/AMD vs. Intel/ The containment thread #1

>>59153250
what clock is Ryzen running at in that pic?

>>59153250
How does it feel to own a ryzen processor?

>>59153275
http://valid.canardpc.com/bench/rjmzdu/1
"validation" button takes you to the home page unfortunately.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1624243/cpu-z-ryzen-1700x-single-multi-thread-benches-also-1700x-vs-6800k-benches

Intel is dum

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>>59153250

NOT SO FAST PAJEET

>>59154665
What the fuck is this man even saying?

The only reason someone would want AMD to fail is if they work for Intel, or if they just bought an i7 and are having buyers remorse, but even then they should be happy that there will be a leap in progress and future upgrades will be cheaper.

>>59154739
no idea. nobody with half a brain would think that a 3Ghz chip would be able to beat a 4.2Ghz both stock.

ryzen will be failure as with buldogers processors. Just words

>>59154665
So

1. Ryzen overclocks better, since Intel is run balls-to-the-walls at maximum voltage
2. Ryzen has a wider L2 cache thus superior performance even when the algorithm is build for 256KB.

Wow, intel shills sure are eternally butthurt. Single and multi-threaded performance proved to be superior.

>>59154843
>buldogers
Wut?

>>59154876

but shit mem controller anon

>>59154742
>The only reason someone would want AMD to fail is if they work for Intel, or if they just bought an i7 and are having buyers remorse, but even then they should be happy that there will be a leap in progress and future upgrades will be cheaper.
I sincerely want AMD to fail just so I don't have to see you faggots flood the board with fanboy bullshit anymore

>>59154895

Intel paid full time illegals to shill

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>>59154936
das it goy

>>59154936
How is wanting a healthy competition and better products fanboyism? Are you purposedly ignoring the fact that AMD not failing will be the best thing to happen to the CPU market in a long time from a consumers standpoint? Really makes one question your motives here...

t. Still haven't upgraded from a 3930k because the gains have been shit,and giving Intel competition will change that. Maybe we will se something more than 5% ipc gains every 2 years.

>>59154665
>algorithm not taking full advantage of cache
>work better anyway
as an alternative case
>algorithm made for 512KB L2
>intel performs like shit
>"b-but it's not made for intel chips"
pick one, faggot

>>59154936
>buyers remorse

>>59155042
>How is wanting a healthy competition and better products fanboyism?

That's Intelfags for you. They're the Applefags of CPUs.

>>59155042
>>59155079
sensible person:
>let's wait until they launch and we can see a bunch of third-party real-world benchmarks
frothing-at-the-mouth faggot:
>HURR MY CPU BTFO UR CPU MUH BRAND LOYALTY HURR DURRR COMPETITION GOOD FOR EVERYONE BUT LOOK AT THESE BENCHMARKS AND LISTEN TO MY SPECULATION DURRR

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>>59153250
It's looking really really bad for Ryzen right now

AMD doing the same shit they did before, add more cores while real-world performance is shit

>>59155543
How is it not sensible to not want AMD to fail?

>>59155592

>I don't know how to interpret simple data

The post!

>>59155042
Wrong.

The sad fact is that AMD will never be able to compete with Intel because their R&D budget is like 1/10th.

Intel LOVES AMD to stick around as a token competitor because it means they won't be broken up due to monopoly laws.

The best thing we can hope for is AMD to fail completely, so Intel is forced to be broken up, then we will get real competition.

As long as AMD is still around, we will keep getting these half-assed attempts like Ryzen that pose no real threat whatsoever to Intel.

>>59155602
wow I can barely see the goalposts now, great job 'jeet

>>59155592
it's the opposite of before
real full cores and hyperthreading vs. module shit
the issue is heat dissipation, just like intel's 8 core SKUs this will lead to lower stock clocks to achieve the TDP set

>>59155621
That's impossible I'm afraid. The only way AMD could actually "die" if they disband on their own. Why are you acting like Zen is bad when we don't have proper benchmarks yet? Even Bulldozer had leaks that showed how bad it was at this point.

>>59155625
Again, why is wanting a healthy competition making me a shill? My last 3 cpu's have been Intel, and for the last 5 years I've been disappointed time and time again.

