Old tech general

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a digital potato

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>>59153804

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here's nine for you

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Digital Equipment PDP-11/70

what did they even use these toasters for

>>59154001
math

I built an Altair 8800 just after they hit the market.

>yes I'm older than 99.999% of you punks
>deal with it

>>59153373
you can't just post things like that without explaining what it does.

>>59154001
some was just business bookkeeping stuff, some of it was number crunching, some by students and professors for programming and computer research

>>59154104
did you get a teletype or just sit and stare at the blinkelights?

>>59154116

its the first digital camera, stored photos on the cassettes

>>59154001
You could run CP/M on an altair 8800

business applications, games, program, etc

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>>59153804

A E S T H E T I C S

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>>59154557
forgot pic

>>59154066
>tfw all those resistors were hand-soldered by American workers

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>>59154596

Alan Sugar wouldn't know taste if it bit him in the ass.

>>59154789
Was looking at the labels above the number keys and trying to figure out how the fuck it makes sense to store your colors in G,R,B order. But then I realized this thing probably outputs to a TV.

>>59154596

I used one of those as a kid, you had to wait like an hour for the entire cassette tape to play through before the game would load

>>59154010
you will never live to buy a house in an age where energy supply is free and the last architectural fad featured integral replica antique computing appliances

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>>59156811
I here you

I'd love to live in one of those 'house of the future' concept homes of the 50s/60s where everything is automatic and blinking lights and switches are on every wall.

>>59154116
>camera lens
>hooked up to storage medium
oh shit i wonder what it does

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>average middle-class american home in the far off year of 2000

>>59156898
great pic there. kindof what i want to build someday, a short and big quonset hut, but id go geodesic ends instead of verticle windows. will do integral shenanigans if i ever save the money to build

>>59153091
How do you even use this? Where does the keyboard go?

>>59157605
You program it by flicking the switches on and on bit by bit, and then watch the lights output the result.

>>59157536
This is a teletype right?
I hear them so much in shortwave but I've never actually seen one in action, thanks for posting anon.

>>59157589
Is this seriously an instructional/historical video about a fucking rotary phone?

Who hasn't used these?

FUCK YOU WORLD, I'M NOT OLD YET I'M ONLY THIRTY-FOUR DAMMIT

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>>59153945
>>59153981
>>59153997
>>59154010
>>59154028

>>59157589
lots of children have never even seen a "modern" house phone.

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>>59157839
>still have a landline
>people make fun of me for having "obsolete tech"
>one day mass cell tower blackout
>I can still call while they can't
>mfw

>>59157821
You need to stop posting on /g/ and get a wife. Have some children before you turn 40 you numale fagloid.

>>59157821
Hey I'm a 90s kid and I remember those from going to grandma's house

>>59153804
>DAMAGE CONTROL

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>>59157928

That's nice. But you're the one dude who has a land-line in an age where everybody has a cell phone.

So...

>>59157983
Except I have a cell phone and a landline

>>59157928
who the hell are you gonna call if no one else has a landline

>>59157928
gee you sure showed them Mugi

>>59159654
>Early 50's style minicomputer
MUH

>>59159654
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwaeGKuTpCc

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>>59153804

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>>59160398
>>59160715
>tfw there's a semi operational one somewhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-zkkdhkQCM
>tfw this shitty flip phone video is all we have of it

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>you will never have a comfy job in a datacenter

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>>59161163
Sometimes I just wish I had the experience to just go work for a computing museum restoring and displaying all the big iron there.

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>I will live to see modern day technology become as old as the stuff ITT is to me now
>I've already lived long enough for phones to become more powerful than laptops were when I was first old enough to use computers

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>>59161205
>implying this is a problem
>not relishing the opportunity to obtain the best of the best of today for next to fucking nothing in 10-20 years the same way you can obtain the best of the best of the '90s and '00s for next to nothing now
>with an unlimited supply of free software and support to accompany it thanks to the internet

>>59161241
I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad thing. It just makes me feel old, despite only being 21, that the first computer I ever owned is now $50 on eBay and YouTube videos about it are all 6-8 years old.

