will Ryzen actually be good, or is it just a meme

>>59135307
Put it this way, the only thing the Intel shills can find to bitch about is the fact that the R7 1700 is outperformed by the 7700K in single threaded tasks. (The R7 1700 being a lower power, higher core count, lower clock speed and often cheaper part).

>>59135344
fpbp

>>59135344
so is it worth it

>>59135422
yes

The RyZen is a meme. Don't fall for the amd marketing

>>59135422
As with anything, it depends on your use case. For me as somebody who does a lot of virtualization and intensive compilation, absolutely, but if you just browse the web it's overkill as only the "enthusiast" tier chips are out right now.

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>Buy Ryzen!
but the 7700k is a better performer for gaming at a similar price point—it's simply a better value
>w-well it's good for multithreaded things!
but I can get a two (2) 8-core Xeon E5-2670's from eBay with a good motherboard and 128GB RAM for less than $700 total
>REEEEEEEEEEEEE

kek

>>59135307
It's AMD, so odds are it's a meme.

>>59135344
Not only that but in Q2 AMD will release R5 which will come at the price of a "K" i5 (R5 1600X will be $260), but will have 2 more cores and EIGHT more threads than the i5.

>>59135607
Kek it destroys the 7700k at a much cheaper price

>>59135701
>hasn't seen all of the deals posted here today
keep up newfag

>>59135307
>is this true?
probably yes but wait for benchmarks

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>>59135695
>bulldozer all over again

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>>59135814
> DAMAGE CONTROL TO MAJOR TOM
If you are going to be this much of a shill at least post the rest of the picture

>>59135876
>the shitty meme version made by amd shills

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>>59135344

>>59136646
Source?

>>59136717
https://youtu.be/niVGhThMo5E
4:48

1800x beats 6900k

1700x beats 6800k

1700... no news..

the 7700k probably costs a whole lot more.

laymens view from reading the internet.

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>>59136842
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700X/3647vs3915
Nice try shill

>>59135608
Says the 15 year old who wasn't around when AMD was king

>>59135701
Homie go check micro center and get back to me.

Its pretty depressing that amd shills are hyping the shit out of this before offical benchmarks come out

>hurrr look at this leaked benchmark. Amd won durrr

Im keen to see amd back at it but this retarded shit has gotta stop boys.

>>59136842
Show me offical benchmarks.


Wai..

>muh gaymes
Why would anyone sane go for a 4 core processor that costs more than ~200 burgers?
8 High IPC cores at around 4ghz with better smt than intel's (((hyperthreading))) can only be great.
I'm not quite sure how anyone would ever defend 4 cores no matter how many niggahurtz they run on.
if you're going to be a 4core cuck do it like me with an i5.
t. 6600k user

>>59137115
Mid 30s actually. I used to be a big AMD fan years back, but when they started pushing the number of cores as the big draw I gave them up.

For multitasking it was great, but single core performance was shit. I switched to Intel about 6 years ago and havent looked back.

Been waiting for AMD to finally pull their heads out of their asses and start being a competitor to Intel.

>>59136842
the 7700k will cost the same or less than ANYTHING amd will have for years, and will destroy AMD in every benchmark besides static "MOAR COARS" benches.

I doubt Intel will even bother lowering prices or bumping the i5/i7s up to 6 cores.

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>>59136892
>2 benchmarks
>not yet released

shill calling someone out as shill
its almost like a shillception in here

>>59137218
..

>>59136892

yeah i didnt even know..

i thought 7700k > 6900k> 6800k

whats up with that?

...and the 7700k is cheaper also?


wtf.. is this even?

clock speed?

>>59135307
I loved my athlon XP. regreted not getting a phenom II.

I've been team intel for a while but am cautiously optimistic that ryzen may not suck. This is a WHOLE lot better than where AMD was 6 months ago and I think even intel enthusiasts are happy because there's actually some question again.

Also except for uncommon events, most of the gains in CPUs are incremental and intels increments have felt smaller lately so I think there's a sentiment that the turbulence will be good for an industry that was juuuuuust starting to stagnate a touch. I am still perfectly fine with my Haswell E3 but will consider ryzen.

