/hpg/ - Headphone General

>>59124441
HD600.

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>>59124441
Best budget headphones coming through.

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Fidelio X2 are objectively better than the HD600/650

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>>59124441
autosmo floaties coming through

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>>59124441
New thread, new posts.

Post aesthetically comfy headphones.

>>59124461
They're really not.

>>59124458
Linking my post for the anon that was modding his T50rp mkiii

>>59124455
is shit.

Finished that sentence for you.

>>59124461
Haha. You're funny.

>>59124498
>>59124472
Fidelio X2
>better comfort
>better build quality
>better cable
>won't snap

HD600/650
>muh sound signature

You sennheiser shills and your beliefs. Makes me laugh every single time

>>59124457
Are these headphones the new meme headphone?

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>>59124607
Well, they are the best budget headphones for under $100, anon.

>>59124607
Just the same 2-3 people that shill the fuck out of that headphone

>>59124607
They're indeed shilled often.
However, they're comfy, sound good, and are a good introduction to open headphones for plebs.

For the price, it's hard to find a better value.

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>tfw still forced to use my bose quiet comfort 35s because poverty parents saved up and thought i would like them

>>59124693
They're not terrible, and noise cancelling is cool

Why dont you giving me bunga bunga yes

>>59124704
Bunga bunga yes

Mmmmmmm yes bunga bunga is good yes yes yes

>>59124693
Could've been worse. You could have gotten Skullcandy/Beats/Turtle Beach shit.

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>>59124818
>>>/a/

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>>59124818
weeb fuck off please

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>>59124457
They comfy

What are a few upgrades from 668B's within $200 with a similar sound signature? I was kind of debating between K712/K7XX, DT880's, or DT990's.

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>>59124874
we welcome weebs on 4chan

>>59124918
990's are the closest to 668b's sound sig
K7XX second
880's if you want less low end and softer highs

X2's are also an option if you want more mids

>>59124945
I'm also looking for a portable IEM/headphone when commuting to/from school and for studying within $50. Looking at Headroom's measurements, PortaPros/KCS75's look very close to 668B's with less treble. I don't mind if they don't isolate or if they're not too comfy, I'll be wearing them for more than 3 hours.

>>59124905
Have your HM5s started to soften out a bit?

> Wear my K550s outside
> Become known as the "helmet guy" around campus
Remember to buy IEMs so you don't look like a dork.
I learned the hard way

>>59125182
I remember when that was first posted. I wouldn't give a shit about what people think because they're ego's up their ass. Rock out whatever headphones you want. I cringe seeing people around campus with over ear Beats.

>>59125200
>whatever headphones you want
>EXCEPT BEATS REEEEEEEEE

>>59125299
Well theyre ignorant garbage for ~$220

>>59125182
>Having random people around campus see you enough to give you a nickname
>Not going to a gigantic university where you can do whatever the shit you want because no one's going to recognize you
The M50 meme is strong where I go to.

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>Been using over-ear headphones my entire life
>friend recommend me a on-ear headphone
>immediate discomfort the moment I put it on
>friend says he has no problems
>turns out it's because of my glasses

Only took me 20 years to find out why I hate on-ear

Is Koss Porta pro worth it?

>>59125442
Depends on your use case and budget, but almost always they're not.

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>>59124441
Tyll here. You guys should really upgrade your cables

>>59125430
Glasses don't really make on-ears uncomfortable. They tend to be more uncomfortable than over ears just by design

the less your ear touches the pad the better.

>>59125442
Get a sportapro if you don't want to look like an ayy lmao and need it for on the go. Otherwise look at superlux/tascam/isk headphones which can be had for around the same price.

>>59125482
On-ears push the ears into the frames really hard
It gives me headaches in prolonged use
And the moment I take glasses off everything feels fine

>>59124607
since they've been reduced to 55 it's hard to find things that beat them

before that, they were just a sidegrade to the 558/598 if you wanted treble

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>>59125182
>Going outside will full size headphones at all

I have 598's on my head right, what do you have on your head

>>59125519
Beyer DT250-250

>>59124937
>so tsundere
I'll have to start saying this whenever someone complains about weebs or anime

>>59125299
because it's a fashion accessory that's hugely overpriced and is bought for nothing than that

it's the same as cringing when you see someone with an apple laptop

>>59125484
No

>>59125545
This. Beats are the headphone equivalent of Macbook hipsters who think paying a premium for device makes them of superior social status.

In other words people use Beats as a social accessory in the same way Applefags try to use Apple tech as fashion accessories.

Can't wait for the Hugo chord 2 to pair it with kse1500

>>59125564
Beats improve masively since Apple bought them, competive to senheiser even.

>>59125596
I don't disagree but it still not untrue. The original Beats Pro were decent sounding but overpriced by about 2x with questionable build quality.

>>59125519
HD600. Bliss.

>>59122990
Harman How to Listen

>>59125576
One has to wonder how do people end up with these kinds of setups.

>>59125807

Disposable income and curiosity or discerning tastes?

Is there some sort of tierlist of headphone manufacturers?

>>59125988
It's better to judge headphones on their individual merits than by the manufacturer.

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>tfw if I had the option I would chose speakers over headphones 9 times out of 10

I hope to one day own my own house with a good set of speakers where I can play music and not worry about bothering my neighbors.

Imagine just freely walking around listening to albums. One of these days, one of these days.

>>59124441
Time to buy new headphones, salary is in!