>>59155604

89.. 88.. 85

is that what your getting at?

because even that from a maths problem perspective seems a bit off.

>>59155592
>1700 gets 3 FPS less than 7700k@5ghz in average
>it's not even overclocked

Even assuming the benchmark is real, and you can't prove it is, I can't see your point.

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>>59155621
>The best thing we can hope for is AMD to fail completely, so Intel is forced to be broken up, then we will get real competition.

>he thinks intel will be broken up when it still has clear competition in the cpu market (from ARM)
>he wants to choose between never evolving x86 or fucking ARM instead of x86 constantly evolving through competition

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>>59155729
It's from some reviewer who broke the NDA.

There's more too that show the same thing.

>>59155662
>Even Bulldozer had leaks that showed how bad it was at this point.

...and we have the same thing for Ryzen. Same shit all over again.

>>59153326
AMD is dum

>>59155808
7000 benchmarks against 2, since the CPU is not even out yet and can't be examined better.
Just stop trying, why are you even doing this?
Is it just to have some fun seeing AMD hype kids panicking, or because you bought an Intel CPU recently and you're scared you're going to regret your purchase?

>>59155850
Except we don't? Everything so far looks promising.

>>59155871
These are the only leaks we have so far, take it as you will

This is just reality, I would love AMD to do great, but I cannot see a single reason to buy Ryzen unless you do lots of video encoding.

>>59155974
You don't have to buy 8core Ryzen.

>>59155974
>These are the only leaks we have so far
There have been may more, proving Ryzen does much better in other games, but that aside, why would you say that it's looking bad for Ryzen by posting a benchmark that proves the opposite?

>>59155762
ARM only provides competition on the mobile market, which is a market intels trying to break into. A monopoly in the server and desktop cpu environment is enough of a reason to break them up. Though the CEO seems to be getting cozy with trump.

>>59154903
>one shitty mobo manufacturer fucked up memory and will fix it with a BIOs update within a month
>Ryzen has a bad memory controller
>2017
>listening to FUD

Will reviews be out tomorow or 2nd?

>>59156350
Wherever date it is, you can bet your buthole that everyone will be publishing them asap

>>59156350
March 2nd.
Tomorrow is VEGA

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>>59153250

>synthetic benchmark

>>59155621
>half-assed
bruh I have news for you

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>>59154936

>>59155808
>7700k 5.15 Turbo is only 3% faster than the 1700x 3.5 Turbo (lol wut, shouldn't it be 3.8?)

Holy shit the i7 is garbage. The R5 and R3 are going to obliterate Intel.

>>59156662
Thank god I didn't build a new PC in december. How much time until R5? I hope I can buy one in April.

>>59156692
It's q2 2017 and it means anything from April to June.

>>59156692
Like the other anon said, it's Q2. I also hope it comes in April, but it might take a longer time since the R5 and R3 are the "failed" 8 cores (say one of the cores fails -> they disable another and make it a 6 core) and the yields have been good.

>>59156709
>>59156823
Fuck me, I'm tired of waiting. I can barely use my 9 years old PC for anything now.

>>59156845
I know the feel. It's even harder when you consider that the R5 1600X will cost almost the same as a "K" i5 ($260) while having 2 more cores and EIGHT more threads.

So I think it's worth it to wait a little more.

>>59156911
Yeah, I'll just keep playing Europa Universalis, and older games until then.

>>59156240
to be honest, we got one boutique vender that used shit ram that even when you replicate timeings, you cant make it as bad on intel cpus, and we got a vender saying the mem controller is fucked all round but could be fixed in microcode update.

then we have amd putting out a 3600mhz tweet with only 2 sticks...

Will ryzen come with anal probe like Intel chips?

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>>59154936

>"I want a safe space"

>>59155543
Being ironically retarded is still being retarded

>>59154936
>I sincerely want AMD to fail just so I don't have to see you faggots flood the board with fanboy bullshit anymore
A week ago there was relatively sensible discussion from both sides.
Now that it's close to launch it's all AMD BTFO!!!!, one line posts and mental retardation about how facts work.
>faggots flood the board with fanboy bullshit anymore
I think you're blind to how the world really works.

>ITT: Intel shills on full damage control

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>>59158875

>>59155604
>Ryzen has worse performance than stock i7 across the entire spectrum
>somehow this means Intel is getting BTFO
AMDrones, everyone.

