Fell for the meme and bought a refurbished thinkpad x230 from ebay

lol @ old IBM thinkpad. Those ones were the best, I had one in my office ages ago. A lot better than chink Lenovo ones.

>>59207407

The Macbook Pro with retina display does not have this problem.

>>59207534
If only I had the money I'd love to get one. Macbooks are really underrated, they're the perfect developer machine.

>>59207407
can't you just bring up a complaint with ebay, since the item sent was not in the state as it was described?

>>59207655
Do those actually work? I would like to get my money back.

>>59207407
>he bought a 30 series chinkpad
You didn't listen. You fucked up.

File: thinkpads.jpg (20KB, 360x240px) Image search: [Google]

20KB, 360x240px

The meme that keeps on giving

>>59207407
>buy thinkpad known for shitty chiclet keyboard
>complain about keyboard

>>59207407
lol dude thinkpads are dogshit NEET gear. Whatever advice /g/ gives you, do the opposite. There's a reason 99% of Silicon Valley doesn't use thinkpads.

>>59207407
You're really gunna enjoy it when the internal power connector snaps off because it's held in place by a tiny screw hooked into a plastic connector to the motherboard, and the only fix is hot glue. Feels really "high quality" to be gluing back internals on your laptop.

>>59208030

The shitlet keyboards are actually the best ThinkPad keyboards. You know where your fingers are laying without looking and they're not mushy.

>>59208060

>There's a reason 99% of Silicon Valley doesn't use thinkpads

Silicon Valley employees use whatever they want. Mostly Apple computers though so they can develop for all 3 operating systems and some part for the godly stability of macOS.

>>59207975
There's many layers to it
>oh, you bought that? That's a meme! You should have bought this!
>oh, you bought this? That's a meme! You should have bought that!

Probably one of the worst general threads on 4chan tbqh.

>>59207722
I don't see any downside in giving it a try.
If you paid with PayPal, I think you can get a refund via them as well

Hey don't feel bad. I fell for the x220 is good for hackintosh. Let's just say it's not. The trackpoint is sluggish as shit. When I heard "oh don't worry man the touchpad is shite but the trackpoint just werks" I just didn't expect to have to watch out in case I fucking put just a tiny bit of my palm on top of the touchpad.

Also that I just tried Mint XFCE and scrolling on firefox is so much more smooth than scrolling on anything on macOS Sierra. God fucking dammit. I'm thinking of switching if it weren't for a few applications.

It's just a meme. Everyone here has a Mac for actual work, because macOS is the only one that has proper commercial software support, an interface designed for computers, and a UNIX terminal. But thinkpads are ironic and fun for a while.

>>59207407
>pirulino
what

File: efb.jpg (32KB, 638x639px) Image search: [Google]

32KB, 638x639px

>>59208200

DELETE THIS

Sounds like you fucked yourself through a combination of not enough research and a crappy seller. I got myself an x200 and it's absolutely wonderful. Tactile keys, nearly silent, 3h 45m battery life on the included battery, screen and processing power good enough to do daily driver tasks and watch movies on.

File: 32787050780_7289d81612_z.jpg (101KB, 640x360px) Image search: [Google]

101KB, 640x360px

>>59207552
Can't work without battery.

>>59208247
which system do you use?

>>59208213
just wanted to ask the same
the fuck is a pirulino

>>59208200
>Everyone here has a Mac for actual work
kek
Used it. Hated it.

>>59208278
Maybe the clit.

>>59207407
My T60 works just fine with the latest Debian, it's also in good shape physically

Looks like you just have a case of buyer retardation

>>59208263
Operating system? Fedora 24, as I had never used it before and it seemed pretty no-nonsense.

File: pepepad.jpg (185KB, 1240x833px) Image search: [Google]

185KB, 1240x833px

>>59208141
Reason why I'd love to buy a Macbook Pro if only I had the money. This shitty Thinkpad was really a bad choice, I needed a cheap laptop so I said "let's try"! but got screwed...

...Lucky thing is: I sent a complaint to ebay literally 30 minutes ago with pics of the laptop and explanation, and just got answered that I have the rights to have all of my money back if I send this shit back to the seller. You can't imagine how fucking happy I am.

Now, what's a decent new laptop (I'm done with refurbished shit) I can get with around 300 bucks? Anything with an i3 and decent build quality is fine for me.

