THE GREAT DEBATE http://www.strawpoll.me/12465411

4k is a meme.

1440p 120Hz ULMB

>>59243116
1440p is for people who can afford a good monitor but cant throw their shekels away whenever they want

144hz is a meme.

i just plug the hdmi cable into a tv
tvs don't have high enough standards to worry about

>>59243084
4K 144Hz

>>59243128
both monitors are usually about the same price

1080p 60hz here, my chinese cartoons are already upscaled enough thank you very much

>>59243084
4k 60Hz is fucking garbage.

>>59243216
t. never used one

where did the 144hz meme start? /r/pcmasterrace?

>>59243084
Are you playing gaymes?
144hz
Are you watching movies?
4k

>>59243261
Fast arcade shooters

Anything above 1080p is a shitty meme unless you're like 60 inches+

>>59243261
It's only benefit is to top-tier literal professional gamers, the benefits being a few ms faster and that TN panels have weak blacks, so it gives you an advantage in dark areas.

If you want your games to look good, even if you are a gaming enthusiast, get 4k.

>>59243223
sure have, shit for brains. using one now. it's fucking garbage. 144Hz all the fucking way!

>>59243378
i can detect that you are not telling the truth

>>59243084
none, native 1080p for everything at 240hz fucking absolute godrace non-negotiable

For gaming 1440p 144hz.
For productivity 4k 60hz.

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>>59243404
>i can detect that you are not telling the truth
eat your words.

>>59243315
>gaming enthusiast
>4k
No. Just no.

>>59243084


refresh rate has been so fucking over memed. knobs take their gaymen "experience" too seriously

>>59243293
Man, FPS gamers are so retarded. If I listen to one more 19 year old talk about how important it is to have FPS five times larger than their monitor's refresh rate "because of mouse input" I'm going to shove the WinAPI manual down their neck.

>>59243084

16k @ 1,728hz

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Rrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeedit!

>>59243479
>muh 144hz

you are the real reddit

>>59243479
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/4iu2t3/4k_60fps_vs_1440p_144hz/

>>59243433
Wouldnt mind if you stopped tracking me. But the real question is can you track my iPad resolution?

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i would like 4k 60fps for single player relaxing games and then 1440p 144hz for online multiplayer games that require precision.

im leaning towards 4k because i can only see 144hz being a benefit for online shooters. anything else you guys think its good for? fighting games are locked to 60fps anyway, and moba and rts games and such i hardly imagine would benefit from fast refresh.

>>59243571
>Wouldnt mind if you stopped tracking me.
Done. I've stopped my psychic tracking.

>>59243591
>How...how did you do this?
Which part confuses you, anon?

>>59243525
You can't tell the difference between the two from viewing distance, brainlet.

For that reason, you should go for the higher frame rate.

>>59243604
tick rate of battlefield one servers is 60hz anyway

>have 1440p 60hz IPS
>have 1080 144hz TN

best of both worlds
play ck2 on the IPS, play overwatch on the TN
they're good for different things

>>59243084
>no 1600p 120Hz mustard race

Come on man, some of us run CRT's

4K 100hz

>>59243604
>144hz is important for accuracy in a setting that involves adding a random amount of delay and has mechanics which are handled server-side with a fixed tick-rate which has nothing to do with the client display.
100% placebo.

>>59243604
I play FPS games like CSGO, Overwatch, and Battlefield at 1080p 144hz. I got the 144hz monitor after my 60hz one died. You will notice it's much smoother with the right hardware, I'm pretty casual but I haven't noticed my skill improve at all. If I had to buy a new monitor today, I'd probably go 1440p or 4k at 60hz, because 144hz hasn't been significant enough for me to justify spending the extra money.

That's just my opinion, keep in mind I don't play these games super competitively.

>>59243625
I sit less than a foot from my monitor so yes I can

Neither

>>59243126
I've tested ULMB 120hz vs natural 144hz and 144hz is better.

For reaction time games at last

the answer is 8k 240 hz.
period.

