/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

>>59221608
>http://pastebin.com/DYjEnVq1

these wallpapers sucks ass

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What do you guys think the max you'd pay for a X201 with an i7-M620. I'm following an auction now and I'm not sure what to bid up to.

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everyone gets to see my post yay im that annoying guy everyone knows


HI!

>>59222103

$100

I just can't get behind a thinkpad, it's so ugly and aesthetics are important to me.

I just run linux on an asus notebook

>>59222165
function > form

stop being a gay numale

>>59222206
what makes a thinkpad any more functional outside of maybe it's modularity?

Remember to check the last thread for my special battery information.

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>>59222309
>durability
>keyboard
>designed to be maintained (chinkpads are getting worse in this regard though)
>won't break if you get one drop of water into the keyboard area
>aftermarket batteries cheap, you can buy a couple and have dozens of hours of run time
etc

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>>59222165
This meme is a load of shit. Thinkpads have a unique, simple and consistent appearance that emphasizes being a tool for work over being a fashion accessory. You want ugly, take a look at Latitudes after the E6410 or any gaming laptop. There are some downright repulsive systems out there. Thinkpads aren't among them.

>>59222581
Asus is churning out ultrabook Mac clones, why even bother if that's what you're into? Just get a Macbook Pro and enjoy the emoji bar.

>>59222579
>aftermarket batteries cheap
but which ones?
>>59222540
what did he mean by this?

Should I buy an X1C4 /g/?
Like 650 on outlet

Are there any modern Thinkpads that can approach the battery life of an X230 with 9 cell + slice?

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>>59222624
>but which ones?
For older Thinkpads they're usually churned out in batches it seems and B2B'd over Ebay and Amazon. You'll see what is obviously the same case being sold filled with cells by several companies. I've always used Amazon because of their easy return policies for buying batteries and I went by the reviews, haven't gotten a bad battery yet.

>what did he mean by this?

>>59213322

start there and read

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>>59222682
Their new thinn ultrabooks get six hours just like their (((mobile workstations))) topkek.

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Hey, I have couple retarded questions.

How accurate are battery capacity indications on Windows 10? Does picrelated certainly mean that this T420 can actually run on battery 5ish hours, or is there any chance that it will give me far less time?

How good are 5 - 6 hours for a T420 9cell? Is it like somewhere in its midlife, yet still not bad for what I can expect of a used battery in a 6 years old laptop?

What are some good utilities to test battery on Windows 10?

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>screen bezel is now just a fucking sticker
oh china

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Whats the difference between the thinkpad t430s and the t430. so far all I've found is that the screen on the t430 is better (1900×600) and it's slimmer/lighter. if that's it I'm definitely going for it because they're basically the same price as the t430 I'm looking at.
is one clearly better? Is there a better thinkpad in general that is just as budget friendly?

>>59222825
>Hey, I have couple retarded questions.
>How accurate are battery capacity indications on Windows 10? Does picrelated certainly mean that this T420 can actually run on battery 5ish hours, or is there any chance that it will give me far less time?

It samples the recent load in the past couple minutes or so and projects your battery life from there. If you go from nothing open, to watching your 288fps 10 bit cartoons or gaymen, and then back to nothing again, you'll see your battery life projections were all over the map.

This is how every mobile device, laptop, etc works and has always worked. The battery indicator is just a guess if it displays anything more complicated than voltage.

>How good are 5 - 6 hours for a T420 9cell? Is it like somewhere in its midlife, yet still not bad for what I can expect of a used battery in a 6 years old laptop?

Depends 100% on how the battery was treated, go read my battery information to see if you can bring an apparently dead battery back to life.

>>59213322

>What are some good utilities to test battery on Windows 10?

Sorry sonny I use Linux on my Thinkpads.

>>59222825
Mine does 7h of cartoons with mpv but i bought it new like five months ago.

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Got mine today. Why my dissipator is bent?

Are the memory ddr3 dual channel?

Do I need to change my motherboard in order to put an i7 processor?

>>59222870
Both can have a 1600x900 screen, the t430s just doesn't have the 768p option. The t430s also has smaller battery and a soldered processor to the socket so you can't upgrade the processor.

the t430s has an easy to do fhd mod tho

>>59222839

WHAT THE FUCK?
I'm buying a macbook now.

I'd just like to ask, how is it possible that you fags don't know anything about batteries?

batteryuniversity.com holy shit read.

>>59222787
So what, just buy the first result and hope for the best? I was hoping /g/ would have a hot tip or a meme battery manufacturer

>>59223036
>just buy the first result and hope for the best
no, where did I say this

read the reviews and shit and be smart, don't be a retard and don't buy off ebay

>>59222957
>Why my dissipator is bent?
Mine is too but that's because of my own fault, it's pretty easy to bend them (and fix it as well).

don't know the model so can't answer the other questions

>>59223056
it's not going to be at the top if it's got 1 star, but amazon is full of people getting free stuff for positive reviews. If you look up powerbanks, the top results all do this.

>>59223064
X220.

>>59223101
Then yeah it's dual channel and the processor is soldered so you'll need to change the board to upgrade it.

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>>59223080
This is why you bother with Amazon, you test your battery and if it's shitty you return it.

All the packs I've bought which had good reviews were filled with Sony or Sanyo cells, and with my careful battery faggotry they're currently both at over 110% capacity, while being about six months old.

Authentic Lenovo batteries are no better than the Chinese knockoffs these days, and are always 3x as expensive at least.

>>59223129
Thanks. I won't upgrade then. i5 is fine for me.

>>59223139
^ I should say, both the batteries I'm using in my current user Thinkpad are at over 110% rated capacity. I have many other batteries which I've bought but most of them are in storage. I maintain them every few months.

I have brought other batteries back from the dead with my procedures, from >5% capacity to 80% or more in some cases.

>>59223208
How do you maintain them? Do you change the water?

>>59223240
just go upthread and read you retard, obviously you don't know shit about batteries

>>59223256
I only read images.

>>59223006
Not like it matters, the Macbook is even worse now. If they were still making the 2011 models with upgraded internals then maybe I would consider switching, but I'm not leaving Thinkpads to go over to the Emoji bar or the keyboard with 45nm of travel.

>>59223324
Apple dropped the spill guard under the keyboard when they went Intel, Powerbooks were the last Thinkpad-tier Macs durability wise.

>>59222897
>It samples the recent load in the past couple minutes or so and projects your battery life from there.
Thanks for the reply.
I know this. I meant how accurate those predictions are on a given load. Well they normally are from my experience, but whadya know, perhaps they can be affected by either some windows bugs or lack of some drivers or something regarding the battery wear or something something.

>Linux
It's a local seller, which means I can see the machine in person and run whichever nice little test software before I buy it, unfortunately not likely to have a chance to install linux on it.