>Budget
200$
>Location
UK
>Source
RuiZu X02, Macbook Pro
>Type of headphone
On/over the ear
>Open or closed
Closed preferably, those gonna be office headphones
>Comfort level
One of most important factors. As much as I can. Gonna wear them for hours at time.
>Sound signature
V shaped or neutral
>Past headphones
KSC75, Etymotic HF5, Superlux 668B, VE Monks

>Budget
$150AU, maybe a little more

>Location
Australia

>Source
Xperia Z5 Compact

>Type
Either IEM or closed, not really fussy, but noise cancellation is important

>Comfort
Not too important, but they'll be used mostly in the gym so it'd be good if they're a secure fit. I find that most IEMS stay in regardless of how cheap/shitty they are if you use the right sized soft rubber bit

>Sound
Neutral or V shaped

>Past headphones
$2.50 shitty IEMS from kmart
Sennheiser CX685, muffled as shit

Also if they're full sized it'd be good if the pads are removable and washable

Thanks dudes

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Really dumb question that I know is going to piss off some audiophiles out there, but if I were to invest in a good pair of headphones and a mixer, can I achieve that meme 7.1 virtual sound you would hear in a gayming headset?

I'm not using these for gaming, but I'm so used to hearing everything 7.1 virtual sound enabled, that I think not having that feature would bother me. I've had my piece of shit headset since I was in highschool and I want it to die already.

>>59126171
No one willingly prefers headphones over speakers.

Just bought HD598SE. This thing doesnt need an amp, right?

>>59126536
I do since I don't want my neighbours to hear when I play eroges or watch porn.

>>59126507
You can do it with software. I think Razer offers one. Probably some others do as well. Most software based ones have latency issues in my experience, but I havent tested too much. Could be ones that dont. You can also purchase an internal soundcard which offers virtual surround.

Though if it is a digital mixer [as in it uses USB to connect to your PC], you cant use the soundcard based one. Only software. If it is an analogue mixer, then you can use the soundcard.

>>59126624
Correct.

Is it true that the HD600s sound better than the 650s? The 650s are sitting on my head and I can't imagine it getting much better than this

>>59126867
Depends on preference. I like 600's more, some don't. 600's have more forward highs, and less midbass. Overall I feel a more neutral sound sig, though not as smooth as the 650's.

>>59126636
>neighbours
Hence why I said willingly. Wouldn't you want to blast your porn games as loud as you want if you had no one else around you for a mile?

>>59126899
Hmm okay, I'm terrified of highs. The 650s are the only set of cans that haven't caused me to cringe during songs

>>59126919
Then you may not like 600's as much. Though the difference is quite small.

>>59126928
Thanks, I wish Audio-Stores were more common here, from what I've seen it's a 6 hour flight to the closest store that lets you go in and demo headphones.

Right now at least it's just ordering headphones after reading as many reviews as possible and hoping for the best

>>59126981
How the hell is it a 6 hour flight? I takes less than that get across the entirety of Australia by plane.

Are you like in an abandoned part of Russia or something?

>>59127006
Half way across Australia over to NZ...

>>59126636
I'm fairly sure he's talking about a scenario where your house is miles away from anyone else

Guys, I'm eying AKG k550 MK II very hard at the moment. Is this a good purchase? Seems to have really good reviews, is affordable and very easy to drive.
Home use, but I don't mind closed, My current phones are closed anyway and I have speakers for when I get tired of headphones.
Also how is comfort?
Would appreciate any input from people who own/owned/tried those cans.

>>59125473
Haven't seen the Tyll meme in a while.

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my new portable setup, haven't done a whole lot of listening yet but i'm liking it so far.

>>59128939
> tfw my x3ii has a dent in one corner
I was so fucking tired I just collapsed on my bed, and when I got cold and reached for my blanket and pulled it the player flew across the room.
Still works fine, but that chip/dent triggers my autism

>>59128180
>K550
I would never recommend this to anyone, no matter what their taste is. It's "meant" to have strong bass and treble, but it doesn't do that in practice.
The headphone is poorly designed, both in the earpads and leak susceptibility. There is a large variation in the low end response between listeners, or even the same listener.

>how is comfort?
Comfort is okay, the headphone frame is fairly large, suited to my large head. Pads are not form fitting, compounding sound issues.

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Anyone ever taken apart their HD6x0's? I'm too pussy to take out the driver but when I changed my ear pads, I noticed a really weird metal mesh in front of the ear cups (indicated in pic related). What does that alien-looking mesh do? I don't think it's connected electrically to anything (or maybe it is?!?).

Why the fuck does it look so weird?

Should I crossfeed?

>>59129889
the fuck mesh are you talking about?

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>>59130425
sorry, uploaded unmodified pic.

>>59130491
Oh, that's the backing paper. Almost all headphones have it. Its used for tuning the sound.

>>59130509
it's metal though. I've looked at it closely. it's like tiny wires or something... I think it's aluminum.

>>59130547
Pretty sure its cotton.

Why does this bother you so much?

>>59130610
he thinks it's an alien device to brainwash him

muh warm sound

>>59129889
>Anyone ever taken apart their HD6x0's?
Because you asked, I just did it right now. I also put it back together and did it again.
Other than the springs, the design makes it really, really easy to do it without any tools.

>What does that alien-looking mesh do?
Airflow restriction. Slight damping effect as well.
>it's like tiny wires
They switched from a silky material to the mesh. Same purpose.

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can anyone tell me what the deal with the green bar and the grey bar is?
is it something to do with peaking?

i have three different volume pools, (media player, windows itself and the usb audio device) which all have an effect on the green bar

i'm very curious to what it means

>>59130812
Peak meter. Not sure why there are two different colours though.

>>59130812
green is audible volume
grey is volume at 100% on that specific slider

>>59130812
>wintoddler
install a real OS, kid.

>>59130711
>Other than the springs, the design makes it really, really easy to do it without any tools.
Yeah, but I don't wanna fuck it up. Don't wanna deal with customer service and wait for a month before thye fix it... fi I fuck up.

>They switched from a silky material to the mesh. Same purpose.
interesting. I wonder how they arrived at that mesh design...

>>59131056
this wasn't a funny post at all

>>59129537
Thank you, that's interesting. I see very mixed opinions about those, some praise them as best thing to ever happen at this price, some call it chink garbage with no bass.
What about AKG k702? Very similar price point and open. Would get fiio e10k to drive them. Seems pretty decent to me.
By the way I'm aware that k7xx is on massdrop sale right now, however since I'm in EU k7xx is garbage deal for me, would have to pay crapload in customs and shipping.