>>59243084
Anyone who would prefer 4K over 144Hz has never used a 144Hz monitor.

i cant go back to 60hz after having 144hz in my life

1440p 144hz now
4k 144hz in a few years

>>59243765
I have and I prefer my 4k one

>>59243084
1080p 60hz
Why would I need more

>>59243084
>144Hz
/v/irgin
>4k
/g/entooman

/thread

>>59243778
1080p 144Hz is the patrician choice

>>59243782
You have it backwards: /v/irgins are the ones always creaming their pants about "MUH 4K" whereas /g/entoomen actually care about things that matter, like frequency.

>>59243775
this is why I haven't upgraded from 1080p 60fps yet

I'm poor.

I enter this kind of threads to cry.

>>59243834
suck my dick for a twenty?

>>59243680
Lmao, nice lies, faggot

>>59243796
frequency only matters for quickly moving images >>>/v/
whereas you want higher resolution to display more information/text >>>/g/

>>59243834
save up

>>59243858
Osu is a thinking man's game

>>59243315
this is wrong. the difference between 60 hz and 144 hz is night and day.

>>59243084
Anyone who chooses 1440p 144hz should fuck off back to >>>/v/

>>59243084
100 4K 60 monitors available
6 1440p 144hz monitors available

>>59243796
What is a high refresh rate even good for besides gayming? I don't do that anyways. I might consider upgrading to 1440p for more screen space.

>>59243855
wut

The human eye can't see above 1fps so why does it matter?

why didnt you add "I literally do not care" to the vote?

>>59243678
>CSGO, Overwatch, and Battlefield
you are a fucking meme
commit self-murder

>>59244141
to stop faggots like you

>>59244178
>stop liking what I don't like!
What about racing games?

>>59243084
My answer would depend on whether the human eye can sample more than 30hz

>>59244178
this isn't /v/ my autistic nigga

>>59243084
4k is a meme.
all it does is weaken your gpu

>>59244682
it's funny because 144hz literally is a meme

>4k
>more on screen

>144hz
>"""""""smoother""""""" movement

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>>59244723
Yeah, why aren't we at 64k yet?

>>59243451
Who said anything about having a framerate faster than their refreshrate besides a frame or two? Who ever does? The only time I hear this is in Call of Duty where it literally allows you to jump higher.
I'll assume you're retarded and just pissed off about high refreshrates instead. Here's a cool story: one day I accidentally locked myself to 60hz in Serious Sam. I wasn't doing so well, I complained my that my aim felt "delayed" while struggling to track enemies as they fly by me. 144hz unlocked, my sense fluidity and presence doubled, making it far easier to kill and switch targets.

tl;dr You're a jelly faggot, and 144hz feels better than 4k if you're a gaymer

I have a 27in 1440p 144hz monitor and like it a ton. I have a 4k 60hz screen at work for tasks and it is nice as well.

Someone else mentioned 4k for single player and 144hz for multiplayer shooters and such. That's my preference too, but I prefer the 'smoothness' over the sharpness of 4k

>>59243084
I like 1080p at 60Hz on an IPS screen

>>59243290
>Are you watching movies?
>4k

Enjoy the pixelated mess of your HDRips

>>59244843
why does her hair make out cat ears? what is this obsession with fucking animals :(

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framerate over resolution

>>59244869
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjWSRTYV8e0

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>>59243880
And yet you are still stuck in silver league in your league of losers gayme. Difference is literally not even fucking visible for anything that is not csgo or similar gaym and even then there are better ways at getting good than sending more of your mums money to merchant.
I mean, sure you can start moving your cursor around like a fucking madman and be like "look you can see how much better my 144hz is!!!" but why would you?
For majority of shit that you will be doing on PC you are not going to utilize this retarded refresh rate. And by that I mean working, watching movies, browsing internets, even for majority of gaymes 144hz won't make much difference.

>>59243981
Nothing.

