I thought Ryzen would crush Intel??

>>59241080
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2lNWzC1tkk

>>59241080

7 isn't meant for 1080p for the nth time, keep using selective memory and trolling just be neutral and non-biased

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>>59241080
Lmao

Ryzen is so fucking bad

Hello, welcome to /g/.

Please use one of the 90 shilling threads active at this moment, instead of making yet another one.

Thank you, and sage.

>>59241117
I'd rather kill and unwanted thread, thank you :)

>>59241111
Nice quads

>>59241100
>7 is better when you introduce GPU bottlenecks

>>59241080
source?

/v/->

>>59241080
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11170/the-amd-zen-and-ryzen-7-review-a-deep-dive-on-1800x-1700x-and-1700/18
I'm in treats right now. Suck it, lard-asses!

>>59241080
It's made them competitive for the first time in about a decade.

Only a fucking idiot who bought into marketing and hype would...well, believing the marketing and hype.

>>59241080
god fucking dammit. would you buy a 6900k with a quadro for gaymen? fucking hell, just kill yourself
>>>/v/

>>59241080
why would you benchmark a 10 year old game?

>>59241711
You realise that the same retard keeps spamming these threads because you keep giving him attention, right?

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>>59241080
DELET

>>59241713
10 month*

>>59241711
you could just buy the one right below it for $320-300

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>>59241730
are you retarded?

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>>59241774
Holy fuck do AMDtards live in an alternate universe?

>>59241774
I know you're trolling me but
>Overwatch is a team-based multiplayer first-person shooter video game developed and published by Blizzard Entertainment. It was released in May 2016 for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 4, and Xbox One.
At first I actually thought you were memeing about how OW is just a TF2 clone but now I know you're just retarded or pretending to be

>>59241818
>Overwatch
>9/10
lel

>>59241818
>when you realize that on March 2nd the 4chan servers fell into a dimensional wormhole and now exist in both our and the berenstain timeline.
>tfw for them Ryzen was a success for gaming but the price they paid for it was Hillary as president

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>>59241855

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>>59241080
IT WAS AMDS TURN

>Using benchmarks where a 6900k is within margain of error of the 7700k as some kind of Bible of what modern CPUs are capable of

Why? Are you people retarded or just children who only play video games all day?

>>59242964
AMD shilled it as gaming chip to go. Blame their ceo and marketing team.

>>59242996
Shilled it as a gaming chip by comparing it to the 6900k? Thanks for confirming that you're retarded if you buy an 8 core 16 thread CPU just to play video games on.

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>>59241080

We've all learned to expect one thing from AMD: cheap mediocrity.
But the guys in TEAM RED have spent years on R&D and now we're breaking new ground.

What AMD offers now is expensive mediocrity.

>>59243024
10 points have been added to your RedTeam+ account.
Keep up the good fight!

>>59241855
>march 2nd
>overwatch was released in 2016
>trump became president in january
Literally makes no sense. But still a good kek

>>59243057
>b-but its cheaper than 1k intel chip
>d-don't compare it to 7700k
>y-you'll totally need 16 threads in your gaming pc in the next 2-3 years we swear!

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>check ayymd plebbit
>ayymdtards are buiding r1700+rx480
>mfw

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>>59243127
>if I make it sound all ironic and funny that will invalidate the argument XDDDD

>>59243222
>ironc
AMD marketed their cpu as the best choice for gaming for 2017. The best gaming cpu is 7700k which is better priced than amd offerings. What's hard to understand?

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>>59243127

>>59243527
Joker himself even made a video showing he fucked up with this graph and re-tested
Now it's COMPLETELY invalid

>>59243675
... and the tests at 720p low settings still showed it doing great. lol. Within 5-10% in most games, and that's with SMT enabled that everyone knows is bugged in games in Win10.
The games where it's not within 5-10%, it's still usually getting at least 200fps anyway. It'd probably get 250+ fine with SMT disabled in them.

>>59243527 was at 1080p with an OVERCLOCKED GTX 1080 at 2050mhz.

Joker is going to be running SMT disabled tests this week he said.

>>59243270
It's really hard to understand why you're focusing so much on gayyme performance. I think >>>/v/ would be a much more suitable place for you to spout your shit.

>>59243769
It's called false advertising, RedTeam+ shill

>>59241080
You did? Really?

Or could it be that you're just pretending you did so that you can berate AMD for not offering THE BEST CPU EVER?