>>59161163
>no internet
>no graphical interface
>every task tages ages
you'd be pissed at your job after two days

>>59161261
thats just how tech is at this point, imagine being someone who got their start on the school PDP-8

>>59153981
>>59153986

    S
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D E M O N
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>>59161293
you wouldn't have thought of a computer in terms of software and use cases from 40 years into the future

don't know if I'd have as much fun dealing with batch processing and card decks anyway though, development is so piss easy nowadays it's really incredible to imagine how we lived with ourselves before
https://youtu.be/hxVbRz6udmI

>>59154789
top fukken kek

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I really wish I could find a spinning mainframe tape drive just to use it as decor (kinda like how people have antique gas pumps in their mancave). Too bad they're only in museums.

>>59161940
Just buy a reel to reel, looks awesome too

>>59154043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV57WT5SVSg

>>59154104
Sup gramps.
Hows that rocking chair?

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>>59162669

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>>59162682

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>>59162710

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>>59162724

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>>59154104
Lets see... The altair 8800 was released in 1975, and you were probably around 20 when it came out

2017-(1975-20)=62

ur old faget

>>59153804
DELET THIS

>>59154789

Clive? Aren't you supposed to be dead?

>>59163698
What the fuck are you talking about, Sir Clive Marles Sinclair is doing fine, alive and well.

>>59161205
I used to think this was wrong, that building things smaller would always be more expensive than making things big. It's really clear that with the popularity of high powered cell phones it will just keep getting worse and worse until no one wants to create parts full sized PCs because the components are so radically different from cell phone parts

whatever processing and heat limitations exist in phone-sized devices will be the threshold of modern computing.

>>59154596
>manual tape buttons

What was the point of these? Wouldn't it make more sense to control this in software?

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>>59153091

>>59163865
It's still controlled in software for some part, just that making it fully in software would have been counterintuitive, because the point was to keep the price low

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVgc8ksstyg

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I like the last 10 seconds of the video, so spot on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tx6TYnPat8

>>59163956
I suppose you're right, the actuators would have increased the cost.

What doesn't make sense is all the PCs with manual eject floppy buttons well into the Windows era when normies had started using computers, and they kept ejecting without unmounting and wondering why their files got corrupted.

>>59164309
You wouldn't normally eject a floppy when the light was still on and the device was making noises

What you are talking about was usually the deal when USB flash drives first came on the market

>>59164273
>when she's handling the wax cylinder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnsizkVjGm8

>>59164503
kek, poor guy
but that probably wasn't really that rare

>>59157928
>what is voip

>>59154596
BASED AMS1

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>>59165955
kek

>>59165955
>>59166043
kek mr.samefag

>>59161940
Probably still a lot hanging around in storage, I'd like one myself just because I love the technology inside of it, too bad I'd never have space for the entire setup to go with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJlqLyvAzNc

>>59153981
industrial design was fucking better before I swear

>>59157204
> this is what boomers actually had

>>59161163
I work at IBM, command center. It's comfy.

>>59159476
Context for this photo?

>>59168785
dude has a fetish for weird shapes

>>59164169
i had one of those. i liked that i could record from an input or use straight digital files

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Question:

How far back in time would you have to go for the Iphone 7 to be a more powerful computer than the most powerful computer in the world?

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>>59168852
>you

>>59168930
around the early 1900's when they recovered the alien spaceship

>>59168930
supercomputer? two and a half decades

>>59168930
spec sheet wise probably mid 1980s
but practically probably mid 1960s or early 70s at best in terms of the workloads you could actually expect to get through

I have a hard time believing any smartphone could reliably handle as many users, virtual machines, sustained load etc. as even an S/360 could

>>59169336
you don't seem to understand how timesharing works

Computers used to be so aesthetic
What happened

>>59169470
>What happened
The mass market aka plebs.

>>59169360
I know enough to bet that your phone would probably choke under 100+ concurrent users doing anything meaningful

>>59169499
still you don't seem to understand it

>>59169360
You don't seem to know much about I/O.

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>>59153804

>>59169336
If it had proper software for multi user workloads, it obviously could, the best supercomputers from the 80's could not even get into the GFLOPS raw power, yet alone into hundreds of them that todays smartphones are able to achieve.

