/hpg/ - Headphone General

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>>59109983
c-can I not?

>>59110000
Fine, those numbers saved you.

>>59110011
dude, stop checking them.

>>59109921
mota is a good artist

>>59110000
>11 00 00
>>59110011
>11 00 11
noice

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So after nearly a decade of use, my Sony MDR-V6 pads have finally started to fall apart.

Any recommendations for replacements, preferably ones that aren't made out of the same plasticy faux-leather?

>>59110556
https://www.amazon.com/Beyerdynamic-EDT250V-Headphone-Pads-Black/dp/B0016MF7W2/ref=nav_ya_signin?ie=UTF8&qid=1488020498&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=beyer+dynamic+velour+mdr+v6&


they are godtier but impossible to clean

>>59110000
WITNESSED

The cable on my Sennheiser HD 205 II's is finally going, had those fuckers for years. Should I stick with the same brand or go for something more adventurous? Looking for that similar £40-60 price range.

>>59110825
Buy cable and replace it.

>>59110882
Doesn't look like they have cables on the parts site, guess I could go aftermarket and rip it apart.

>>59110963

It's probably just one of the internal solders in the earcups. Does the sound cut in and out if you jiggle the cable? If one of the solders just busted loose it's really incredibly easy to solder it back together and a solder gun is like $12.

>>59110986
Probably. I only noticed it when I turned my head and one of the channels cut out.

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Okay, hope I didn't get meme'd last thread. I didn't get the shiik amp or w/e it was called because I just want it now as fast as possible. This will be the first cans I spend more than $50 on.

>>58801802
Thanks buddy, these are great.

>>59109921
Fuck do you autists use yours for?

I just bought me ATH m50x and they have been absolutely great for my use case: guitar amp modelling and mixing

>>59111128
Kyoko screams into my head and accelerates my hearing loss!

>>59111128
For personal listening like everyone else?

>>59111067
I use the e10k with my hd600's and it sounds exactly the same as the o2 and other, more expensive amps. You did great.

>>59111128

MDR-V6 owner >>59110556 here. Originally I got these while I was still living at home, so I could listen to music or play videogames without waking the house up.

But after I moved on my own, I didn't feel the need to really get an amazing speaker setup for my PC, so I still use the good old cans whenever I'm doing gaming or want to really listen to music.

Why does everybody in the headphone scene shit so much over bass? I get that bass can easily be detrimental to the overall detail if it is overdone but there is so much negativity around it. You're a pleb if you want bass, and the flattest of the flat with minimal to no low end are seen as desirable.

Soundstage and imaging are two things that are very important to audiophiles, and why is that? Because ideally we all want speakers and feel like the audio is coming from the room we're sitting in. What makes speakers so great? They're visceral, you hear from where that audio is coming, you hear it bounce around the room, and feel it, and where does a lot of that come from? Bass. I'm not talking nigger booming levels of bass, just good bass.

So why is being flat so important to many people? Wouldn't cans with good bass be best at emulating what music actually sounds like?

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>>59109921
Please help. Looking for IEM. Medium or higher isolation and neutral sound if possible. Around 50 quid.

I had sure SE215. They sucked and died after 2 years. Driver, not cable.

I had Magic PL50. They were awesome but really flimsy and died within a year (cable break). Cable as you know is not replaceable on them.

I have MEE M6 and they are OK although really bass heavy but the cable is already dying. Should I buy a replacement cable or is there another pair you'd recommend.

Thank you.

In case you're wondering why my headphones are dying so quickly - they need to suffer through hiking, climbing, cycling and British shitty weather.

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Is this a good DAC ?

>>59111514
get off gumtree nerd i saw it first REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>59111518
I found it on other site than this gumtree.
How about a price on gumtree, is it good ?
And is this worth it ?

Thoughts on the THX-00s? Waiting on mine in the mail.

>>59111646
Incredibly enjoyable fun cans. Great sub-bass. Highs can be a bit spicy. Pad holes are a bit too small. Purpleheart's colour fades over time. Cable is too heavy.

Pretty damn good value, especially if you can get them cheap second hand.

>>59111067
>Stand
>598SE
Why?

>>59111233
I see all these assumptions in yours post, and I have no idea how you got them.

>>59111067
Great buy!

>>59111646
the best

>>59111067
you most likely won't need the e10k, unless you have a static noise on your motherboard
you most likely won't like the 598
you overpaid for the 598 by a lot

>>59112443
I don't want my stuff to break. My dog is a ninja.
>>59112675
the headphone jack on one of my laptops is bad that I have to press down something on it to keep the sound loud. And my other laptop, thinkpad t520, the sound is low so I thought the amp would help?
>>59112458
>>59111157
I hope so

>>59112675
>won't like the 595

To a person who has been suck with cheap audio their whole life, that's a difficult conclusion to reach. Like, even if the harmonics suck, having more watt/dB and shit can make your face melt.

>>59112732
I don't get how the stand saves the headphone from the dog, but whatever.
Anyway, why the 598SE?

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>It's another Z reviews says this is the best headphone ever video

>>59111067
DO NOT FUCKING BUY FIIO E10K
I bought it just few hours ago and it's the biggest buyers remorse I ever had.
No difference in anything even from my shitty motherboard that costs 45$, noise level is barely reduced on FiiO and it still produces noise that comparable to my mobo sound card.
If you want to spend extra 80$ on making your music slightly louder then go for it, I hope I can sell it now to some sucker for 75$ as "new" so I can get my money back.

>>59112960
Isn't that every video of his that isn't the M50x one?

I have $300 and want a Shillheiser what should I buy?

>>59113105
HD600's if you want neutrality and provided you have a decent DAC/Amp.

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>>59113122
Isnt the build quality horrendous??

>>59113138
No. About equal to AKG cans, and Beyer beats pretty much anything in build quality.

Ignore the dumb shitposting on /hpg/. Mine have lasted 7 years with only the pads needing replacement. As long as you don't do stupid shit, and stretch the headphone heavily when you get them, they'll last fine.

>>59113138
Everything from Shillheiser is cheap McDonald plastic shit

Is the Philips X2 overrated?