>>59129537
Not anon, but how are the mids?

>>59126409
>Closed preferably, those gonna be office headphones
HD380Pro, HD598cs.

>>59126507
> 7.1 gamer sets
They have 2 speakers. All the magic is software, be it in the computer in the builtin usb soundcard.

>>59126624
Correct. It benefits a lot from having one, however, but _any_ amp will work.

Try it on your phone (they tend to have builtin amp) if it sucks in your computer.

If the phone is better, well, grab a schiit fulla2.

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>>59131935
>Razer

:^)

>>59132007
Lol, I have to give it to them.

The scam is elaborate.

>>59132007
Jesus fucking christ why does this exist

Thoughts on the RHA MA750?

>>59132113
for the memes

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>>59132007
I really hope this has a detachable cable.

>>59124693
qc35 are really good headphones, they are not the worst sounding things for their price point and their noise cancellation is still light years better than all others

stop being a spoiled cunt, kys

>>59132560
Maybe the headphones aren't up to his taste, anon.

http://uk.rtings.com/headphones/graph#342/323

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>>59132113
>Jesus fucking christ why does this exist
Because it's easier to jam a bunch of shitty speakers into a headset than it is to make a really one good speaker. In fact, that's what's stopping most companies from making good phones.

When you have so many speakers, distortions and interference just make a huge mess out of things.... but they can make them sound REALLY LOUD out of a regular phone/PC audio jack so that's what some retards fall for.

There's actually a chink company that makes headphones out of 12 speakers (6 in each earcup.. pic related) and it's the worst sounding thing I've ever tried. I'm not even kidding... your average $5 earbud phones sounded better.

>>59132143
>Thoughts on the RHA MA750?
Way too expensive for what they sound like. They reminded me of Pistons Hybrids.... for 10x the price. You're paying for metal enclosure manufacturing and styling.

IEMs are generally a huge waste of money. Headphones will almost always give you a much better sound at the same price point. About the only expensive IEMs I can recommend are Etymotic's phones and Yamaha's inner ear EPH 100SL phones. They actually sound good. Everything else is simply not worth the money and sounds like shit.

>>59132515
That looks retarded.

>>59124693
you're suppose to be 18 to use this site. you're violating site's rules, kid.

>>59132560
Let's compare with my HD600.

http://uk.rtings.com/headphones/graph#325/323/342

OK, no.

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>>59124457
>>59124617
You really need to stop shilling that fucking garbage. You're just trying to sucker in a bunch of other poorfags so they too suffer in a shit sound. Just because you bought garbage doesn't mean others should suffer for it as well. I'll be flagging your shilling in the future.

>>59132724
I am always interested in finding better sub-$100 headphones, anon. I'd be glad if you could name me any.

>>59126867
HD650 was created because the 'engineer' at Sennheiser thought the HD600 was too bright.

It's a superb headphone.

>>59132724
That's really good, Rtings fell for the bass compensation meme.

>>59124693
QC35 is good you ungrateful kid.

>>59132770
Suggest a better reference than HD600, or just excuse yourself out.

>>59132706
>Comparing closed headphones meant for isolation to open headphones

Can you stop shilling those fucking headphones, please? That would be appreciated,

HD600 shills really need to stop.

>>59132849
Just the same anon shilling his HD 600s and Fulla 2.

>>59132861
Schiit actually has organized shilling campaigns on audio enthusiast communities.

>>59132895
You think they'd stoop so low to shill on a Mongolian painting forum?

>>59132987
It's kinda like a call center. You're already paying Rajeesh an hourly wage for x hours per week and there only so many posts you can make on head-fi and reddit before it becomes obvious you're shilling.
It's then when they look for smaller communities to shill on.

>>59132724
>Calls garbage
>Posts graph which looks better than many other options in the price range.

You meme'd yourself anon.

>>59132822
>Suggest a better reference than HD600, or just excuse yourself out.
ER4SR.

GTFO HD600 shill.

>>59133164
>ER4SR
lol iems.

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>>59132822
Ummm, HE500s?

>>59132822
Fidelio X2, AKG K7XX, Monoprice M560/1060

You're excused. BTW they are all cheaper than your snapheiser.

>>59133199
>HD600
lol headphones.
>>59133238
>>59133245
Colored shit.

HD600 is a meme but it's better than all those garbage.

>>59133265
Whatever you say schlomo.

le neutral is good meme

>>59133265(You)

:^)

>>59124461
Describe the sound of the dt880, 770, 990, X2 and other headphones around this price. Trying to debt what to get. I will run them from a fiio e10k

My 0.02c

>>59133337
>DT880
recessed upper midrange, boosted treble, flat bass. Medium soundstage.
>DT770
boosted sub-bass, recessed upper midrange, boosted treble. Small soundstage.
>DT990
boosted upper bass, recessed upper midrange, boosted treble. Medium soundstage.
>X2
boosted upper bass, upper midrange is not as recessed as beyers but not flat either, treble is boosted but not as much as beyers. Medium soundstage.
>HD600
slight sub-bass rolloff, flat mids, slight treble dip, the most neutral in its price bracket. Small soundstage
>HD650
HD600 but with less treble/upper mids, sometimes it's perceived as HD600 with more bass. Small soundstage.
>K701/K702
spiky treble and upper midrange, bass is hit or miss as it's seal dependant, has a weird 'analytical' sound. Large soundstage.
>K712/K7XX
Fixed bass issues on older K701/K702 but it has A LOT more bass and lower midrange, somewhat veiled sound which masks the uneven treble response. Large soundstage.

>>59133474
Thanks

>>59133474
Judging from this I think I'll go with the dt880

>>59124693
literally listening to them right now and they're fine. viper4android helps a lot if you're so worried too. plus they're ungodly comfortable.