>>59243126
120Hz is twice the meme

>>59243084

1080 @ 60 Hz

>>59243084
>Use computer for work
4k, scaling is shit though on winbotnet

>Use computer for games
If you play online FPS, 1440p
If you play AAA and has flagship GPU, 4k

Richfag usally has a dedicated monitor for gaymin and for work anyway.

1440p 60Hz because I don't play gaymes.
Even if I did, the only games that would benefit from absurd refresh rates like that are twitch shooters, which I didn't play even as a child.

stupid question

The physical resolution limit for the light of two sources diffracted through a circular hole is given by the formula Θ=1.22*λ/D. Considered an average wavelength of 500nm, and an average aperture of the pupil of 5mm, the angular resolution of the human eye is roughly 1.2E-4 rad.

This means that an human eye can't physically tell two pixels that are less than 0.1mm apart when seen from 1m distance, so basically at that distance, or higher, every monitor with a resolution of 250ppi or higher is useless. At half the distance, the limit doubles. A 4k 27 inch monitor has a pixel density of 163 ppi.

This means the human eye can perceive the difference between a 4k and a 1080p monitor from average viewing distances. This means that buying a 4k @ 60Hz screen is better than buying a 1440p @ 144Hz screen.

>>59243084
you can't go back from 144hz monitor, it just feels too good

>>59243084
>running at less than 1 Ghz
top pleb

768p 60hz enough for me.

>you will never need bigger than 128Mb HDD

actual engineers are not luddite scum
at least that soothes my mind about humanity fate

>>59249293
yeah because screen resolution has anything to do with performance.

>>59243084

4k 60hz to avoid the cancer that is TN panels

>>59249232
thats size, how about speed?

>>59249293
It's not about never needing. It's about cost/benefit analysis. 144Hz provides no benefit for anyone except assfaggots players at a great cost. 4k screens provide no benefits to the majority of people, professional or casual, at great cost. Eventually both of these features will be priced such that cost/benefit doesn't matter, but that day is not today.

>>59249346
>144Hz provides no benefit for anyone except assfaggots players at a great cost.
it provides increased quality of life= worth it
get 144hz monitor first, experience it, than talk about benefits

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>>59248891
>>59243981

You are literal retards. I have a 60hz screen right now and even though you get used to it, it is so fucking tiresome.

Just switching to 75Hz you can already tell the difference just looking at the desktop, it is easier on the eyes, it feels much smoother.

I'm not telling you I need 144Hz for anything other than playing stupid FPS gaymes, but going anything below at least 75Hz is fucking retarded unless you are a poorfag like myself, 85Hz is the patrician choice, you need no more and no less than that for a natural smooth image and a healthy environment for your eyes that have to stare at it for hours.

I'm think of getting a 1080p 85hz monitor when I save some bucks.

For 1440p I'm in a very small place and would be too much.

4k is literally fucking retarded for anything except watching movies, what the actual fuck is wrong with you autistic spergs? Is like you have no sense of how to use things, if tomorrow an 8K display comes out you'll use it for WORK in your PC? You make me sick.

This board is full of fucking idiots that do not know how to use technology.

>>59249399
>Increased quality of life
Lol. Most media is 24fps. People doing real work or scrolling Facebook aren't going to care if their scrolling or mouse movements look slightly smoother. The one and only place 144Hz provides a real benefit is assfaggots and RN:GO.

>>59249424
>You can tell the difference just looking at the desktop. It is easier on the eyes
Stopped reading here.

>>59249439
Stay in denial.

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>>59249458
>Static image looks better because the refresh rate is higher
Everything you said after that is suspect and likely delusion.

Ever seen one of these images? This is basically what you just said.

8k 240hz oled

>dead end resolution for muh gaymin
meaningless argument
not much longer before 4k 100+hz

>>59243084
"Debate" 140hz all the way
Comparing resolution to Hz is retarded

>>59249232
>using theoretical limits for practical applications
Normal human vision is defined as 1 arc minute, or 2.9E-4 rads.
At 1m this gives a height of 0.29mm, which is ~87ppi.
At a more reasonable 50cm it gives 0.15mm, or ~176 ppi. Which is a 25 inch 4k or a 16.6 inch 1440p

144 Hz 1440p + super resolution >> 4K 60 Hz

>>59249430
just rent 144hz monitor or something, I use one for a year, I can instantly tell when something 60hz now

1440p 165hz

4k is a meme resolution and overkill on a monitor

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>>59249477
>FPS and refresh rate are the same

No man, just no.