You'd have to be insane if you actually thought that they could catch up and overtake Intel in one product iteration. In reality, they've finally got an offering that's actually worth considering for certain applications again, which is something they haven't had for quite a long time.

>>59243717
>source: my ass

>>59243788
>false advertising
>"Hey guys, look at these handbrake and cinebench benchmarks. There's some gaming ones too if you want to game alongside your blender renders"

I'm 99% sure that they showed games just to show that it can game, not that it should, since bulldozer everyone thought AMD cpus simply couldnt game, this was a quick rebuttal to that. If they truely marketed for gamers theyd be cheaper and be benched in games vs 7500-7700 processors. Instead they showed it in games vs the 6900, to show that this workstation CPU can do games in the downtime between renders and what not.

>>59243270
>AMD marketed their cpu as the best choice for gaming for 2017.
What are you even talking about? Even their alleged shillmarks have been of stuff like Handbrake, Blender or Cinebench.

>>59243963
>call it an amazing gaming CPU
>have that shit even on your website
>delete it immediately after release
lmao

>>59244012
pics or it didn't happen

>>59241080
Wait so, 250fps isn't enough? There aren't even any fucking panels that run at that frequency. The shilling is ridiculous.

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>>59244026
No longer on their website
Had to use waybackmachine

>>59241111
Min FPS on par with highly single threaded i3. Bretty gud.

>>59244054
>it's good enough- AMD

>>59244008
They had entire stream with allegedly ryzen+vega pc running sw battlefront shilling it as the second coming of Jesus for gaming.

>>59244067
It fucking is. Your monitor is probably a shitty 60hz panel. The CPU produces 4 times the maximum saturation frequency. You're not going to at all get any benefits, let alone perceive the difference between 270fps and 250fps. Fuck.

>>59244057
>all he has is a vague statement
It can be interpreted in any way. Marketing 101.
I might as well say that they delivered on that. It may not be up to par with intel's MOAR GHZ lineup but it certainly isn't lacking when it comes to gaming performance.

>>59244072
Since when did /g/ care about the inane bablings of marketing departments? How about you evaluate it for what it is instead of caring what someone told you about it?

Ryzen seems to be a pretty good CPU for many applications. Just because yours isn't among them doesn't mean it sucks.

>>59244095
>denial

>>59244101
>inane bablings of marketing departments
It was their CEO.

>>59244057
>MERGING THE WORLDS OF
>GAMER, GAMER, AND GAMER LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA! I SEE IS GAMER,GAMER,GAMER!

>>59244125
Are you implying any contradiction?

>>59244134
>ALL I SEE IS GAMER...

>>59244057
You may well argue that statement is entirely true. "Merging the worlds of gamers and creators" is exactly what they're doing if they're enabling better capturing/streaming while playing. Which they are.

>>59241080
But it is. Intel processors have ~40-50 fps variance between min and average. AMD only has 20.

Only an idiot would pick the Intel since its going to be fluctuating a lot more.

>>59244121
Denial of what? Marketing always cooks up some really vague statements so that they won't get sued for false advertising. Either way, you should look at it for what it is. Good for gaming, excellent for multithreaded workloads. Much like the 6900k, it has more than adequate gaming performance but it's a bad buy if you're going to buy it strictly for gaming.

>>59244125
Does that matter? Regardless of who she may or may not have said, that still doesn't change what Ryzen actually is. Which is, again, a pretty good CPU in quite a few domains.

>>59244139
So I can assume that Lisagook is full of shit now? After being hailed as the most trustworthy tranny on the planet here.

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>>59244090

>>59244167
You can assume that the public face of any company is going to engage in marketspeak.

>>59244173
>four times the required rate
>"enough"

>>59244162
>>59244151
>>59244134
>M-Marketing
jesus and you guys act like intel shills are the evil ones for defending them
look in the mirror holy shit lmao

>>59244177
>replying to /v/-tier shitposting
Have some standards, man.

>>59244057
>generic marketing slogan
>THEY SAID IT WOULD GIVE ME THE BEST FPS EVER

Really?

>>59244188
Sorry.

>>59244057
This is actually accurate.

Ryzen R7 line up provides top tier workstation performance, while offering more then capable gaming performance. You no longer need a top end consumer i7 for muh max frames and a HEDT chip, you can buy one and get all around satisfactory results.

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>>59244173
>just wait
>@JokerReview
shitposting but still funny

>>59244183
That one image you posted is vague enough to be true and untrue at the same time. No shit it's marketing. That doesn't change the fact that the majority of the benchmarks they've shown are heavily multithreaded applications like cinebench, blencer and handbrake alongside a few gaming benchmarks.