>>59222919
Genuine or chink?

>>59223411
Chinese and a counterfeit one.

No one has free international shipping for genuine lenovo batteries or anything tech-related so China is my greatest ally.

>>59223411
If your battery isn't calibrated it will lie about its remaining capacity and that obviously fucks up the estimate

T430 and x230 owners: what are your average browsing and idle temps?

>>59223240
I hope to god this is bait

>>59218396
I'm not saying you're wrong about it, just that I see someone saying that win 7 is the best for it, then someone else with 10, then 8.1, then debian. I would think there's a system that's specifically better suited than the rest for its hardware.

I have an x220 right here and for what I do mostly any system would suffice, but it'd be nice to use a specific system that will perhaps play with it better than others. I'm willing to use Windows 10 despite not liking it much if that's going to be a better option for the little thing but there doesn't seem to be a verdict of which system works better regardless of user preference.

>>59223579
>tfw x220 and t420 work nicely out of the box with almost every operating system
>even with fucking macOS

>>59223459
How badly can it lie?

And how do I calibrate it? Is this what I need?
http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/downloads/ds001322
> To enable the battery to indicate accurate state of charge and correct battery health, do the following procedures after the battery firmware update by this software.

>[Windows 8] // They don't have instructions for Windows 10, but I geusss same applies
> After updating firmware, reset the battery gauge for calibration, as follows.
> Have your battery 100% charged.
> Discharge it until 5% battery charge. Do NOT attach the AC adapter to the computer during discharge.
> Have it 100% charged, again. Do NOT detach the AC adapter from the computer during charge.

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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHERE'S MY THINKPAD

>>59223606
not that unusual, anything with an Intel processor and no wifi whitelist will basically work

>>59223606
I have to disagree with that one.

I tried macOS and it works definitely nicer than one would expect, but not just good enough for work. Mainly I get worse battery life (not much really, so it's not exactly the biggest problem) than on Windows and the behavior between the touchpad and the trackpoint is a complete and utter mess.

The rest works fine, but... fuck me I don't find it comfortable to use with a skippy trackpoint that either has to register clicks twice or half of the time.

>>59223668
as long as you run it to empty and back to full again occasionally, the battery knows where its limits are.

>>59223694
>Mainly I get worse battery life (not much really, so it's not exactly the biggest problem) than on Windows and the behavior between the touchpad and the trackpoint is a complete and utter mess
For me is the complete opposite.

Sure i agree that the touchpad works like shit but i never use it however the trackpoint works just as good as ever and i get better battery than what i got on Windows as i posted here >>59222919.

It's a T420.

>>59223721
Do you disable the touchpad through hardware?

I did and that disables the middle button scrolling for me. If I disable it with PrtSc instead, clicks won't register if I just touch the touchpad a little bit with my palm.

7 hours though? That's crazy. I can't get more than 2:30 on my 6 cell battery.

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>>59223822
No i just don't use it, if i disable the touchpad the trackpoint gets disabled as well as if they were linked.

Pic related and this is with an upgraded quad core processor, you sure you also generated the SSDT for your processor for proper speedstep? (if you followed the insanelymac guide that is).

>>59223893
I followed this guide

http://x220.mcdonnelltech.com/

It was pretty no-nonsense I must say. Literally copy and paste shit. I did the ssdtPRGen thingie and copied that SSDT and all.

Maybe I need to recalibrate my battery? I got this thing refurbished so I don't even have a point of reference on how good the state of this battery is. I'd install any OS and do any tests if I had such point of reference to be honest.

>>59223579

Install windows7.

8 and 10 are shit for a x220, if you don't believe me then dual boot and compare temps, noise and battery life.

A tweaked loonix is fine too.

>>59223960
I used this one insanelymac.com/forum/topic/285678-lenovo-thinkpad-t420-with-uefi-only/ but looks almost identical, even takes some things from this t420 guide.

Also my 9-cell battery isn't even genuine as i said here >>59223429, you can see where it misreports the capacity and gets stuck at 6% for a long ass time.

>I got this thing refurbished so I don't even have a point of reference on how good the state of this battery is
Install Lenovo Power Manager on Windows, there you can see the cycles of discharge and the state of the battery, then use BatteryMon and do your usual stuff while it's running in the background to get an estimate of how long does it last in its current state.

Is there a way to remove the fucking stains on my thinkpad's lid?

>>59224119
Many thanks.

>>59224093
This thing came with a Windows 7 Pro for refurb pcs product key. I wonder if it works with normal W7 Pro.

>>59224224

Paint thinner and a soft cotton pad

>>59224262
thanks anon

>>59224224
I used turpentine and then isopropyl alcohol to clean mine, if everything fails there's always the "put a skin on it" option.

>>59224260

it should work, I dont see why not as long as its a decent pro edition and not a "ultimate black gold platinum edition" from some slav tracker.

If I got a libreboot thinkpad would I still be able to install Win7 on it? Would the install process be pretty much unchanged?

>>59223702
Don't fucking do this, try not to run your battery below 10% at a minimum unless you are trying to rejuvenate it.

Every time you bottom out a healthy battery you are damaging it slightly.

>>59224119
>it misreports the capacity and gets stuck at 6% for a long ass time
It can only estimate the battery's state by looking at the voltage. It doesn't know what 6% even means.

Anyway you should never run your battery that low unless you're cycling it in order to refresh it, AFTER it has dropped below 50% original capacity.

You're frying your battery anon. Stop it.

>>59224262
>Paint thinner
>>59224312
>turpentine

don't do this anon, alcohol and that orange-based goo gone cleaner are all you need

>>59224262
>>59224276
you cant be this retarded surely...

Do I get banned if I share a link of my ebay auction for a ThinkPad here?

>>59224559
Well, I'm a newfag to Thinkshit, so yes

>>59224602

No but some anon might troll you and not pay for it lol

>>59224602

go ahead

>>59224526
Yes, you should do this. Hitting 0% once a month is worth it to actually know how much charge you have. Your battery won't last forever, 0.001% doesn't make a difference.

>>59217849
thanks anon

>>59224683
>Hitting 0% once a month is worth it to actually know how much charge you have. Your battery won't last forever, 0.001% doesn't make a difference.

Draining the battery all the way is extremely hard on it. Who cares if you "know how much charge you have" if you're having to fry your battery every month figuring it out?

The fact it's way more than 0.001% damage to the battery for each full discharge. This is just how it is, physics and chemistry anon. Look into cycle depth vs battery longevity.

Don't drain below 10% unless your battery is already below half its rated capacity.

>>59224768
It doesn't actually hit 0.0%, it knows when it's close. How can I avoid 10% if I've got no idea if I'm on 15% or 20%? It's fine. My MBP battery is over a year old and still above 100% rated capacity.