>>59158670

Nope.

Even their security is open source.

https://www.techpowerup.com/190206/amd-licences-trustonic-trusted-execution-environment

>>59156004
Having a large number of cores is AMD's main selling point.

>>59158950
No it s not..
Selling the same cores at half the price is

>>59155543
shill:
>HURR DURR LOOK AT THESE LEAKED BENCHMARK AMD IS DOOMED RYZEN BTFO HAHAHAHAHA

>>59154936
This. AMD fanboys and """investors""" are obnoxious, insufferable cunts. They don't celebrate a better product for consumers as much as they want Intel to fail because he fanboy, by definition, is a poor, destitute loser. I look forward to the massive pullback in AMD stock a short time after release.

>>59159040
The intel shills are much more insufferable here. You might think that "fanboying" overmthese speculations is bad enough, intel shills are quicker to grab the weakest benchmark andexaggerate in the worst possible way. As much as I dislike fanboys, the shills are just as insufferable for spreading misinformation.

>>59155662
AMD can become insolvent, meaning their debt exceedes their assets, and the company would fold. Very unlikely to occur because another company would buy them very cheaply in that event. AMD is a disaster financially, however. it's been hard to watch the stock rise so rapidly when they have such shit financials; I just couldn't stomach buying into such a clusterfuck. Ryzen will keep AMD on life support but Intel can snuff them out should they want to just by slashing prices for a couple of quarters at the expense of their a large margins

I'm not a gaymer, I'm straight.

>>59159040

What said reads completely different.


>I love rough prison sex with Intel as the sole supplier to my much needed pain killer fix. Where all it takes is some mint jelly and fifteen minutes of hairy man ass to muffle my screams while I'm being pounded by the prison block for a cigarette an orgasm. Until my ripped and torn anal cavity is desensitized from the nightly, savage poundings that my colostomy bag has to be worn on my thigh and I enjoyed it so much all I could do is ask for more

This world would be better off with out your existence.

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>>59153264
kek'd

>>59159082
>slashing prices
never gonna happen. intel have painted themselves into a corner by overcharging ptocessors for so long

>>59159082
>AMD can become insolvent, meaning their debt exceedes their assets

that's not what it means lol

try getting your basic terminology correct before playing armchair tycoon and rationalizing how not making a killing off of AMD stock is a good thing

>>59159082

AMD won't ever be insolvent. Ever.

Do you understand how much IP they own in the semiconductor arena alone? That would make other companies cream their panties for chance to access them?

That they could sell off to the highest bidder?

AMD will always be around. In some form or fashion.

>>59159113
>balance sheet insolvency
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insolvency

>>59159108

hahaha that makes less than 0 sense

>they charged high prices, now they can't lower them!!!!

I'm sure they don't want to lower them but this shit will play out just like DSLRs do. Sales and cuts over time to match a changing line up and threats from competitors

>>59159113
Refer to Toshiba selling its NAND division

>>59159128
Go ask ECD

>>59159140
from your link:
>Insolvency is the state of being unable to pay the money owed, by a person or company, on time; those in a state of insolvency are said to be insolvent. There are two forms: cash-flow insolvency and balance-sheet insolvency.

having a larger net principle on debts than assets does not make you insolvent. not being able to fulfill the terms of your loans does. if it meant what you think it does AMD would have been insolvent for years

back to business management 101

>>59154936
You're obviously stupid as fuck.

I've been running Intels since 2003 or 04 and I want AMD to win so we can have cheaper, better stuff.

>>59154665

Hahaha.

>>59159197
The cash injection from the chinks covers most short and medium term AMD debt, they literally cannot be insolvent anytime soon
Unless they get Brian as their CEO for some reason

>>59154936

Ahahaha faget

>>59159146
Intel having to lower prices at all will cause a massive boom in AMD stock and outlook. It would further nullify their nonexistent chances of going insolvent. You sound like you failed Business 101. If they didn't crash at fucking $1.6 a share, why the fuck would you think they would crash at $15.20 right now. I am glad I bought 100 shares of them when they were at $4.80

That alone would prevent them from going insolvent. But they can't go insolvent either way because they owns the 2nd most valuable IP in the server/desktop/laptop market, AMD64 the 64Bit ISA extension to Intel's x86 ISA (#1 most valuable) that you are most likely running right now.