First even if that image was taken at different refresh rates, MY monitor is running at 60hz so they will look the same to me, precisely because like you say: they are static images. It is like trying to watch a 3D movie in a 2D monitor (not exactly, but you get my point, I hope)

Have you never seen a CRT monitor at less than 60Hz? Let's say 50Hz or less? You can notice the blinking. Well, with higher frequencies is the same, it is way more subtle, but the eye has to do more work the lower the frequency, the more hours you spend in front of the monitor the more you notice it.

La Forge ended like this for using 60hz screens.

>>59248479
Well, is it true?
Though gamers really are always bitching about placebo this, placebo that, thinking the latest patch, commandline argument or setting "broke" their game.

>>59249672
Do you have an actual source for a negative correlation between eyestrain and refresh rate?

>>59249424
Holy shit you are fucking stupid. Did you ever wonder why all monitors made for actual WORK, including overpriced Eizio shit that you will never be able to afford, are 60hz? Because it doesn't fucking matter. Maybe stop comparing your poorfag 10 year old monitor and take a look at some decent modern 60hz dell IPS. How do you even imagine increasing refresh rate would make monitor easier on your eyes?

>>59249702
>>59249728
If the image blinks 60 times per second, the eye can notice (even if you can't), if it blinks more times per second, you reduce what your eye can detect, therefore it does less work and takes longer to get tired.

I'm struggling to find decent source that doesn't refer specifically to CRT monitors though, I have to admit.

>>59243084
/v/tards will choose 1, intelligent people 2

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>>59243084
ITT: poorfags trying to find an excuse why they can't afford two Titan XPs.

>>59249728
Yes, and most mattresses sold around the world are shit-tier quality.

Meanwhile you can purchase a good one. Or just keep sleeping on a rock and shitposting, faggot.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11014/asus-demonstrates-rog-swift-pg27uq-4k-144-hz-hdr-dcip3-and-gsync

4K 120Hz

>>59249728
>Did you ever wonder why all monitors made for actual WORK, including overpriced Eizio shit that you will never be able to afford, are 60hz?
It would make their job a lot harder if consumer suddenly wanted 120hz as the standard.
Its the same reason console game developers claim 30FPS is more cinematic and better for story telling.

ITT sheep trying to justify shelling out for shitty ricer gamer-branded TN 144hz panels

>>59250891
144hz 1440p IPS here, its got the perfect number of pixels, great colors and runs buttery smooth, my dream monitor achieved
(_)_):::::::::JELLY:::::::::::D

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you can visually see a GIGANTIC difference between 60hz and 144hz

4k looks a little sharper and clearer, but it actually can't compete

>>59252773
t. poorfag 144hz fag

>>59250687
>Its the same reason console game developers claim 30FPS is more cinematic and better for story telling.
What developer has ever claimed this ?

>>59243765
I have used neither and I prefer 144hz 1440p

>>59249672
CRTs flicker because they fire an electron beam which draws lines across the phosphor coated screen, lighting it up, briefly. The phosphors begin to dim immediately, and by the time they are lit up again, already have lost luminance.

An LCD displays the entire image all at once, and the image stays there until the next refresh. There is no loss of luminance, no flicker, and no eye strain.

High refresh rate is nice, but lots of games don't support it. I would rather stick to standards that are certain to work.

>>59243084
Once 4K 144Hz Freesync is available, I'll upgrade.

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>>59254197
>Freesync
you're upgrading the wrong part, mate

>>59255425
yeah freesync 2 should be out by then

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DELL ULTRASHARP 4K 144HZ IPS FREESYNC/GSYNC WHEN

>>59243720

Thats 32 1080p 60 Hz monitors worth of bandwidth.