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>>59244189
>>59244202
>ITS A WORKSTATION PROCESSOR NOT A GAMING PROCESSOR
>they marketed it for gaming though
>SO EVERYONE DOES YOU CAN GAME ON ANYTHING ARE THEY WRONG?

>>59244173
>Poo splash in the background
what did AMD mean by this

>>59244215
Can I have better quality shitposts? Wall of greentext is pretty boring.

>>59244215
>they marketed it for gaming though
Is >>59244057 still your source for this?

>>59244221
>y-you're just shitposting

>>59244233
Yes. You're just shitposting. At least do it better, this is not /v/.

>>59243181
>rx480
Jesus christ brand loyalty really does make people stupid

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>>59244245
>>59244225

>>59241111
Wait, why does no one realize that the 1800X is just slightly behind Intel's Haswell 8-core i7 5960X? Wouldn't that just imply that FO4 is heavily clockspeed-bound and more than 4 cores is useless for the game, and it's not an issue with Ryzen specifically?

>>59244260
Marketing 101
It still delivers on that front. Nothing in that image says that it's better than the competition.

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>>59244275

>>59244267
>FO4
I almost got excited thinking we were moving into silicon metrics and architecture discussion before I realized you were talking about a game.

>>59244267
If I remember correctly, the same article has the 1800x at the top of the stack in the TW:WH benchmark. So yes, FO4 is a shit game

>>59244295
You need a separate thread for actual arch discussion with some kind of pleb filter in the op. I've seen two such threads in past few days.

>>59244267
Yes, that is what I've taken home from many of the benchmarks, too, which is actually pretty cool. I didn't seriously expect that they'd actually come so close to Intel in IPC with Zen as they seem to have.

What is all the more unfortunate, however, is that, at least according to the announced figures, the fewer-core parts aren't going to up the clockspeeds very much at all, which one could have been expecting with less heat generation on the chip.

I really do wonder why that is; if it is that Glofo's 14nm LPP process can't handle higher clockspeeds (yet?), or if Zen has critical paths that aren't optimized well enough. In the former case, one might perhaps expect upped clocks as Glofo tunes their manufacturing. In the latter case, it may be more difficult.

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>>59244285
DELET THIS
THEY NEVER COMPARED IT TO 7700K

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>>59244321
... well, this thread has a pleb filter in the OP.

>>59241100
>Not understanding that benchmarking is set up to reflect CPU performance, not real world use.
Doesn't matter what it's meant for when that induces bottlenecks. Why are AMDfags so fucking dumb?

>>59244285
>1440p
>GPU Bottleneck
Even then, the 1700 is still a viable CPU if you're going to do 1440p gaming and considering how close those benchmarks are, I don't see any absolute lie in here.
Marketing 101.
Hide behind half-truths so you won't get sued. Every other company that produces consumer goods does this

>>59244338
Zeppelin is a server part first and foremost, they've chosen low power process deliberately.

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>>59244352

>>59244354
Given how Ryzen compares to the 6900K, it looks like the server parts could be really exciting. If it scales well to the promised 32 cores, they really could have a worthy Xeon competitor.

>>59244352
but I thought amd are the "good guys"?

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>it was never marketed for gaming
>it's a workstation CPU
>not a single mention of it on their workstation section of their website
>GAMING GAMING GAMING everywhere

>>59244349
>gaymen
No, it attracts shitposters.
>>59244369
It scales even better at low clock.

>>59244352
Mind you, it's not necessarily even a bad thing at all. The fact that the CPU is good enough to make the game GPU-bound, but then has lots of cores to spare for stuff like streaming or other background processing, is pretty nice.

>>59244357
>A slide that shows absolutely nothing
Either way, you should really stop listening to marketing speak or insisting that bad marketing is what's making a product bad.

>>59244374
I never said that. I was only explaining how he's retarded when it comes to marketing.

>>59244377
>gamers and enthusaist PC users
you:
>GAYMEN GAYMEN GAYMEN GAYMEN

>>59244377
Seems the shills arguing how amd never put r7 vs 7700k in gaming but 6900k got btfo hard >>59244285

>>59244260
>>59244357
Did they really do this? I want to believe you just shooped these.

There are really no bounds to the retardation of marketing.