>>59125515
>hehe u look so silly XDd

grow up dude

>>59133810
Get the premium edition (250 ohm) if you're on a E10K, the Pro is not comfy.

>>59125519
668B's. I think the velour pads I put on a couple months ago broke in and get the perfect seal everytime because I hearing more bass than usual.

>>59126507
https://en-us.sennheiser.com/gaming-amplifiers-accessories

>>59131317
If you're looking at K7XX, K712's should be 200 Pounds/Euros. K702's are lighter in bass and more on the brighter side. If you want a more neutral phone, check K612's.

Is it a meme that I need more than E10k to drive 250 ohm Beyers?

>>59133810
I'd suggest HD598se against the DT880.

Look up a bunch of reviews comparing them.

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>>59134528
>veilheisers

>>59134528
DT880 are colored, which you might prefer. HD598 are quite neutral, just a little bright.

HD598 is known to be more comfortable.

>Budget
~$200 (flexible)
>Location
USA
>Source
X220 (not against buying something to help)
>Type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
Whichever has better quality.
>Comfort level
Comfy please
>Sound signature
even? listening to classical and some EDM
>Past headphones
don't remember any.

>>59134750
x2

>>59134750
>Whichever has better quality.
Open. Closed = compromise for isolation.

>even? listening to classical and some EDM
Neutral.

>Comfy please
Yes can do.

>~$200 (flexible)
$150 HD598se (good, slightly bright, very comfortable, removable cable from left side)
$288 HD600 (very good, very neutral, slightly less comfortable, removable cable from both sides)

$0 x220 (will work and be pretty good already (hd598se) or quiet due to low sensitivity but otherwise fine (hd600). An amp makes things better for both)
$76 Fiio e10k dac+amp (chink but good enough)
$99 Schiit Fulla2 dac+amp (made in USA, much better, but would the same for those two cans.)

>>59134750
SHP9500.

The other option is HD558 but those need an amp. IMHO, the SHP9500 bests the HD558 because it's more compatible on a variety of sources.

>>59134871
He said even, anon.

>>59134885
>Recommending $300 HD 600s which almost always require an AMP

Also, +1 for the HD598s. The 599s are out, but I don't know how they compare to the 598s.

>>59134995
The HD599 have the little issue of costing almost as much as HD600. That's absolute nonsensical pricing.

Haven't seen many reviews of HD599 but I'm not surprised, considering the pricing issue. Not even enough reviews to see, ignoring the price, if it's a worthy upgrade over HD598 or not.

>>59133810
Make sure to go with the DT880 premium special edition as it tends to be cheaper than the normal 250 ohm one.

Though if you want the 600 ohm one then you'll need a decent amp. No special edition of these either.

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Post garbage headphones.

I'll start.

>>59135338
X2

>>59135338
dt 880 600

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>>59124470
Bump.

Post aesthetically comfy headphones.

I'll start.

>>59135338
Your favorite headphones.

>>59135338
>I'll start.
Please do.

>>59131317
>I see very mixed opinions
If they're not even getting nearly the same sound (spread of up to 15-20 dB in the bass), what kind of impressions would you expect from that?
>K702
Headphone has notable peaks around 2-2.5 kHz and 6-7 kHz. A large drop in the high frequency response between those peaks, it can sound dull and distant. You can call that "soundstage" if you like.
Some low end rolloff. I tend make a small, but very broad cut around 150-200 Hz via EQ on the K702 as well.

>>59131866
Doesn't seem to suffer from the standard low mid suckout of closed back headphones. The fit can affect this a bit, unfortunately.
Upper midrange is a bit recessed, followed by peaks in treble.

>>59134115
>premium edition
"Edition"
Not "premium", but everyone calls it that anyway.

>>59134115
Yeah

>>59135256
The black ones right?

>>59135742
Yeah. Plus you get all those extras (free headphone case and an amp)

>>59135784
Noice

>>59135799
Yeah just got to make sure you get it from here. To get all those extras for free.

https://www.amazon.com/BeyerDynamic-Headphone-Amplifier-Professional-Straight/dp/B01NCILS2B/

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FUCK

I fucking spilled beer on my HD800's while they were plugged in and on. I dried them up as fast as I could and hairdryered them, it's been like half an hour and they still sound the same. Am I fine or not? Is there a way to check if they are toast or not?

>>59136218
If it sounds good then something is wrong.

Maybe beer reinforced transducers is the secret to taming the highs.

>>59124818
Buying AKG K701 right now

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How do we stop this spam/shilling? I can't be the only one who's noticed this... even the wording's the same.

>>59136318
Easy. Shill more to out-shill the shill.

:^)

>>59136218
RIP HD800

Really need to open them up to clean them.

>>59136318
What's the matter, anon? All I see are friendly reminders.

>>59136430
You need to quit spamming.

>>59136515
You're right, anon. I'll use a different image next time.

>>59136218
>if they are toast
These aren't complicated devices. What reason do you think otherwise?
If it is dried out and no resides are left behind, it's fine.

>>59134885
>>59131949
>>59134528
You will never stop being an idiot, will you?

>>59136318
I don't mind shilling for the SHP9500 as it's 50 bucks on newegg right now and its build quality is fantastic compared to most of the chink alternatives at that price range. ISK 2010/2011 and Superlux stuff come to mind as alternatives.

I do however mind when the shills spam the HD600/650 as the second coming when you can get objectively better headphones for 100 dollars cheaper. Though the HD6XX on massdrop for 200 dollars was an amazing deal. Really wish they would release another drop.

>>59136541
>I do however mind when the shills spam the HD600/650 as the second coming when you can get objectively better headphones for 100 dollars cheaper.
What can I get that's better than the HD600?

>>59136541
>Though the HD6XX on massdrop for 200 dollars was an amazing deal. Really wish they would release another drop.
That was a marketing deal. Massdrop subsidized that deal in an effort to gain more subscribers. It was a classic bait campaign. It probably won't happen again because it diminished Senn brand.