>>59113122
>HD650
fixed

>>59113175
Not really. They're certainly not giant killers or whatever people often praise them to be, but they're decent, especially as they seem to be getting cheaper and cheaper recently.

Their lack of sub-bass is the only thing that irks me, but other than planars, I doubt anything open is really going to be too satisfactory in that regard.

>>59113231
>wanting veiled highs and more midbass

really, the best option is to just get whatever is cheapest, and EQ.

>Repost from last thread.

I've got the SHP9500 that I like, are the 598's much of an upgrade in sound quality?

>>59113138
your mom's horrendous.

>>59112960
Which ones this time?

>>59113270
hardly

598's are just less grainy in the mids, and have more warmth and midbass. better comfort imo, but both are super comfy anyway.

save up for a HD600 or something of that tier.

>>59113105
600's no fucking question. If you want the bloated normie version, get the 650.

>>59113238
>currently using 668B
>mainly listen to classical
>can't get the SHP9500 easily in the UK

Seems like saving up for a pair of X2s is a good idea?

>>59113175
No, but they're expensive when you consider the price of the 600's, they're muddy as fuck compared to them. The build quality is fantastic though.

Want to upgrade 712 in terms of soundstage, anything good? Otherwise I'll look for a pair for music/movies

>>59113314
What are your thoughts on the 668b's?

X2's would essentially be a 668b, but more toned down. Not inherently bad. If you really like your 668b's though, 990's would be a more logical upgrade, as they're a lot more similar in tonality

>>59113349
I used to own the 712's but before that I had 702's. They're the only headphone I've tried with a bigger soundstage but they don't sound as nice as the 712's overall.

>>59113357
I find the 668b's highs fatiguing to listen to. (e.g. playing something like Four Seasons with violins)

>>59113392
Oh okay. 990's wouldn't be great then. Also have quite sharp peaky treble.

X2's should be better as they're a fair bit more dark.

>>59111067
I'd have gone with a schiit fulla 2, which retails at +$19, includes a dac, and isn't chink.

Otherwise great buy. Now, allow for 1w to get used to the signature, don't follow stretching guides and snap the headband like a moron (they'll get comfortable after a few days of wearing), and absolutely do not EQ.

>>59113401
Looking around I can get the SHP9500s from US Amazon for about ~£80. The X2s are currently £250 on UK Amazon (they've been on sale for ~£150 before).

I'm not too fussed about having open headphones, maybe something like the M40x is a good alternative? I've already decided against the V6/7506 because of the highs.

This is what I'm currently looking at:
>Can buy it now tier (up to ~£100)
>M40x, SHP9500

>Have to wait (£100+)
>X2, any other suggestions

>>59111157
Got shitstack, can say: DAC made a huge difference vs onboard. Amp not much, somehow.

>>59113466
>The X2s are currently £250 on UK Amazon (they've been on sale for ~£150 before).
they are 110 euro in scandinavia so if you have some friends or relatives there you can save 100+ pounds

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>/hpg/
>SnapheiserShill.com

What went wrong?

>>59113466
You may not like 9500's if you find 668b's too bright. 9500's certainly aren't as sharp, but they're up there.

M40x have virtually no soundstage [not that headphones in general have a particularly large soundstage at all anyway], and the stock pads are garbage, which adds onto the price as well.

I'd wait for X2's desu. Or even keep an eye out for 600/650's getting low.

>>59113472
Yeah the dac in my e10k is better than my onboard but the most noticeable thing is how quiet it is. My o2 dac in the past sounded exactly the same as my e10k dac so I'm not sure what to think about different, expensive amps+dacs. Seems a bit meme territory to me.

>>59113466
Do not buy the x2's for more than £150. Get the hd600 if you get near the £200 mark

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>>59113498
>they are 110 euro in scandinavia so if you have some friends or relatives there
>tfw no friends or relatives there

>>59113513
>>59113532

I'm using a laptop, won't the HD600s be too hard to drive?

>>59111233
Flat doesn't mean no bass. It only means earthquake on skull bass isn't priorized over fairness in all freq spectrum (including bass).

Bassy riffraff phones also uncomfortable for extended periods.

And those with trained ears will actually prefer the detailed bass in neutral headphones over earthquake simulating but otherwise absolutely dull and distorted garbage.

V-shape is a scam that exploits the fact neutral signature headphones may take days to get used to, while high treble high bass sounds good in the shop, which sells headphones like pancakes.

>>59113547
>I'm using a laptop, won't the HD600s be too hard to drive?
Yeah, didn't factor that in. You'd probably need a better amp for 600's.

>>59110556
You can get a cheapo version off ebay and its just as good.

>>59113574
Not him, but I'm interested. Link?

>>59111514
fulla2 packs a good dac and a good amp in a nifty tiny metal box with a $99 price label.

If in doubt, just fulla2.

>>59113547
Yeah, pretty much. The e10k is only £60 on amazon. Hd600 and e10k are my endgame and have been for some time. I barely look at audio stuff anymore because there's no need.

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>>59109921
Best budget headphones coming through.

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I have sennheiser HD 598's, and I really enjoy them. Is there any reason why I'm wrong?

>>59113607
Overly mid-bassy. Highs are grainy. Retardo sennheiser 2.5 locking jack. Otherwise for the price, theyre quite good.

>>59113105
HD600 are considered the best headphones Sennheiser makes. I love mine.

They do need amp because low sensitivity (quiet AF, you'll want the gain) and hard to drive (300 ohm). A fulla2 will suffice. Just don't fall for the fiio e10k meme, the value/price vs fulla2 sucks.

>>59113598
I don't even know what the fuck to get any more tbf

>>59113547
>I'm using a laptop, won't the HD600s be too hard to drive?
no

>>59113138
Don't follow stretching guides and snap them like a moron.

They get comfortable after days of use, without retarded stretching nonsense.

>>59113633
The only one I'd agree with is the mids being too bassy, which really is only an issue when listening to people talking.

I've never noticed grainy highs and I dont really see how the 2.5 locking jack is a problem, since I never really take the cord out. It is kind of weird, but I'd rather the jack lock than not lock. Im pretty sure you can get new cords for nothing if yours breaks and you give sennheiser a call

>>59113231
Most reviewers that do both agree that HD600 are the better phones.