>>59224540
The thing is, when i used Windows all the data that the Lenovo Power Manager application reported about the battery and the firmware was from some generic 6-cell battery from another lenovo laptop, not even a thinkpad.

Basically (i think) this thing works as a 6-cell with firmware of a 6-cell battery but since it has 9 cells it lasts some extra hours before discharging and when charging it gets stuck at 99% for plenty of time too, as i said it's not even genuine but lasts like one.

I have no way to know the real percentage at all, most of the time i use it from fully charged to 5% and the screenshot i posted was an exception to see how long would it last.

so my X220T touch/pen screen died on me.

looking for a replacement i ordered a X230T with horrible keyboard and horrible touchpad+ x220t keyboard +x220t palmrest and those chinese usb programmers.

total was 200usd. did i did gud?

>>59224825
>It doesn't actually hit 0.0%, it knows when it's close. How can I avoid 10% if I've got no idea if I'm on 15% or 20%?
10% becomes your new 0% anon. This is how all semi-'smart' batteries work, they only know the lower limit you allow them to reach.

>It's fine. My MBP battery is over a year old and still above 100% rated capacity.
Apple was smart enough to invent actual intelligent lithium batteries which bypass a high-resistance cell and there is a voltage converter with a wide enough range to supply the battery even as cells are worn out. You're comparing apples to oranges anon.

>>59224828
>The thing is, when i used Windows all the data that the Lenovo Power Manager application reported about the battery and the firmware was from some generic 6-cell battery from another lenovo laptop, not even a thinkpad.
>Basically (i think) this thing works as a 6-cell with firmware of a 6-cell battery but since it has 9 cells it lasts some extra hours before discharging and when charging it gets stuck at 99% for plenty of time too, as i said it's not even genuine but lasts like one.
It's common for generic batteries's chips to misreport themselves, you should be fine.

>I have no way to know the real percentage at all, most of the time i use it from fully charged to 5% and the screenshot i posted was an exception to see how long would it last.
The deeper you cycle a battery the faster it wears out.

>>59225006
specs?

>>59225015
>^ supply the battery
supply the computer i mean to say

anyway that apple battery is using patented apple technology which is designed to extend its life because you can't change it for a new one easily, really nothing to do with removable Thinkpad batteries

>>59225017
3320M and 4GB ram no SSD.

listen guys save yourselves some time and feeling dumb, read and follow my battery tips:

>>59213322

and read batteryuniversity.com

>>59225015
>The deeper you cycle a battery the faster it wears out
I know but when reaching 6% basically means "your battery has between ~40% and 6% capacity left :^)" that's a couple of extra hours i could (or not) squeeze out of the battery.

I agree with you about not discharging the battery too low, in fact that's what i do with my phone but when it misreports charge i can't do shit.

>>59225036
>Facebook machine is more long lasting and real world usable than muh business laptop

>>59225079
>I know but when reaching 6% basically means "your battery has between ~40% and 6% capacity left :^)" that's a couple of extra hours i could (or not) squeeze out of the battery.
If you weren't in the habit of running your battery so low in the first place its voltage wouldn't drop to this critical level so fast. Next time take better care of your batteries.

>I agree with you about not discharging the battery too low, in fact that's what i do with my phone but when it misreports charge i can't do shit.
>misreports
Forget about percent and time estimates generated by software written by poos and chinks, look at voltage. It's good you agree, if you read all about it you will believe it even more.

>>59225080
>>Facebook machine is more long lasting and real world usable than muh business laptop
Yes we all bemoan the shit state of chinkpads here.

Also I should mention that all damage to batteries is cumulative, you don't lose up to 0.2-1% of your rated ORIGINAL capacity for each full discharge, you lose it over your current capacity.

So fucking don't discharge your batteries so deep.

>>59225110
He bought a battery that has an identity crisis, nothing to do with how he used it

Where does a simple pleb find a good battery for a t420? Preferably not very expensive.

>>59225220
>Amazon
>Local stores
>AliExpress/eBay

Would a lid for a T60 fit on an R60 (Assuming they are the same size screen lid)? My plastic lid is starting to crack and break, and was wondering if I could replace it with a metal lid from the T60.

>>59225185
>nothing to do with how he used it
Running your battery low habitually is bad, the chip misreporting shit is likely not the culprit.

>>59223668
Note they warn against full discharge.

>>59225327
>5% charge
when the laptop turns itself off, like I said, it's not running on fumes

>>59225067
You did fine

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>>59225383
Maybe you're doing something wrong anon?

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>>59225185
>He bought a battery that has an identity crisis
it also runs at absolute zero

truly a majestic piece of engineering

>>59223463

xx30 are probably the hottest modern thinkpads

60c/90c is quite normal.

>>59225521
>much generic battery doesn't work right with OS X's battery software on my hackintosh
Oh top kek.

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RIP T7250...

>>59225646
I just found it funny, the battery reports fucked up shit in Windows and Linux as well.

Should I worry if a sellers warranty doesn't cover the battery or is that normal? First time buying older hardware like this.

>>59225753
That's normal. They don't bother covering it because they're probably gotten it off some company to flog off, and can't be fucked to cycle the battery to get accurate readings. Just work off the assumption that the battery will have shit capacity.

>>59225784

this is true, the best I got was around 50% capacity which was not bad (around three+ hours).

the worst -actually i can't remember the exact percentage but the laptop would shut down after 18 minutes or so.

>When discharging, the system will completely discharge the Ultrabay battery before it discharges the main battery. This greatly reduces the lifetime of the Ultrabay battery, and also reduces its usefulness for enabling hot-swapping of the system battery.

What the fuck is the point then

>>59225895
an extra hour when you really need to watch that episode of a chinese cartoon

>>59225784
>>59225859
Thank you for the responses. The batteries don't seem very expensive or hard to come by and I found a nice T530 for ~275 USD so I think I might jump on it.

>>59225915
I don't care about the extra hour, I care about hot swapping

>>59225271
Does anyone know this, or should I just take a $12 risk and report back the results?

>>59225975

Yes, it fits.

>>59226018
Cool. Thank you. Ordered and hopefully report back results.

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You guys think the laptop ejector will work with a 10lb thinkpad?

Found a T20 in the garbage at work today

What should I do with it?

>>59226312
install a headless linux and use it to stream porn to your living room.
h

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>>59225521
woah, this shitty software claims my battery is from the 70s.

i know its old but damn

>>59226312

use it as a l33t firewall that basically logs everything you do in your network.

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>>59224654
>>59224666
http://www.ebay.de/itm/172558409472
Ples don't troll

And yeah, I forgot to mention, that it's probably for Germany and neighbor countries only, cause batteries and shipping don't go well together.