>>59169499
>>59169541
>I know enough to know that a phone with several cores at several gigahertz, gigabytes of ram and wireless throughput of several hundred megabytes pet second CAN'T be as powerful as a 8-bit CPU running at a few megahertz with couple dozen kilobytes of ram
sounds legit

>>59164503
I watched this live

>>59157928
> Go to University
> Dorm room has landline, mom wants me to take an old phone as emergency line
> In winter, big ice storm hits
> University only place in city with power thanks to fuckhuge generators and coal boilers (yes it's an old uni)
> Cell towers go down, nobody can call home
> mfw I can actually call people over landline
> Start charging for use of the landline in my room

Good times.

After that, I started charging to repair Game Boy carts as most copies of Pokemon RBY had dead batteries by then and I had already tracked down a gamebit screwdriver. $20, battery costs $5. Nice $15 profit.

>mfw English degree

>>59169671
landline phones don't need active power, if the line is up, it has power

>>59169671
>wired infrastructure being better than wireless

Pretty much by definition.

>>59164169
I still love my minidisc player, too bad its useless for me

>>59169938
Louisiana's trying to shoehorn in online testing, and that's nice when wif-i's available, but what about when the internet's down? I brought it up before and the response I got was more or less "Don't worry, it'll be fine."

>>59169552
if it was purely just a matter of MIPS/FLOPS then supercomputers and mainframes would have died long ago, system design, features and utilization is important too, there's a reason you saw SGIs and older Crays seeing use well into the 2000s for example, or why supercomputers and mainframes in general haven't totally succumbed to competition from commodity clusters

you may not be entirely wrong though, it's something I'd love to put to the test if I could find a good way to simulate heavy multi-user workloads, lots of VMs, etc
>>59169638
>8-bit
yeah... you really have no idea what the typical mainframe or supercomputer back then was capable of, do you?

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>>59157204
hey, i have all that!
minus all the useless stuff, of course

>>59170297
>VMs on a 70's/80's mainframe
kek

>>59159708
>yfw you realize the whole picture is to scale, rather than the bottom half being closer up

>>59170177
Internet should never be down though. Why is wired phone lines more reliable than fucking fiber optics?

>>59153981
sexy as fuck

>>59170297
>yeah... you really have no idea what the typical mainframe or supercomputer back then was capable of, do you?
check wikipedia if you want to, smartass
a computer with instructions per second in the tens of thousands and memory latency in several hundred milliseconds sure was faster than a modern smartphone, totally agree, you are the smart one here afterall

>>59170434
>instructions per second in the tens of thousands and memory latency in several hundred milliseconds
sounds legit
what were all those instructions doing during the large amounts of time memory was inaccessible?

>>59170569
exactly, you don't know shit, stop trying to be smart

>>59170583
i think you have me confused with someone else

>a old mainframe with transistor count in the tens of thousands is faster than a modern chip with hundreds of thousands of transistors
Be real guys.

>>59170297
>if it was purely just a matter of MIPS/FLOPS then supercomputers and mainframes would have died long ago
That's exactly what supercomputers are about, raw power you dip.

Also.
Timesharing was exactly that, sharing CPU time, they where slow, users literary shared CPU cycles, they didn't run everything at once, even on heavy loads.

>>59170617
>modern chip with hundreds of thousands of transistors
try a few billion

>>59170696
We are talking about ARM, it was just a few years ago that desktop CPUs went over the billion mark.

>>59170664
>they didn't run everything at once
you think modern computers can run everything at once?
chances are you have far more threads "running" that you have cores in your computers, they don't all run at the same time, they share the cpu just like they used to

>>59170359
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_CP/CMS
Virtualization in one way or another has been an important aspect of mainframe computing since the 1970s. Full utilization of a system that can cost millions of dollars just to run in a year is important.
>>59170434
>check wikipedia if you want to, smartass
Yeah, I've done my share of wiki surfing, you should too. Most high-end systems were 32/36-bit, supercomputers like Cray designs were 64-bit.

>a computer with instructions per second in the tens of thousands and memory latency in several hundred milliseconds sure was faster than a modern smartphone, totally agree
You realize there's more to computing performance than theoretical peak MIPS/FLOPS, right?
Serious supercomputers of the time weren't using the same shitty DRAM as your C64, mainframes had tons of additional hardware and subsystems that gave them ridiculous I/O and reliability. Your phone might pull a nice score on Geekbench but you sure as fuck couldn't drop one in to replace an old S/390 and expect even nearly the same results, especially with the hideous I/O bottlenecks it would have.