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>>59244387
>It was never marketed for gaming
>well that's just marketing

>>59244379
>No, it attracts shitposters.
That was the joke: It filters plebs from non-plebs.

>>59244401
Go on their website my man
this was deleted>>59244260
but the others are still there

m-m-muh games

>>59244401
check their jewtube channel

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>>59244395

>>59244374
They are to the extent that your enemy's enemy is your friend.

>>59244407
>ignores the other system that has a big red button that activates blender, cinebench, handbrake all at the same time
Yup, showing me that one, individual system really is helping your case.
Even then, the advertising isn't exactly wrong, it still delivers on the AAA gaming front. It's up to you if you're going to be retarded enough to buy this purely for gaming.

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>>59244401

>>59244429
anyone who tries to lie to me and sell me shit is my enemy

>>59244443
>shit
Ryzen isn't shit, though.

>tries to lie to me
I assume you aren't buying anything from anyone, then.

>>59244435
>inb4 that retarded OBS benchmark that shows the 7700k beating the 6900k

>>59241080
It did, but not on gaming

>the "flop" called FX 8370 still getting over 60 fps at ultra in most games

kek

For never being marketed as a gaming processor
AMD sure did market it as a gaming processor

Almost all of AMD's gayming marketing focused on streaming, their point was moar corez was more efficient than Intel's iGPU-accelerated solution. Why would you buy an 8-core unless you were into heavy streaming or Youtube production?

>>59244202
>Ryzen R7 line up provides top tier workstation performance
What's with all the morons trying to pull this shit today? It's a capable chip but nobody's going to take it seriously outside of the entry-level in that market, it doesn't even have fucking multi-socket support.

>>59244463
>100fps behind
>not a flop
It's enough- AMD

>>59244473
They're the same people that thinks Intel's HEDT lineup is workstation. Wait for Naples or get a Xeon if you're into that sort of thing.

>>59244473
They're releasing new Opterons this year running on the same architecture, presumably with more PCI lanes and dual socket support. The point is if the desktop CPU's are already performing this well then their server CPU's are going to rape Intel.

>>59244465
Most of the benchmarks are synthetic production workloads. There were a few other games that focused on the game itself but the rest of the gaming showcases are all about streaming.

>>59244477
>over 60 fps in gaems
>after 5 years
>"flop"

Dude, stop. Also, the multithread performance you got with it was unmatched by Intel at the same price range

>>59244489
>their server CPU's are going to rape Intel.
let's not start this again, didn't you guys learn your lesson with this launch

>>59244505
>I have no idea how the server and enterprise market works
>>>/v/

>>59244501
>there are people to this day that are in denial that the 8370 flopped
jesus have some self respect

doesn't all of this just point to the limits we're hitting with silicon hardware rather than AMD/Intel engineers being too incompetent to make continually faster chips?

>>59244505
????
Their only real weakness was gaming performance, how is that going to affect their server CPU's?

>>59244512
>AMD always gotten their ass kicked with server processors
>Nobody has used AMD in server processors in maybe 17+ years
>it'll be different this time go back to /v/

>>59244514
>not understanding my posts and being a bad reader

Dude. Come on

>>59244521
>blames physics

>>59244526
r7 1700 shows great perf/watt once you start downclocking and undervolting the thing

>>59244489
I'm not talking about us vs. them dick measuring, I'm mocking retarded gamers who wouldn't know real workstation from their own ass trying to bill the current gaming/prosumer-targeted top end of this release as "workstation" chips.

>>59244526
There were no AMD chips worth a shit for servers 17 years ago, but K8 Opterons enjoyed very reasonable success 10-12 years ago.

>>59244473
>it doesn't even have fucking multi-socket support
I'm pretty sure AM4 supports multi-socket configurations.

>>59244552
nope

>>59244521
Yes, Intel blows a ton of money on R&D to make very small gains because they refuse to make a new arch.

>>59244561
Naples

>>59244536
i don't really give a shit i just want to see CPUs get faster and it doesn't look like that's happening from AMD or Intel

>>59244579
>because they refuse to make a new arch
Pray tell, Dr. Anon, what exactly Intel would do if it just weren't for their bone-headed refusal to start on a new arch. What implementation improvements would be obvious to implement if only they could start from scratch?

>>59244596
I've been almost looking forward to Moore's Law ending. Finally, software developers have to stop being spoiled and actually start optimizing their shit instead of just relying on silicon manufacturing getting better. Modern CPUs are insanely fast.