>>59155974
>but I cannot see a single reason to buy Ryzen unless you do lots of video encoding
You can't see a single reason to buy a processor unless you do things that involve using your processor? Great point, thanks for bringing all of that wisdom to the thread, shitcock.

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>>59159411
hahaha, listen to yourself much? teach me more mr buffet! i love your buzzword strings of bizbabble :D

>>59159411
>intel lowering prices
>ever

Things that will never happen for $500

>>59159446
Why would I be mad? I said I bought in at $4.80, I am ecstatic as fuck since I know AMD is going to peak well past +20 by the end of March.

You just said you didn't want to invest in them because you were worried about their financials. That alone proves you don't know anything if you missed out on a rapid +1000% Earnings Per Share in an 8 month time frame.

>>59159082
You don't know diddly-dick about finance you retarded faggot. Letting your dad fuck your butthole on saturday nights in exchange for the use of his credit card to buy a steam game doesn't mean you have any financial wisdom. Fuck off and kill yourself faggot.

>>59159450
They will probably shift tiers for the next cycle think. The i7 becomes the new i5 with a replacement 12 core CPU taking the i7 spot.

What is certain is that they are going to have to get rid of the iGPU for the higher end processors and add more cores, because they have no chance competing with AMD if they are only dedicating half their die to actual CPU cores.

>>59159446
Talk about painting yourself into a corner. This fucking retard here, geez. I can feel the cringe and embarrassment through this pathetic post.

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>>59159520
The Elite of 4Chan. /g/ where knowledge flows like wine at a Roman celebration.

The totality of the wonderment here is frankly amazing.

>>59159520
See? Insufferable cunts, the lot of you AMD Assmunchers.

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>>59153250

http://www.passmark.com/baselines/V9/display.php?id=78353805729

Someone just posted a bench on passmark of the 1800x. If it's anything to go by, it's going to be a great cpu to get.

>16,000 points at stock

>>59153250
Outlook: Competitive with Intel at a fraction of the price.

It's basically -0% to -10% performance, but -40% to -60% the price.

If you absolutely, ABSOLUTELY need that extra, 0-10% performance, and are willing to pay twice as much for it, then you'll want to go Intel.

>>59159762
It seems to be a great CPU for the money. It is also 10% behind the 6900k. Great CPU, does not beat comparable broadwell-e, agreed?

If intel cuts prices to the rumored $700 for 6900k, 1800x will have some trouble

>>59154665
Well, that's one shill outed.

Come on reviewers, throw your credibility onto the pyre.

>>59159802
One benchmark has it not beating a 6900, it's not just comparable to Broadwell-E, it's better.

>Intel
>Cut prices

Pick one.

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>>59159762

can't wait for all the user benchmarks at crazy OC's.

>>59153250
>What's the outlook guys?
Intel is kill
>>59159916

Any word on mITX AM4 motherboards? I don't care if B350 or X370 chipset. My server is currently a 35w pentium dual core and 4gb ddr3.

I'd love to get a ryzen 1700 + 16GB ddr4. 65w for a 16 thread CPU? You've no idea just how hard I am. Sucks no onboard graphics. Any idea about Ryzen APU's?

>>59159958
No concrete details on mITX boards yet, Raven Ridge is the Zen APU line and it's planned for H2 2017.

>>59159495
>add more cores
lol

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>>59159958

Biostar is the only confirmed manufacturer with mITX boards in the works, the X370 GTN, and B350 GTN. They haven't been released yet either because (if the rumors are true) they are meant more for Raven Ridge APU's, or simply because of production setbacks, since full size boards sell way better then ITX which is considered a niche market and they want those boards out first.

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>>59159921
SHUT IT DOWN

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>>59159967
hmmmm. Really hope this isn't a repeat of Bulldozer/Piledriver with barely being able to use even mATX let alone mITX. For me to sincerely consider AMD for my server, it needs to be mITX with at LEAST 6 SATA ports. Because of no onboard GPU, I'd have to used a dedicated GPU. Granted I never even connect it to a monitor and just use remote desktop... Hmm.