>>59170664
>That's exactly what supercomputers are about, raw power you dip.
Yeah, and how do you think they obtain that raw power? It isn't solely in the nebulous "instructions per second" peak tabulated from benchmarks using tiny data sets. Think beyond the numbers.

>Timesharing was exactly that, sharing CPU time, they where slow, users literary shared CPU cycles, they didn't run everything at once, even on heavy loads.
No shit, what do you think modern systems are doing most of the time?

>>59153804
dude.....

>>59170718
>I/O bottlenecks
literary even USB 2.0 is faster than the whole bus of those old shits where

>>59170772
Not really. But go try and set up a large time-sharing/virtualization system on your phone, I actually genuinely would love to see how it works out.

>>59170802
>not really
>literary could only support a few dozen terminals connected to it, each with speed measured in bauds

>>59170717
>>59170718
Timesharing was very different from modern threading.
The concept is the same, but the utilization was way worse.

>>59170802
just open a ssh server on your phone and log into it a hundred times, you won't have any problems and the encryption of it will already be way more performance heavy than what a single user would have used on a mainframe

>>59170830
You're /literally/ just sputtering out random bullshit at this point, probably hoping that the people who know more than you will simply give up or become so confused with the current line of discussion that they'll go away.

Mainframes back then and today usually service thousands of users and terminals concurrently, usually for financial transactions, control, inventory, etc.

>>59170853
Sure.

>>59170881
>just log in and do literally nothing a thousand times
A toaster can handle SSH encryption, dude. You seriously have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

Just stop posting.

>>59168938
:^)

>>59169336
No fucking way an S/360 could outperform an iPhone even running tasks strongly biased in favour of the S/360.

I'm sure the current iPhone is on par with the most powerful computers of only a couple of years back. At least in per-core performance, for problems that lend themselves to parallelisation you'd have to go further back in time, but how far would vary depending on the problem you're trying to solve.

>>59171526
Yeah, I was getting a little (You)-greedy on that one, a modern smartphone is obviously going to blow anything from about the late '80s-back on most things regardless of its internal design decisions, you could totally run a small multi-user system on a phone or low-end SBC and actually get use out of it, I/O aside.

But that old big iron was no slouch none the less, and I still don't believe you could've taken say, an S/370 and replaced it with a mid-range Samshit device running Linux and gotten nearly the amount of reliability and consistent performance under heavy strain those things were routinely expected to handle. It just wasn't built for that kind of work.

>>59154789
Piss off Clive

>>59170973
>Mainframes back then and today usually service thousands of users
kek, not true, hundred was even a lot for it

>>59170973
>A toaster can handle SSH encryption
yet even a high end PC from 20 years ago has problems with it

>>59170973
>A toaster can handle SSH encryption, dude.
for just plain cli stuff, sure, but try pushing a lot of data through it on a cpu without special accelleration for it and it can be quite considerable

ever tried transferring data using scp to a raspberry pi?

>>59172851
>cited: my ass
Banks, supermarkets, universities, factories, you name it, there were many installations in these kinds of places that had upwards of hundreds to thousands of terminals and lots of concurrent jobs.
>>59172871
Not really, I use SSH on shit that old all the time, furthest back I've gone as a client is a 25-year-old Quadra 700 running 7.0.1 that handled it fine. Using NetScape and Acrobat at the same time, too.

>>59172926
I used SCP transfers a lot on the aforementioned brick in >>59173009, didn't seem to have any real problem with it.

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>>59154789
you beat me to it.

>>59161297
That would be me. It rocked.

>>59173126
nice
I've only messed around with 8s in emulators, they're obviously limited in what they can do but still fun to use if you're a little creative

>>59153804
kek

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>tfw this will never be mine

>>59173924
I had one, and you can sometimes find them for less than $100 (just the unit)

>>59154596
Haken Affinity ?

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>>59174065
The AT/370? I don't think I've ever even seen one on the market.

Regular ATs are cool too, might pick one up some day if it ever shows up at the recycler.

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>>59174139
I just google'd that

woah I never knew they made IBM System/370s in desktop form

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Surprised not to see this here.

Way before its time.

