>b-but ryzen has issues with ddr4 and cant run high freq ram

>>59151136
This meme only happened on one specific asus board, and they keep telling that it's the processors fault

Intel shills are more dishonest than cnn

>>59151136
You didn't understand it in the first place.

If you have 2 sticks or less, you can run whatever frequency you want
If you have 3 or more sticks, you are limited to 2400MHz

>>59151562
Wait so i could buy 2 sticks of 16g ram each and have them at like 3400mz!?? Just bought 4x 8g at 2400mz

>>59151136
more importantly what is that 6pin I see on GPU? Tell me this is short enough to be vega

>>59151617
Of course it's Vega. Why wouldn't they do teaser pictures to build hype for tomorrow's announcement?

>All these fanbois and shills

I am just going to buy whatever ends up being a good deal for price vs performance. Fuck brand loyalty. I do not owe Intel or AMD shit.

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>>59151592
>getting memed into bad purchasing decisions

Haha, retard. Even at a worst case scenario, this is something which would have been solved with a microcode update within a month or two. Enjoy your shit performance.

>>59151666

>I am just going to buy whatever ends up being a good deal for price vs performance.

Please leave the thread, that sort of logic is not allowed here.

>1700mhz
Nice try Pajeet.

>>59151738
you're just pretending to be retarded right?

>>59151592
Um... yes. Return it. Ryzen is dual channel. You want 2 16gb sticks not 4 8gb sticks.

>>59151765
You do realise that four sticks can run in dual channel, yes?

>that heatsink fan assembly

Is that factory? Looks mucho comfy

>>59151136
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8fQ15_6eNM

AMD bankrupt

>>59151765
having all four slots filled is much more aesthetically pleasing

>>59151776
2 of 8 and 4 of 4 will perform the same but going for the 2 of 8 option is be cheaper

>>59151685
Fallout 4 is really an edge case due to being as shittily programmed as your average Unity game.

But yes, memory speeds do matter, and will matter more in dual channel than quad channel. Just usually less than 1/4th as much as they matter in Fallout 4 and sometimes hardly at all.

>>59151763
Nope want to explain why its only half of the stated mhm?

>>59151700
>10¢ have been deposited in your Share Blue™ Account

>>59151786

yes it can you fucking retard

>>59151789
>clickbait title
>Dtrollz
I wouldn't watch that video if it included the secrets of immortality

>>59151797
DDR stands for "double data rate". DDR-2400 runs at 1400MHz.

>>59151797
look up what DDR is

>>59151786
two dual channel groups, bud

>>59151821
The secret of immortality is overclocking your CPU to the point it blue screens?

>>59151830
>M-maybe if I pretend I was pretending all along, they'll buy it!

>>59151396
Can someone explain why asus is focusing on Ryzen so much but won't release the high end Kaby Lake board, the IX Extreme?

>>59151790
Then get an mITX that has 2 slots.

>>59151136
Reminder: A handful of vendors will be releasing Ryzen branded RAM kits. They'll be 3200-3600mhz. Corsair, G.Skill, and of course Patriot are on board, though others may join in as well.

>>59151797
lmaoing at your life, faggot

>>59151892
cause Intelaviv licensing costs cut into their board profits heavily. They make more money selling a cheaper AM4 board.

>>59151136
One thing I don't get. Why do the Z270 boards have 2 M.2 slots, but Ryzen only has one?

>>59151853
i'm starting to think the people posting this video have no idea what overclocking actually is or even tried it themselves.

>>59151931
Do I have to buy those or can I use my current 3200MHz DDR4 G.skill memory?

>>59151960
There are a bunch of x370 AM4 boards with 2 m.2 slots.

>>59152038
Theres nothing special about them apart from the branding and specific AMP profiles. Your current kit is fine.
Shills have just been spreading FUD claiming Ryzen couldn't use decent high speed DDR4, and it couldn't be further from the truth.

>>59152038
Your current RAM is fine.

>>59151823
This is false advertising on AMD's part then.

>>59152158
That's how memory has been advertised ever since the very first ddr was released

>>59152158
>>59152133
You're literally retarded

>>59151830
What are you smoking? Every CPU since the invention of dual channel has been able to run four modules in dual channel. It's at least 99% certain that Ryzen won't lack that feature.

>>59152158
No. It's 2400M transfers per second, one for rising clock edge and one for falling clock edge. Has been like that for DDR ever since its invention around 20 years ago and has always been advertised like this.