Also, if you want to see substantial performance advances, you'd probably be wiser to look to some new memory technology to replace DRAM, because it's there if anywhere that the bottleneck lies. If RAM speeds could start approaching CPU speeds, we could probably start using in-order architectures again.

>>59241080
Fucking retard tier benches like this should be bannable. I am so sick of seeing this garbage vidya shit benchmarks with hundreds of FPS.

>>59244650
>I am so sick of seeing this garbage vidya shit benchmarks with hundreds of FPS.
Why? It's surely an interesting datapoint for CPU performance.

Late 2015
>Skylake
Early 2017
>Kaby Lake
Early 2018
>Cannonlake/Coffee Lake
Late 2018
>Icelake
Late 2019
>Tigerlake

Literally 5 gens of Skylake before Intel hits 7nm, Jesus Christ. And I'm willing to bet the first 7nm chip won't have a desktop version due to production/power issues like Broadwell/Cannonlake, so expect a 6th rehash of Skylake in 2020.

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>>59244693

You don't like it? what are you gonna do? buy AMD?

>>59241100
>7 isn't meant for 1080p for the nth time
>i-it's meant for GPU bottlenecks s-stop showing them CPU differences

>MUH GAEMS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsDjx-tW_WQ&t=261s

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Feb 25
>LOL get ready for the asspain, Intelfags! I already preordered! Check out this synthetic bench! Can't wait for my 1800X, muh binning!
Mar 5
>wow r u some stupid manchild who plays video games?? games are for children GROW UP i use 7zip and cinebench on a consumer desktop PC 8 hours a day for work!

>>59244443
Anything on every ads are blatant lie.

>>59245531
this

>>59241080
>still noticeably smaller min-avg gap

woah, it's like 8 cores actually help with background garbage

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>>59244984
>this will happen with vega if it's ever released in this decade

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>>59241080
>using win10

>>59245744
it will be better right now, but when only w10 gets SMT patch win7 will be left in dust

>>59244267
Exactly this.

>>59244338
There were some interesting clock/vcore graphs posted here yesterday that seem to indicate that the voltage needed to up the frequency runs away at around 4GHz, which also explains the XFR limit at 4.1. There may be a process refresh eventually that reduces voltage needed at higher frequencies, but for the time being, I guess that's the pretty hard limit.
I mean, for the 5.2 - 5.8 GHz OC records with LN2, they almost upped the voltage to anywhere between 1.5 and 2V which is like 800W going into the CPU.

>>59247507
>the voltage needed to up the frequency runs away at around 4GHz
Which would mean that it is indeed a problem with the process, rather than the architecture?

>>59248927
It's a low power process, it's supposed to be that way. AMD traded higher clocks for more efficiency at lower ones.

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Some Game's schedulers don't seem to be dealing well with all those cores.

>>59241080
Is Ryzen the worst CPU launch of all time?

>>59248999
That would be Northwood randomly dying from random voltage spikes.

>>59241080
>224 FPS instead of 227
>This kills Ryzen
i mean, who cares if it's faster than intel on most workloads? my favorite game is slower by a microscopic margin!

>>59244984
kek

>>59248999
It's almost as bad as the pentium 4

>>59244984
Said noone, ever.

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>>59245739
>this will happen with ryzen+, vega, navi and any other amd trash product

>>59245744
>using 2133mhz ram
>3.5ghz
>he also said total war was biggest offender so for other games won't matter

yeah fuck off with rushed ryzen trash

ITT: Intel shills

Just wait for the new drivers and you'll see how the ryzen will beat them in every game

>>59249312
Please kill yourself. As long as Ryzen is spec'ed for less than 4 GHz, it would need 10-20% better IPC than Kaby Lake (if not even more) to beat Intel in single-thread, which is mad to expect.

If anyone actually expected that from Ryzen, they have only themselves to blame for being let down.

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>Ryzen is shit for gaming
>Vega 'might' beat a 1080 but likely at a higher power draw, and more expensive price point due to HBM2 and a much larger die
>Doesn't really matter because Vega is nowhere to be seen anyway
>Nvidia slashes prices by 100$ on the 1080, hold the two fastest cards and soon the three fastest cards on the market
G-Go A-AMD r-right guys?

>>59249357
Obviously in the fanboys mind drivers will lift clockspeeds up to 4.8 ghz and magically optimize all games for SMT

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>>59249397
J-JUST WAIT AND SEE NVIDIOT!