The problem is not the Screen or the Computer.

https://learn.usa.canon.com/resources/articles/2012/5d3_clean_hdmi_out.htmlp
Scroll all the way down to the last picture.

>>59243084
I'm trying to replace my old 1080p monitors with 2 1440 monitors. Probably 32 inchers because why not. Any suggestions?

WHICH ONE /g/!
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-PB328Q-2560x1440-DisplayPort-Monitor/dp/B00XI4PAD2/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1488750559&sr=1-2&keywords=monitor&refinements=p_n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin%3A6570749011%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_browse-bin%3A5779382011%2Cp_n_size_browse-bin%3A3547808011

or

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-WQHD-LED-Monitor-S32D850T/dp/B00L3KNOF4/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1488750559&sr=1-1&keywords=monitor&refinements=p_n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin%3A6570749011%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_browse-bin%3A5779382011%2Cp_n_size_browse-bin%3A3547808011

I'm only looking to spend about that much on each monitor I buy.

All I do is shitpost and play rocket league and the likes so I dont need anything super blow me away

>>59249285
>11:07:07
720p anon here

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4K 144hz HDR G-Sync QD IPS or get the fuuuuuck outtaaa here

144 Hz is a higher frequency than your eye neurons can deal with (ca 20-30 ms cool down time = 40-50 Hz) and 4 K is a higher resolution than your eyes have unless you sit 30cm away from the screen

I have 1440p@60hz that was $300. Expensive af for a monitor

>>59243196
Ips 4k lg27ud58 goes on sale fairly often for 399$ cad
Much less than any 1440p 144hz panel. Especially ips
And the 4k has freesync. I have two of them

>>59256813
go fuck yourself grandpa

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>>59243084
1440p 144hz owner.
Fuck 1440p
I upgraded from 1080p and it doesn't look that much better.
You would think a 40% increase in pixel density would be amazing, but it's not.

Not I have a screen that look marginally better than 1080p with 2/3 the frame rate.

Waiting for 4K 144hz to become affordable.

>>59243084
Why is this even a debate? 1440p144 for gaming, 2160p60 for everything else.

>>59256813
It's not about pushing more info through your retina, it's making moving things look natural whether you're tracking them with your gaze or not. Strobing helps tracked objects look sharp but needs 100+ Hz to not cause eye strain from flicker, and non-tracked objects don't jump around discontinuously per frame with higher fps.

>>59256898
I agree, why is it even a debate. Once you have a 144hz monitor, you literally will not go back to 60hz.

60hz is a piece of shit and laggy as fuck once you even use a 144hz monitor. Anyone who says otherwise obviously has not used one, so there is no debate.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sop=15&LH_ItemCondition=3&_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=120hz+TV&rt=nc&LH_BIN=1

Not exactly what You want, But this simple search Should get You Started.

On a side note.

h-ttps://duckduckgo.com/?q=03AI-r6f4U3ChXRvVAk_buCSNl_yoM3AcMTbXj8SVGP3U65U1jyIazra_BRpi0a6WOuuNzfbUbdVebSxWtpFCUN9Qw_pXKsY1LT-seARhaXcUnGWcztXQOGVPK9C76yjk6r5zIObXSk2aS84ga2e1euzr1PpjuaIWklHNhKctDAYdzof-QiEsH3z4pCBbcjuA_rzydBo4uDFTn_vkloJnWxKlN0ZBAVDcprcb5VcdV9KAzM_24ZeeqZu-Sj2aKEJ_YiwQCDOK5FhmselTKAb4FEf7TwivkezwFBw&t=ffab&ia=web-

This was in my CTRL-V and thats not my search history....
P.S. remove the -

4K 120hz
when?

perfect combination for work/desktop usage and casual gaymen

>>59257153
This year hopefully. Panels that can do it already exist, and DP 1.3/1.4 GPUs are out, so it's waiting on scaler ASIC vendors right now.