Maybe just worth it to try and snag an LGA 1150 i7? or Xeon?

>Nvidia in cahoots with Intel because AMD failing is good for Nvidia too!
>Add a 'bug' in their drivers that make Ryzen look bad (but not really really bad or it would be too obvious)) in games using Nvidia GPU's
Nobody will know until Vega hits and even then would be hard to prove.

>>59160013
No i7 or Xeon has comparable performance at 65W TDP, the Ryzen 1700 shits all over every Intel offering except the Xeon-D's and ARM boards in efficiency

>>59159450
>>59159866
http://hothardware.com/news/intel-reacting-to-amd-ryzen-apparently-cutting-prices-on-core-i7

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>>59160013
ugh never fucking mind. Intel still wants $250 for an 80w 8 thread base model 1150 Xeon. And a 16GB kit of ddr3 is now $130.

Garbage. Please AMD save me. You're my only hope. Suffice to say I'll probably still just stick with my main i7-6700k build as it's not garbage and I have it already built.

65w 16 thread is crazy though. Crazy enough to seriously make me consider making my Server full ATX again.

>>59160034
That's the retailer, not Intel, read a bit more my niggerboi
Also, Microcenter always does weird in-store price cuts, they even sold the 2500K at 99 back when Bulldozer was launched

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>>59160047
>tfw I started building when Ivy bridge was released
>tfw I was naive enough to believe fx-4100 quad core Faildozer @ 3.5ghz was faster than 3.2ghz of the 3570k
>tfw thinking about it now

Live and learn I suppose.

>>59160060
The FX-4100 and the 3570K weren't even close in price wtf senpai

>>59160082
oh yea forgot to mention because this anon >>59160047 mentioned $99 2500k's.

The FX-4100 was $100 while the 3570k was on some crazy sale at $140. I thought Intel was trying to rip me off charging more money for less GHZ because GHZ is all that matters!!!

>>59160034
That is Microcenter. Notice the 'only available on pickup'. None of the shipping retailers offer those prices. Those prices have been like that for ages. It's just one retailer who only has a pick up option.

That's a totally bogus example and hothardware should be ashamed for falling for it.

>>59154665
Man that guy talk like he just ggt an intel email

defend my goys

>>59160109
Anyone who use that pricing is intel reviewer shill

>>59160109
Yea Microcenter is a strange animal. I love them though. I got my i7-6700k for $220 and my motherboard was $30 off because I bought CPU/MB at the same time.

Then my Samsung 500GB SSD was $40 off because I was buying an Intel CPU. Then both my 16GB kits of Corsair DDR4 were eligible for $10 off ($20 total) because I was buying any compatible CPU/MB.

Then I got them to match newegg price on my fractal R5 case. $85 compared to the $140 they wanted.

Then got a free 128GB flash drive for spending over a certain amount and coupon.

Lastly I got an additional $85 in mail in rebates.

Love living 10 min from Microcenter.

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posting this because I don't have an excuse to use it.

so... any AMD competition to celeron?

>>59160366
>implying celery still matters

>>59160416
Prove it doesn't. Price/performance ratios on celeron/pentium lines wreck anything AMD had to offer since Athlon/Phenom II.

>>59160366
Not yet, but they will move FX to a budget segment. FX-4300 will cost $20 less.

>>59160153
>living 10 min from Microcenter

I have an envy. 30-40 minutes for me, through suck traffic for most of it. By the time I factor in my gas cost plus my travel time plus 7% tax for the state it's located in, pretty much every decent Microcenter deal that comes along is more expensive than just ordering through Newegg. And I can place my Newegg order and forget about it until it shows up on my doorstep ... which is the real deal breaker. It's about 10 minutes of time to evaluate deals & place an order (often at 3 a.m. in the morning) vs. about 2 hours (at best) to drive and shop during business hours and end up paying the same (at best) and usually more.

Microcenter has lost well over $2000 in business from me for this reason. I live in a state where a Microcenter is located, so I have to pay my state's sales tax even if I order online, and most of their best deals require that you physically drive to their store instead of using the online shop even when you are sitting at your computer and looking at the advertised deal. After several years of being teased by that shit, I just removed myself from their mailing list and haven't been back.