>>59137377

>I switched to Intel about 6 years ago and havent looked back.

>Been waiting for AMD to finally pull their heads out of their asses and start being a competitor to Intel.

didn't take you long before you contradict yourself there

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>>59135607
>"Le single threaded is a bit better so Ryzen is BTFO haha"

>>59137377

95% of Kaby Lake IPC, and HUGE gains in multithreaded work that starts competing Intel's X99 $1,000 chips.

All while having 8 cores and 16 threads on a 95w TDP.

Compared to Intels 7700k 91w TDP and only 4 cores and 8 threads

It is EXTREMELY competitive.

I'm so scared Ryzen is going to come out and completely fail in real world usage against similarly priced Intel chips.

I don't care who you fanboy. Competition is good for consumers. Drives low prices and innovation in the market

>>59137591
>Intelfags are so scared that their high-performance processor is this BTFO by AMD.
The mental gymnastics they perform to avoid coming to this conclusion are fun to watch though

>>59137535
I think you mean "real life performance in video games and in most tasks other than transcoding video" anon

>>59137377
>I hated that they only added more cores
>so when they finally stop adding more cores, I say it's a meme

>>59137521
I did not contradict myself. But I guess that's what it looks like to someone with a 7th grade reading level.

>>59137637
>This 8 core doesn't beat my 4 core because video transcoding
Are you this delusional? You must be if you think your 4 core could actually beat a 1700 in "most tasks other than transcoding video". It will barely beat it in gaming performance, and that's only because devs are still using DX11.

>>59137644
AMD has become a meme, sadly. They hype their new stuff like crazy, when when it's actually in the hands of the consumers, it's discovered is mid-range, easier to afford, and not really competition to Intel or NVIDIA.

>>59137718
Listen, kiddo: The 7700k is within 5-10% of all of the MOAR COREZ chips. Face the facts: a fast 4/8 CPU with high clocks is far better in terms of value at this point in time, and will definitely perform better than a modestly clocked 8/16 chip. Just deal with it.

Screencap this post if you really want to feel retarded after the NDA expires.

>>59137591
Shill harder bro

>>59135608
It's jim keller. Not AMD

>>59137718
>only because devs are still using DX11
huh ? I thought DX12 was supposed to brings closer to the metal when it comes to the GPU not the cpu.

>>59137748
if this is your logic why not pick up rysen r3?
the per core performance is basically the same and it's half the price

>>59137693
Not him, but yeah you did.
If you have never looked back then you can never know if AMD has already pulled their heads out of their asses

>>59137748
Screencapped. It'll be fun to look back on this during all the Intel damage control. See you on the 2nd

>>59137718
>Being this upset over an unreleased processor.

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>>59137748
oh so that's why intel is in a panic and rushing a CPUs to market in the i7-7740K and i5-7640K with 112 TDP LMAO.... i5 even has hyperthreading

but i guess you know more then they do

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>>59137795
>Being this retarded
Actually it's both. Regardless, Vulkan and DX12 can't be fully taken advantage of unless devs stop supporting DX11.

Still here running a core 2 quad.
Im still trying to figure out to go AMD or intel for my new rig.

AMD is much cheaper while performing a little bit worse than intel so I will probably go for it.

>>59136830
Average 4 point spread. I see nothing wrong with this.

I'm on a FX 4300 and looking to upgrade, and even I am doubting AMD, I want a 1600 but hmmm

>>59135876
Enjoy your endless Skylake re-releases.

>>59137738
>and that is why Intel is adding more cores too

>>59135307
Still shit in games, rivals intel in everything else.

>>59137962
Meant to quote >>59136576

>>59137842
Have AMD pulled their head out of their asses then?

Because all I see from Intel is them slowly making their CPUs better. There's no real sense from them that AMD is still of competitor, only a cheaper alternative with lower performance.

>>59137991
>Still shit in games
Source? I'd wait until the 2nd before making blanket statements like that friend

>>59138005
>Intel's not worried, so AMD must not be good

>>59137991
Got proof there? And not fucking benchmarks.

>>59137766

Suck my dick faster I haven't filled your mouth with cum yet.