>>59243084
4k induces noticable micro stuttering to the point it gives me a headache

>>59243307
<100 dpi is disgusting.

>>59257153
>>59256804

ASUS PG27UQ coming soon

>>59256838
You had a 216hz monitor?

>>59256804
>>59257510
For like 900 fucking USD.

144 for gayming
4k for work

Close thread

>>59243084
1440p 60hz IPS

At what size does 4k become noticeable/worth it? I doubt I'll ever buy a monitor over 27" so 1440p is probably as high as I'll go.

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>>59254098
Actually, certain LCD monitors do in fact flicker.

TN panel are based upon 6-bit color technology. Basically that means They can only produce 64 shades of Red, Green, Blue which results in a total of 256k possible colors. *VA and IPS panel use 8-bit color technology which means 256 shades of Red, Green, Blue which results in a total of 16.7m possible colors.

TN panels uses temporal dithering (spatial dithering was used in the past) to display colors outside the 256k color range. The pixels basically flashes very quickly between two colors to create a 3rd color.

For example, suppose purple is not one of the 256k a TN panel can display. What the panel will do is flash very quickly between red and blue so that your brain thinks it is seeing solid purple.

>>59258240
900 is reasonable, I think it'll be more.

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my 32" 75 hz 1440p hp omen for $274 was a steal. fuck paying 1k for a panel

>>59256804
>>59258766
But it's pointless, there's no hardware powerful enough to get you 4k 100fps+ gaming right now anyway. The ti will be the 4k 60fps card, maybe SLI but SLI itself is being supported less and less and works very poorly on even games that claim to support it.

>>59243084
Tough choice since I love my 144hrz monitor and watching film. I'd have to go with 4k because films are made in 30> fps, and I could live with all my games being 60 fps with over twice the resolution as 1440p.

>>59243084
I think the only people who shit on 144hz are people who have never actually seen one in real life. Everything is so much fucking smoother. 4K for productivity isn't worth it really when you can just use a second monitor or an ultra wide.

>>59243290
What if I do none?

There is no debate. 60fps is trash now.

1080p@240Hz

>>59249974
I don't things I need two titan to browse internet, code and all.

>>59259481
Repeat with me: FPS are refresh rate aren't the same thing.

>>59259582

Yes but gaming on a 60Hz monitor locks you at that framerate.

>>59258808
Monitors retain their value very well. You buy it now and then have it for when hardware can push that many frames. Also everyone tends to assume you're playing the latest games. Maybe I just want to play Quake III @ 4k 144fps.

>>59258240
More like $2000.

>>59243432
/thread
just close it already, there is nothing more to add

>>59259582

Repeat with me: You're an idiot

Top for gaymen
Bottom for everything else

I used to love a high refresh rate. However, I don't play video games. So, it literally makes no difference in my life. I'd be fine with 30, but 60 is needed for videos.

Therefor, I'd say 4K is much more valuable to me due to more screen real estate which is all that matters if you don't play video games.

>>59259642
It doesn't change the fact this are different things.

>>59259799
You want me to call you an idiot? Ok.

>>59243084

You will never need anything more than 1080p 60Hz.

>>59260381

but they're synchronous

so 60Hz is shit for gaming because it limits you to 60 fps

you fucking sperg

>>59243084

I actually own these exact monitors.

I use the 1440p@144Hz for gaming, because I honestly can't go back to 60Hz. Even single player games benefit so much from 100+ frames per second. Use 4K for everything from watching movies to work related tasks.


Making this thread with zero context was pretty retarded OP.

for what purpose would u use 4k?
there are no 4k movies are there?
for gaming 1440p 144hz is way better

Right now 1440p@60 because gsync prices are fucking stupid and get you locked in.
When nvidia gets bored of this or AMD starts making good GPUs again, 1440p@144

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>>59260787

>he thinks he needs Gsync

>>59260807
Alternatives are either turning on vsync at 120 and hit the GPU harder or using one of the memesyncs.