HD600 are legendary neutral.
HD650 are similar but colored slightly.

Color is nice at first (yay everything sounds good!) but it gets boring fast (eek everything sounds the same, bland!).

>>59113607
damn I can't stand that mercedes interior look

>>59113652
If you can afford it, buy the 600 and an e10k from amazon. If for some reason you don't like them you can send them back hassle free and they usually come and collect it from you. I've done it loads of times with random electronics. Just make sure that the actual seller is amazon and not some company selling through them.

>>59113515
dac+amp with usb power are nice as they take the source out of the equation. Will sound the same on my laptop or desktop or at work, shittyness of the computer's integrated sound is dodged.

>>59113690
>I've never noticed grainy highs
Its only really noticeable if you go back to them from a better headphone.

>I dont really see how the 2.5 locking jack is a problem
Stand up and get the cable caught. Congratulations. Headphones fukt.

> It is kind of weird, but I'd rather the jack lock than not
2.5/3.5/6.3 jacks already have a system to hold them in place. A locking 2.5 is just sennheiser being money hungry. Doesn't benefit you in any way.

>Im pretty sure you can get new cords for nothing if yours breaks and you give sennheiser a call
lolno. this is sennheiser we're talking about here.
It's more the fact that yanking the cable is likely to rip out the 2.5 female on the headphone end, rather than just falling out if it was a standard 2.5

>>59113607
Slightly bright, not pure neutral. Great value for the money, and a good intro to audiophile hell.

I have just upgraded to HD600, which are godlike and feel endgame; Beating these is going to be really hard.

Purchase advise please.

>Budget
I wouldn't really want to go over £20 but I suppose I could go slightly over

>Location
England

>Source
Laptop and Mobile

>Type
Don't care, so long as I can use them whilst sleeping

>Open or Closed
Closed

>Comfort
See Type

>Past Headphones
Nothing of significance.


I don't really care about quality, I'm not an audiophile and don't really listen to music anyway, I'm just sick of having to constantly buy headphones or use half-broken ones, since the shit ones I have to use break every other week. I just want durability really.

>>59113297
What would be an upgrade to the SHP's in the ~$200 range?

Plan is to get 600's eventually, but I'd need an amp first which means I need $400, so I'd like to have something to tide me over.

>>59113867
HD600 + fulla2

>>59113852
You have convinced me to just cancel my order >>59111067 and just save for the 600s due to you spamming it. It must be good, yes?
>>59113033
yeah okay...I probably should just invest also in a pc that doesn't have a shit motherboard

>>59113867
Just save. There isn't much really bridging the gap.

>>59113809
>Stand up and get the cable caught. Congratulations. Headphones fukt.
How do you even do this? the cable is like 12ft long (my only real gripe about it, its way too fucking long). And are you like getting up and full on sprinting across the room and jerking your head like a rhinoceros? How would you not notice the cable tethered to your head before causing damage?

Replacement cords are also like $10, if sennheiser doesn't want to help, but you'd be surprised what companies will do for you if you just ask. Most will send you free shit just for writing them a nice letter saying you like their products.

>>59113896
You'll change computers over time, while good phones are for decades.

That's why usb dac+amps are nice. They sound good regardless of computer.

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Got the Sure SRH1840 yesterday. They are delicious. Definitely an upgrade to my Fidelio X2s.

>>59113455
>allow for 1w to get used to the signature
>absolutely do not EQ.
What the hell kind of suggestion is this supposed to be?

>>59113554
Everything you just said after the first line is some kind of really wrong.

>>59113867
>What would be an upgrade to the SHP's in the ~$200 range?
I don't think that exists at any price point. The nearest fit is the SRH1840, which has its own cdrawbacks.
HD600 isn't that much like SHP9500. Much more of a general low end lift below 200-300 Hz. HD600 has more unevenness around 4-8kHz, peaks and dips.

>>59113981
That's a rather stark change in signature instead of an "upgrade".

>>59113896
I love my HD598. At their current price, they're a steal.

HD600 are better but they also cost twice as much.

>>59114003
>That's a rather stark change in signature instead of an "upgrade".

Yea soundwise its more a sidegrade but the comfort is off the chart.

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>>59113863
do you have walmart or an equivalent chink-shit-mostly store in UK? walk in and buy the cheapest headset they have on sale and is within your budget. there's no need to overthink this because whatever you buy will be of the same quality at that price range.

>>59113896
>You have convinced me to just cancel my order >>59111067 and just save for the 600s due to you spamming it. It must be good, yes?
you're an idiot. hd598 are perfectly fine and sound amazing. don't listen to these autists. save that 2x price difference and spend it on something else.

>>59114003
>HD600 has more unevenness around 4-8kHz, peaks and dips.

This sounds very unpleasant, do people just eq it out?

>>59113896
Not the guy you're talking to but yes, they're the best I've ever tried and I can't see myself ever buying another pair unless some new wizardry releases. They make every song you've ever heard sound 'normal' and by that I mean perfect, well, besides the bass. The bass is lacking so if you're crazy about that then you might not be too keen. I've added a little bass using my EQ thanks to a guy on here who helped me and now they're even better imo.

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>>59114088
>pic related

>>59113797
he can buy hd600 without amp/dac first and after some time add e10k
my hd650s work good without amp/dac with my shitty laptop

>>59114072
That's what I usually do, how much am I going to have to increase my budget if I want them to last?

>>59114138
That's true but it's more fun to use the full package right of the bat.

>>59113896
yes it will be better
i compared hd598 with hd650 playing from my iphone without amp/dac and hd650s sounded noticeably better

>>59114167
hmm i think it's more fun when you get used to sound without amp/dac and then BOOM it's even better
two times fun

>>59114169
HD6xx series are a category up over the HD5xx, by consensus.

Both lines benefit from amp, 6xx more so. But both will work without.

By all means, get the good phones and upgrade with an amp (<$100 usb dac+amp, any more is not worth it) later down the line.

Just pulled the trigger on phillips fidellio L2, got them open box for 100 bucks, feels good man

>>59114209
Agree 100%.