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I just bought this for my busted x201 as a motherboard replacement. I previously purchased an x201t motherboard because I didn't double check the model number, but I know this is an x201s motherboard like I originally wanted. Did I do good, anons?

Planning on getting an x200s and cannibalizing its screen, too, but that's an extra $85 I'm not sure I'm willing to drop.

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>want a yoga 14/ 460 with the fucking nvidia gpu
>can't fucking find it

>no other laptops offer active pen+dedicated gpu

what the FUCK

where do i find this?

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I put a new keyboard in my T510, accidentally ripped the touchpad cable when I removed the top case


Anyway, now I can't even turn the unit on. If I remove CMOS, plug into a connector I can turn it on, but as soon as I reboot with CMOS plugged back in, or a main battery in: it won't turn back on


Even with CMOS out, the ThinkLight and other function buttons won't work.

What the fuck happened? Is this somehow the wrong keyboard, is the severed trackpad cable somehow fucking with its ability to normally boot?

Okay so I'm planning on buying my first ThinkPad, I've been lurking for a while and I'm thinking on either the t420 or the X220. I want it for school but also some light gaymen mostly dota and Victoria. Is the t420 a good choice? Budgets pretty limited too

>>59227425
I should add the ThinkLight works just fine when it does that boot flash. But once you're to BIOS or an OS it's nada

>>59227438
If by dota you mean dota 2 the integrated hd3000 on both won't be enough to reach playable framerates (60fps), the t420 has a nvidia dGPU version too but it's barely better and adds heat by sharing the heatsink with the processor.

>>59227438

No, if you want school & gaymen go for the cheapest x230

>>59227438
Don't buy a ThinkPad for gaming

>>59226395
>my software designed to charge a certain mac battery isn't working properly while charging a generic chink battery on a hackintosh
wow who would have thought

>>59227805
>generic chink battery
apple batteries are also made on china, anon

>>59227844
>Apple brand battery
not really the same thing as a generic chink thinkpad battery though anon, even though they're both made in china
>chevy nova
>dodge viper
jeez both are made in the usa, they are identical

>>59227438
>light gaymen
for light gaymen any thinkpad made in the last 10 years is fine

>>59227864
>generic chink thinkpad battery

apple batteries are just generic battery cells with a bitted apple logo on them.

>>59227929
No in fact, Apple uses very proprietary batteries which are able to actually electrically bypass high-resistance cells and thus, with the help of a wider range voltage converter, able to provide much longer life than chinkshit lenovo batteries.

Apple invested heavily in this technology and debuted it in the original iPad. Lenovo's still using 19th-century style battery technology where they just make a big ass bunch of serial connections between cells.

I posted all the links to battery education above thread, there is no fucking excuse for being this lazy and stupid about batteries. Why are you even here? Do you feed yourself or are you provided with a feeding tube and ass-wiper?

>>592279679
man this is shilling on another level .(i call baits)

dude i like my iphone but im not gonna go this retarded over a brand.

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>>59227967
>not knowing apple basically sell foxconn shit with an apple logo on it.

this guy is the reason everybody call apple users faggots.

>>59227889

You need at least hd4000 for quality gaymen

>>59227967

Apple has better battery life because the cpu's are throttled as fuck.

just got a refurbished T420. There's no fingerprint scanner. Is this normal?

>>59228085
yeah some units doesnt have them. or webcams.
you can personalize your thinkpad on the lelnovo website when purchasing a new one so you can opt out of some things

>>59228085

you can get a palmrest with a scanner for $20

>>59228085
Yes but it's a gimmick at best, same as backlit keyboards.

If you need security you're better encrypting your drives with a strong password.

>>59228085
Yeah, it was just an option and it's not particularly useful anyway.

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Hi my dudes. i know this is a thinkpad thread but fuck it , i guess theres room for a thinkcentre question. i have this fucker i recovered from the decommissioned bin at my office, it have win10 but naturally it ran like ass. so im being tried to install win7 on it but it have been stuck there like 20 min, i have tried diferent usb drives. does it means i need to use a fucking DVD?

its a 7303-E3U,

>>59228114
>>59228140
>>59228159
>>59228180
thanks, I thought I got ripped off

the ultranav(tm) stops working on waking from sleep with w10

shit's fucking embarrassing and i need to close the lid again and then try again hoping it works

truly a shitpad

>>59227425
why the fuck did you remove the top case to install a new keyboard?

>>59228487
why not use the trackpoint?

>>59228520
ultranav is an umbrella term for tp and tp

>>59228487
>with w10
>install a piece of shit operating system
>guys help why my machine behaves like a piece of shit

Are there any guides on how to pimp the T420?

>>59228558
define "pimp"

hardware, software, appearance, wut

>>59228555
aero is fucking obnoxious and classic tear city

basically w7 is a bigger piece of shit

>>59228558
pimp it out on ebay and buy a w520

should i buy a usb wireless thinkpad mouse or the bluetooth version?

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This is why I love older Thinkpads.

I was thinking about buying a new laptop, but just decided to upgrade my X200t motherboard to an X201t.

$36 upgrade that should give me at least 1.5x the processing power. I know it's pretty weak compared to even modern i3s, but all I need it for is general web browsing and Office 365.

I bought it six years ago for $430 and probably have $550 total in it now after upgrades. Every other cheap laptop I have owned has had some type of hardware failure, but the little x200 is still chugging along. :^)

>>59228044
please keep current with battery industry news and developments

yes everybody knows apple = made in china but they have unique technologies including battery tech, please feel free to research it yourself

if foxconn=the same then androids phones, dell laptops, and ipads are all the same, right? because foxconn makes all three

>>59228080
also they have more advanced batteries for years now

>>59228798
The x20** series really is the best. I have a dead x201 (screw fell out of fan, fried fan pins, killed mobo) that I just ordered a new motherboard for (x201s this time), and if all goes well, everything will be drop-in replace. I love my little thinkpad. It gets better battery life than my x240, too.

>>59228044
this must be why foxconn is hooking ARM A8's up to those Dell XPS laptops, they're all "foxconn components" after all.

>>59225895
seriously? That's stupidity
ofcourse the gooks wear down the more expensive battery

Well thank-you /g/ after months of reading these threads i decided to see what the hype was about and bought a used t61 for 20 bucks off of Craigslist. I absolutely love it but was bit impractical for everyday use so I purchased an x230 off of ebay bought 5 days ago currently posting on it best laptop I've ever owned. Honestly surprised its more than a meme. Thanks for the tip off on theses things there wonderful.

