59258324
They're not writing GPU support here, support for x86 arches literally means adjusting cache hits, this isn't much more than a few dozen lines of code.

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>>59255488

>>59258337
>ryzen for stuff you do
>intel for the stuff you do


No shit?
Holy shit man your post is too broad.

>>59258324
Tom's pointed them out so the devs would know about the issues, maybe having them posted will alert AMD to applications that still need optimization

>>59258355
now disable all but one core on the R7 and clock it to 6GHz

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>>59258397

>implying normies will do it

>>59258410
now post the intel version

>>59258379
Any industry stuff that's unoptimized AMD will be informed by suits, these guys don't look at benchmarks on tom's, they ask for samples to test out their workloads and call them back and if they can introduce the new racks and lower TCO then they'll buy.

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>>59258355
I like this cool story better though

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>>59258428

>>59258461
Steve is AMD shill now? Make up your mind

>>59253837
>7-zip
I see no reason to buy anything but cheaper used hardware in 2017, but why would I give a shit about this even if I was buying new? What dull husk of a person makes a purchasing decision solely based on 7-zip performance?

Everyone is shills shilling other shills.

>>59258461
>benchmarking in applications that cant use all the threads
>"L-LOOK! AMD IS SHIT, TOTALLY NOT THE APPLICATION THAT'S LIMITING PERFORMANCE!!!!"
i can sense your desperation from here.

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>>59258458

The guys bought that overpriced CPU for just gaming are the incredible fools period. This also applies to someone who will buy $500 1800X.

>>59258504
your typical /g/ autist that is too cool for games and mainstream software so their only joy in life is compiling linux.

>>59253837
They found a benchmark where it's good!

>>59258507

how do you shill a shill

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>>59258507

Yeah, but AMDshills are very desperate. See >>59258410

>>59258513
>not just overclocking the 1700x

it's going to be another phenom ii. buy the lowest clock and oc it to the fucking sky

>>59258513
the real fools are the intel drones that compare a workstation chip in tests that arent multithreaded with a mainstream chip and claim it's a flop when AMD's mainstream competitor isnt even released yet

>>59258513
$330 1700 overclocks to 1800x levels though.

>>59258461
some mobos had BIOS issues. also, games run better when you disable SMT, because retarded windows still doesn't have proper drivers.
that's not cheating, at all.


unlike intel... >>59258447

>>59258504
Compression programs like 7zip are extremely sensitive to changes in clock speed, number of cores, and memory bandwidth. They're useful for gauging the performance of different processors in various ways. Not exactly an interesting benchmark though

>>59258560
>running windows

why are you even here when 90% of games now either run flawlessly in WINE or have linux ports?

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>>59258548
Spotted the Nvidia Damage Control brigade!

>>59258504
lots of file formats are actually compressed files. games also use compression heavily.

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>>59258560
>Reminder that the Intel compiler cheats against AMD CPUs
why am i not surprised

>>59258593
>implying I use windows
aren't we talking about the benchmarks? context, m8

>>59258557
>intel drones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BiKQPZUZPw


AMD themselves are intel drones ?

>>59258599
I'm surprised you didn't know of that since it's 10 year old news.

>>59258599
Technically it doesn't just affect AMD CPUs but VIA hasn't release anything worth a damn in years so they're not really impacted

>>59258625
i didnt look at the date and i dont have eidetic memory

>>59258102
happens almost every time for some companies' releases
>amd claims improvements over their last product, and not much more
>last week before release it suddenly gets hyped to heaven
>and then we get endless shitposting because it didn't live up to the impossible hype, declaring the product a complete failure

with the frequency it happens I have to wonder if it's not a shill tactic (marketing) companies employ to discredit competitors

>>59258662
Kinda hard to forget about compiler fuckery if you're interested in computers to any serious degree.
I mean this board talks about gcc all the time, its only real alternative is ICC and MSVC, hard to forget.

>>59257594
>completely new architecture doesn't quite beat $1000 + cpus with years of development in dated games, but still takes it out to pasture in actual productivity tasks.
>DOA

Fucking Intel and their damage control...

>>59258696
not everyone is a nerd like you

>>59258713
Then fuck off back to /v/ and 'discuss' topics more on your level.

>>59258727
Considering the amount of gaymen benchmarks posted, this is /v/.

>>59258711
Intel fanboys forget all the Sandy Bridge bugs on launch, the Skylake bugs, the numerous motherboard chipset bugs.
Intel doesn't have good launches either, but they have a better PR team to handle things, which likely includes paying sites not to cover certain sensitive topics.

>>59258740
Fair point.

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>>59258727
>if you're interested in computers you have to know this i know otherwise you're a /v/ kiddie
fuck off you assburger autist

>>59258741
Intel fanboys are underage and likely to not even be here during SB to Skylake, some might have come here just last summer.

>>59258758
(you).

>>59258741
It literally does.
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/56457/intel-scrambles-emails-tech-media-over-ryzen-reviews/index.html

I've also seen Intel fan boys here quite literally defending this.

>>59258741
Intel fanboy were still in their diapers when Sandy Bridge was released

>>59258696
>gcc all the time, its only real alternative is ICC and MSVC
Apple was happily using clang+llvm last I checked?