>>59137806
>the per core performance is basically the same and it's half the price
It's not even going to come out for months, you're just making shit up at this point. If that is true when it's out in a few months then I agree, but otherwise fuck off with your shilling / speculation.
>>59137872
>so delusional that he's anthropomorphizing a multi-billion-dollar corporation

f

>>59136830
>ignoring the min 20fps difference between ryzen and intel
good goy

>>59135307
You have to go back.

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>>59138067
Are you retarded? You do realise the R3 is just a R7 with some of the cores fused off due to defects? It's performance is easily deduced by looking at the performance of the R7.

I hope ryzen obliterates kaby lake so intel finally come out with something worthy to upgrade from sandy bridge

>>59139555
we have almost no meaningful benches yet you stupid fucking retard

what if i just want a chip that has integrated graphics
wouldn't intel's hd 630 graphics be the best choice?

>>59139555
And you know this how?

>>59140683
Integrated gpu in amd APUs is much better than the intel one

the amd gaming cpu isnt out yet. intels high core count cpu's run slower per core as well. 4 core amds will probably have higher clocks that will fit in the target tdp because they have more heat headroom. same as intel. the rival cpu for the 7700k is the 1400x which tops at 3.9ghz plus turbo whatever the fuck it's called and it costs $200.

>>59140683
Wait for the new APU's, considering there's a 65w 8-core/16-thread Ryzen at 3.4GHz, they will probably manage to make some great APU's at low wattage.

I imagine we will get something like a 47W 6-core/12-thread with graphics that will beat Iris Pro by far. AMD will grow in the laptop market, I can feel it!

>>59141049
sadly i already have an overclocked 5820k and can't take part in the fun of ryzen at the moment. i'll probably upgrade around the time intel gets their head out of their ass and gives me a 5ghz 8 core for $400.

>>59140969
>>59141127
Thanks for the tip.

I'd pay $400+ for a chip with decent integrated graphics if it meant not needing a graphics card.

My Dell Inspiron's NVIDIA GPU died years ago and I've been playing games on its onboard graphics [Intel Core i7-3630QM @ 2.40GHz - passmark: 7598]. I play mostly indie games like Avorion and Robocraft, and my CPU's graphics have been good enough that the graphics don't hinder or bother me.

The i7700 has a passmark score over 12000, so I figured upgrading to that (and its superior onboard graphics) + a PCI ssd would be a YUGE upgrade. But if what you guys say is true heck yeah I'll wait.

>>59141426
*forgot to mention that the reason I'd like to avoid a GPU is because I've had every GPU I've owned die on me. Figure no GPU = no failing parts, plus less noise and powerdraw. APU/Integrated graphics + SSD = crazy fast and quiet computer

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>>59135307
>trusting leddit
>2017
Just trust in INtel, goy.

>>59141444
Nah, you're just transferring heat to that CPU die then. If you don't need to run 3d applications (IE, Games) then get your hands on an inexpensive passively cooled GPU. It'll cost you 20 bucks at most and add no fan noise.

>>59141426

AMD APUs are going to be good this generation. They have a lot of expierence with them now, and have and better iGPUs than Intel for a while, but the CPU half wasnt great. With Zen cores and Vega iGPU, AMD APUs (codename Summit Ridge) will be real nice.

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>>59141552
Dropping the info bombs, thanks
>>59141534
Smart!

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>>59141426
>>59141444
That's fair but
>decent integrated graphics
This doesn't really exist. HD 630 from the i7700 you mentioned is good as far as integrated graphics goes, but still entry level as far as dedicated graphics goes. I'm not gonna want to invest in a cpu for its onboard graphics until they're at least comparable with dedicated gpus.

>>59141552
will summit ridge have a vega GPU though? Their APUs always seem to be one generation behind on the GPU side

whoa I just got it

Ryzen as in AMD has risen

>>59141684
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryzen#Available_APUs
Doesn't say. When's 2H 2017?

>>59137748
I guess that's why every new game is targeted at and optimized for an eight core AMD CPU, huh?

>>59141742
no

A...AM...A..AMD A S...SHIT! E..everyone knows it has n..nno potential....