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>calculate out expenses paid on original purchase, upgrades, spare parts, and new batteries for x201
>$110 for the original, $70 on a new battery, $17 on a new fan, $39 on a new motherboard after a screw fell out of that new fan and fried the original motherboard, and then $85 on a donor x200s for the higher resolution screen
>also spent $50 on an x201t motherboard, but returned when I realized I had read the part number wrong
>$320 total
>mfw realizing I'm actually really happy to spend that much on a 7 year old laptop, because it's absolutely perfect for my needs

>>59229474
>$70 on a new batter
Lol next time get the knock off, you can buy four batteries for that price.

>>59229542
>get the knockoff
I don't want my battery to explode, anon.

>>59228057
>quality gaymen
>light gaymen
Different things anon.

>>59228702
No.

Intellimouse Optical.

>>59229548
Knockoffs are legit. Heck the ones I've bought have had Sanyo or Sony cells, made in Japan. Lenovo uses OEM'd yellow label (((Lenovo))) brand cells even they don't operate a battery factory.

Generic chink batteries are fine.

>>59228798
>tfw bought my X200 6 years ago from some mac user for 100USD
he thought it was an ancient laptop

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just got an x250 for 280 pounds sterling anons (about 340 ameribucks).

Intel i5-5300M 2.3Ghz Processor
12.1" Screen
8GB RAM
500GB HDD
WebCam
Card Reader
WIFI
SIM Slot
Genuine Lenovo Battery
2 x Genuine Lenovo AC Adapters

How'd I do anons?

I have a 500 GB SSD I bought 2 years ago which I will swap in. I think the panel is a cheap shit (768) but if thats unbearable I will get a 1080p for 60 quid - install looks pretty easy.

Fuckin stoked. Thanks /tpg for showing me the way. Should arrive Monday.

But seriously anons - how'd I do? Validate me!

any t430 owners upgrade to an i7? which one?

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about to go get my x220 lads

>>59228930
Did -s motherboard fit inside standard fat chassis?

>>59228537
Not exaclty.
The classic integrated pointing device in ThinkPads was always a trackpoint. With the T30 IBM introduced UltraNav, a combination of both the traditional TrackPoint coupled with a programmable touchpad. The technology for this combined pointing device comes from Synaptics.

I have an older Dell latitude that used to have a CD reader bay. I replaced it by a hard drive caddy and I have two hard drive in my laptop.

Can we still have two "hard drive" in modern laptop?
I have in mind new Thinkpad T series. If I am not mistaken, they have a sata and M2 ports inside. Can I have a M2 SSD (That I will use for / ) and another hard drive or ssd (for /home/ )?

>>59230843

Not sure which series are compatible with hdd cadies, but my w520 could could fit 2 2.5" drives(one is reg spot, other in hdd caddie) i'm also pretty sure it could fit an msata ssd as well.

>>59230875
Anything like this on brand new laptops?

>>59230909
I think the P series has an option for RAID m.2 SSDs. Ultrabay is dead and buried across the board though I'm pretty sure.

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>>59221608
is it possible to make the browser page keys work in a file manager too on linux?

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W520 or the W530?

>>59231013
Thanks.
It's sad that modern laptops add useless features and removes the ones that were actually useful.

>>59228798
>>59228930
>>59230706
Does X201 mobo fit X200 body and screen and whatnot?

>>59231650
>A performance computer or a more powerful performance computer

Don't know if is the right thread.

My budget is 1800 euros. Which is the best laptop my money can buy?

>>59232470
Depends on the purpose.

>If gaming?
Don't get a laptop.

>If doing work?
Cheap shit brand x or 5 year old Thinkpad will run office software just as well as an MLG 360noscope with 32gb of ram.

I'd spend the first 800 on a tablet like an iPad mini and a refurbished Thinkpad and the remaining 1000 would be spent on a halfway decent gaming desktop.

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The latch mechanism of my T420 broke.
How do I open it?

>>59232360
It does, the bodies are absolutely identical.
There are 2 types of screen assemblies but they both work on x200(s)/x201(s)

>>59232716

Thanks for reply. I have already an iPad Mini and a Gaming Desktop.
I need a Laptop for work and replace the Desktop Pc when I'm not home.
I have a macbook Pro 15 retina mid 2015, 2.9ghz etc. But that was my worst purchase ever.
So I need something that I can upgrade for the next 2/3 year. Because of the of that I was considering laptops with DDr4.

Probably I'm only a noob so I decide to write here to have some advice.

>>59232789
We'll, I'm fairly new to Thinkpads myself, but these threads are full of people customising them. The only think I can suggest is to look for something with an IPS display and a solid state drive. If you want to upgrade the components in future, look for YouTube reviews etc on maintenance. You want something that is easy to dismantle. Also, make sure that the components are not all soldered to the motherboard, or it will be next to impossible to change them.

Any recommendations for a portable gay-men mouse?

Wouldn't mind grinding a bit of diablo on my x220.

>>59231480
I'm using nautilus and they work just fine.

Which OS are you running on your xx20 and why

>>59232864

really thanks for your help. Have a good day :)

>>59232768
Cool, thanks. So X20*s mobos fit in X20* bodies (or vice versa) too? The s bodies are somewhat different amirite

btw are X60 bodies and screen connectors likewise identical to X61?

>>59233174
macos because windows 10 is shit, 7 is outdated and i'm not a terminal wizard to use linux

Which model do you prefer in the lenovo's online store and why?

>>59233174
Arch with Gnome on my x220.

>>59222165
>it's ugly
it's beautiful, for a different demographic. What is really ugly are those macbook clones (which you probably own) and gaymer laptops.
That is real ugly.

>>59233174
Windows 7 for generally everything
Ubuntu 16.10 for university.

I used to have Arch but changed to Ubuntu so I have the same system as everybody else in uni classes

>>59229679

it's too modern for you to go through a proper /tpg/ initiation, but the price is alright.

>>59233411
o rly, you don't have to be more of a wizard to install macos than to install and use ubuntu?

>>59233174

Win7 because everything werks

>>59233893
On the X/T*20 no.

>>59232470

W550s

>$Core i7-5500U CPU, Nvidia Quadro K620M (Maxwell chip), 16 GB of RAM, 512 GB SSD , 3K IPS display

I'm thinking of an atom processer, but I'd want the battery to last a long time primarily.
Should I even bother?
And is there any reliable laptops that even use it?

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Hello /tpg/
My school has some exigences: I must get a laptop that is not too small / too tall (14" shall be perfect-sized), core i5, 8gb of ram, a sufficient battery and (maybe) a SSD drive.
I'm a noob to thinkpads but I guess it's a nice occasion to get me into it. What model should I look for /g/entlemens ?

What would be good price for T420 with i5-2540, 1600x900 and 300GB HDD? Following an auction.

>>59234934
T420 for upgrades and workstation-like feel, or X230/220 for portability.