>>59208313
I'm thinking of trying fedora with gnome on mine. I wonder if Wayland works.

>>59208321
Predator 21X or buy a macbook with gma945 and enjoy THE "quality".

>>59208278
>>59208306
Yes it's the clit lol
In italian it's the term for a small thing like a small lever or a fat guy's penis, there was no better way to describe that... thing than "pirulino"

>>59208334
I actually just finished updating from 24 to 25 with wayland and it seems fine.

I've bought two Thinkpads from Ebay and both haven't had any problems. It's your fault for buying from some random cuck instead of a verified refurbisher.

Maybe you should have bought it from a certified professional reseller instead of some random neckbeard, like everyone else here does

>>59208199
Yeah that trackpoint (in my heart it will always be a "pirulino") is uncomfortable and awful as hell, I almost got carpal tunnel by trying to use it.
>>59208200
Well, Linux is a great system if properly used but yeah, a Mac is the best professional laptop since you can have all major OSs on a solidly built and cool machine.

>>59208247
That's the problem man: they're hit and miss. I got through all the info, both here on the generals and on dedicated subleddits, took all the precautions but got screwed anyways with a ruined one (as I said, I'm probably getting my money back luckily, but you can't always rely on that).

>>59208192
Yeah it seems I'm getting it, check out my >>59208321 post. Thank you so much dude!

I bought an x220 recently and it had no problems at all. you have to look for good refurbishing stores, not random faggots.

I mean literally received it in a really good condition. Couldn't tell it was an used laptop from 2012.

>>59207407


>I got swindled

>waah le thinkpad sucks meme!

>>59208501
Same, X220s are my favorite. Bloomberg hands out X220/230s to journalists for typing up reports in the field.

>>59208321

$300, new and decent? I'm sorry mate it doesn't exist. That's eBay laptop money only. The first ThinkPad I bought was off eBay (x121e), it turned out to be some office mass recycled junk, it had fucking Fanta spilled on it and it smelled like a weird mix of sugar and dust. It also turned out to be from Malaysia. Really fucked machine so I quickly sent it back.

I then bought what's basically the same machine again this time from a small individual seller in the UK. This thing was basically pristine. Not even any keyboard or palm rest wear. Like its been used for about 4 months then just put back in its box and left in a closet for 4 years.

That was extreme luck though.

>>59208426
>>59208441
It was a certified refurbisher, I got all the info before buying one. You have no warranty about the quality even if they're refurbished, mine was also granted as "quasi-mint, always used with keyboard and monitor only in office" but was bs. Luckily masterrace ebay is giving me my money back this time, but I don't think it's something you can always rely on.

>buying used shit

You fucking tard.

>>59208259
... What is going on? Did it fucking explode and burn?

File: 1486176123293.gif (2MB, 230x175px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 230x175px

>>59208468
>Mac
>solidly built and cool machine.

>>59208530
lol at the Fanta spilled one from Malaysia dude

btw you're confirming my thesis: it's very hit or miss. Honestly I'm not really wanting to go through the whole send-it-back process again, I'd rather have a less powerful one but with warranty it won't suck. What about something like this?
https://www.amazon.com/Asus-X540LA-SI30205P-15-6-Inch-Flagship-Processor/dp/B01DMNX5PS/ref=sr_1_9?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1488501323&sr=1-9&keywords=i3+laptop

>>59208579

The hinge on the newest MacBook Pros have more structural integrity than 3 ThinkPads put together.

Face it, metal unobodiy > everything else.

>>59208492
Great to hear that
Shitty resellers shouldn't get off with your money like that

I didn't have any issues with my refurbished X200 and X220 at the time, but I guess you need some luck.

Good luck finding something else, OP!

>>59208613

I really don't know, I think of any laptop that isn't a ThinkPad or at the very least a Lattitude to be the same old shit. That's on the Windows side at least.

I'd still rather use an old MacBook which shipped with Snow Leopard which is in great condition over any old ThinkPad. Its all about the actual use of the system. The old MacBook won't have some drivers that never got updates, no old kinks left not ironed out, etc.

>>59208321
>300 and decent
LOL
Buy a used Toughbook. Even if it's a bit beat up, it will work fine.

>>59208321
>Now, what's a decent new laptop (I'm done with refurbished shit) I can get with around 300 bucks?
Chromebook? That's atom or celeron tier, you won't get a new i3

>>59208663
The only choice for OP is to save up and find a MacBook Air with few battery cycles owned by a university student who used it to check her Instagram.