>>59136608
>What can I get that's better than the HD600?
You have to go in $700 range to beat HD600. $100 less like that anon suggests in juts delusional nonsense.

>>59136636
Kek. It's this shill again.

Please go back to Head-Fi and r/Headphones, Sennshill.

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>>59136668
>buttmad poorfag is buttmad
kys pajeet

>~75$ (up to 100$ If needed)
>US
>Closed(most likely in public)
>iPhone
>on ear or over doesn't matter
>No specific sound signature
>Very comfy
>No past headphones, only earbuds
I was considering Sennheiser Urbanite, because they are portable and look decent while fitting what im looking for. But they are on the higher price range than what I want. What do you guys think?

>>59136721
>You have to go in $700 range to beat HD600

Please go, Rajeesh

>>59136608
X2, Monoprice m560, AKG K7XX, DT880

All around 100 bucks less

Though if you enjoy the sound signature of the HD600 then stick with them. Those above I mentioned all have just as good if not better in some areas and compete with your precious HD600/650.

>>59136752
>X2, Monoprice m560, AKG K7XX, DT880
None of these come close to the fidelity of the HD600. They are not objectively better like you claimed in your original post.

>>59136752
>X2, Monoprice m560, AKG K7XX, DT880
you're fucking retarded if you think any of the above even come close to HD600.

instead of shitposting, get a fucking job so you can buy real headphones and then you'll be able to test them on your own ears. just spreading bullshit and lies won't improve your depressing situation. it will only lead to more mental illness.

>>59136218
>HD800
Get a headphone stand, STAT.

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>>59136636
Not $100 cheaper, but HE400S'.

>>59136884
>Stop spreading bullshit
>You have to go in $00 range to beat HD600

I asked you to go Rajeesh. Don't make me say it again.

>>59136934
I do. I was trying to be funny and making an obnoxious beer can opening sound into my mic and it exploded onto my headphones.

>>59136748
Counterexample or fuck off.

>>59136950
In hindsight, that wasn't such a good idea.

>>59136963
See
>>59136946

Stop shilling, Rajeesh. You couldn't even provide >>59132746 better headphones for the price when you accused anon of shilling.

>>59136946
>Not $100 cheaper, but HE400S'.
HAHAHAHAHAAHAH... fucking planar magnetic garbage... HAHAHAHHAHA

please stop. I'm laughing so hard, my lungs will burst.

seriously, take my advice and just get a job so you can actually test the cans before you talk about them. you're obviously fucking clueless. and I mean, TOTALLY CLUELESS.

>>59137026
>Not an argument

Come one, anon.

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>>59136865
>>59136884
>>59137026


>Shillheisers the post

Please show me what sounds better than "real" headphones like the HD600/HD650 in the 700 dollar range.

>>59137057
nigger, there's no argument needed when some shithead compares dynamic drivers with planar ones. you're so fucking clueless, there's no point in arguing and just plain mocking and laughing at your face is enough. you don't even understand differences among different driver technologies and what their strengths/weaknesses are.

>>59137120
Please explain. What makes dynamic drivers better than planar magnetic ones?

Laughing alone BTFO someone, anon.

>>59137144
just google it dude. it's not fucking hard. there's literally dozens of headphone 101 articles explaining the differences.

>>59137159
>Search it up yourself, NERD

:^)

>>59136884
>>59136865
Is this the same HD600 shill that keeps shitposting these in every thread?

>>59137096
Lol @ moron that stretched his cans with some stupid internet guide.

>>59136739
Reminder bump, I need your guys apparent expertise
:>)

>>59137184
Kek. Don't forget his Fulla 2s.

>>59132746
sennheiser hd 280 pros

>>59137211
Budget's a bit.

Maybe some koss portapros?

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>>59137241
No thanks.

>>59137228
I like how he thinks the Fulla 2 is any better than the E10k.

He loves to call the e10k chink shit.

>>59137284
>>59134885
>This recommendation

What do youthink of the urbanite? The koss portapros look a lil goofy desu, but are they better?
>>59137257

>>59136739
Somic MM185 are great from what I hear. Z reviews did a review on the Status Audio CB-1 which are a rebranded more expensive version.

Though the urbanite look much more portable and much better to look at.

Sony MDR10R are also great portable headphones that are attractive to look at. They're comfortable as well.

>>59136256
I wish the semblance would die down, but beer isn't the way to cure it.
>>59136427
How would you even?
>>59136532
Ok.
>>59136979
True, but being drunk many things seem like a good idea at the time

>>59137273
That's actually pretty neutral for what they cost. That dip on the treble though...

Love my HD380 Pro, but more expensive -_-

>>59137389
no the porta pros are a meme, don't look like an ayy lmao walking around in public.

They do sound decent though.

>>59137424
Not saying they are bad, just not to my taste. They are also a bit above $100 here in Canada; a little bit more and HD 598 Cs' would compete.

>>59137389
Listen to
>>59137460

As for Urbanites, I hear they are bassy as fuck.

Been using Sennheiser HD 558's for a little over 2 years now and fancy some new headphones. I'm looking at possibly picking up a pair of Beyerdynamic DT 990's (250 ohm). If I'm hooking them up to a FiiO E10K, will that be sufficient enough to drive them to an acceptable degree?

>>59137526
Yes. It will drive them fine.

>>59137614

Neato. Thanks.

>>59137526
>I'm looking at possibly picking up a pair of Beyerdynamic DT 990's (250 ohm).
Hope you have a good EQ handy. Also, get the 600ohm version.

>>59137524
Yeah, I saw that in a review they're aiming for the "beats" crowd
>>59137415
Somic and Cb-1 seem nice and are a better fit for my price range. I'll consider them, thanks!

>>59137460
>no the porta pros are a meme, don't look like an ayy lmao walking around in public.

Insecure much?