>>59152712
It will be able to but not as well. It won't be 4x the bandwidth. For the best performance you're best off using 2 fast sticks.

>>59152158
It's effectively the same thing just with lower frequencies. It's technically false but in reality it's actually more descriptive than the true frequency would explain.

>>59152816
It will be the same bandwidth as a regular dual channel config.

>>59151786

Yes you can. I did this on at least 4 boards.

>>59152816

2 sticks are as fast as 4 sticks, dude.

>>59152816
You're retarded. There's literally no difference between using two or four sticks.

>>59152956
There is
Two sticks is cheaper than four sticks of the same capacity

>>59153021
Not always. Price goes up at a faster rate than density. 2x 16gb sticks will sometimes cost more than 4x 8gb sticks.

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>>59152158
Just to make this more clear there's this.

You're only looking at one edge of the clock signal which is how SDR memory worked. DDR looks at the rising and falling edges of the clock signal effectively doubling the frequency even though the clock signal remained the same.

>>59152816
>It won't be 4x the bandwidth.
No shit sherlock. It's dual channel, not quad channel. Nobody ever claimed anything else. There's literally no difference in bandwidth between 2x8 and 4x4 given the same frequency and latency RAM.

>>59151892
Autists on /g/ aren't the only ones sick of intel's bullshit. All the major manufacturers were excited to hop on board. Just look at what's already available at launch in the high end compared to AM3. AMD has probably never gotten this much attention.

>>59153560
84 socket AM4 mobos
1,000,000 Ryzen CPUs at launch
200 system builders
Retailers selling all their preorders within 4 hours of them being available

OEMs saw the performance of the samples AMD sent them, and they knew it would be a strong seller.

>>59151960

Too few PCIe lanes

>>59151136
>only dual channel
meh

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>>59153602
No.
There are plenty of boards with two M.2 slots.
The FCH+external chipset provide plenty of lanes.

I'm not a gaymer, I'm straight.

>>59151823
DDR RAM rated at 2400MHz would run at 1200MHz.
>>59152158
It's not false advertising on anyone's part, it's just idiots not knowing what it is. DDR works on both the rise and fall of the clock signal, so it effectively runs at double the actual clock speed.

>>59153158
Why doesn't main system RAM use QDR?

>>59153600
Yep. They won't be able to make these fast enough for workstations in engineering firms, Silicon Valley, and so on.

That's the only thing Intel has going for it, is that demand for these will be high enough for them to release their cheaper Coffeelake 6cores even if they don't compete on cost with the 1600X since they'll be able to make more of them.

That and delusional fanboys that think 4c/4t or 4c/8t will truly be enough in a few years. It's already hardly enough now.

>>59153620
Man, just look at those shitty chokes
And they had the balls to put an external clock generator on this thing?
What a darn shame

>>59153620
I'm wondering why the sli/cf slots are spaced like this on every AM4 board I checked. Why only 1 slot in the middle instead of optimal 2? That would still leave 1 slot free for a pci-e ssd or network card etc.

>>59151992
The speakers on my shitty iphone are on the brink of death so I couldn't hear what the guy was saying. Was he manually overclocking or was he just showing off XFR? If it BSOD'd from XFR going too far that pretty much kills my hype for the "auto overclocking."

>>59153725
really odd since it's the only 16 phase board for Ryzen currently

>>59153158
Do CPU's do this? If not, why not?

>>59153784
It will need all 16 just to POST

>>59153766
Most modern Intel boards that have SLI capability do the same. It gives cards room to breathe and allows you to use thicker than 2-slot coolers on your cards.

>>59153766
the justification is the same as intel: you want more than 2 2-slot cards on a board? buy the higher end chipset. AMD will likely have a workstation chipset when the server stuff launches

>>59151136
Intel can run 4266MHz DDR4.

Ryzen can't.

>>59151788
It's the Wraith Max, we don't really now what SKU's will have it but we do now that it's factory
It dissipates 140W and has muh RGB lights

>>59152158
This isn't even from AMD stupid retard, it's from JEDIC and every vendor that uses DDR anything has used it for years

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>>59153809
>>59153819
yeah but why not this? wouldn't gaymers like this setup more?

>>59153845
can you afford that ram, tho

>>59153896
Yes.

>>59153766
Because nearly everyone will be using a dual-slot GPU in the top slot, so it's not worth putting a slot directly underneath, because 99% of users will not be able to use it.
It's added cost to the manufacturer with almost zero benefit.