The problem with this board and with people who are "into" tech in general is that they're all egotistical retards with varying levels of mental illness. If you're even vaguely neurotypical and you get into this shit, any given community is just pure torture. The only solution is to note what they say but to take it with a straight up salt lick.

>>59208663
Well it seems that the more modern i3 on this ASUS is roughly as powerful as the i5 on the x230, and as I will use it mostly with Debian Windows issues are not that relevant.

>>59208613
If thinkpads are not your thing, that's exactly what a friend is grabbing herself.

>>59208663
I was considering grabbing myself an old macbook, but for the price of a T420 decently specced you could only get an abused mbp from 2009 in my country.

Personally, I bought into the Thinkpad meme, and I'm alright with it. But the trackpoint is for people who are way too used to keyboard shortcuts. It pales in comparison with a decent trackpad and it gets actually really tiring to use the fucking thing. As in my index finger actually hurts a little after a while.

File: 0Dhp8Do.png (251KB, 500x580px) Image search: [Google]

251KB, 500x580px

>>59208699
>her

>>59208699
It's still 800 $ at the very least. And a casual university student wouldn't even sell it I guess?

>>59208735

>It pales in comparison with a decent trackpad

It even pales in comparison to the actual trackpad on the same machine sometimes. You can only make quick jerky movements with it. No fine granular movement, you've barely got any control over it and yes, after a few minutes your fingertip will feel funny.

Some people are still selling sealed MacBooks from 2009 and onward if you've got the cash.

>>59208613
that ASUS is the best new laptop you can get for that price. Quite solid with it's metal design and the cheapest i3 laptop.

>>59208786
The people who bought those Airs cannot resist the new 12" MacBook much longer

We should adopt "pirulino" as a new official name for the trackpoint

File: maxresdefault.jpg (220KB, 2723x1532px) Image search: [Google]

220KB, 2723x1532px

>>59208808
kek

>>59208801
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B001P05NKG/ref=olp_f_new?ie=UTF8&f_new=true
they cost more than 2016 Pros lal

File: 0301172353.jpg (3MB, 4160x2340px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 4160x2340px

>Pentium m (2ghz)
>2gb of RAM
>40gb HDD (35 usable)
>Still going strong
R52 has served me well since 2002

>>59208914
>opera
>LoL
IBM thinkpads were great tho. Before they handed the brand over to the chinks they were true professional machines

>>59208838
It looks beautiful and supple like a piece of candy.

>>59207722
Yes. Typically they will side with buyer first but if the seller disputes it there is a chance you could get screwed. Should have just disputed it as soon as you saw it. You can probably get a replacement battery on the cheap though and fix that problem.

>>59209202
See this >>59208321
it seems he got his money back

>>59207407
You would have done better with an x220

>>59209063
R52 model pictured there is the best thinkpad I will ever use
It may not be the best spec or best quality bit that one has been going strong for a long time

Also I use opera because Firefox is too much stress on it now

It's running Lubuntu x86.

>>59207407
>pirulino

Clitmouse you spaz.

>>59208158
because you dumbfucks don't listen
the -30 series are dogshit, and everyone knows it
if it has the new keyboard, it's shit, you moron
if you buy it for ultra-cheap and get a piece of shit like in the OP, what the fuck did you expect?

ITT macfags that can't use a trackpoint

>>59208714
>modern laptop i3 roughly as powerful as x230 i5

Unless the ASUS is using a 35W i3 that's definitely not the case. The i5 2540m in my x220 outperforms the i5 6200u in the x260. Intel has been focusing on battery life the past few years.

>>59207552
Buy a used MacBook Air or old 13" Pro from some hipster who had to have the latest touchbar to feel smug.
Old Mac Minis are also cheap, no one likes them.

File: apple-macbook-pro-with-touch-bar-13-inch-2016-17.jpg (58KB, 770x433px) Image search: [Google]

58KB, 770x433px

>>59207552

You know it's actually cheaper to buy 2 iPads and just use electrical tape as hinges. I can hardly tell the difference.

Why not return it? That is a terrible fucking deal.