Literally every company ramping up ready to support this CPU with their insider information, something they haven't done in a decade of AMD CPUs.

Yeah its all just AMD hype. riigghhtt

Independent reviewers have already received their Ryzens. Once the embargo lifts, we'll know for sure.

>>59141684

I would doubt it.

They're going to be Polaris based and DDR4 at first, then next year be Vega based with HBM.

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>>59137627
>I'm so scared Ryzen is going to come out and completely fail in real world usage against similarly priced Intel chips because I'm a faggot that uses only a single program at one time that's completely single threaded.

You post this in every thread you worryfag, stop.

>>59139555
R3's could as well be from a dedicated 4c line. It seems highly unlikely that they could meet the volume demands for a peasant tier processor with cut out 8c with the good yields they are getting

>>59135307
>is it as good as leddit says it will be
so this is why part of /g/ so butthurt about Ryzen, it's my sicritclub teenager logic behind this, nothing to do with actual facts

>>59142225
If we count my bet they made 1m chips in 1.5 months. That's very fast.

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I just want to upgrade already

>>59135718
>yeah look at this Microcenter only deal and only on pickup deals!
Fuck off kike shill

>>59142225
This would need a new die and thus new tooling, and Ryzen is already really cheap to make
It's more probable that we will get microcode disabled 8c, going back to the sweet era of unlockable cores
Or lazered off cores, but I doubt /ourceo/ Lisa Su would do that

>>59140683
The current Stoney Bridge APU's are competitive with Intel's despite being on 28nm, they're somewhat slower CPU wise but absolutely rape anything Intel (including the Iris Pro's with Crystalwell) in GPU performance

>>59143300
>new tooling
New tapeout

>>59135307
According to this board, every product is a meme. Regardless of whether it is properly good or not.

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>>59135307

https://www.techpowerup.com/231038/intel-plays-dirty-over-ryzen-attempts-to-manipulate-ryzen-reviews

>>59143401
>getting called out by TPU, a Nvidia/Intel shill site
just fucking wew

>NDA lifts in less than 24 hours

Fucking finally. Can't wait for this cycle of
>this bench shows its good
>this bench shows its shit
>just wait and see when official benches come out!

So we can finally move on to
>this bench that doesn't support my preference is by a paid shill!

>>59143508
Already revving up for the damage control of tomorrow my Intel shill?

>>59143421

Fucking this.

Sick of this industry.

>>59143527
I tried to make that generic enough to suite either camp.

I'm getting a Zen CPU regardless. The only thing I'm curious about is how well the 1700 can actually OC. I'll probably end up waiting for the lower core parts to release to see how they clock as well.

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>>59135307
a different year yet another is AmemeDe meme thread...
it is shit!

the only good thing about it is that stocks are going up, but since you are an amd poorfag you wouldn't care

>>59135307
Intel are literally on suicide watch

As they should be, one of the most evil companies in existence for their anti-competitive practices .

>>59143421
fucking hell, Intel should be burnt to the ground

>b-but I do video editing while playing video games
sure think Pajeet

>>59142536
funny thing is, if Intel suddenly drop their prices down to compete with Ryzen, everyone will know they were ripping them off all along

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>mfw I should have bought AMD stocks when it was less than $2

>>59143508
so, is it tomorrow or release day?

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>>59143721
If you have no competition you own the market. It's called a monopoly I think. AMD was letting us all down.

>>59135307
You can't say a component reliant product is the best when there is no components for it to rely on, right now.

>>59135607

>I can buy used for cheaper

Stop the fucking presses

>>59143721

It's a double edged knife for Intel.
You keep the prices as they are, and anyone with 2 bits of intelligence will go for Ryzen, same number of cores and performance for half the price is a no brainer after all.
You lower the prices, and from a marketing point of view you are acknowledging Ryzen as a competitor, which could bring even more attention towards it.

The more I look at it, the more I'm convinced Intel really got caught with their pants down this time, they weren't this much of a leapfrog from AMD (maybe stuck of the original "up to 40% IPC boost perhaps?"), and while not threatening to Intel in any way, might possibly catch on some less tech-savvy people, for realizing how high their products are priced.