>>59175130
Yeah man, they had an XT/370 too, and a bunch of PS/2 based solutions.

Rare as shit and cool tech inside, not really sure what their target market was. Maybe developers on really busy installations?

>>59175255
I'd like a mono slab down the road, their software base seems to be pretty well archived so I'd probably be able to actually use it.

>you will never slap the ass of your secretary while you sip scotch at your crony desk
>you will you never smoke a cig in front of the greatest computational minds in the US at IBM
>you will never park your lincoln in the back of the lot and hope the russians don't annihilate you
>you will never recklessly donate money to the third world because your future is so bright
>you will never run your hand across the smooth beige surface of the future of the US

we can never go back.

>you'll never throw a retirement party for your mainframe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwOkVgGw1z8

>>59159708
I had a 1024x786 monitor until well into 2000s.

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>>59177216

>>59177253
1987 by the way

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>>59170368
>your other face when you realize that isn't a 5.25'' floppy drive either
>>59177216
same

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Still fuking want this thing. With Voodoo2 card installed.

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>>59177416
wew lad good luck

>>59177416
>>59177480
I got one for free at a charity shop when I was 13 and threw it out a few years later because "hurr durr Apple sucks" and because I couldn't install anything.

I'll kill for one now

>>59157719
>shortwave
what do you mean by this? shortwave radio?

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>>59153986
Isn't that Maisie Williams?

>>59175399
>I'd like a mono slab down the road, their software base seems to be pretty well archived so I'd probably be able to actually use it.

I have a Cube and a Turbocolor. Beautiful machines.

Coolest gadget was the Dreambox - a licensed set of Mac ROMS that connected to the DSP port and turned it into a Mac.

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>>59177851
They were a little pathetic stock, though I like that, makes my top-end shit feel that much faster.

iMacs themselves aren't too hard to come by, though I'm having difficulty lately because my source straight up turns away anyone trying to donate anything with a CRT in it. I need a good G3/333 to complete my iShit collection.

>>59178009
You're the first person I've ever heard of on /g/ with a Cube. Honestly if I had the disposable income I'd go full retard and order a nice one from blackhole and hang on to it as a fucking heirloom piece, they're like practical art.

>>59178055
>You're the first person I've ever heard of on /g/ with a Cube. Honestly if I had the disposable income I'd go full retard and order a nice one from blackhole and hang on to it as a fucking heirloom piece, they're like practical art.

I left that over at the folk's house. Brought the Turbocolor with me. My cube setup was just like the pic posted. Cube, monitor, laser printer and three "accessory boxes" with mouse and keyboards inside. A stack of boxed software.

University computer store was blowing them out, $300 for everything.

>>59178124
Hope most of them found homes. All I've got is a laser printer missing the tray that was going to be tossed by the store that had a color slab on display.

>>59154596
>tfw will never own a keyboard with inbuild maymays

>>59175255

It breaks my heart that every piece of tech today is super slim and ultra thin. Everything's a quadrilateral slab.
I miss depth. No one dares to invest on non-thin design because OMG thats so bulky

>>59178553
Workstations haven't changed much in that department, luckily. And thin stuff can still look nice if effort is put into it. The problem is more that nobody puts effort into their systems anymore, since all it does is make them less competitive in the end because it's all about the biggest numbers at the cheapest prices instead of having a nice experience that gets the job done.

>>59178553
There's nothing wrong with thin, the problem is no one puts effort into atheistic. Everything has to be a shitty Apple clone.

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If this thing still works, which it should since everything else I found in this room does, how much is it worth?

>It belongs in a musem

Yes, and it is going in a museum, im just curious.

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>>59179030
>effort into atheistic

>>59179182
lol I was confused there for a while

***********aesthetic

>>59157005
Records images as sounds?

I'll never have a way to prove it, but I firmly believe that if, back in the day, if Linus Torvalds had started on a NextStep clone rather than a command line Unix clone, then Microsoft would be all but gone by now. Also, that the web probably wouldn't have been necessary.

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>>59178008

>>59180260
Microsoft was already leading by then.

>>59180313
model of some building or city block? looks neats

>>59180335
True, and NextStep would have probably found a way to sue any open source clone at the time. I appreciate that the conditions weren't right at the time. It's mostly just a "what might have been" kind of idea in my head by this point. At any rate, it sure would have been better than what we ended up with.