>>59210142
2010 Mac Mini on eBay that's still supported by macOS Sierra (Core2Duo) - $250
2010 Macbook AIr on eBay (can Sierra?) (C2D) - $290
2010 Macbook Pro 13" on eBay (can Sierra?) (C2D) - $245

OP what are you doing, you could've had one of these instead of a Thinkpad that's experienced the pleasured of being cummed inside.

>>59210402
What's the earliest year for Mac Minis that still support iOS development? I'm selling my macbook soon but don't want to close the door on that.

>>59207407
You're a dumb ass. Learn 2 ebay.

>>59207722
You could have if you hadn't cleaned it up and used it, but now that you have you will be considered to have tampered with the item and your return chances are fucked.

File: IMG_1863[1].jpg (2MB, 3264x2448px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 3264x2448px

>>59208200
You can run macOS on a Thinkpad.

My main laptop is a MacBook Pro retina 15 mid 2012. Probably the best laptop I've used. I'm getting it refurbished right now so I'm using a mid 2012 non retina 13" that I had lying around. That said, I've had a few thinkpads and they definitely are amazing little laptops. I've got some old thinkpad 7xx's, but the oldest usable one is a T60 which I'm using right now. I'm planning on doing a full refurb on it, and upgrading it as far as I can. It's perfectly fine for web browsing, and with more RAM, SSD, upgraded CPU, and an SXGA+ lcd. The keyboard is goddamn amazing on it.

>>59207552
>Macbooks are really underrated, they're the perfect developer machine

How are they underrated when so many people are using them? It all comes down to personal preferences. One of the things I don't like about Macbooks are the lack of up/down keys.

>>59208213
the only pirulino i know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6uWQX9vOI8

>>59208914
>R52
A man after my own heart.

>>59209726
>if it has the new keyboard, it's shit, you moron
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Wew, this meme.

>>59208321
breh. just go to mac of all trades and buy a macbook. you may have to save up a little more to get a decent non-c2d macbook, but it comes with a 90 day warranty for free and you can add 1-2 years more within the first 90 days.

i bought a mac mini from them and it was fucking perfect for my first mac, but i already have a decent laptop so was more looking for a desktop replacement with a small physical footprint.

>>59208468
>carpal tunnel from trackpoint

nigga wut.

the whole point of the layout of a thinkpad is that you keep your fingers on the home row, and you can easily navigate with the trackpoint without moving your hands, and use the upper mouse buttons with your thumbs. the entire damn thing is designed around *reducing* hand/wrist strain from hours of work. if using it is in any way uncomfortable, you need a basic typing class and have shitty form.

>>59208613
Ever consider craigslist? At least then you can see what you're buying.

>>59207407
>keyboard greasy af
This is due to ABS plastic becoming smooth, something that will happen with almost any keyboard.

>>59211456
"I don't understand RSI."
Have you ever watched your thumb move while using the trackpoint buttons? That might be too advanced a question for you. Not understanding what causes RSI (not exclusively the subject of the question I posed.)

>>59211528
my thumbs rest comfortably on the buttons. i can click with the sides of my thumbs or press space with the tips of them and basically never have to lift them at any point.

maybe it's because i don't have little babby hands?

>>59211571
I was right.

>>59208669
This, also Fujitsu makes good convertibles and they're usually sub-$300 used.

>>59211528
if you are getting wrist strain from the track point, turn the sensitivity up and change your hand position, because you're doing something wrong.

>>59211613
right about what? that YOU don't understand RSI? if that's the case, then you absolutely were right since, ya know, carpal tunnel and RSI are not the same thing. and for REPETITIVE STRESS to happen, there needs to be REPETITIVE movement. 0 movement != repetitive movement.

>>59211678
CAPS CAPS CAPS
0 movement!

I want you to type me a reply with 0 movement. That includes the autistic spasms you seem to be experiencing.

>>59210189
Wait what did they do to the keyboard? Have they managed to make it even worse than the chiclet style?

>>59211732
with 0 thumb movement? sure. just did. still doing it. you know you can press things with your thumbs without actually making movements with the muscles of your thumbs, right?

but hey, what do i know about typing? i've only been doing it for several hours a day, every day, for the last 26 years without RSI or carpal tunnel.

>>59211839
Are you an alcoholic?

Fucking zero thumb movement. How much shit are you willing to lie about to be right? Oh, and I didn't say zero thumb movement. I said zero movement. Not zero sex, you've got that covered already.