>>59144330
>they weren't this much of a leapfrog from AMD (maybe stuck of the original "up to 40% IPC boost perhaps?")
Intel's current CEO is a literal retard who pretended that Zen didn't exist and was a failure, despite everything saying the contrary
The extra 12% they got over their original 40% is just the cherry on top of all this raping

>>59144131
Official launch/announcement was the 22nd. NDA on reviews lifts the 28th. Parts become available March 2nd.

I'm not sure precisely when NDA lifts but if it's at midnight /g/ will become an even bigger clusterfuck of zen threads than it has the past 2 weeks.

>>59141642
kek a a8-7600 igp walks HD 630

>>59144393
That's honestly one of the lesser examples of how retarded he is. Intel has been throwing money away on the dumbest fucking shit the past ~5-6 years. It's no wonder their "response" to zen is shitty overpriced versions of the 7700k with slightly higher base clocks on a shitty overpriced new X chipset not due till August.

I bet they're sweating bullets over the MCM chips. That's the real threat to intel. Consumer markets are peanuts compared to enterprise/server

>>59143401
>OY VEY

>>59137510
7700k is a 4c/8t, 6800 6c/12t, 6900 8c/16t

>>59144330
Intel has already started dropping prices. Not enough to level with the 1800 yet though.

I'd say Intel will drop their top tier CPUs prices a bit more, and disable overclocking limits on their mid tier range. Companies who bulk buy and do intense cost/ratio calculations will swarm to AMD CPUs, but Intel won't budge on their xeon line up due to inter-deparment warfare. Intel will deservedly lose a decent chunk of marketshare.

With a bit of luck zen+ and 7mn will come out at the same time, and put the competition up another notch.

We might see the end of the late 2010 moores law stagnation.

>>59136646
so AMD have better gameplay performance, nice.

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>>59136646

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>>59137637
>single thread
>video games

pick one. nothing is single threaded anymore.

>>59144943
Yes it is, don't you ever play in SuperPi?

Do we know anything about the integrated graphics yet?

>>59144998
What integrated graphics? Those come in the APUs somewhere around June, probably will be Vega based with 768 shaders.

>>59144943
>what are emulators

>>59145046
Yeah those games from 1996 sure take a lot of power huh

>>59135607
>>Buy Ryzen!
>but the 7700k is a better performer for gaming at a similar price point—it's simply a better value
>>w-well it's good for multithreaded things!
>but I can get a two (2) 8-core Xeon E5-2670's from eBay with a good motherboard and 128GB RAM for less than $700 total
>>REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>kek
Implying an E5 2670 has modern features like nvme

>>59145070
>what is pcsx2
>what is rpcs3

>>59145046
Yeah, 8 cores should demolish any 4 core in software rendering and newer emulators versions with hardware using DX12/Vulcan

>>59145094
oh shit 10 year old technology, really pushing the bleeding edge there.

>>59145099
>8 cores should demolish any 4 core in software rendering
Yeah like those fx 8 threaded cpus demolishing i5 in pcsx2.

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>>59135307
no pls by intel

>>59145137
>oh snap! Better bring out a 6 year old architecture with weak cores for an argument!

You'd be right if a Zen core was significantly weaker than a Skylake core, it isn't, there's a 3% difference depending on workload.

>>59145094
Shit that barely works

>>59145130
>confused pajeet has to post something

>>59145145
>skylake
>when kabylake exists

AMDfags Literally grasping at straws

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>>59145175

if you're a dumbfuck 15 year old gaymer retard from /v/ who likes spending way too much money on cpus that'll be obsolete far too soon and jacks off to the three extra frames you can theoretically get running a titan x you can't afford anyway in cherrypicked video game benchmarks that are poorly threaded, you'll be better off with an i5 or i7.

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>>59145258

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>>59145175
Is this some bad attempt at trolling? Can't tell.
I hope it's not serious.

>>59136830
>https://youtu.be/niVGhThMo5E
dat like/dislike ratio tho

>>59137890
i feel u bro
got this q9300+ clocked at 3.4ghz but even CS:GO caps my cpu at 80 fps
So far seems like 7700k seems more competitive than the 1700 for the price, but i might even go for a 1700x just for safety.