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>>59151136
>3400 RAM

for what purpose?

>>59153560
YUS
U
S

Fuck yeah its gonna be prime AMD 1999-2008 all over again

>>59153936
DRAM is the true LLC in Ryzen, so it loves high bandwidth.

>>59153620
Does anyone know if that light is blue only. I dont want to fuck up my aesthetics

>>59153881
Then the second card would block the last full PCIe slot, which is multiple lanes from the FCH

>>59154020
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X370%20Taichi/index.asp

Its RGB.

>>59154047
Thanks

>>59154022
Then put that in place of the 4x slot I moved? I doubt you will be putting anything over single slots in there. It doesn't break the purpose of the 2 slot "hole" either, since most single slot cards are fairly slim.

>>59152743
>transfers per second
no
go read Crucial's website

Show me a single AM4 board that's confirmed to have ECC/RDIMM support, I dare you.

>>59151136
>intelusional

apex kek

>>59154154
No-one knows yet. The server boards will of course have real support, but no-one knows if these x370 boards use ECC mode even though they "support" the ram.

>>59154154
I know the asrock taichi mobo has unbuffered ECC support

no idea about registered though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AVZ_x64hg4

>>59151136
ryzen don't have thunderbolt, industry standard on peryferial/addons like hardrive or lcd
Good luck enjoying new addons,

>>59154044
You have to remember that DC is like 95% Democrat, and there were violent riots going on a few blocks away.

Also, Trump is the first NEW president since digital streaming/internet TV became mainstream, and like 85% of the nation has a full on fucking computer in their pockets.

You don't need to go to these events anymore. You can watch them on your phone live.

>>59151580
What have you been smoking, I want some of that, must be some good shit

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>>59154253
>thunderbolt, industry standard

>>59154181
holy shit, based Japanese media.

>>59154253
>peryferial/addons like hardrive or lcd
you read like an Alibaba product description

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>>59154181

>>59153668
>That and delusional fanboys that think 4c/4t or 4c/8t will truly be enough in a few years. It's already hardly enough now.

Lets be 100% honest with this.

the people who have i7's i7e's and ryzen are a VERY tiny fraction of the people.

For most tasks, a core 2 duo is more then adequate, for gaming, you are hard pressed to find a game that requires a hex core or above to get 60, and its difficult to find games that are programed well that cant get 120fps off even a sandybridge cpu.

1 million octa cores, and lets say they sell 10 million in total before the 6 cores come, likely less of those sold either by supply or people were upsold and then the quads come with apus, those quads are where most people are going to settle, either pure ryzen quad, or rysen+gpu, and those quads will likely have a 4/8 4/4 and 2/4 variant.

Your point is this "truly be enough in a few years"

How long did dual cores last as a blanket 'this cpu can do everything'
Farcry 4 was the first game (in my very short search) that demanded 4 threads or it would not boot. Hell, look up pentium 4 gaming with modern games, as shit as the cpu is, and little headroom as it gives, it still able to play many modern games.

No developer, gaming or software, wants to write themselves out of customers, so they will make shit work on everything, what we will see going forward is a more of a focus on catering to higher end cpus now that 8 core, and even 6 cores aren't the price of entire computers, on their own, but shit will still run on 4 cores 4 threads, hell even 2/4 just god damn fine for a long time.

And just incase anyone wants to call me a shill, I'm getting a 1800x most likely once reviews come out. I'm slightly hesitant on the memory front, either amd didn't fuck the memory, and I will get slightly expensive shit from the get go, or they fucked it and ill get FAR cheaper memory to replace once ddr4 price goes back down.

>>59154484
You've only been alive for one president so it's not really much of an honor now is it?

>>59153845
>intel can shit in my mouth
>amd won't

>>59154509
when I was paying attention to politics, bush, clinton, bush, obama and now trump.

the only two I could consider better would be cartter which would put me 10 years older or fdr that would put me at the end of my life at best.

fucking sad state we have come to where trump is the most honest one we have had.

>>59154286
Not to mention, the VAST majority of his voters are middle class at best, its a 3-6 hour round trip at least to show up. on a friday at fucking 12

many of them are working or could not show up.

>>59151795
Its also a game that responds proportionally to read speed of the drive where most games stumble after 500mbps

>>59154590
>i love the meme about how trump voters "had jobs" when they weren't around for something where attendance mattered yet have nothing better to do than go to his shitty circlejerks

l m a o
m
a
o

>>59154449
7400, 7600k, and so on sales are definitely higher than 7700k but I think they're still both much higher than you think.