Dude. Keeping your fingers on the home row isn't going to save shit. Doing shit top-to-bottom straight through in a terminal still causes repetitive stress. If anything, the rest you get from operating a mouse helps.

>>59211918
you're clearly incapable of comprehending simple english.

i say carpal tunnel, you come out with RSI bullshit (not the same thing), i talk about my thumbs resting comfortably on the mouse buttons and that not having to move them means no repetitive motion thus no repetitive stress, and then you act as if that's not what i was talking about in the first place when i mention 0 thumb movement?

you're just mad that you're wrong. i get it. it's cool. but seriously, you're making yourself look even more idiotic each time you reply with moving goalposts to try to not be wrong. do me a favor and go full faggot and pick a tripcode so i can filter your dumb illiterate ass.

>>59211997
>not having to move them
>no repetitive motion

So how do you press the trackpoint buttons then? Okay, you're a fag and don't move your thumbs. I get it. It's cool. But seriously, you're mad you're making yourself look like an idiot by moving yout whole hand, so you move your wrist, but then you realize that you have to do this more than once, so you stiffen from your elbows to apply pressue. Shit, but then next time you have to move from your shoulders, and soon your body is stiff and you're jumping up and down from a different muscle each time just to use your trackpoint buttons just so you can press "Post" to keep going on about how this whole little friendly reply suckoff isn't even about whether it's "lol RSI" or "lol Carpal Tunnel" but whether or not the Trackpoint will spare you from any serious -repetitive- injury.

It will not. Not allowing your hands to rest or travel under constant use will cause injury.

File: 1482019341287.jpg (161KB, 1200x705px) Image search: [Google]

161KB, 1200x705px

>>59207552
Dongles are underrated too.

>>59212848

>thin laptop connecting to many different ports via its 4 high bandwidth universal ports is bad

God I fucking hate nu-/g/. Where did you faggots come from?

File: 1482041080624.jpg (141KB, 800x600px) Image search: [Google]

141KB, 800x600px

>>59212901
>mactoddler spotted

>>59207407
if you got a x220 youll at least have a better keyboard

>>59212953

Teenage girl scared of wires detected.

>>>/fa/

>>59212848
All those wires really defeat the purpose of having a thin laptop.

File: 1370331043801.jpg (23KB, 358x239px) Image search: [Google]

23KB, 358x239px

>x230
nigger you cant even meme right

>>59207534
>>59207655
t. the apple shill that made this fucking thread

sage

>>59207407
Oh look it's chang again, shilling against Thinkpads.

Why didn't you return the thing anon?

>>59207407

Thats what you get for

a) not thinking for yourself but relying on posts on a sudanese wildtea imageboard

b) being a poorfag that can only afford used stuff

>>59214573
>being a poorfag that can only afford used stuff

I'm not rich, but I'm in my 30's and have spent less on ALL my laptops (I've gone through 5) than most of /g/ spends on their single laptop that they "code" with (do homework at college)

i'm not poor because I don't do stupid shit like spend 1200 dollars on something I can get for 200

>>59210609
Mid 2010 for macOS Sierra. Dunno if the latest Xcode will run on anything older.

>>59214962
>have spent less on ALL my laptops (I've gone through 5) than most of /g/ spends on their single laptop that they "code" with (do homework at college)
I don't always buy the latest and greatest, but my MBP 15" which I bought new certainly paid for itself, because I do actually "code" on it and get paid. iOS dev can be lucrative but you gotta have the hardware and learn at some point.

>>59214962
>i use ghetto nig laptops
hahaha what a loser

>>59207407
>$230
>for this piece of shit
L M A O
>tfw got an x230 for $200
>pristine condition
>only flaw being a small patch of discolored plastic on the top which can be covered with a sticker
>6 cell battery lasts ~4 hours of intense internet browsing with brightness set to 13
>the hdd is usually louder than the fan

I thought thinkpads were a meme but after using one I can say that they are comfy unless you want to use it as your main machine

>>59208364
Anon, di dove sei?

>>59208914
R61 reporting here. Had it for years dropped it off a roof and still going strong.

>>59216779
got a x230 as well, 9zell battery lasts for ~10h on fucking kde with brightness set to medium.

>>59217122
I get 7h on full brightness running chromiumos :)

>>59207407
I really like the design of that laptop in the pic.
It looks so compact and bulky.
It's kinda cute.