There's also plenty of dislikes with the other Gta5 video showing the 1700x outperforming a 7700k.

People are just mad they bought a 4 core months ago.

>>59145342
Meant for >>59145298

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fy87gUVisQ

>>59145348
Who the fuck is this guy? Why does he suposedly have a ryzen chip when nobody else does? He doesn't run a tech channel. He's nobody.

>>59145363
Plenty of people do, you think only reviewers get chips? Lol at least a few dozen are swiped from the assembly line.

>>59137362
trying too hard

>>59145348
>>59145363
they want to become memes

>>59144217
Aren't there laws on most of the developed world that force companies not to do that kind of shit?

>>59145474
There are, but Intel is practically government on all but paper so it doesn't count.

>>59145490
>government owned*

>>59145474
Yes there are.
It was a European court that got intel to pay out billions of dollars to AMD in damages.

If you have money you are above the law in america, so there are defacto no anti-trust laws in america mainly because the big companies rewrote the laws.

>>59145094
you'll get shit performance in a 100ghz CPU when using those emulators, since they don't properly run the kind of poorly documented architecture those systems had
It's like choosing between getting your car a V-8 engine or a V-12 when the thing doesn't even has wheels

http://valid.x86.fr/bench/rjmzdu/1
I'm so sorry Intel

So sorry.

>>59145502
>so there are defacto no anti-trust laws in america mainly because the big companies rewrote the laws.

Stop.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Antitrust_Act

>>59136646
Wow a higher clockedcpu does better in a single threadedgame

>>59136830
>No shot of the CPU or the new stock cooler that it comes with.
>Overclocks the i7 and not the Ryzen chip
>Benchmarks only GTA V, when in his channel he has Witcher 3 gameplay
FAKE AND SAGE

>>59145625
>phoneposter

kek

>>59145594
Wait what?

>>59145594
>(YOU) AMD Ryzen: ZD3406BAM88F4_38/34_Y
>(YOU)

what did he meant by that?

>>59145936
(You) === (You)


Mind=BLOWN

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>Some guy here claimed that Ryzen is going to be shit for gaming
lamoing my ass off

>>59145965
Anyone can make a random sheet like that.

>>59145965
Looks pretty good but i'm not insane to pay $500 for cpu and shitload of $ for mobo, i'm going to wait for 1600x, we will see if you will have to buy retarded $250-300 mobo just to oc it to more than 300mhz.

>>59146046
ching chong nip nong
http://bbs.pceva.com.cn/thread-137649-1-1.html

>>59145965
N-n-no delet this!

Just look at the gtav benchmark you fucking goys!

>>59145150
>doesn't know the ps came out 22 years ago

>>59135607
>I posted it again mom!

>>59145965
>platform power
nice

>>59146062
but that's the 1700x (399$) instead of the 1800x(499$).

>>59146046
it's from a chinknese review site

>>59135607
>but the 7700k is a better performer for gaming at a similar price point—it's simply a better value
Yes and DDR3 is a better performer compared to DDR4

>>59137872
Rushing to market? That is Kabylake-X, which is going to be released in August. Prior to Ryzen, it was also planned for August. Zen did nothing to change the release date.

>>59137889
Wait... you want DX12? Why? You do realize that means getting on Windows 10, right? The longer devs support either Vulcan or DX11, the happier I am. As the latter supports single-thread performance better, I still care more for the 7700k than Ryzen.

>>59146506
>latter supports single-thread performance better
>wanting to hold back technology
It's Vulkan or bust in the future

>>59146332
well it doesn't change a thing since i live in eu so it's still $500 ($475 while i7 7700k is $384-400)

>>59145625
>implying anyone enforces that anymore

but no go on about how much choice you have in internet or cable providers

>>59141507
Can someone please explain to me why leddit is right? So many people here are regurgitating what leddit is saying when we should be saying the opposite.