>>59154665
so you be sayin... amd made a cpu... that is well-rounded and performs well?

sheiiit color me surprised

>>59155592
>thinking a CPU will affect FPS performance

>>59160366

Yeah. The bottom is falling out of the FX line right now. You can pick up an FX4350 for about $50-$55 right now and it will skullfuck a Celeron. Or go a bit extra and pick up an FX8350 for ~$120, or less. Just saw an FX8370 for $140 about a week ago. I got an 8370e for $105 over Thanksgiving and pushed it (mild OC) up to 3.9 GHz and it maybe draws 100 watts. For that price & energy use, nothing named Celeron is even in the same league.

And if you bother looking at the Ryzen charts at all, you'll see the lowest end Ryzens destrpy anything Celeron class. If you feel for need of Ryzen features, there will be Ryzens at this level for under $150, if not down in the $120 range. Would not surprise me to see a $100 or under Ryzen of somesort released this year just to shove Intel's nose in their own shitpile.

>>59158875

>8c Ryzen draws less Watt than Intels 6c Broadwell-E

goddamn just give us Ryzen 4c/8t vs Intelaviv's Sky/KabyLake 4c/8t i cant fucking wait

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>>59154665
>AYYYMDPOOJEETS post this frog constantly when he says ryzen reaches 5GHz on single core on air
>now he ponints out genuine marketing ploy
>AYYYMDPOOJEETS suddenly hate him
like pottery

>>59160472
>>59160534
>skullfucking
>ever
lmao...
I am from Croatia (we are indeed members of the European union) and these are the current prices I converted from my currency to dollar:
FX-4300 91$
FX-4350 102$
Pentium G4560 66.5$

AMD can literally eat shit.

>>59160573
>croat supporting jews

Good goy.

>>59160573
FX 4300 is $79 in Croatia. Nice try, kike. I thought we exterminated you filthy rats.

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>>59160618

nothing wrong with Pentium G4560. only worthy CPU from Intel right now for cheap as shit goyming.

also why is everyone calling AMD's new Stock cooler 'RGB'? it's actually just a white AMD led logo and a red circle isnt it?

this thread reads like it was entirely written by bots or similar to a copy pasted mashup from ltt, thg and reddit

>>59154665
>benchmark for 256kb L2
>OVERPERFORMS due to his 512kb L2
>OVERPERFORMS
roflmaoing my fucking ass off right now famalam

>>59159997
mITX and ryzen apu in a NUC style case so I can attach it to the vesa mount on the back of my dell 21:9 34in display.
I been oozing cum out of my cock when I began to type this response ughhh killer setup

>>59160638
the circle is rgb

>>59160573
lel, you have it more expensive than we do?
fx4300 is $70
fx 4350 was $78, but that was the 'going out of market' price last year
g4560 is $60.5
slovakia here

>>59160653

sounds bretty gud, senpai famalam desu ~~~

>>59159762
not to be a shit here but why go for ryzen over something like a e5-2670 then? for gaming i could see it, but it woul make more sense to get a i5-7600k or wait for the r5/r3 chips then, and beyond that for workstation you can get a dual socket mobo, and 2 e5-2670 for 100 more than the 1800x is to begin with
I just dont see the value if this really is the case in performance.

real benches when ?

>>59160724

>e5-2670
things i'd consinder:
DDR4 RAM
lower power draw (if u care about this)
lower IPC & Clocks than Ryzen 8c lineup
Quad- Memory (mainstream ryzen dont have it)

whats the price for this Xeon in your country? are Mobo´s cheap?

>>59160781
This isnt real enough?
>>59158875
>>59158881

>>59160788
in the US you can get the 2670s used on ebay pretty commonly for 150 for a pair. mobo is expensive for dual socket, around 300 bucks or so, so you're talking about 450-500ish for platform cost
ddr4 ram doesnt really matter for my workload at least, and despite what very few select gaming benchmarks show I really dont feel that's going to be the make or break point
lower ipc for sure, i wanna say the cpu turbos up to 3.6 though? could be lower though. no lower than 3.2 iirc
as for quad channel again that's something thats nice but doesnt make or break what I've got going on
>power draw
im running an overclocked 8350 with an overclocked 295x2, i do not care about power draw

>>59160808
Nothing is credible until nda is lifted.