>>59157928
i don't think you've thought this through

>>59180367
It's a replica of Konrad Zuse's Z1 mechanical computer, which he built in the 1930s. It was destroyed in the Berlin bombings, which is why there are no, or very few pictures of the original Z1.

>>59180428
why?

>>59180726
wut

>>59180441
That's real cool

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>>59180726

>>59153804
dayum

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1st processor i ever had, 256mb memory with geforce 2 and some 3rpm hdd, could play cs when it was free and not some steam faggot bullshit

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>>59179064
gimme

>>59179064
Where did you find it?

>>59168938
well played

>>59153804
WEAK

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>>59163794
It won't happen. People need to work and other people play video games.

>>59170368
Nice haha

>>59182171
no

>>59182208
It was used by air traffic control in Yugoslavia, it of course got obsolete but they kept it in storage until they decided to throw all of their old stuff out a few years ago, thankfully the place I work at offered to take it and store it here. This stuff is laying here for quite a while now, but I pointed the good stuff out to my boss and we will try to donate it to a technical museum in my country.

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>>59179064
Since it's a pretty rare piece that's only really desired by a museum or specific kind of collector, there's no good answer to that. It doesn't seem like most big iron guys pay all that much for their gear if anything, and businesses often end up scrapping them. Not necessarily because they're undesirable/irredeemable shit nobody wants, but just because they're so fucking huge and difficult to operate in a useful manner that it takes a special kind of person to go through with acquiring one.

It's really not every day you see even a small system like that show up, especially one that hasn't been beaten/rusted to shit. The reason I recommended a museum in the last thread was that it was probably a consistently guaranteed way to get something like that to a home if you needed to get rid of it quickly.

>>59180260
I don't know, GNUStep was a thing while the general look-and-feel of NS was still competitive and it didn't seem to do much for the platform.

>>59183141
What other stuff do you have, anyway? You said you had some military systems and the like too as well. Any warsaw pact gear?

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>>59183220

I haven't really inspected anything in detail since I don't have the time for it, but I think this is the oldest of the bunch, there is some neat tech like radars, oscillators and other stuff that I don't really have an idea what it could be. Otherwise it's mostly laptops and desktops from the 80's and 90's. I got one running since I only had a compatible charger for this one.

>>59179064
Depends on the museum, if it's some amateur museum or a real museum sponsored by corporate, I have only made deals with the latter and it's always just "just say a number, money is not an issue".

>>59183220
>I don't know, GNUStep was a thing while the general look-and-feel of NS was still competitive and it didn't seem to do much for the platform.
GNUstep was just that, look and feel, it didn't have any of the things that made NEXTstep good, like it's advanced networking, postscript, in house APIs

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"The quality goes in...
...before the name goes on!"

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>>59185288

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bump

>>59180260
NextStep isn't all that special compared to other proprietary Unix derivatives of the 90s. Objective C and Project Builder were slightly nicer than C++ and most IDEs, but that's basically it. IRIX and Solaris had similar graphics systems. Also, I doubt that a Finnish student in 1991 could get his hands on a NeXT machine, and don't forget the role that Minix played in making Linus write his own Unix clone.

An open source Genera clone would be more interesting, and Richard Stallman even replicated some of the features of Genera for LMI before starting FSF, but the MIT approach to system design doesn't seem to be compatible with open source.

>>59158007
checkmate

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>>59153804

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I wrote my first programs on this thing

>>59188632
one tower fails, you think the whole world will be without signal? more like a 10km radius only

>>59188650
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJzOErvJwZs

>>59188674
>mass celltower blackout
>one tower fails

make up your mind l33t

>>59170309
Bit better photoshopping, that could be a cover for something.

>>59188707
I'm not OP
I doubt that the "mass" means every single one, a failure that magnitude would be in the news

also, don't different cell phone service providers use different towers? I'd understand if one service provider has a blackout, but all at the same time?

>>59154104
Oh, I remember speaking with someone like that here earlier.
It broke shortly after, no?

>>59188795
Att lends his towers to smaller carriers for a fee.
read net10, cricket

>>59188698
Very cool. I wasn't aware of 80 column modes.