Way to actually appreciate what the dac+amp is doing for you.

A few months without and then adding one and going WOW.

What did it for me (hd598) was chihaya's aoi tori. Never liked it too much, but after fulla2, I love it.

>>59110825
>he doesn't replace the cable

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>>59114169
>yes it will be better
>i compared hd598 with hd650 playing from my iphone without amp/dac and hd650s sounded noticeably better
BULL-FUCKING-SHIT.
HD598 sound 10x better off an iPhone than HD600/650. Why? Because HD598 are 50Ohm and HD6x0 are 300Ohm cans.

You rally need an amp to discern differences between the two.

>>59114159
>That's what I usually do, how much am I going to have to increase my budget if I want them to last?
HD598 are built like a tank. Metal and plastic cups/grille and they seem sturdier than HD6x0 because the headband is stronger.

You can't go wrong with either of the two and I'd recommend ppl go with HD598 if money is an issue. If you're a student, NEET, don't have a full-time well-paying job.. go with HD598 and buy an external DAC/AMP like E10k or Fulla2. Either will do and I have both and I can't tell the difference between the two when playing on either of my Senns headsets.

Pic related.

PS: You're welcome to take anyone's advice on here but I have both and have tested them extensively and my opinion is not based on heresay and someone else's opinions.

>>59114545
>HD598 sound 10x better off an iPhone than HD600/650. Why? Because HD598 are 50Ohm and HD6x0 are 300Ohm cans.
>You rally need an amp to discern differences between the two.
maybe you are deaf, I dunno. because the only problem was volume deficit with hd650s. and differences were sufficient.

>>59114545
HD600 series are low sensitivity. For a given source's volume, HD5xx will sound way louder.

This is what makes them not suck on low power sources, despite high impedance.

On a low volume, the power requirements are also low.

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>>59114604
>maybe you are deaf, I dunno. because the only problem was volume deficit with hd650s. and differences were sufficient.
You're retarded. iPhone can't drive 300Ohm cans well. You need an external amp to drive them.

Both phones benefit from an AMP. HD6x0 benefit more, of course, but then so do HD598. Once you've set the volumes for each of them, it's pretty hard to distinguish them unless you've listened to either for extended periods of time.

My gf is a classically trained musician and evem she had hard time distinguishing them when she tried it for the first time. Takes hours to tell the difference and even then it comes down to a matter of preference.

>>59114674
Right.

>>59114545
>iPhone
Phones generally have a builtin headphone amp.

Computer outputs typically do not.

Keep that in mind. I type this as I've just finished a round of Love Live on my OnePlus3 connected directly to HD600. They sound wonderful.

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Anyway, I use HD600 most of the time since I can afford good shit and have plenty of cash to waste on audiophool equipment. But HD598 are perfectly fine and sound great and are the best deal in $150 price range. HD600 don't sound 2x as good. And HD650 sound worse than HD600 so people should never go by price or model numbers alone.

Not to mention that if you're over the ago 20, you've already lost the ability to hear higher frequencies so don't worry about the left side of headphone freq response graphs.

>>59114755
>Phones generally have a builtin headphone amp.
It's not about the amp, it's about impedance matching. iPhone and most phones have 7Ohm impedance. That's low but but acceptable for HD598 since impedance of an amp should be about 1/8th of the impedance of the headphones.

HD598: 50/8 = 6.25 (OK for iphone/ipod)
HD6x0: 300/8 = 37.5 (HORRIBLE)

So you need an amp to power HD6x0 from an iphone/ipod/whathaveyou. That's why Fiio and others sell portable headphone amps.

>>59114836
>left side of
sorry, right side of the graph. was typing in a hurry... have to be somewhere in 20 min.

>>59114836
>I can afford good shit and have plenty of cash to waste on audiophool equipment.
lol

>>59114836
>Not to mention that if you're over the ago 20, you've already lost the ability to hear higher frequencies so don't worry about the left side of headphone freq response graphs.
This isn't true for everyone, I'm 28 and can still hear up to around 18-19khz

>>59113729
>HD600 are legendary neutral.
My ER4SR shits all over my HD600.

>>59114977
>spending that kind of money on iems

HAHAHAHAAA

>>59114836
impedance matching generally means you want 10x or more between output impedance and your headphones.

Most headphone amps have a really low (<1ohm) output impedance to attain that with low impedance headphones (like the HD598s).

On HD600 this is not a problem. However, *power* output of amps does drop as headphone impedance rises. Which is why amps generally have a table of output power (in milliwatt) vs headphone impedance.

audiobot9000.com is a good site to do the matching and see the resulting max SPL and damping (headphone:output) factor for any given headphone/amp pair.

>>59114836
>>59115221
>impedance matching
Please don't appropriate transmission line terminology for transmitting audioband signals over a short electrical run. Impedance matching means equal impedance, and nothing else.
I'd assume you mean "damping factor", which is not right either.
>iPhone and most phones have 7Ohm impedance
I don't know what other phone you are referring to, but iPhones generally have lower |Z| than that.

>iPhone 5
http://goldenears.net/board/GR_Mobile/2456504
>4S
https://www.seeko.co.kr/zboard4/zboard.php?id=m_device&no=34
>6
https://headphoniaks.com/smartphone-iphone-6s-htc-10-meizu-pro5/
>6 Plus
http://www.kenrockwell.com/apple/iphone-6-plus.htm#measurements
>6
https://www.seeko.co.kr/zboard4/zboard.php?id=m_device&no=9

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It's been 2 weeks since I got these.

I have been listening to them non-stop, my headphones became obsolete.

Are headphones are overrated?

>>59115673
>wanting your neighbors to hear japanese girls licking ears coming from your house

>>59115673
Enjoy the added latency and your room's distortion.

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>>59115700
Do American houses really have sound isolation this bad?

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>>59115066

>yfw you will never know if the grapes actually are sour or not

>>59115883
I'm in urop
you're delusional if you think your neighbors can't hear your speakers unless your houses are seperate

>>59115883
Get raped and kill yourself, you retarded fucking faggot sack of nigger shit with down syndrome.