>>59260705
>the only things you can do with a computer are watching movies and gayming
everything work related profits from increased screen real estate
and text is much comfier to read at higher dpis

GAYMERS BTFO

1080 144hz cause fuck niggers and spics

>>59243084
how did 4k end up winning this when it was losing to begin with?

>>59249245
it depends. do you do gaming on your computer more than anything else? if so, I'm going to call you a man child, however it will be sufficient justification for why you have a 1440p monitor instead of a 4k one.

don't tell me you stupid niggers play back movie and anime at 60hz

>>59260845

Or you could go 1920x1080p@144Hz

>>59248479
>>59249701

Monitors don't just refresh and show the latest frame. They're constantly refreshing. A 60Hz monitor starts at the top and scans lines across, then works downward from there. The reason tearing exists is because the GPU changes the frame while the monitor is in mid-scan, and this results in a newer frame being shown on the part of the screen still left to scan. If your GPU is changing the frame 10 times during a refresh, you'll have 10 tears at each one
So it's not exactly you're seeing less latency, only part of the screen is a new frame. It's still better than running at 60fps but you're not seeing all of the freshest frame

>>59260845
see
>>59248479

>>59243084
>Does not just go 1080@60fps

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>>59263267
>60fps

>>59243084
100%sure you posted this on Reddit

>>59255723

Not a problem for my AMD Radeon R69 2500 Pro I bought back in 2038

144hz feels much better when moving the mouse around the screen, it isn't just for muh gaymes. Never personally tried 4K though.

>>59256820
I got a TN 1440p 1440hz monitor for $350

>>59263554
>1440hz
lolk

>>59263554
TN is cheap lol

If you have a 144hz monitor, do you also need to be running at 144 FPS in vidya to feel a difference, or would you feel it even with just 60+?

I feel like 144hz is really nice depending on what you play or if you have such beastly hardware you can push out the frames to use it in even the most demanding games, but outside of that I feel like you probably would take more enjoyment out of the higher fidelity of a 1440p or 4k monitor. Especially running something like a 1070 that can consistently hit 60 FPS at 1440p.

4K. I want that delicious resolution for for more working space.

>>59263680
>If you have a 144hz monitor, do you also need to be running at 144 FPS in vidya to feel a difference, or would you feel it even with just 60+?

you'll feel it with anything 60+ although you might not start noticing it until 75fps or so. You will however get horrific screen tearing, unless you also have freesync/gsync.

>>59259530
Outside of CS:GO and possibly FaggotWatch, where else is this even desirable?

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>>59263648
Just like your mom :^)

>>59243126
how much is ULMB a improvement over G-Sync

Last time I checked there is no non TN panel 144hz 1440p monitor. So 4k it is.

>>59264137
Generally games where you want 144hz you can push past it, making screen tearing a moot point.

For other games I just either Vsync or lock at 60

>>59260857
literally should make no visable difference
if you like space get a bigger monitor or double/triple set up

>>59243630
that doesn't matter since it isn't in sync with your monitor.

>>59243084
$200 144hz 1080p
$300 60hz 4k

best combo.

>>59266776
>bigger monitor for low dpi cancer

I'll just stick a knife into my eyes and save the money.

you can buy 4k 120hz TVs that have a 12ms response time for like $400.

>>59264137
I don't have g-sync on my monior nor do I use v-sync with my games and not once have I gotten screen tearing.

>all those redditors in here still not sure about what resolution and hertz to get..

/g/ is dead

>>59266776
>being this retarded
a bigger monitor will get you a bigger picture,
but it can't display more information for that you need more pixels

>>59267571
>using ellipsis
You are a faggot of biblical proportions. >>59267571

>>59267403
300 4k monitor? How big is it? 18 inches?

You can't go back from 144 hz. It is too smooth. Hell, 1080p 144hz > 4k 60hz.

>>59243307
I'm so tired of the internet setting unreasonable standards for size. No average man is nearly that long.

I own a 4k 60hz monitor.

Its a meme, I wish I bought 1440p 144hz

This 144Hz is so toxic, it might be worth buying a such a screen just so I can have my own fucking opinion.