>>59244667
Because nobody with a high end CPU/GPU would be playing like that anyway, except for maybe wannabe eSports heroes who are convinced their eyes can see 200+ FPS. It's purely dickwaving. It makes no difference in actual real-world performance.

>>59250573
So what? Just think of it as kind of a SPEC run.

>>59249312

Maybe in minimum frames, and heavily multithreaded games.

Ryzen still represents a big leap over Bulldozer, and in a lot of ways, the 7 series is very much an early adopter platform, by the time the 5 series is out they'd have ironed out most of the bugs and gotten things more optimised software wise i think.

just clocked my 7700k to 4.8ghz with 1.185 vcore ama

>>59250720
Because every time it's posted retards use it as definitive proof that Ryzen is garbage.

>>59248970
Dota 2's open GL and Vulkan implementations are horrible

and in addition it's horribly optimized for multi-core CPUs, most of the work is done on core 0

>>59251416
>Dota 2's open GL and Vulkan implementations are horrible

>t. 2 star app developer

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>>59251720
I did some more CPU testing as well, but there's a forum post I made a while back
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=270824

The image is dota 2 running vulkan with an FX 8 core at 4.4ghz I believe, and a Fury X, with 100% GPU utilization under vulkan I get maybe 60fps at most, clearly something is very wrong there

>>59251828
>get shitty performance with shitty AMD products
>clearly something is very wrong there

>>59251828
>amd shit
>runs like shit
shocking

>>59251900
>>59251951
Well download the game, and test it for yourself(s) shitposter(s)

fps is well over 100 in DX9 and my now RX 480 is hardly utilized, usage just spikes from 1% to 100% constantly

>>59251977
it couldn't possibly have anything to do with garbage driver implementation from AMD's side.

You'd have an argment if it was also running like shit on Nvidia/Intel hardware, but it doesn't.

>>59249312
AMD: just™wait™

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>>59241080
>1080p
>muh 300 fps on muh 144 Hz monitor

>>59252006
Well here's 24 pages of performance issues due to the new 7.00 patch

http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=179042

I'm pretty sure it's just down to Dota 2's open GL/Vulkan implementation, because they're just tacked it on to support GNU/Linux, especially Vulkan

>>59243527
but the 7700K is actually cheaper... what's the point?

>>59251828
to be honest valve does suck at engines.
fucking source engine still runs like ass, no matter which version.

then again I don't believe Vulkan will change anything. Mantle was not any better, nor DX12 seem to achieve much.

>>59241080
It's funny, because in windows 7, without the smt bug, ryzen is getting almost 10% more performance,

>>59253295
every CPU and motherboards has bugs tho.
mostly CPUs.

>>59253111
If he doesn't shill, he won't get a plane ticket for the next amd cuck party.

>>59253335
Kinda sad... this trend that is.
Like how MS went after "the evil jew google man snooping on you" - while they have staff just to browse your Onedrive.

And now they beg you to become an MS fanboy, an "Insider".
;_;

>>59244202
But if I buy a 7700K for example, I have a fucking fast single thread performance, and most games will run just fucking mighty fine.

I mean, the R7 is not any cheaper.
Fuck I wish it was, if it was like 150-200$, I would buy it. That's some realistic price.
But the current price tag? Fuck no.

>>59253402
Nobody is telling you to buy an 8 core, 16 thread processor if your only concern is games

>>59244351
Doing that with games is retarded.
If you're going to bench pure CPU performance use synthetic tests. Don't try to bullshit with "b-but real world" and then use low quality settings.

>>59253402
If you want to game, then i7 is an overkill, i5 will drive pascal XP fuck even G4560 will drive pascal XP.

Why even get i7 at all?

>>59253817
>G4560 will drive pascal XP.
nope. dual cores are dead, accept it already.

>>59253850
maybe G4560 is extreme example, but i5 for sure is better price/performance over i7

>>59244351
you are indeed retarded

this will have a reason todo if we are talking about bulldozers on which they were BAD all around

r7 doesnt have that problem because A on average on 1080 they are 3-5% behind a 7700k and b) on higher resolutions they are actually the same

i guess you must be one of those that will spend 5000 euros on a system to play at 1080p /g/ is suddenly filled of those since march 2

>>59253697
>Don't try to bullshit with "b-but real world" and then use low quality settings.
Except pressuring the CPU with low-quality settings and low resolutions in actual games are more representative of real-world performance than synthetics. Hence why people testing the CPU do both.
One is a theoretical maximum, the other is a number more closely correlating to game performance that you can expect to see IRL.