>>59110556
>So after nearly a decade of use, my Sony MDR-V6 pads have finally started to fall apart.
WTF don't you just replace the earpads for $10??? Why waste money on new cans if the old ones are perfectly fine?

>>59110000
check'd

>>59115892
>spending over £50 on iems

Jesus fucking christ. Iems are for pleb travel mode, get good cheap ones and spend real money on actual headphones for home use.

>>59115972

>iems are for pleb travel mode

They sure are when you spend less that 50 britbux on them.

>>59115673
What headphones do you have?

>>59116241
AKG 702

>>59116041
Nobody concentrates on the quality that hard when walking around or using public transport. I spent £10 on god tier chink iems. Paying what you did for those is plain fucking weird. Besides what I just said, they could snap incredibly easily. Spend the real money at home. You're either stupid, or bad at managing your money.

Anything similar to the X2 but closed? Need a removable 3.5mm cable.

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Are there any full sized headphones that sound like the VE Monk Plus?

>>59117286
k701 since those have no bass.

>>59117286
just buy some headphones and put the monks under them senpai

>>59117286
Can anyone tell me if these are a reddit meme or are they actually any good?

>>59117459
I bought them and I absolutely love em. They have so much clarity, they almost don't sound like earbuds.

Besides, they cost like 5 bucks. If you don't like em, it's not big deal.

>>59117511
Fuck it, I'm going to buy a pair. Cheers.

Is there any DAC where I can plug both my headphones and microphone? Might be asking too much, but any chance of having one that also has a mic mute toggle?

>Budget
<$100
>Location
US of A
>Source
iPhone
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Open or closed
Closed ofc
>Comfort level
Decent to good would be great
>Sound signature
Neutral to warm, not too bassy, clear mids and highs
>Past headphones
HE-400i is my current, i love them, had M50s, hated them

>>59117630
USB mixers can do that. Behringer Xenyx 302 if you want a cheap one, Yamaha AG03 if you've got money to spend.

got k550 mk2 month ago (upgrade from hd668b). still on fiio e10 olympus

absolutely loving them.

>>59117794
Those look way too big. I wanted something with a similar footprint to a regular amp/DAC, but with the ability to plug in both cables at the same place. The mute switch would be just a nice extra, but it's not required.

>>59117846
I don't know how big the Yamaha is but the Behringer is tiny, just slightly bigger than my O2.

>>59117286
598's

>Budget
$250 max
>Source
Phone, Computer
>Type of headphone
on or over ear, preferably something small enough to travel with
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
doesnt have to be great as long as it doesnt cause any problems
>Sound signature
prefer neutral but v shaped is alright too

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/hpg/ please berate my choice in headphones (this is my fetish)

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Has anyone ever tried these?
My last pair broke and I'm looking for something equally as comfortable or more-so.
I'll probably just get these again but I'm open to suggestion.
My budget is $200

>>59118279
Brainwavs HM5

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>>59118243
I bought those exact headphones before I actually got nonshit ones... Going back to them it just sounds...bad. Too much muddy bass and comfort is pretty ass what with the shitty textured earpads.

>>59118413
I don't use bass because it hurts my ears (thanks shitty genes)

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>>59118429
...you don't "use bass"?

Wait are you saying that you eq out all the bass?

>>59111233
A flat frequency response produces a neutral output, meaning there is no coloration to whatever you're listening to from the phones themselves. That simply means you can alter the phones to fit whatever profile you'd like or you can get a finer grasp on the mastering of your music. Naturally a neutral set of headphones also boasts better studio performance as well. With that said you can still adjust the equalizer to accommodate your needs rather than relying on an unalterable piece of hardware to permanently commit you to to a specific coloration. But nothing is perfectly flat, either, so there are compromises you'll have to make.

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>>59118458
No, it means he does not 'use' bass

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>>59118484

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Welp, I went to visit my grandparents today and we ended up digging through my grandpa's old stuff.

Then this appeared.

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>>59118458
I turn the bass off on every device I use

There's often a slider or a dial for it, which I put to 0

>Budget
$200-$250
>Source
Phone, Computer
>Type of headphone
over the ear, on ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
the more the better, gonna be using them for 9+ hours a day
>Sound signature
v shaped, neutral

>>59118527
What type of music do you even listen to...?

>>59118561
Dubstep, hip hop and deep house.

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>>59118561
The undertale soundtrack, mostly

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looking for advice

>budget
50-80 eur

>comfy level
maximum

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RE0 cable crapped out for the second time after 7 years. Missed out on the massdrop RE-00 by a couple of days.

Looking for new IEMs that might have more bass, but same clarity
>budget <$150

how do the 32 ohm dt 770s sound compared to the others?

>>59117789
se215

>>59117816
>not e10k
fucked up nigger

>>59118243
no

>>59118279
these are the same as hm5
supposedly has some QC issues nowadays, or so I heard
check OP for purchasing advice

>>59118607
I think I woke up my neighbors laughing too hard

>>59118611
gonna need more than that

>>59118721
worse

>>59118544
>v shaped, neutral
those are opposites

MSR7

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>>59118815
Please do not bully me.

>>59118815
>worse
which one's the best? the 250s?

>>59118874
track 16 is me right now

>>59118924
yes, but I'd say you're best off getting the 80, because even if you can run the 250 at home, you might want to use them on the go once, which might be trouble with 250

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Looking at getting some IE 80s for my commute and studying at university since lugging my HD598s around outside of home is pretty difficult. What else is competitive with the IE 80s for sound quality and build quality within the same price range? They're about $400 Ausbucks.

>>59118332
>>59118279

It's the same exact headphone.

Just get them again. I've never had a problem with the build quality even though I can see where they fail at aka the hinges that attach to the cups. Just be more careful with them next time or try the Somic MM185 though I doubt they are as comfortable.

>>59118967
do you need an amp to drive 80s with a mobile device?

Are Fidelio X2s the best sub-$300 open headphones that don't need an amp?

Are headphones with integrated mics shit? Particularly the cheaper ones

>>59118874
>buying music on steam

I won't bully you, but I will pity you. Still a great soundtrack even if its fandom is a bunch of degenerates.