I did get a C-1084 monitor. The text quality was much superior to conventional TVs, nevermind that like most kids, I started out with old, small TVs that someone else threw out.

>>59160879
A manlet. Bet he was more masculine than most men we have today.

>>59180489
kek

>>59188888
>Very cool. I wasn't aware of 80 column modes.
Same here, I just tried a few soft based versions and they work great, have it connected to a LCD right now but thanks to S-Video and the LCD monitor the 80 column mode is quite usable even in colour.

>>59190534
can it calculate crysis?

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started a new thread on accident, didn't see it because i just searched /otg/

>>59177416
i had a green one of these not even 6 years ago
i gave it to a scapper who takes shit apart and sells the metal


i think i made a mistake...

>>59159466
A E S T H E T I C

>>59190666
They are easy to find and still cheap nowadays, get a new one. But they ain't anything special to begin with.

>>59190592
supposedly it's turing complete, so, given enough memory and time, sure

>>59157821
yeah you're old

>>59157821
tech is a young mans game

try not to get left behind gramps

>>59190603
>dell quietkey
>printer calculator
>assorted vinyl
babbys first time at goodwill

>>59192696
i got the quietkey from my grandma
use to use a modern membrane and it sucked

as for the calculator it was sitting outside a classroom with a note that said take me on it

the vinyl was from a garage sale that i intended to do a project with

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>>59153804
>tfw

>>59192830
time to upgrade grandpa

>>59190666
Sucks but they still made millions of the damn things. Wouldn't bother kicking yourself over it if it had no sentimental value.

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>>59183594
Sounds like some nice stuff, blog about it some time.

>>59183645
Very true, how long did it even take them before they got a working free objective-C front end for GCC again?

>>59175255
>That screen size
My dick!!!!!

applel killed design, they had some decent designs in the past (though a lot were ripped off from other stuff)

>>59183141
Yugoslavia itself got obsolete.

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>>59153804

>>59194259
Consumerism did. There's no point in putting effort into a product that won't be appreciated because it has smaller numbers than something cheaper.

>>59181233
Whatever happened to slot CPUs?

>>59194833
Its also the same thing car manufacturers do
They could make all cars look fucking great but if they did they wouldn't sell as many of the "luxury" cars
So they make the low and mid tier cars look low and mid tier so they can sell more high end cars

>>59194702
profound

>>59195085
Cache went back on the chip so there wasn't any need for a more expensive package anymore.
>>59195153
Feels like in the last 3 or so years the major shitbox makers have really tried to differentiate themselves, however. And I love it.

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have a webm

>>59198340
tnx bro, but I have seen the video

>>59192696
>degenerate collector detected

>>59157561
>tfw still babysitting a few of these at the office

>>59200557
What is it, small "printing press" for large volume printing??

>>59161297

i think this is one thing we are missing out on today as younger whippersnappers. greybeards starting out on minicomputer kits or even clones up to e.g. mid 1980s level stuff could feasibly have a top-to-bottom 100% understanding of their machines as hobbyists.

that's beyond anybody today. i think that's part of why embedded hardware tinker projects are becoming bigger - a lot of people relish the idea that they have "full control"

>26 yo
>my first: some IBM PS/2 model

networking and mobile devices have been incredible to witness the progression. i feel like everything else in desktop-land is just better faster cheaper. and that's okay.

>>59200783
It's a dot matrix impact printer in a big insulated box meant to deaden the unholy racket. Code listings are pretty comfy.

>>59195085
>Whatever happened to slot CPUs?

edge connectors are shit for signal integrity and bandwidth/trace counts.

their only benefits are more surface area for cooling (mitigated by tighter physical constraints for mounted hs/fan) and being able to squeeze more components in side-by-side (also worthless now with IMCs that need DIMM slots adjacent to CPU socket too).

>>59201643
The actual reason is that we don't have to have cache chips near the CPU anymore.

>>59193329
>>59175255
those look the bestest

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>>59161261
Im 21 and my first pc was Toshiba Satellite 110CS, atleast it had color LCD. I still have it laying around. HDD is shot but I'll put CF card with IDE adapter.

>>59195453
>Feels like in the last 3 or so years the major shitbox makers have really tried to differentiate themselves, however. And I love it.

Really? To me it looks like they all just made their cars look angry because that's the new car designer meme