>They do sound decent though.

And they're so cheap they might as well be free.

They're decent advice for people with no budget.

Honest question, what's the difference between closed and open? Open will leak sound and closed won't? Why do people say open is objectively better?

>>59137900
Open sounds better
>muh soundstage

>>59137900
Closed have shitty to no soundstage. Everything sounds like it's coming out of a tin can.

If you've never used open and only used cheapo IEMs, you can get used to closed quite easily. But if you ever try open, everything else will sound like shit.

>>59137914
>>59137966
What if you don't use headphones to listen to music exclusively? I mean, are all tracks mixed for soundstage? Is all music in movies mixed for it? What about in games?

>>59137986
you notice soundstage in everything. with open headphones, when you listen to music, it feels like you're right there in the studio. with closed, it feels like you're inside of a car listening to music.

>>59138036
I live in a very urban area, close to a train station, why would open headphones benefit me, when I get a lot of ambient noise 75% of the time?

>>59137900
>what's the difference between closed and open?
An open backed headphone is open backed. A closed backed headphone has a closed back.
>Why do people say open is objectively better?
It's not. Full stop.
Open backed headphones have fewer acoustic elements, at very least. A closed backed headphone will have a key sound element an open backed will not have, the closed off rear chamber.

>>59138065
if you're in a closed room, yes. if you're listening outside, no.

>>59138087
What?

>>59138036
>>59138071
So it mostly depends on what you listen to? If you want to experience music, you should go for open, if you want noise isolation for movies and gaming you go for closed?

>>59138152
no you reatrded gaymer manchild. closed sounds like shit with everything.

What's the deal with IEMs? No matter how hard I shove those fuckers in my ear they just pop out 10 seconds later covered in earwax.
Am I just a disgusting mutant or something?

>>59137900
>Honest question, what's the difference between closed and open? Open will leak sound and closed won't?

Yep.

>Why do people say open is objectively better?

Because isolation means compromises for that isolation. Generally in the form of higher distortion and no soundstage, instead feeling that music plays right on your head.

So go closed if you gotta use them in an office or otherwise need the isolation. Else, open hands off.

>>59138219
clean your ears

>>59138204
Except that's wrong, shit for brains.

>>59138228
I did

>>59138152
Closed is sacrificing sound for isolation of yourself from outside, and outside from what you are listening to. But if you're at home where you won't be disturbed or others by you, you don't need to sacrifice sound quality.

>>59138228
Clean your brain. Retard.

>>59138274
Calm down earwax lord

>>59138237
Maybe you just have filthy ears.

>>59138225
>>59138238
So in all cases open has the better quality if you compare similar builds? Is there anyone here that's tested both and liked closed more?

Is there any notable difference in terms of sound quality beetween the agptek 02 and the fiio m3? I want to buy an mp3 but I'm not sure if the extra bucks are worth it.

>>59138315
I have cleaned them with the peroxide stuff from the drug store, I think my ears produce the stuff abnormally fast and in huge quantities.

>>59138152
If you need isolation, you need to block out, to occlude, sound. A closed back would be useful.
If you do not want to block out sound, or do not care, open backed headphones are an option.
The content of what is played back through the headphone does not matter.
>better
They are simpler, but that still doesn't equal better.
Ill-informed thoughts regarding soundstage aren't even a factor.

>>59138219
In-ears have many shapes, both of the earpieces and the eartips themselves.
A different eartip could work. What make and model are you using?

>>59138225
You have no idea what distortion even means. Stop talking about it.

>>59138378
So, it's mostly about isolation then. Bottom line is, I should try them out and see which I like better I guess.

>>59138378
>What make and model are you using?
some no-name junk. I've never bought a good pair because all the cheap ones I've used are so horrible.

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if post ends in 0-4, I get Portapros
if post ends in 5-9, I get PX100 II
if even dubs, both
if odd dubs, neither

>>59137273
My first goodish headphones, really weird sound signature.
They benefit greatly from eqing

>>59138316
>So in all cases open has the better quality if you compare similar builds?

Generally, at any given price, open will sound better than closed.

As price goes up, this difference quickly grows and there's less and less closed options.

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ok, im actualy in need of some help. i have been using earbuds for years. not the in your ear canal ones, just the basic headphones that come with your phone. i buy them from radioshack, get the warranty for 1$, then when they break in 6 months, i go back in, have them replaced for free, and get the warranty again. pretty good deal.
im a production manager at my job, so i need to be able to hear stuff around the factory if someone calls me. so the ear buds work perfectly for me. the noise isolation kind causes problems. also im listening to audio books. so quality is not insanely important.

problem is, everywhere seems to have stopped selling earbuds.

so i want to upgrade. i want to move up to a Bluetooth style headset so the cord is not in my way. but it has to last at least 8 hours. and it has to be earbuds, or something similar that will let outside noise in.
can anyone recommend something that fits what i need?

>>59138682
AfterShokz makes Bluetooth bone conduction earphones, seems like what you need, it's a bit expensive though.

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>>59136865

Gosh anon, are you wearing those dorky Sennheiser headphones again? I already told you to throw them in the garbage where they belong and get you a real headphone like the Fidelio X2. No wonder you can't appreciate audio like me you worthless audio virgin. I'll let you have a taste of the dark sound signature from my Fidelio X2 if you become my little fuck boy.

ha ha I changed my mind Sennheiser losers aren't even worth my time. I'll let you look at them from over there you little cuck.

>>59138682
apple airpods fit your need. rest of the bluetooth earbuds are fucking junk.

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>>59138823
>Fidelio X2

>>59138877
plebbit meme.

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>>59138877
Not an argument.

>>59138948
Neither is:
>>59138823

>>59138743
... holy fuck... i have never heard of such a thing. but this looks exactly like what i want. THANKS!!! for a pair of headphones that are not going to block anything, And also not get me in truble wile driving, these seem great!