Steam HW survey:
4 cores: 47.9% (the highest of any configuration)
Intel CPU speed > 3ghz: 34.67%
AVX support: 73.89%
Windows 10: 48.49%

Sadly no threads breakdown.

>>59151136
>Ryzen 1800x runs at 5GHz with liquid nitrogen
>i7-7700K runs at a stable 5GHz with shitty AiO water coolers

>>59151765
>not getting 4 128gb sticks
kek

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>>59154643
>not getting a motherboard that supports 16 sticks of RAM
Pleb

>>59154640

cant run the 6950x at 5 without liquid nitrogen either

>>59154640
runs higher than 6900k

>>59154623
Yea, from steam

2 cpus 46.46% +0.54%
4 cpus 47.45% -0.44%

so right here you have potentially half the entire steam base is on i3's or pentiums, with some hold overs from core2 duo

then on the 4 cores, you have core2quad, i5, and i7, along with laptop i5 and i7 that can be fucking dual cores,

you also have this segment

6 cpus 1.42% -0.11%

which I want to believe is mostly 6 core amd chips as they were fairly common even in prebuilds, you also have amd dual cores, amd 3 cores, amd 4 cores...

Basicly what im saying is 4 cores and lower is literally to massive a market to write off, and if they are able to, they will still support a pentium 4 cpu.

Quality of life, 8 cores is the way to go
future proof, again, 8 cores, considering i bought a quad core when it was retarded to buy a quad core, I see 8 cores in much the same light. fuck, when I built my little brothers computer I had a 600$ budget amd made fucking sure I got him a quad core.
But a requirement? remember im talking about this comment
"truly be enough in a few years"
I am on a phenom II 955 be

If I had back panel access I would put on a better cooler and oc to 4~ghz, but I don't
If I had ddr3 I would be set, but I don't,
8 cores to me is more of a quality of life upgrade more then a necessity, and this computer is going on close to 8 years old.

to say quad cores wont be enough for years to come is just willfully not looking at history.

>>59154609
Its the only game so far that requires a fast storage drive, alot of those who complaint about the murky texture issue was running a conventional HDD.

Installing the game into a SSD basically eliminates the blurred streaming texture but at a cost of more dollar per GB storage.

Most of the "open world" titles are installed on my SSD.

>>59154619
his circle jerks happen in rural towns, where the travel time is less than 30 minutes
they also take place after first shift is out or durring first shift, not at fuckin 12pm where many people have to make a judgement call, will this be over and done before I can get to work?
and with how much the media just out and out lies about him, why would circumventing media and going straight to the people be a circle jerk?

>>59154756
So right there, you have the past.

Don't pretend there aren't games released with 4 cores as a minimum requirement.

And if they have 4 cores as a minimum requirement, they aren't going to run well with background applications also running on a 4core.

>>59154772
Thats not what I mean, I mean fallout is the only one to really benefit from nvme speed, also don't knock hdds, Have it on mine and have no issue with the streaming textures outside of early bugs where they just would never load in for some objects.

a defragmented archive speed drive is very fast, just not good seek time.

looking into either a 960 evo or a nvme intel, the evo costs around 300 for 500, but the intel is 300 for 1tb, and the intel also is faster then nearly any program could take advantage of... tough choice.

>>59153990
Nice cherry picking

>>59151786
Dude, then explain why motherboards for LGA115x have 4 slots for RAM?

>>59151765
>>59151776
4 sticks will work but it will lower the clock you will be able to run the RAM at.

>>59154890
>4 sticks will work but it will lower the clock you will be able to run the RAM at

Utter bullshit. I had 4x16GB sticks running on a Z170 board at 3333MHz via XMP without any issues last year. Equally, I had 4x4GB sticks running at 1666MHz with my old Phenom II X6 setup, combined with fairly tight timings.

As long as your CPU's IMC and motherboard aren't trash garbage, two or four makes zero different to anything whatsoever.

>>59154863
>I mean fallout is the only one to really benefit from nvme speed, also don't knock hdds
>the only one

Not really, most recent "open world" titles benefits from nvme. HDD is dated when it comes to seek and read, thats how it is. Plus with developers trying to constantly having streaming maps, texture, sound and geometry data causing bandwidth draw higher than before.

Why else you think HDD manufacturers try to cram in some nand to make them hybrid ? Random read is horrible in HDD. The only reason i use HDD is for the older games or games that actually loads a stage full of stuff into memory instead of seeking like a mad cunt like how consoles do with their blu-ray storage.