>>59160808
nothing wrong with being suspecious, their source is a damn chinese site and posted on currytech

i wont consider this a reliable source, fellow /g/entleman nor i´m saying its complete shit

>youtubers upload unboxing of Ryzen

GIBBE BENCHMARKS BAKA!

>>59160222
I like that picture, anon. Post more.

>>59160781
Thursday.

>>59154665
>B-but the c-cache!

Whatever you fucking nerd, the results speak volumes

Just wait for a real review and both if you Shut The Fuck Off.
Only retards pre-order anyway

>>59160817

sounds fair enough. go for it i guess

>>59160817
>295x2
how does it perform?
I used to own a R9 290 (now fury x) and thought about crossfiring my fury x along with a regular fury, but was a bit concerned about all the possible stuttering and shit

>>59154787
architecture & die size matters dumbass
what you said is fucking stupid, I know plenty of 5ghz chips that are out performed by todays 2.5ghz

>>59155592
if you put the 6950K on that, a $1700 processor, it would be under 7700K on gta V.

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not thinking of the total power needed to run the pc at a cheaper price

wew lads

>>59161321
Run the CPU speed up to 3.7Ghz, as that's the top end of the 1700's turbo.

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Fresh pic of soldered Ryzen CPU :^)

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>>59162075
DELET THIS

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>>59162099

>It's afraid

>>59162075
>fresh pajeet cum
HOW AYYMDRONES EVER RECOVER

should I build a totally AMD rig out of pity and wanting a duopoly to continue?

>>59162205
just get the best performance for your budget and dont think of intel vs amd bullshit

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>>59162075
BUT I WAS TOLD ONLY INTEL USES CUM IN THEIR CPUS

>>59162075
Confirmed solder? Neat.

>>59162287

it's alright, Shlomo, not everyone want CPU's as hot as the oven back in the day

>>59162075
>amdfags will defend cum now

>>59162334
>>59162287
>>59162099

>damage control in full force

>>59154936
I bought an Intel CPU. Everyone around me is an AMD fan. The reason I want them to fail is because they are suddenly using it as an excuse to prove they are better than me. I hate being the outcast.

>>59162384
>I hate being the outcast.
Then stop being the outcast and get an AMD CPU.

>>59162384
>caring about what hardware others use
Either you or your 'friends' are retarded.
Possibly both.

>>59162384

You're just an intellectual savant.

Now take off the fedora and fingerless gloves and you won't be an outcast.

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>>59162514
>fedora
>friends

pick one

>tfw to smart for cpus
I just want a 1500/1600, so I can shit on my friend's 6700k

>>59162850
This guy might be one of my "friends". Please, support Intel. Bullying is bad. With AMD being inferior we never had this problem, so let's go back to that.

>>59156662
>The R5 and R3 are going to obliterate Intel.

Lol you AMDtards are so delusional.

The R7 has already been shown to be a failure, so now you move on to the next thing "JUST WAIT THIS WILL CERTAINLY BE THE TIME AMD DESTROYS INTEL"

>>59154936
>I sincerely want AMD to fail just so I don't have to see you faggots flood the board with fanboy bullshit anymore

This.

AMDtards are truly the worst kind of people.

They're lying sociopaths who will ignore the numbers right in front of them.

>>59159427
The point is that Ryzen is garbage at gaming and garbage at regular desktop use.

The only thing Ryzen excels at is very specific multi-threaded tasks like video encoding.

>>59163192
>exaggerating

>>59163199
See >>59155592 and >>59155808

No exaggeration, there is literally no reason to buy Ryzen unless you do very specific multi-threaded tasks.

Ryzen is a workstation CPU, not a gaming or desktop CPU.

>>59154903
>b-but muh meme controller

>>59163250

>Ignoring the other benchmarks.

Lul

>>59161227
Nobody with half a brain would think we're talking about anything other than Kaby Lake and Ryzen in this thread.

>>59163349
*whoosh*

>>59163250
You sound in doubt about your purchase decision, protect it good anon!

>>59161198
actually really nice. and having both of the cards on the same cooler sounds like a bad time but it really isnt, nice and cool, although i did swap out the stock fan for a gentle typhoon
would be killer with 2 furys