>>59234934
>I'm a noob to thinkpads
Don't get one

>>59233893
If you have a mac, all it takes is copy pasting files here and there. It's not much harder than dealing with a new windows installation.

I personally don't like macOS on that tiny x220 and I use my desktop for hackintosh instead but hey, it works pretty ok.

>>59233928
Everything everything?

Mine has an SSD and I'm not really sure about SSD performance on W7.

>>59233174
8.1, thinking of changing it. I'm not sure what to use.

>>59235020
But not to computer my dear friend :^)

>>59234996
T420 is pretty interesting as I see, what about the T420S ? Thank you

what's a cool logo for a custom bios?

something that I can show to people so they tell me to kill myself

>>59235158
The S is just a retarded X series. The weight difference is not that much.

>>59235324
Okay I appreciate. I'll be looking further on T420

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>>59235168

>>59235406
Heh. Actually that'd make some dumb people around my class to find it cool. Specially the fucker that still brings a guy fawkes mask with him.

How can I train my index finger to get adapted to that trackpoint

The thing feels stiff as dick.

>>59235700
*pirulino

>>59235700
Use it.. Took me a couple of days

>>59235700
It's a stupid meme. It'll never be as accurate as the trackpad with equal amount of effort.

>>59235718
Goddammit with the pirulino thing.

I used to call it clit mouse. I got corrected and had to call it trackpoint. Now someone around here said "pirulino". The fuck is a pirulino? Sounds like a penis. It went from clitoris to penis. At least the first one was closer as a definition. These things don't get bigger.

>>59235873
It's not exactly accurate indeed. I understood the comfort thing with the fact it's in the middle of the keyboard for something easier to reach if you type a lot, but then the comfort goes away when you have to push that thing around. It defeats the purpose. I get less strain from moving my hand back and forth. The only problem I would see is a big trackpad, like those from apple. However those trackpads are actually legit accurate and can be used by a person with butter hands.

Shit if I could, I'd mod my magic trackpad into this little thing, but it's twice the size and carrying it around seems a little bit stupid. It works pretty well on hackintosh on this thinkpad.

>>59235700
>>59235976
try a different cap shape

soft rim made me a believer

>>59236154
I may. I really ain't digging soft dome.

>>59234934
>school
>>>/global/rules/2

thoughts on i5 HP EliteBook 8470p 8gram 256ssd

i can't find t430 with same specs

how's thescreen on that hp?

how do i check if its bios is unlocked?

any other advice regarding that unit, is it shit?

>get x230 2 weeks ago
>doesn't charge any more

how come? the battery light is on when the pc is booted up but it doesn't say plugged in, it's just running as if it wasn't

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So this thing came with my refurbished thinkpad. It has the 040H firmware so I decided "well shit, lenovo says there's 070H update so I gotta update this shit".

Then I run that update tool and it says it's not eligible for that update.

Should I be worried?

>>59222642
I sold my X1C3 used for that after 9 months it was released....
You probably will have 2 year warranty on it.

>>59222787
What the fuck kind of reply was this.
I've heard about the freezer trick but for me, i would rather just buy a new/used battery.

>>59222825
Try out BatMon by passmark.
It shows how much life is being used and it does show how much they have been degraded.

My x230t pen tip is stuck and lost its springiness. Is it a lost cause? Should I get a genuine or chink replacement?

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Who the fuck is this battery guy? Should upload a video mocking and criticizing this dude?

>>59224602
As long as you don't excessively shill it
"Check out this great deal I found"

>>59234049
>>59235090
Could you direct me to best spoonfed tutorials, particularly for X/T*00 and not having a Mac?

>>59222119

>>59225753
People buy some of these laptops and want to make a return on them Because it only lasts 7 hours of runtime instead of 7 hours and 10minutes.

>>59226312
Install Windows 2000 and play some solitaire.

>>59228252
That's strange, it shouldn't take that long...
Dunno anon, good luck
Maybe it's the ram.

>>59228558
My first post on dankpads.com was about the T420 and all I knew about it modding wise last year.

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>>59237221
battery guy?

>>59229679
Very good deal man!! Sounds like you paid half the going rate it is in.

>>59233190
Don't mix X61 and X61s parts, they don't work with each other.
Not too familiar with X200 X201 comparability, just look at the ports and wish for the best

>>59237426
I think the guy ITT who thinks that if you're going to actually use your battery close to 0% you might as well try to charge it at 240v

>>59237309
For the T*00 I'm not so sure. The process of not having a mac involves getting a macOS virtual machine to work. Get to that and you can do the rest by following a guide like this one

http://x220.mcdonnelltech.com/

So you won't be following these exact steps, but if you look at the links on the sources maybe you'll find what you're looking for.

>>59237566
Not sure why everyone believes this, I have created and successfully used Mac install disks on multiple cheap laptops with bad tutorials using Windows. You just torrent the disk image, write it to a USB stick, install clover over the top, copy kexts and it installs.

Certain hackintosh forums spread the myth because they are "against piracy", think that they're operating in a grey area but torrenting the iso instead of getting it from a Mac is a dreadful sin.

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>>59237560
>2017
>Not strapping a 240v Prius Ni-Mh traction battery to your back and using it to power your ThinkPads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrSpi-RCAT8

>>59237629
I couldn't get the disk image thing to work, but if it actually works or not I'm not going to argue.

>>59237862
yeah there are some images that are only meant for upgrades or something like that, if you get one you need to make changes. There would be no confusion if the people who fully understand this stuff didn't somehow think that it's legal and would host a clean .iso

>>59235107

yes, everything works.


>>59236825
>Should I be worried?


no. you see, laptop manufacturers order a batch of these ssd's, shove them in their notebooks, they test them to see that everything's fine, and sometimes they lock the firmware so people don't update/brick their drives all day everyday and blame the laptop brand. personally I never had any problems with these OEM ssd's.

>>59237950
Aight, I will install Windows 7 again. I'm one of those people who would rather use what works better for the hardware than any specific system. All I need is on both Windows and mac anyways and it doesn't need a newer version of windows than 7. I would even try to make it work with a linux distro if I had to, but I suppose the "excellent GNU/Linux support" is still not just as fitting.

>>59238077
>what works better for the hardware

ofcourse, first of all the powermanager and battery maintenance settings actually work with all its options, just be sure you install everything from the lenovo site under the win x64 section.


win8/10 seems faster because it cheats on the boot process, it uses some sort of hibernation when you shut it down and so on.


some say "you dont need Lenovo PM because win8&10 does a better job of managing the power than any outside program" but I strongly disagree with that statement.

>>59238236
Only thing power manager does that other programs can't is show the cycles of the battery. Otherwise it's just a stupid ui that changes the power management settings under Windows.

What would be a good price for T420 with

-i5-2540M
-8GB
-1600x900
-320GB

Worth it to go for 150€-190€ in an auction?