And no I don't think It'll make me better a games, the goal is to have a better time playing.

>>59270815
This 144hz debate is so toxic*

144hz is for gaymin manchildren

>>59270766
This is why you should never take advice from 4chan. One anon is going on about how 1440p is a meme and he wishes he got 4k60fps now this anon says 4k60fps is the meme. It's like a schizophrenic arguing with itself here.

>>59270945
>It's like a schizophrenic arguing with itself here.

That's an illusion. In reality it's a bunch of autistic faggots.

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This discussion is lacking a very important topic: Porn.

4k porn clearly exists already. Does 144 fps porn exist?

>>59271621
This made me wonder if there are any videos of extremely slow motion nutshots. I mean at like +10000fps

As an oldfag that played Quake 2 at 15 or so FPS on my voodoo 2, I still find a game very playable even if it hits 25 ish fps.
Sure getting 125fps was kinda critical for Quake 3 arena competitively.
But that's about the only game I can think of where it actually matters.
60 fps is fine lads.

>>59270815
>>59270815
Here's my honest opinion. I went straight from sub 30fps console gaming straight to 144hz gaming netting 120fps+ on my games. It looked great, smooth as butter. Not just multiplayer games but single player as well. I then limited a handful of games to 60fps. The difference was quite stunning to me, games like Overwatch and BF1 seemed to stutter at 60fps. Now I have good vision, I don't wear glasses so the claim people make that they don't see a difference is definitely a case by case sort of thing, just like people who do claim to see a difference. So take that for what you will but the way I look at it there's only a net gain for me to have a 144hz monitor.

>>59271827
For gaming i honestly can notice a difference between 120 and 60 fps. However the difference wasn't noticable in input lag. But rather how smooth the picture felt. I think that when you push more frames to the monitor than it can handle. Then it will introduce screen tearing but also have more frames to choose to display. Since monitors run at a fixed rate

>>59272038
Nowadays, I hardly play games anymore, but when I do it's on my 4k display, or my oculus rift.
Basically,, I have to make sure games run at 45 fps minimum for either hitting freesync range or having ASW kick in.
Anyway, I don't even sure I actually doubt there's anybody that can actually hit constant 144 fps on modern games without 1080 SLI.

>>59272135
You can also cap the framerate with a program like RTSS to one below the refresh rate. That way it always stay on. But ya to get an exact 144 fps you'll need a very powerful rig. But even if it drops to 120 it isnt ti bad.

10 year old 20.1" 1680 x 1050 60hz IPS master race.

>>59272330
Dont those things have massive input lag and response time though. Since it uses an older version of ips tdchnology

Native resolution means nothing, it's all about pixel density. Therefore 4k is a meme unless you're viewing something on a very large screen.

144hz is entirely noticeable even while just using your desktop. Your mouse cursor will move extremely more fluidly, and animations will be spooky fluid. If you're playing games, the refresh rate will be equally spooky. Everything is more life like. Of course though, movies and chinese cartoons aren't 144 fps so if you don't play games it really doesn't matter.

>>59247039
im sorry but catgirls are a necessity

>>59263680
Even at just 80fps, the difference feels massive. From 80-120 there is still a noticeable difference, but not as drastic. 120+ and I have difficulty telling. So if I get 120-140fps in a game, that's still good enough for me.

>>59264137
>You will however get horrific screen tearing
Nah, screen tearing happens when the GPU is sending frames faster than the monitor can refresh.

You would have screen tearing only if you were getting frames much higher than 144fps.

>>59243084
for gaymes or desktop?

>>59272510
>Nah, screen tearing happens when the GPU is sending frames faster than the monitor can refresh.
>You would have screen tearing only if you were getting frames much higher than 144fps.

this is a myth. it's probably worse when it's over the monitor refresh rate, but screen tearing can happen at fps below, or even equal to the monitor refresh rate. some people just notice it less, especially when the monitor is 144Hz so the tears are on the screen for less time