>>59119211
no, which is why I recommend it over 250
some mobile devices will drive 250 as well, but ot all of them,n better safe than sorry

>>59119221
That or the Monoprice M560.

>>59114712
>You're retarded. iPhone can't drive 300Ohm cans well.
And mind explaining what you think iPhone somehow lacks that makes it unsuitable for a high impedance load? Or is this the never ending "high impedance = hard to drive needs more juice" meme?

>>59119267
im seeing a few people online saying it benefits from an amp. what mobile device did you use to drive them?

>>59113604
How Good is it?

What are some decent headphones for casual gayming?

My budget is gonna swing a bit because I live in Argentina and tech imports don't have a tariff anymore.
Comfort should be ok, I don't expect anything great for cheap.

>>59111067
>overpaying for a glorified HD558
kek

>>59115673
Those are better than any headphone on the market

>>59119600
>>59118544
Fill out this.

>>59119221
HD600.

They'll work just fine without an amp. Just not very loud, because they're low sensitivity, meaning if you want them to go loud, you'll need an amp's gain (and power output, but of course you'll have that with an amp).

>>59119726
Yeah guess I fell short.
Budget around $200, maybe 250.
I'm PC gaming.
Don't really care about the type, and I don't know about open vs closed enough honestly. If any is strictly better for vidya, then that.
Don't really care about sound signature but I guess neutral?

>>59111067
I'd remove the amp. HD598 do not need an amp, but benefit from one. You can always get the schiit fulla2 later, and hear the difference. Much more fun.

>>59119840
$250 -> HD600 w/o amp.

Future upgrade -> get an amp (schiit fulla2 > fiio e10k)

>>59119868
Thing is, I need a mic. (Doesn't have to necessarily be a headset). I probably need to go for cheaper headphones + a clip on mic, right?

>>59119840
Open is the better choice for gay men for its better spatial rendition. You also honestly might not need an amp for HD600 depending on your mobo. My Asus z-87 drove my audiofag friend's HD600 fine with him saying there was no distortion

I've never lurked these threads before and I know very little about audio stuff, but I just bought Audio Technica ATH-M30x after a recommendation. Did I fuck up or did good?

>>59119840
X2 with Boompro if you want a headset, AD900x with ECMCS3 clip mic if you don't.

>>59119840
Don't listen to the sennheiser shills with there HD600/650 because you will definitely need an amp with those. Which puts you over budget. But if you want a neutral sound signature then go over budget and get the HD600 with a cheap amp.

>>59119975
You fucked up. There's no reason to even look at the M series audio technicas under the 40x. Could have got a Somic MM185, NVX XPT100 or ISK HP2011 for that price. Cancel before it's too late.

>>59118815
>>not e10k
>fucked up nigger
i got it over 4 years ago along with my hd668b. e10k wasn't even around then.

>>59119947
Heard the HyperX Stingers are actually alright headsets.

>>59120037
>HD600/650 because you will definitely need an amp with those
no you won't you retard, i'm willing to bet you've never even used them before

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>>59110556
How have you never replaced the pads?

>>59120037
You really don't. They are not that hard to drive contrary to their impedance.

>>59119947
>Thing is, I need a mic. (Doesn't have to necessarily be a headset). I probably need to go for cheaper headphones + a clip on mic, right?

Ew. I'd consider the mic a separate problem. Cheap chink on-desk stick type can be <$10. For good ones, check r/letsplay. They have long threads about it.

>>59110556
Anything other than the stock pleather type will change the sound significantly.

>>59120037
>Don't listen to the sennheiser shills with there HD600/650 because you will definitely need an amp with those. Which puts you over budget. But if you want a neutral sound signature then go over budget and get the HD600 with a cheap amp.

They work w/o amp, just quite quiet. They're low sensitivity, which makes the volume low, which makes the power requirements low.

When you jam the plug into an amp's hole, it gets the amp's gain, so the volume can be high, and the amp will likely be able to feed enough power, since it's an amp.

>>59120047
>alright headsets.

Pfffrt.

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>>59113604
They comfy

>>59119947
AKG K612 with an amp and Zalman Clip on if you really need a mic. E10K Might work for an amp.

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>>59120510
You're right, they are

>>59120497
Nigga lives in Argetina and I'm assuming his budget is actually converted from his coin so yes

Anyone have experience with the ISK hf-2010?

Look like open Takstar Pro 80's which is intriguing.

>>59120047
>actually alright headsets.

There's no such thing.

>>59120561
>Superlux
>Comfy

No.

>>59120676
They're the Takstar 2050's. Which are open versions of the Takstar Pro80.

HF-2011 is the Pro80.

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>>59120510
>HM5 pads
My man

>>59120725
New pads, my guy. If you're wearing them outta the box, you're doing it wrong. The wing system doesn't bother if you adjust them.

>>59120725
>They're the Takstar 2050's. Which are open versions of the Takstar Pro80


So I'm guessing they're v-shaped.

Are they reliable?
Not tryna get a busted pair with no warranty.

>>59119352
>Or is this the never ending "high impedance = hard to drive needs more juice" meme?

Another anon but this is this a never ending "apm only to make shit go louder" meme? I have HD600 and my mac alone goes to levels loud enough for me but with amp the sound is different, esp the midbass hump.

>>59120827
Yeah they're v-shaped. My 2050 still work though I really don't use them. They're easily worth the 40 bucks they go for. Love all the metal on the headphone for its price. The build quality seems fine to me. Though the wire on the top of the headband is pretty tacky, it doesn't really affect anything.

>>59113554
Are the 9500 flat? Is that why I can't get used to them?

>>59115673
Headphones don't have a real soundstage and comparable bass amount, but speakers have sounds bouncing and mixing up around the room which is good to get a better feel but together with higher distortion it makes headphones sound clearer, for me vocals never sound the same on speakers as they are on headphones.

>>59121040
Thanks anon.
Think I'll grab a pair to see if I dig the v shape open sound before investing in X2's.

>>59121027
>apm only to make shit go louder
While amplifiers are designed primarily to amplify, the function of an amplifier is not restricted to that. They can be used as buffers, presenting a idealized load for a sub-optimal voltage source.