>>59238236
All of it? Isn't there anything from the lenovo website that could be categorized as bloatware?

Note that I don't know much about it. The laptop came with it installed and all the lenovo software, but I was dumb enough to not even give it a try and right away try some loonix distro on it. Quite a shame really. I still have that product key though.

Also, is skipping updates still necessary these days on Win 7? When it comes to Windows and updates I'm never sure. I know there's some telemetry updates but I haven't installed the thing in 2-3 years.

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Is this device on my X220 an actual fingerprint scanner, or just the placeholder on models that do not include a scanner?

>>59238307
It sure is. You swipe downwards on the sensor as opposed to pressing on it.

>>59238307
It is, just install the drivers for it and test it. It has 2 lights. I mean you can even turn the fucking thing on with it. Not that it's amazingly useful. Only reason I use it is because it's faster than typing a password and no one I have around is smart enough to know how to trick it, even if it's not difficult to do (but I want just that tiny bit of security if you know what I mean)

>>59238307
yep, its a fingerprint scanner, search the drivers and you can use it for unlock your laptop

>>59229679
May one enquire into how you got this tremendous deal?

>>59238307
>Is this device on my X220 an actual fingerprint scanner, or just the placeholder on models that do not include a scanner?

Dunno m8 but i just ordered an x250 with fp scanner and the chassis is blank completely compared to all others so I guess it is one?

>>59229679
Goddamn nigga you lucky. I like older thinkpads but that one is nothing short of a good deal and I would go for that if I had the opportunity.

>>59238278

i'm only talking about xx20 (and below)


>>59238284

ofcourse not all of it, just the power manager, power management driver (two different downloads), wifi, sound, video, card reader, camera, OSD, and whatever driver you may need.

also don't install drivers off windows update. install all regular windows updates once, then disable the windows update service and all scheduled tasks, including the scheduled defrag.

also be careful when installing intel rapid storage/chipset shit if you have a ssd. they tend to force an overly agressive power scheme onto the ssd and your random 4k speeds get halved. it's not really noticeable, but for many people the default msahci driver is better (and more granular settings since you can toggle aspm dipm/hipm slumber/partial timeout from the regular control panel in windows).

>>59237477
>Very good deal man!! Sounds like you paid half the going rate it is in.

Thanks anon. Feels good, man.

>>59238470
thanks for the info. I will be looking out for that intel shit.

>>59238520

official thinkpad drivers = v11.2

pic related is the maximum version you can update.

if you experience random freezes or really shitty ssd performance then uninstall the device (with the delete driver option checked) and click on 'scan for hardware changes' and restart. then you should have the classic msahci driver on which you can enable additional settings in the 'advanced power settings' in windows control panel from here:

sevenforums.com/tutorials/177819-ahci-link-power-management-enable-hipm-dipm.html


but, again, normally you should have ssd problems with the default lenovo drivers.

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>>59238624

>pic related is the maximum version you can update.

forgot pic

>>59238624
>normally you should have ssd problems with the default lenovo drivers.

*shouldn't

>>59229419
why was the t61 impractical? thinking about getting one for work/college. would install a very light gnu/linux distro and DE and use mostly for browsing 4chan, programming and using libreoffice, nothing too heavy/graphical

>>59238282
Could i get an opinion?

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>>59233885
>it's too modern for you to go through a proper /tpg/ initiation, but the price is alright.

True, I'm just a novice. It probably barely has any semen in it.

However, I have got to work out storage - currently WIn 10 on the existing HDD, and an empty M2 slot.

I'll need to swap an existing 500GB SSD I have into it.

Will prolly keep Windoze botnet - will read the Win 10 key off the existing install first, then install Win 10 fresh from an external DVD drive and reactivate it on the old 500GB SSD I have had in a cupboard for 2 years.

But the Win disk will just be a front. The M2 disk will be a filthy Linux fucking ass raping pen testing rig, hidden out of view, designed to look as much like Windows as possible when I dual boot in.

This thing has already made me its bitch, spent a week lurking eBay, watching T40's come and go before I pulled the trigger on this one.

Thanks /g/entlemen, havent had this much fun with my tech for a while. Arrives Monday...

>>59238776
If you're a weak manlet it's hard to carry.

>>59238839
get the fuck out, you sound like you're some 15-year-old script kiddie

>>59238816

160max

200max with an ssd

or more of you really really want it.

>>59238842
120kg squat1rep max. am I good?

aside from its weight, is the T61 a decent low-budget notebook?

>>59239002

get a x200/x201

you don't buy a T61 to carry it around all day what's wrong with you?

>>59238903
>get the fuck out, you sound like you're some 15-year-old script kiddie

chill man,
I live in the UK, I can't carry a pencil here without being done for open carry. Security is important my friendo.

Also, it's muh jerb, I work in Infosec.

Also, do one, you sperg.

>>59229679
Share the way of getting such a cheap laptop?

>>59239002
T61 isn't a particularly good choice due to the unreliable Nvidia graphics. If you can find an integrated graphics model, it's fine, but you should really just get a T400 or T500 so you don't have to worry about it.

>>59238967
So it's worth it if it's under 160€ or just "good" deal? Wouldn't want to buy unless it's really worth it for the performance.

Anybody have experience buying a refurbed ThinkPad from Newegg? I want to buy one, but I'm afraid that it'll be in bad cosmetic condition. Has that ever been a problem for anybody?

>t430
>replaced screen
>lid switch doesnt work anymore

Halp.

>>59227864
>>59227805
>>59227929
might be same thing with different firmware

>>59239153

dude right now the lowest price I can get that for is around €140

that's why I said 160 would be a good deal.

and 180-200 max if it comes with whatever ssd so you literally don't have to invest in it for a long time.

also check the battery, for 160-200 you should get at least 2-3 hours otherwise you're getting swindled.

>>59238336
does it work on linux?

>>59239602
Well i got it for 170€ because i need a new laptop so i guess it is worth it.
Battery is "going well for few hours in use".
I was wondering if i could get a mSata - M.2 adapter so i could fit my HP 128GB M.2 2280 in it. Considering i paid 40€ for it i guess the laptop increases in value?

>>59239613
Yes.

>>59239082
>Share the way of getting such a cheap laptop?

Well it hasn't arrived yet so it could be dogshit in some way but...
> High volume eBay seller with good reviews
> Pictures were kinda blurry / poor quality (I still have no idea what screen type it is at all!)
> Built watch lists for a week on eBay - watched lots of very fine t420's , t430's X2x0's come and go
> Auction finished mid week - maybe not many people paying attention?

Patience, I guess - amazed I got it - it was on at 190 until about 10 minutes before auction end.

>>59238307
does winshit even support 2 factor?