Other than that HDD is for permanent storage that i usually store once and not move often.

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>>59154890
>4 sticks will work but it will lower the clock you will be able to run the RAM at.

Hahah !
No.

>>59154953
>Utter bullshit. I had 4x16GB sticks running on a Z170 board at 3333MHz via XMP

Different platform and more of an exception.
4sticks have limited speed for example on 939 and for AM4, it is confirmed by motherboard makers, see here: http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/AB350%20Pro4/index.asp#Specification

>>59155020
I'm not a brand faggot, whenever something broke on live demo it makes you happy ? man, you must have a miserable life.
lol.

>>59155025
Yes, see above. Hype Ryzen responsibly if you ar a fan, faggot.

>>59155043
>4sticks have limited speed for example on 939

Thats because the bios back then was so dumb whenever you fill up the slots in dual channel it shits itself to the lowest possible bus speed, but once you get into bios and manually sets it to the rated ram speed it works without issue.

Eversince AM2 i barely notice any news regarding about this, heck even on my 939 builts i have never experience this myself except crashes from high HT/Ram OC which i have to reset the bios.

>>59154953
>>59155025
he's talking about the memory bug being reported where ryzen allegedly cannot use 4 sticks of RAM above 2400mhz without stability issues. The reports are saying using two sticks will allow the nominal clock speeds of 3000+ though. The problem will likely be corrected with BIOS updates. I wouldn't worry about it, if it really is a problem to begin with

>>59155130
Compatibility will be improved but I don't think the penalty for 4dimms will be completely removed. 4 dimms does in fact increase the strain and this probably has to do with the capability of the actual PHYs and motherboard traces.

So maybe the boards will support few frequency bins more but the peak performance will be with two DIMMs.

>>59155130
Also it is not a "bug", just limitation of the silicon. Anything above the advertised specs is overclocking, so not getting to OC from 2400 to 3000 doesn't mean there is a bug.

>>59155071
Well my bad, i thought you're speaking generally in AMD procs.

>>59155130
Just saw that.

inb4 ryzen shill

fuck no, i don't stand sides now and i'm perfectly happy with my i3 6100 itx next to my fx6300 built.

>>59151136
well it's not like it's something new


AMD has always been known for better oc-ing actually.

>>59154808
Yes and no.
You see here is the issue, no one is going to abandon 50% of the pc market willingly, and even when they abandon true dual cores, they don't abandon 4 thread dual cores.

There is literally not a single fucking chance in hell some game dev will slit their wrists and only support 8 threads, you need 8 threads to work or nothing, or better yet, 16 threads, because as many units as amd is shifting, a fraction are gaming and even then, a smaller fracting are going to be interested in the genre you make.

You will see optimization being done to push for 8/16 thread use, but that won't become the requirement till long after quad cores are just no longer sold.

and about background applications, same argument I make for why I want a 1800x, but lets look at reality, an i5 and an i7 push games well beyond what most people have for gpus, and even that pushes the game well beyond what their monitors can display. we go over to 4k and the cpu is again no longer the limiting factor.

Stop trying to make it sound like come march second, quad cores are going to feel like a pentium 2 and everything just drops support.

>>59151685
30% increase in fps from bottom to top
>meme'd into bad decisions
Solid reasoning

>>59151765
you are fucking retarded

>>59151562
>>59151592
high freq ram is just wank. It won't get you any more FPS, and nobody here is using ryzen in a way that would benefit from high freq ram.

>>59151592
Well if it is 2400MHz then the memory controller will likely handle it.

3400 MHz will likely be an exception and currently only highend motherboards like Crosshair are said to be able to run at that DDR4 speed.

>>59155187
>You see here is the issue, no one is going to abandon 50% of the pc market willingly
Reality doesn't line up with what you say.

GTAV came out in 2014 and had 4 cores as a minimum requirement.

It's one of the highest grossing games ever made.

>>59155012
Meh, so fe games stream textures and so few do it so bad that It's noticeable that I don't care on my hdd, I want a game ssd, but just with what I have installed, I would need 2tb.

Honestly, I'm considering a 1tb nvme from intel, 1300 read 700 write, and will be bottlenecked at almost all times by things other than its share read write, put the os on it, partition a new area for all the programs, and shit away from the os drive, then symbolically link them, that way if shit fucks up with the os, easy format, I want to add a new os, easy add partition and symbolically link what I need to to it too so it functions in much the same way as my current one.

this also allows me to store 5-20 often used/currently playing games on it and not care. but really a properly formatted hdd is more then enough for most games to load into and not deal with texture issues.