>>59138860
i got a pair of earbuds shaped like the airpods. those "slightly" go in your ear, but the shape hurts my ears. after 2 days strait, my ears where killing me.

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>>59138877
>>59138957
Not anon, but at least you can wear them outside without them being confused with your mother's countertop.

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>>59138957
Whatever you say, my little audio virgin of a husband. Just don't come in my room tonight, me and your brother Phillip have something big to discuss.

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I swapped the AKG K240 Velours I had on my 668B's for the SR950 stock velours. We've reached maximum comfy.

why spend so much money on headphones?
how many pairs do you guys have?

>>59139252
My 668B's above your post and VE Monk+'s coming at a total of $40

Recently bought me some xb700 pads after watching Z's review on the M560. Those pads look incredibly comfy.

>>59139252
The road to hell is padded with pure audio enthusiasts.

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>>59139104
>small earcups
>ROUND earcups
>wacky chinkshit headband
after an hour of wearing, those phones double as a torture device.

>>59139252
I currently own:
AKG Q701
AGK Q460 x2 (one for office, one for gym)
Sennheiser HD555 (gave to my wife)

Previously also owned HD280 Pro.

Considering a single pair of home headphones should easily last at least 5 years, they aren't really very expensive when you look at the cost over time.

>>59139252
Sennheiser
*PX100
*HD380 Pro
*HD598
*HD600

Schiit
*Modi 2 Uber
*Magni 2 Uber

Resisting urges to buy even more stuff.

>>59139476
How much money have you contributed to your 2016 and 2017 IRAs? You still have time to fill up the 2016 IRA before April 15th.

>>59139448
>I currently own:
>AKG Q701
>AGK Q460 x2 (one for office, one for gym)
so you don't own a single good set of cans.

>>59139476
>*HD598
>*HD600
all you need anon.

>>59139515
The Q460 is shit and I would not buy again, but the Q701 is my favorite of any that I have tried.

>>59139491
Not murika based.

From Barcelona, living in Dublin, planning to move to Tokyo within the ongoing year.

>>59139446
Been wearing them for three hours now playing Rocket League. You lose.

>>59139515
Except I'm curious about the HD650, HD700, HD800S, DT990, weird dacs that measure like shit but people like (can't hurt to play with!), odd midi boxes with ancient synth chips in them and so on and so on.

But I should probably calm down for a while, resist urges to spend money, and just enjoy my HD600 + shitstack for a year or two.

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>>59139552
>Been wearing them for three hours now playing Rocket League.
retarded gaymer manchild... figures.

>You lose.
that's ironic since you lost at life.

>>59139252
>Sennheiser HD 558
>Philips SHP9500S
>AKG K550

The perfect set of poorfag headphones.

>>59139476
Why so many Sennheisers?

>>59139570
>Except I'm curious about the HD650, HD700, HD800S, DT990,
650's are darker than 600. they feel tiring after few hours.
700's are fairly sibilant and some people like that. EQ highs on 600's and see if you like that. 990's are also sibilant and quite v-shaped. I wasn't a fan of them.

I went through ~30 different cans over the past 2 years. i basically traded & sold cans on various sites and tried pretty much every high-edn can and brand (including Stax and Audeze).

>weird dacs that measure like shit but people like (can't hurt to play with!), odd midi boxes with ancient synth chips in them and so on and so on.
tube amps just distort the shit out of things. rest of the quality solid-state DAC/AMPs sound the same to me. I have Joutenheim right now but to be honest, I can't tell the difference between it and Fiio E10k. I seriously doubt anyone else could either in a blind A/B test.

>>59139605
>Why so many Sennheisers?

Please, just please, I know I should try out other stuff, but I must resist urge to buy even more headphones. I'm running out of physical space for keeping them!

空見あげ 手をつなごう
この空は輝いてる
世界中の手をとり
The world is all one!!
Unity mind.

YAAAYYY!!!

(Yes, that's how I'm using my HD600. Somebody kill me...)

>>59139584
I'm sorry I'm not bird watching with your grandmother while talking about how aged wine tastes like old grapes

>>59139663
>dat projection
go back to playing your gaymes and wasting your life away.

>>59139287
>Z Reviews
kys

>>59139653
>I went through ~30 different cans over the past 2 years.

So which ones were a keep?

>including Stax

Ear Speakers! Definitely getting a pair for research purposes once I manage to get my ass to tokyo.

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>>59139287
>Z's review.
fucking retard.

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>>59138396
If you have no idea - does the earpiece block you from inserting it deeper? Or is it just the eartip not tightly fitting?

>>59139252
>why spend so much money on headphones?
It wasn't an interesting pursuit.
>how many pairs do you guys have?
Pic was from last year, and I got bored of trying to fit in all the headphones I had back then.

I'm looking for some clear sounding closed headphones under 100$. There surely must be something as good as my etymotic hf5 in headphone form. Or is the extra space in the cups vs the direct sound in the earbuds just make it impossible to have a clear sound?

That might be a dumb question because the only headphones I've tried in a long time are either super cheapo ones or my dad's denon's which sound very very echoey.

I guess I could just order a few pairs from amazon and just return them, but I'm a huge faggot and I don't like the idea of ordering something just to try it and then returning it.

>>59139719
What happened to your HD 800s?

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dropped pic related directly onto the ground from about 4 feet up and now they sound fuzzy/distorted in some way. is there anything i can do to fix it?

>>59139693
>So which ones were a keep?
all the high-end cans sounded great to me. I don't have golden ears but I came to appreciate good sound.

one thing I couldn't do was to compare them side-by-side so my listening research wasn't as good as some other people conducted.
I liked electrostatic ones a lot but good ones are extremely expensive $2k and up. I didn't want to keep them as a daily driver. they were also sometimes tiring and I couldn't listen for long amounts of time.

after this excursion in high-end audiophile gear, I ended up buying brand-new 600's and calling it a day.