>>59121062
>Is that why I can't get used to them?
What's your problem with them?
>Are the 9500 flat?
They lack bass. They're coarsely flat above 100 Hz or so, but they lack low bass.

>>59121140
Reverberation is a linear process, one that can be thoroughly described with the bounds of an LTI system. In other words, it is totally characterized by the impulse/frequency response.
Not that most fellows here know what a frequency response is. It might be too confusing.
>bass
Whether or not you care for feeling the bass in body parts besides the ear, headphones are not explicitly limited in the LF pressure they can present to the ear.

>>59119418
Comparable to HD 558s in terms of overall sound quality. The best under $100, and they constantly go on sale for $50.

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Need an ID on these cans.

Convince me not to buy a HD800.

>>59122409
Sibilance.

Do Bluetooth speakers suffer the same way as Bluetooth headphones do in terms of sound quality?

STOP SELLING FAKES ON EBAY REEEEE

> tfw to poor for ciems
> complys are expensive

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>>59122409

>>59121978
>Comparable to HD 558s in terms of overall sound quality.
LMAO. You've obviously never tried HD598. Philips SHP9500 don't sound anything like any of the Senns.

PS: You're shilling too much

>>59122269
Skullcandy Hesh 2 Wireless

http://www.skullcandy.com/headphones/wireless-headphones/HESHBT.html?cgid=1000&skdy_mic=Universal&color=Silver%2FBlack#tuJ3qKoLI01lxEe0.97

>>59122969
I said sound quality, anon. Not sound signature.

In your opinion, what are they comparable to, anon?

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I bookmarked this site last year when a friend recommended it to me and I didn't go through the course because I didn't have good headphones to actually tell the sounds apart (trust me, I tried).

https://www.goldenears.philips.com/en/challenge.html

And now, Philips has taken Golden Ears Challenge site down.


FFFFFUUUUUCK! What do I do now?

>>59122984
>I said sound quality, anon. Not sound signature.
Sound quality is a completely meaningless term.

>In your opinion, what are they comparable to, anon?
They reminded me of some cheaper SONY MDR phones. But they sound nothing like Senns.

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>>59110000

>>59122969
>>59122984
I missed the 598s. Looks like you can't read, anon; and neither can I.

>>59123008
I said 558s, fellow anon. Not 598s.

Look back again.

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>>59122970
>shes a skullcandy pleb

>>59123078
Kek. Look at that sound sig.

http://uk.rtings.com/headphones/graph#328/323

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first time poster in /hpg/ no bully pls

>Budget
Around $100
>Location
just gonna order online
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
MAXIMUM COMFY PLS
>Sound signature
General, I listen to about everything when it comes to music and game a lot on my off time in just about every game genre. Not concerned with movies since I have speakers for that part.
>Past headphones
Just uniformed-tier gaming headsets
-Corsair 2100 Vengence(W), Corsair Void(W) which is the garbage im upgrading too.
-HyperX Revolvers, they are nice but every damn setting I try to fix/set will not stop echoing and I sound like im down the hall.

I'd not against another wireless Headphone/set, but I'd prefer something wired (or that can do both) since I do fly home a bunch when I can. And I'm tired of buying cheapo $10 iem's

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>>59123099
>BASS
well she does like hip hop...

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>>59123099
JESUS! I think a regular Campbell's soup tin can has a better frequency response. WTF are they doing in treble?! Skullcand? Moar like Skullcancer.

>>59123120
>Closed

What did he mean by this?

>>59123135
>>59123135
like a solid housing, not a housing that is mesh

>>59123120

Somic MM185 or NVX XPT100

XPT100 will be the more comfortable of the 2

>>59123151
>>59123120
+1 for the XPTs

i guess a headphone with nice bass and treble for ~250 will be for home desktop use

for electronic music i like /bleep/ as a sort of add medication when studying

>>59123120
>>59123151
also the

AKG K553 and Soundmagic HP150 are good choices as well

>>59123162
>>59123151
They look nice, but is there something comparable that has this look/feel ? >>59113604

>>59118243
the plastic on those logitech headsets are terrible and will break within a month or two if you're not extremely careful.

>>59123176
Not really, they are probably the comfiest headphones for the price range.

Also, ignore my original recommendation >>59123162 if you can find AKG K55Xs for ~$100, then they're pretty great for the price. They're comfy, but their earcups might not be for everyone.

>>59118243
Fairly sure those are "ok". Not the end of the world

>>59123164
Fidelio X2

>>59123233
Hmmmmm... noted, they look neat, I just feel like they'd break easily lol

well you and several others have recommended them, so I definitely put them on the list to consider ordering.

I mainly just don't XBOX HUGE ones

>>59123277
Used my 550s daily for a year while commuting before retiring them.
Never had any problems. I still use them occasionally and they work great.

>>59123277
I'm just having trouble recommending comfy budget headphones in need of a pad change.

Also, the cans are built well; the only thing you need to watch out for is the non-detachable cable.

>>59123336
Meant "not" in need of a pad change.

>>59123336
>>59123346
I can manage pad changes/etc
>non-detachable cable
ugh, Yeah I would

>>59117459
Kinda both. Theyre similar to 598's in warmth and meaty midbass. Highs are quite nice, but imo they feel kind of distant. They have fitment issues for a lotta people too.

reminder to not get veilheisers

>>59123573
Too late

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best budget headphones coming through

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Recently got to modding my t50rp mk3s. Simple stuff: loading cups with cotton fiber, closing bass ports with electrical tape, and using some TP between the driver and the pads to quell the highs a bit. Effectively made it v-shaped; anyone know some reversible mods to increase the midrange a bit?

>>59123598
It must be a really strange, sad job to have to shill shit on 4chan.
Hope it's going well though, mate.

>>59118279

I've got a pair of them. They're ok, but I feel most would have a better time with 598s, or if your budget is 200 dollars, maybe something a bit more premium?

These are quite balanced, but with treble that is a bit siblant imo, and not amazing mids and bass. Because there is nothing special about these other than being balanced and slightly siblant, a lot of people I've talked to about them hate em. They were my first 'good' headphones, and I think they are ok, but I would say to consider something else. ESPECIALLY with that budget.