>>59136646
intel optimized game

>>59146539
>we should disagree with reddit because it's reddit

kill yourself you utter cancer

>>59146525
Euro here, you're full of shit

1700X is $450
7700k is $400

1700X beats 7700k in gaming
In multitasking it curbstomps that Intel trash

>>59146525
sucks to live in Yourop. i live in a third world country and i will import from the US.
I bought a 1700 + B350 for 448$ + about 15% or 20% in taxes at custom and import fees. Total should be around 550$

So, for a 1800x(499$) i would have ended up paying about 599$

>>59145070
What if you stream/record the games from 1996? Wouldn't that require more draw from that 1st core still?

>>59146601
OBS has 43 threads. plays.tv has 2 threads. I don't know why i have plays.tv installed but i guess i do.

And rpcs3 has 3 threads and it isn't even running anything.

>>59146593
kek

http://www.komputronik.pl/product/371591/amd-ryzen-7-1800x.html

1939 Polish Zlotys = $475

http://allegro.pl/procesor-intel-core-i7-7700k-4-2ghz-8mb-box-i6722330114.html

1565 Polish Zloty = $384

Here are other retailers http://www.ceneo.pl/49464145 One is even cheaper 1528zl and i could buy it for 1609zl in proline at my town.

So who is lying now fag?

>>59145594
>multi threads

>AMD Ryzen: ZD3406BAM88F4_38/34_Y
>19874

>Intel Core i7-6950X
>15695

This is rape.

>>59146657
wrong link because that site is so shit

http://www.komputronik.pl/product/371597/amd-ryzen-7-1700x.html

https://www.morele.net/procesor-amd-ryzen-7-1700x-3-4ghz-yd170xbcaewof-976367/

https://www.x-kom.pl/p/352315-procesor-ryzen-am4-amd-ryzen-7-1700x-34ghz.html

>>59146506
I don't care, my Windows 10 isn't even connected to the internet so I can run any botnet version of Windows I want, and 10 just happens to have newer shader model support along with a new graphic stack compared to 7

>>59146672
Well, even 2 cores extra can't help you when the competitor is clocked 1.5GHz higher

>>59146696
But
Muh IPC

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>tfw intel is calling reviewers and asking to screen their reviews before publishing

This is amazing. They crossed the line they can never uncross. Even if they come out with something better, nobody will be able to believe them because they tried to influence reviewers.

>>59143721
Are you saying everyone doesn't know? Come on dude.
Then again in a sense maybe they aren't, because I know Intel has piss poor yields.

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>Based on a report by HotHardware, Micro Center is offering the 3.60GHzsix-core Intel Core i7-6850K at $550 from its usual rate of $700. The 3.40GHz i7 6800K is available at $360 from $500. Users are still waiting for price drops on Amazon. The 4.0GHz i7-6700K dropped to $260 from $400, while the 3.50GHz quad-core i7-6600K moved down from $270 to $180. The i7-7700K was lowered from $380 to $299. It is currently available on NewEgg and Amazon at $349.

IT BEGINS

>>59146749
Why is this dumb jewery allowed?

>>59135307
>http://create.pro/blog/need-lots-cores-faster-cpu-clock-speed-cores-ghz-multi-threading-hyper-threading-explained/

Can someone red pill me on this? According to the article, even programs that rely on a single thread could do better on a CPU with more cores. Apparently it is sharing a core versus having a core to itself. So, shouldn't we want more cores? Why do games on single threads perform worse on multi cores with this logic?

>>59146785
That's just micro center, though

>>59146796
Background or side processes

>>59146785
>Microcenter
They frequently drop prices, too bad not everyone lives in the US east.

Will the AMD stock get a boost after the release? Thinking of putting down 5-10k and see what happens.

>>59146824
I know. As far as I can remember the i7 K variants have always been $299 for in-store pickup only at Microcenter. That has to be the biggest fake news story going right now.

>>59147297
>Wow price cuts on the 7700k better ge- Microcenter

Oh fuck you Intel

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Will an overclocked 1700 reach 1700x performance or not?

>>59147344
Stock 1700X performance? It'll easily go over it.

>>59146506
Yet the 7700k doesn't support windows 7 so your point is invalid. You could get a 6700k and rid it out until linux becomes viable, but thats never gonna happen

>>59147364
Is the difference between all of them just their clock speed?

