does /g/ use bsd?

>>59142068
FORK OPENBSD IN RUST

>>59142068
I've wanted to run NetBSD on some older systems but there's nothing it really offers me that I don't already have on the operating systems they were made to run.

>>59142068
If OpenBSD would run on my laptop I would use it.

>>59142078
why not?

>>59142088
you can start it

>>59142113
why not just for fun?

>>59142068

for what purpose

>>59142123
Why OpenBSD and not FreeBSD?

>>59142148
Because the only thing about BSDs that appeals to me is the security focus of OpenBSD.

>>59142162
why?

>>59142206
Trying to justify subjective values is like trying to describe a color that no one else can see.

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>>59142068
pic related

>>59142162
ASLR failed, openssh shitted on the unix """philosophy""".

OpenBSD is full of shit like this.

Can anyone tell me what Theo thinks about Rust and Redox OS?

>>59142234
What OS do you prefer to run?

>>59142258
He is too old for the latest programming memes. Also who cares.

>2017
>Using any variant of BSD
For what fucking purpose

>>59142301
Because it's actually good?

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>>59142278
Microsoft Bob

>>59142068
i use os x

anyone try trueos, the successor to pcbsd?

FreeBSD Really seemed to of simplified updating and installing stuff with the ports package, but if you don't install the ports installer thing and look at their library of program ports installing stuff seems a bit confusing. I'm not sure if I should just install the thing and try to get a working internet connection to download things through that system, or stick programs on a USB stick and try to install them on the system without it even though it might not be compatible at all without running an emulator or something.
It's great there are so many unix distros but lots of them seem to be evolving so far away from one another and being incompatible losing a lot of the strength of being free or open without users becoming very technical.

>>59142068
I do not, because the impression I get is that it doesn't have much support since there's so few users. I want to try it, though, I'll try running a vm of it and mess around with it once I get the time.

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>>59142068
I use it in the form of Mac OS X, but other than that I don't.

I want to try a different BSD distro. Should I do FreeBSD? I tried GhostBSD and it wouldn't install, and since it's GUI only on the installer app I couldn't figure out what happened. What's the easiest way to make a FreeBSD bootable flash drive? Should I just dd the ISO image or what? I tried Unetbootin and the flash drive wouldn't boot.

>>59142367
OSX is not BSD

>>59142390
This will trigger the bsd autismo even if it's true.

>>59142390
It is though.

>>59142432
nuh-uh

>>59142484
XNU is based on the Mach kernel, so yes.

>>59142545
Windows NT is based on 16 bit DOS APIs, but its certainly not a DOS variant.

>>59142562
I don't feel like having a pissing competition.

Anyone wanna tell me how to make the FreeBSD bootable media?

>>59142621
I would of but I'm not sure I want to help hitler with his IT problems.
For some odd reason Freebsd doesn't like to work as a boot with USB's, the files get corrupted

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>>59142699
>Freebsd doesn't like to work as a boot with USB's, the files get corrupted

>>59142068
I do, not for home, ofc. It's a legacy at work, I will migrate it to CentOS soon.

>>59142704
I was having the same problem. There isn't a lot of resources for googling it.
I found the Iso's work just fine though if you make a boot disc instead of usb drive.

>>59142068
>>59142068
no, because it mostly is gay
pf is pretty good, Theo may be fun, and that's the extent to which I'm willing to be nice with BSD
ports are lame
ZFS is antiquated shit
jails are primitive

>>59142913
>implying old is bad

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>>59142068
Yes actually. I'm well versed in the use of OpenBSD and its utilities.

I really like pf. Very fun and interesting to play with.

I could also close-source it and sell it. The ultimate freedom. Pic related is Microsoft by comparison.

How do you find out what the differences are between various snapshot versions? for example:

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/arm/armv6/ISO-IMAGES/11.0/

FreeBSD-11.0-STABLE-arm-armv6-RPI-B-20161209-r309771.img.xz
FreeBSD-11.0-STABLE-arm-armv6-RPI-B-20170105-r311441.img.xz
FreeBSD-11.0-STABLE-arm-armv6-RPI-B-20170126-r312829.img.xz
FreeBSD-11.0-STABLE-arm-armv6-RPI-B-20170203-r313108.img.xz
FreeBSD-11.0-STABLE-arm-armv6-RPI-B-20170210-r313553.img.xz

where are the change logs?

> inb4 google it

from https://www.freebsd.org/snapshots/

> snapshots will be very similar to full releases, except that they might not include all the bits included in a full release
> They may include experimental or degraded features that can corrupt your existing system.

so where is the documentation?

>>59142925
ZFS is bad, yes

shit license (reminds me one thing about BSD: it's also true the licenses themselves generally are good)
arrays cannot be modified without starting over from scratch
no clustering

does it work? yes
is it shit? just as much

>>59142997
pretty sure you can use SVN and find the changes by inputting a release number

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Tech noob here. Wouldn't BSD be the smuggest of operating systems?

>Gentoofags compiling shit over everything
>archfags pissed that something broke on their custom build
>ubuntufags getting mad at Ubuntu-isms
>debianfags mad their OS is stable but boring

All the above victims to Linux-isms

Might just uninstall lubuntu on my spare laptop and attempt BSD for the hell of it. (Or is BSD crap)

if i want to download the latest version 11 of FreeBSD (not v12), with all the errata and all latest security bugs fixed, should i get STABLE or SNAPSHOT or ???

>>59143005
You don't have to use ZFS it is an optional thing with freebsd, you probably don't even have the kind of hardware you'd want to use it with anyway.

>>59143206
it's just one of those crappy things bsdimwits are so proud of
>you probably don't even have the kind of hardware you'd want to use it with anyway
yeah, right

on my servers, yes.

I'll be using it for my upcoming headless nfs nas

I use OpenBSD on my router/server.

>>59143248
wtf i hate zfs now

>>59142068
doesn't have the drivers for most my hardwares