>>59139693
>Ear Speakers! Definitely getting a pair for research purposes once I manage to get my ass to tokyo.
they sounded good but they were uncomfortable. I prefer cans that I can wear for hours on end since I do a lot of programming.

>>59139742
My dad's headphones are Denon AH-D5000 btw. They sound like absolute shit.

>>59139682
I've got 60+ years to fuck shit up while you can finish yours in 10 minutes with a helium tank and a gas mask you kept from the korean war

>>59139787
>D5000
>shit
you fucking what

>>59139761
>they sounded good but they were uncomfortable. I prefer cans that I can wear for hours on end since I do a lot of programming.

Oops. I guess they aren't for me either then. I easily get headaches from wearing headphones. HD598 were the first pair that I could tolerate. I'm still having trouble with the HD600, which I hope will go away in a while; It isn't as bad as the first couple days anymore.

Also using headphones while at the computer (sysadmin work, programming, watching anime, playing games, whatever)... pretty much all day except sleep or commute.

>>59139796
Tough shit, anon. How tough are you?

>>59139808
I don't know the words to use, but they're muffled and almost quiet in a way. They don't sound accurate. They sound dim. They sound "contained".

sound is bullshit to explain, you have to use these awful weasel words which are probably inaccurate.

Really want to buy a real leather earpad. Are the brainwavz sheepskin ones any good or should I just go up to the ZMF/Alpha pads? Are they worth the 10/20 dollar price increase?

>>59139744
Sold. Didn't need it.
I liked what I could do to HD 800 more than HD 600, but I have better things to do with that money.
The HD 600 wasn't in any condition to be sold, and its sound is still passable.
I don't like wearing things on my head if I can help it either.

>>59139759
Open it up. Check to see that everything is in place. Drivers, voice coil, signs of impact.

>buy expensive headphones thinking that it will make everything sound amazing
>just about everything is mastered or recorded like shit so this isn't the case
JUST

>>59125564
I am a neeto no social life anon and I use mac because I like it and it works perfect 4 years after purchase unlike countless sony, toshiba and other shit.
>>59125607
Go fuck yourself I've got them as a present and they sounded so bad I put them aside and that was when I was young and gave no fucks about headphones. They were better build and didn't rattle at that time but their sound was horrible.

>>59139570
DT990s are probably the funnest sounding out of those and have a really great soundstage (better than the HD600 at least). Some people perceive the treble as harsh but I don't really.

>>59139814
>Oops. I guess they aren't for me either then. I easily get headaches from wearing headphones.
depends on the music you listen to. stuff I like to listen to is not conducive to v-shaped sound. I can't stand those v-shaped or bass-heavy or sibilant phones because they tire me after an hour. I have sensitive ears and I can feel my ear hairs hurt from high/low tones for prolonged periods of time. that shit ain't fun.

>HD598 were the first pair that I could tolerate. I'm still having trouble with the HD600, which I hope will go away in a while; It isn't as bad as the first couple days anymore.
598's are great IMO. I got 600's because I got brand news at 20% off. hard to pass on it.

anyway, I'm pretty much done hopping and searching for that elusive perfect set. it just doesn't exist since human ears are analog and prone to errors.

>>59140057
>I am a neeto no social life anon and I use mac because I like it and it works perfect 4 years after purchase unlike countless sony, toshiba and other shit.
2015 MBP here. everything else is fucking shit. I do have a PC with nvidia 1080 and win/linux but boot into it rarely.

>>59124457
shp9000 + mad dog earpads + vmoda boom is what I'm using when I game
TH-x00 purpleheart when relaxing

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>>59140057
>>59140108

>>59140038
Hahah, the HD600 experience alright.

I'm going through that. The worst of it is that I can't unlearn this. I know the truth, so I can't use colored headphones. I've already taken the red pill. I'm fucked for life.

On the bright side, I somewhat enjoy listening to music even if I can tell the mastering could be better.

>>59140165
kys pajeet and do the world a favor.

>>59140060
>DT990s are probably the funnest sounding out of those and have a really great soundstage (better than the HD600 at least). Some people perceive the treble as harsh but I don't really.

Hmm, £113.99, I could just grab a pair using my disposable income and...

WAIT WAIT WAIT. No. I just bought the HD600 damnit.

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>>59140038
>>just about everything is mastered or recorded like shit so this isn't the case
FLACs are a fucking meme. they come from 44.1k CDs which are compressed to shit. all the new shit is fucking garbage.

good shit are "Mastered for iTunes" 320bps tracks.

https://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/04/does-mastered-for-itunes-matter-to-music-ars-puts-it-to-the-test/

it's the real deal. superior in every which way from CD FLACs. if you're poor, download pirated MFiT tracks. few sites carry those.

The pro version beyerdynamics tend not to be that comfortable.

>>59140233
>>59140304
meant for him

>>59140304
premium is the same, but less skull-drilling-pain-inducing?

They're just a little more expensive as far as I can tell.

>>59124693
nah they'e good, don't be an ungrateful shit you cunt

>>59124693
>Poverty
>$350 headphones

Pick one. You sound like an entitled twat.

>>59140412
Their Pro headphones sound different and clamp more. The DT990 Pro sound completely different (worse) from the Premiums.

>>59140536
>>59140304
>>59140412
>>59140233
>>59139570

Just to clarify I was talking specifically about the DT990-600 Ohm.

I had the 250 Ohm version in the past and it seemed to have slightly harsher highs and was slightly less detailed overall. The Pro version was just dark sounding with recessed mids and highs.

>>59140660
Thanks.

Damn, it's not nice of them to do that sort of thing.

>>59140245
>few sites carry those
Such as?
I use Deezer and Soulseek but they aren't labeled as mastered for iTunes.

>>59125515
Listen dude, I wear big ass headphones everywhere I go and hum to myself so people think I'm a fucking freak and they leave me alone. It's win/win really.

>Page 7

New general when?

>>59141182
Now.

New bread:
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New bread:
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New bread:
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