You can always try the /r/Headphones sub on reddit for recommendations. There is a sticky for them daily and a lot of people who have tried many headphones to give recommendations.

And also, don't listen to ZeosPantera (Z Reviews) seriously if you have watched his youtube. (He has the only video review of the xpt 100s I know of, thought you may have watched it)

>>59123099
http://uk.rtings.com/headphones/graph#328/323/325

Had to test against HD600 (my cans) for reference.

Christ, wtf rollercoaster. People buy that shit?

>>59123721
You can never underestimate marketing, I guess.

>>59118279
HD380 Pro or HD598cs if you need closed. Else HD598se.

>>59123721
What's the matter, anon? Don't like rollercoasters?

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Hearing bad things about the connector being used for these headphone but also hearing good things like how it's similar to an lcd-2.

That's some pretty nice packaging for a 300 dollar pair of headphones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gENIhyPPYYg

Only could find and unboxing video so far, can't wait for an actual review.

>>59123787
>planar headphones
>tube amp
you went full retard. I hope you're not gonna use that for prolonged periods of time.

>>59111490
How were the se 215?

>>59123787
>tube amp
why

Can someone redpill me on these Skullcandy headphones?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005LSQ6RC/?tag=pcp0f-20

>>59123943
they're shit.

>>59123943
>basketball
spic

>>59123787
What's the point of even using a tube amp?
You're paying good money for a nice pair of headphones with low distortion and then just adding distortion through an amp. Seems like illogical audiophile faggotry.

>>59123958
>>59123971
Why? they claim these claim to enhance parabolic sound.

>>59123787
LMAO HE PUTS THEM ON BACKWARDS

>>59123975
it's guitarfag logic

muh "warmer sound"

>>59123905
It's a hybrid. Plus it's the amp/dac seen attached to them on the Monoprice store.

Didn't really need to buy it as I got the E09k/E17 combo but considering this is 100 dollars cheaper than the combo and looks much more impressive. I'm willing to give it a shot.

>>59123980
>LMAO HE PUTS THEM ON BACKWARDS
Yeah, he's a fucking retard. He even looks at his HiFimans and yet he still puts the new ones on backwards.

Those Monoprice looked even more retarded than HiFamans with those monster earpads. You can't wear that shit for more than 20 min before you start sweating profusely. I doubt you can even put them on in the summer.

>>59123996
It makes more sense to use those for recording though since adding effects is typical for musicians. With headphones or speakers you are literally just fucking up the payback of the recording more, and offsetting the money you've paid for the higher end equipment. You can also just EQ to get warmer sound and it costs $0 dollars.

>>59123996

Don't knock it til' you've tried it. Can really enhance a lot of headphones; it just needs a good pairing to do good.

Are you jealous that you don't have one? If it was really so much of a meme it wouldn't be a staple of the audiophile world for so long.

FYI, I do not own a tube amp.

>>59124043
Maybe you want to stick it to musicians and make it sound how you want. With that logic, we should only buy 100% balanced headphones; why get what you want when you can get what the musician and whoever mastered the track wants?

>>59124019
>It's a hybrid. Plus it's the amp/dac seen attached to them on the Monoprice store.
So you fell for marketing?

Not only do planar magnetic drivers introduce a lot of distortions due to slow response time but you're gonna also compound that with more distortions from a tube amp?

Jeez.

>>59124067
>If it was really so much of a meme it wouldn't be a staple of the audiophile world for so long.

The fuck is that backwards logic? Audiophiles are famous for their retarded magic sound changing cables and 50000000000000000 hour burn ins. Just because its been long favored by audiophiles doesn't mean it has any validity.

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Post garbage headphones.

I'll start.

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>>59124091
>I'll start.
Okay? We're waiting.

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>>59124091
Post aesthetically comfy
headphones.

I'll start.

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>>59124116

>>59124067
lmao why would I be jealous of a tube amp? I could make one in five minutes tops

>>59124067
You make no sense. My comment was specificity about distortion added with tubes. You can just save yourself a whole lot of money and buy a shitty pair of warm $20 headphones with tons of distortion. Or you can EQ in tube distortion with foobar plugins for $0, which pretty much sound the same as an actual tube.

>>59124115
The picture is right there. Just open your eyes and stop drinking the sennheiser kool-aid. That veil and build quality were acceptable in the 1990's, it's now 2017. Time to stop falling for the nostalgia grandpa.

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>>59124193
>. That veil and build quality were acceptable in the 1990's, it's now 2017. Time to stop falling for the nostalgia grandpa.
It's fucking sad that in 2017, no one can still match Sennheisers in quality and price point. All of their competitors sound like shit in same categories.

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Why does beyerdynamic insist on having the headphone wire running between the left and right housing to be completely exposed and kind of just bulging out waiting to get snagged on something?

It's just a shitty skinny wire too, not even braided or covered with anything.

>>59124237
I was with you until you started shilling Sennheisers hard. Please stop this, anon.

>>59124241
Easier to service maybe. The cable is actually thicker than most other headphones with exposed wires such as the Sony 7506 or Shure 840. The reason its there has probably more to due with it being an old design though.

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>>59124116
I've always thought the HD600 marble pattern looked cooler than the HD650

>>59124286
it does. not only the pattern is better but also the sound is better too.

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>>59124237
>Quality
>Sennheiser

>>59124266
That headband looks great. Is it some modded Custom one pro?

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Hey guys, Tyll here. Just enjoying my smooth sounding $700 cable because Sennheiser isn't competent enough to include a good one with their HD800.

>>59124266
>dat headband
is that for elephants or whales?

>>59124330
Yeah I found it on plebbit. COP's with ZMF pilot pad and pads. Probably ultra comfy.

>>59124334
God Tyll looks like a fucking spud in his old videos. Glad he evolved into mall Santa recently.

>>59124340
Buffalo actually.

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>>59123603
Sup T50rp bro?
Did you close the ports from the inside or the outside, and do you plan on putting clay on the driver side? Also what pads are you using?
Also did it increase the bass/sub range, or just increase the volume?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm about to make a Hobby Lobby trip for some materials

>>59122409
Stax are better