Seems fishy

>>59147274
We're north of $14.50 right now.
I'm anxiously waiting for a large rally that will send it up to $20. If it reaches that point it'll be a full on bubble and it could likely rise to $30 or $40 before deflating.

Initial launch supply for Ryzen chips is one million units, and word is that all preorders are already taken. They'll have no problem selling that volume. Its an awful lot of revenue for chips that are $300 and up. Consumer sales for Ryzen CPUs and upcoming Raven Ridge APUs could easily top $2,000,000,000 in revenue for AMD this year. Zen based Opterons launch in Q2 as well, so do Vega based GPUs for the enterprise and consumer markets. Its trending towards being one of their strongest years ever, it could be the strongest to date.
Strong products, strong sales, thats what you need for investor confidence, and at least for the short term AMD has it in the bag. That type of thing is what leads to an extremely profitable boom and bust in the market. A year from now their stock might be level at $12~ per share, but they're going to have one hell of a roller coaster beforehand.
My AMD stock is basically my retirement right now.

>>59147395
>Is the difference between all of them just their clock speed?

>fishy
Intel has like ten 4 core CPUs with the only difference being clockspeed, just not unlocked.

Welcome to 40 years of silicon and counting.

>>59139602
This. I bought my 2600K at the start of 2011 expecting it to last me 4 years before I needed to upgrade.

>>59147395
>this standard practice of clock binning seems fishy
How new are you?

>>59147395
No, they're binned.

>>59147395
How long have you been away from the CPU market?

http://wccftech.com/intel-playing-dirty-undercut-amd-ryzen/

JEWTEL IN FULL DAMAGE CONTROL

>>59147485
Since the release of Phenom II x6 and i dont know what the fuck is going on

>>59135307
the NDA is lifted tomorrow i think so we'll have more information about it soon but so far i think ryzen is overhyped as shit by wishful-thinking /g/ shitkids and you're setting yourself up for disappointment.

>>59135344
you have to understand that you can't multi-thread everything. 1700 will be useful for video rendering and things like that, but for gaming and most other applications it will be better to have an overclocked 7700k.

>>59147554
>1700 will be useful for video rendering and things like that

So if i have a job its better to get a 1700

gotcha

>>59147395
it's a natural consequence of the manufacturing method. the chips will be of varying quality so some chips can run at a higher frequency and some chips will need to have cores disabled because not all of their cores are defect-free.

Who else #stillwaiting for long term testing and user reports as well as the lower clocking parts before committing to a specific SKU?

XFR seems like it can reveal silicon quality in its own right, meaning the more expensive chips are proven more capable than others in ways never before possible. The way I see it, it seems like AMD has solved the "silicon lottery" equation, at least on the production side. I'd like to see from real users just how well the 1700 can overclock. I'd also like to see how the 6 core and 4c/8t parts do in that regard. I'd also like to see if we get a Polaris like situation where consumers get the barely passable chips at first and don't see the golden samples till OEMs and enterprise get their fill.

>but they're binned-binned-binnings!
I swear /g/ has no idea what "binning" means. Provided AMD is salvaging anything and everything they can, there will no doubt be some dies with quality silicon on their functioning cores. Many factors go into what causes imperfect dies, and having one fault (non functioning or just imperfect cores) does not guarantee others (contamination of silicon causing high leakage and/or poor conduction).

Provided the 4 core parts aren't completely cucked, they'll become the de-facto mITX CPU of choice.

>>59147751
>non functioning cores?
Your right though, all dies are binned, then they take the allocation they need/want for the top skus which will often leave good dies for the lesser skus. This early on in production its likely they're not cutting much, but the chance of a 1700 being good silicon isn't that low. I expect the 1700 to shift a lot of units so there's going to be a lot of allocation for that sku.

>>59147554
NDA lift is March 2nd, actually.

>>59148025
No its not. March 2 is when the parts officially go on sale. The review embargo ends on the 28th.

Pretty much no reason not to buy zen at this point. unless you want to continue to get butt fuck by Intel forever