>>59153725
why are good chokes important?

what is the significance of using an external clock generator?

plz inform me

But the problems were always supposed to be with 4 sticks and not only 2.

Also this is the most expensive AM4 motherboard. How about testing it with a normal $80 board that most users buy?

>>59151136

>Running the RAM at it's intended frequency is considered overclocking for Ryzen

lmao

>>59155550
>he doesn't know that memory past 2133 is always overclocked

>>59155356
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrKChA3Iabg

there is your i3, you want to tell me how a dual core is playing that game?

or here, this ones minimum is 6 'core'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqNAo-2oous

the games are running, not fantastic, may not even be playable, that bf1 is fucking bad but they run.

there are VERY few games that demand a quad core and lock everyone who doesn't have one out, and looking at the steam charts above, 50%+ have 4 or more threads.

>>59154640
You can't run the 7700K at over 4.8 Ghz without delidding and destroying a few chips in the process

>>59156322
uwotm8?

>>59155382
External clock gen is useful for more precise OC.
In theory, you have more granular control over the CPU clock, as well as a more stable clock, as it doesn't have noise from the other system components.
In reality, it really doesn't matter that much unless you're on LN2.

>>59155606
if the game is unplayable, then I think that constitutes it not "running" since the point of the game is to play it, not benchmark a shitty pentium. What is it that you're trying to prove with the BF1 video that wasn't proven by the GTAV video? The only thing you did there was weaken your own argument.

>>59151617
I think it's a reference RX 480, they had six pins.

>>59151645
If it's any Vega then it's Vega 11, and would be the first image of Vega 11 ever then.

>>59156470
I didnt even look at the gta5 one, I was just looking at oh, a dual core 4 thread cpu boots it. playing at a fairly stable 30fps, god knows its playing worlds better than what my cpu plays it at.

my point with the bf1 was GAME DEVS ARE NOT GOING TO CUT THEMSELVES OUT OF A MARKET UNLESS THEY ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO

here, as I highly doubt I will find good benchmarks about it, we have to resort to passmark.

488
with a single thread score of
821

you are looking at one of the worst cpus that fan run a modern game right here, and it still fucking runs it. good? not so much. in 5 or so years time I honestly wouldn't be surprised if i7's struggle to hit 30, or have wildly varying frame rates

and you keep missing the point
"truly be enough in a few years"
Enough does not mean the best,
Enough does not mean going storng
Enough means shit works
Enough means you can put up with flaws

My pentium 2 was no longer enough for the codecs used when audio and video streams separated

my pentium 4 was no longer enough when 720p became a thing.

my phenom II 955 is no longer enough due to its ddr2 ram, not because of speed.

you want to talk about a quad core i5 or i7 from almost any generation beyond the first, fuck yes it will be enough for a good number of years to come.

will it be the premium must have, fuck no, it will "truly be enough in a few years" and even then some.

Hell, Im willing to make a bet, quad cores will die at 7nm. that is when quad cores will stop being a sku on desktops unless intel makes serious head way on single core, or if mad shit the bed and allow intel to stagnate consumer cpus again.

>>59151136
>$255 board
>issue is still on all cheaper boards

so fuck off ryZen is failure at launch

>>59155606
>the games are running, not fantastic, may not even be playable, that bf1 is fucking bad but they run.
holy fuck are you the stupid kind of autistic?

Minimum requirements isn't "this CPU has the minimum instruction x86-64 instruction support to literally run this game" it means the minimum to actually run playably because people will fucking bitch when their computer meets minimum requirements and it runs like that.

Jesus you wasted so much time getting a video and everything to make one of the most retarded posts I've seen this week. You're only beaten by people intentionally pretending to be retarded.

>>59156680
It's probably an RX580

>>59156683
i have no idea what the fuck you're on about, I was just pointing out that a P4 doesn't actually run BF1 just because it can load the game. I can put a drop of lemon juice and two grains of sugar into a cup of water, but that doesn't make it lemonade.

>>59156866
>>59156808
"truly be enough in a few years"

I accept you don't understand the meaning of enough, and think it means top of the like best ever built 10/10

>>59157331
>5 fps
>FUTURE OF GAMING
>SONY WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG
>TRULY ENOUGH STOCK UP ON PENTIUM 4S BOYS