>>59239678
>if i could get a mSata - M.2 adapter

you can but it's such a meme contraption, more money spent but the ssd is worth it tho.

I just can't see my self using a thinkpad with the original 7200rpm whirrrrrrrrrrr anymore.

you also can get an ultrabay (another meme gadget) to use that 320GB drive as storage and tweak some power settings (or 3rd party utility) to put it to sleep immediately after you use it.

>>59234436
>W550s

Thank you so much Anon!

>>59239943

The problem is that they don't sell it anymore. In Europe I can't find it.

is it work buying a new t420/t430 of ebay? they are from top rated sellers but are they really new?

>>59239278
anyone?

>>59239678
>- M.2 adapter so i could fit my HP 128GB M.2 2280 in it.


also check the length, it may off by 10mm


>>59240004

you want a new one? because on the nazi ebay there are quite a few used in the 1000-2000 range.

otherwise there's Lenovo uk

http://www3.lenovo.com/gb/en/laptops/thinkpad/p-series/P50s/p/22TP2WPP50S

>>59240136
>>59239852
Was the 170€ justified? Is it really worth it? I'm having backthoughts of getting a shovel of shit, now that i probably have to buy SSD.

>>59240131
are you talking about the magnet?

>>59240168

m8 if it doesn't fit just sell this M2 and buy a regular one. and sell the hard drive that comes with it too. it's not the end of the world, take your time.

>>59236478
anyone?

also what's a good e series dell latitude in that range?

>>59240282

latitude E6430

personally I hate the 8470/8460 touchpad, it's cheap shit. and the whole silver aluminum shit looks like shit.

>>59240282
Latitude E7470
expensive but easy to maintain (maintenance hatch instead of case) and nice FHD screen (96% sRGB IPS)

>>59240439
oops, didn't read previous posts

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>>59238415
>Goddamn nigga you lucky. I like older thinkpads but that one is nothing short of a good deal and I would go for that if I had the opportunity.

Spent about two days in the office reading /tpg + wiki while I shoulda been working.

Fuck it tho, I owe you guys for the tip on this line of laptops. Thanks, sincerely.

>>59240354
i found e6430 atg 8gb ram 256 ssd intel hd4000 1366x768 screen i5 3380m 2.9ghz

250 euro

now what i don't know is how to check if bios is locked other than asking the seller? and also what are the consequences if i buy thinkpad with locked bios?

>>59240439
thanks, too expensive for me atm

>>59240793
>now what i don't know is how to check if bios is locked other than asking the seller?
just ask him. if he lies to you, you can return it and he really can't say anything about it.

>>59240879
doubt it, it's an used goods market in eastern europe but i will be able to check it first on the spot

>>59240926
uh, then just go to bios and check it

Thoughts on T440s?

>>59240926
>but i will be able to check it first on the spot

check to see if you can change every bios option.

a locked bios = locked/greyed out options, it doesn't mean missing options.

>>59241025

ips?

>>59238318
So I just activated the scanner in the BIOS, but am still having some trouble getting it to work with GNOME (running Ubuntu gnome yakkety). According to the documentation, the gnome user accounts menu should have an option to enable fingerprint login, but it isn't showing for me. I then tried installing a program called fingerprint-gui. I have it my print and now I am able to use it for sudo and gksu in the terminal but not for logging in our when given a graphical root password prompt (like when launching synaptic). The light on the scanner comes on but not the on-screen prompt. I notice that in the fingerprint-gui test screen every option except "sudo" and "su" is greyed out, including gdm. Couldn't find anything about it by googling. Anyone have any ideas what the problem is?

>>59241025
trash
avoid *40

>http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Custom_BIOS
>every link includes a download link
>except for my model
>it links to a fucking tut on how to reverse engineer bios and you only need to desolder the chip and reflash it using a hardware flasher if you fuck up

really

>>59241473
because you have a new laptop, it's your own fault

>>59241501
you dont even know which model i have you shitposting faggot

>>59241527
which one is it then you piece of shit

>>59241548
macbook pro

>>59241527
>The xx30 Series of ThinkPads (X230/T430/W530) and up introduced new Intel security features that make it impossible to flash the BIOS using software. You must use hardware flashing methods to modify these laptop BIOSes.

From the same page you linked to. Everyone knows this stuff gets harder with every generation anyway.

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I have an extra mobile line and want to get LTE directly onto my X230T with a physical SIM. I assume latency is reduced (and there is less of a pain with hotspot reconnecting when using a SIM in the laptop)


I'm using shitdows and modem doesn't show up under device manager so I'm assuming there isn't one in the laptop.

The question becomes, is it possible to get an LTE modem for my X230 or is the internal hardware limiting it to whatever network tech speed it released with? Is there a go to modem or is it basically whatever is on the whitelist?
Thanks in advance for any advice

Picture unrelated

How does the /tpg/ IRC look? Anyone even chat there?

>>59241624
the hardware (Internal antennae) and the whitelist will limit it.

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>>59241886
fuck, was hoping the newer models would be backwards compatible with older whitelists (for some stupid reason)

thanks for the input

do you think it's worth wasting time and effort with a modem for an older device like the X230? Chances are it's going to be max of HSPA based on the spec sheet I was referencing. Is it better to just wirelessly tether to a mobile device with LTE? I use the wireless hotspot in a congested area so if I can benefit from reduced latency it would be worth the effort of installing the modem

Please have a picture for reading my bullshit

>>59241994
Just plug your phone in or use a 4G dongle

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I was thinking of getting i5 8gb thinkpad but it certainly won't be good enough for much else than photoshop

this got me thinking, how big is that a leap from say i3 4gb considering they'd both have ssd?

should i just go for i3 4gb ssd machine? and if so please feel free to mention a model or three.

>>59242188
>Just plug your phone
pain in the ass if I need to use the phone

I know this is autism but it's more cumbersome to use a physical external dongle as well. I guess my options are pretty limited though.

I'll probably just go with buying an internal modem even if its on HSPA only. I like the idea of having a ready to use machine. If I'm lucky the Thinkpad's antenna is better than the dongle or phone's

>>59242267

how much money do you have?

>>59242370
i have 300 euros more or less to spend, point is i can find i5 8gb but i'm just wondering whether that's redundant compared to i3 4gb, as i said both would have ssd drive. i'd like to learn aftereffects but i doubt i5 8gb will help with that while both should run photoshop easily.

>>59242432

i3 mobile is shit

with 300 yuros you can get a T430

ssd another time.

New thread:
>>59242547

>>59242267
buy whatever, if it's a T or W the processor is upgradeable and you can shove a quad core i7 up there if you want.

>>59242605

if it's an i3 then it's soldered on.

>>59223256
Where was the part in batteryuniversity.com about freezing the battery to "bring it back from the dead"?