Any hype for this?

>>59106929
>not n900
no

>>59106929
>android
that's why i bought the classic in the first place, to avoid that shit.

>>59106929
Not really, no.

Give us a 4.7 inch FHD phone with a horizontal slide out keyboard and I'll be interested.

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>Android

Just stick to the tried and true iPhone you fucking retard

As much as I'm hyped for the new DroidBerry, I hope there is a future for BB10 devices.

>Android
no

>>59106929
Ye, I hope it will be decent

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>company markets itself as the go-to source for secure mobile computing
>uses Android
keks were had

>>59106929
yes

>there will never be a phone with as great a keyboard as the palm pre
why live

>>59106929
its a phone, fuck off

I am, but I am also hyped for NOKIA returning. However if they return just to make some mediocre Chink phone, I'm done.

>>59106929
>physical keyboard
no thanks, i'm not an autistic 30yr old man

If I ever did get an Android BlackBerry, that'd be the one. I'll stick with my Passport though.

>>59107322
Don't get your hopes up then.

>>59107322
NOKIA isn't the one making the phone, do you understand that right? It's just some chink using the brand.

>>59106940
>n900
it's dead, just let it go.

>>59107029
>Android
yes

>>59106929
Yeah, kinda. It's not a real Blackberry device but at this point I don't give a fuck. I just want a phone with a decent physical keyboard, wish they also added a Stylus and I'd be settled.

>>59108960

Didn't NOKIA more or less set HMD as a proxy anyway ?

I'm more excited about the possibility of a Surface phone.

>>59106967
trump uses an android senpai

>>59107023
Same here, but let's be honest.
Things that you will be able to buy soon or at all:
>a new BB10 device
>the thinkpad retro
pick none.

But I'm afraid it's not for me. Seems fucking huge, and android really is a problem.
Apparently the use stock android, and that is just terrible. I have more information on my Q10s 3.5 inch screen, than my gf has on her 5 inch android, because every button is fucking huge, and there is white space everywhere. Also, the whole OS looks like it was designed for and by kids.
They even didnt really implement the hub and gestures, but instead use androids default press-back-100-times retarded way of doing things.
And thanks to their focus on security, you can't even load another rom that might make android bearable.

>>59107049
Blame the market.

>>59106929
Half of me wants to buy it to contribute to BB not going bankrupt.

Half of me wants to just go and get a BB Q10 or a Classic so they realize they still have a market in those.

I'm not sure what to do desu

Will it be rootable? This decides whether I buy it or not.

>>59110661
Of course it will not be.
That's their whole marketing pitch. OS is signed and locked to the device, so that no one can tamper with it.
>security!

Now, I totally agree with this in theory, but in practice, android is an unusable POS when stock, so the device is also an unusable POS. Unless BB comes to their senses and develops a sane BB10 skin for android to make that heap of dogshit usable.

>>59106948
>4.7 inch
Yeah nobody wants a phone for baby hands, m8.

>>59106929
disgusting shitty portrait keyboard.

Landscape or nothing you utter failure.

>>59110688
As if BBOS is in any way usable except for checking your twatter.
>can't even block ads on system level
Jej

>>59110702
id kill for a landscape phone of that size...fuck phablets, i dont need that thing taking up my entire fucking pocket.

seriousl giant phones are taking up valuable dick space in my pants

>>59110707
Did you get the memo that phones are now so fucking huge that a portrait keyboard is now as big as a landscape keyboard, back when they still made those?

Anyways, the BB keyboard is better than any crappy landscape one I have ever used.

for all I care, landscape can die on mobiles. Only usefull for games, and those can die too.

>>59110726
Stop getting skinny faggot jeans. No, you're not supposed to get cargo pants either but I have no problems fitting my 5.7'' note in my pocket.

>>59110751
and as already stated...giant phones in my pocket are terrible...

>>59110772
Same here, but even the 3.5" classic is bigger than a large phone of yesteryear, so the keyboard is big enough.

>>59110834
no. its portrait. it is and shall remain fucking worthless. and blackberry will continue to die.

they need a landscape version. End of story.

>>59110718
BB10OS is amazing, I'll never use Android again.

>>59110707
>>59110859
You're so hostile about your inferior preferences.

>>59110702
fat fuck detected

>>59108249

Autistic 33 yo here. Portrait hardware keyboards don't work for us either. Go landscape or go home.

>>59106929
Would still be far inferior to the Samsung Galaxy Note 4.

What is the second front-camera-looking thingie?

>>59110383
Isn't stock Android what everyone wants?

>>59110561
Just do what you want. I got my Classic two days ago and I love it so much. Comfiest phone I've ever had. Some people really like the passport too.

>>59113181
Direct visual feed from your phone to the NSA

>>59113181
Proximity sensor?
Not like it can go through metal. So they use a dark glass to cover it.

>>59113213
Aren't proximity sensors just a little dot usually? Why is it so big?

I tries using my old lg cosmos the other day. Turns out years of typing on a touchscreen totally kills your ability to use a physical phone keyboard. Honestly with word predictions and swipe typing it's probably faster too.

>>59113243
I used touchscreens for years and loved my Q10 when I got it

>>59113226
Maybe for symmetry, but I don't know

>>59108249
>you must be 18+ to participate on this board
Physical keyboards are kill on modern phones.(all though I agree with one anon that they work ok in landscape mode) If you need to type longer stuff use a laptop...
Also Blackberry is obsolete for 7 years now..

>>59113271
>Physical keyboards are kill on modern phones.(all though I agree with one anon that they work ok in landscape mode)
It's all personal preference. I love portrait keyboards, they're the only kind I'll use.
>Also Blackberry is obsolete for 7 years now..
This is even more irrelevant as an argument than you think BlackBerry is as a company.

>>59113226
That's likely where the famous BlackBerry notification light is too.

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Android 7.1 Nougat on board
4.5-inch scratch-resistant, 1620 x 1080-pixel display, 3:2 ratio
Qualcomm Snapdragon 625 Octa-core chip
3GB RAM, 32GB on-board storage
Dimensions of 149.3 x 72.5 x 9.4mm, 180g weight
Smart QWERTY keyboard
12MP rear camera (Sony IMX378 sensor) with 4K video at 30 fps, f/2.0 lens
8MP fixed-focus front cam, 1080p video
3,505 mAh battery, 50% charge in 36 minutes
USB Type-C

>Interestingly, the North American (U.S.) version of the BlackBerry KeyOne does not support all of the essential 4G LTE bands required by Verizon Wireless and Sprint, so it will likely only work with AT&T and T-Mobile.

>>59106929
TCL is garbage

>>59113323
Don't forget
>$799 US

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>>59106967
>tried and true iPhone
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
http://bgr.com/2016/08/26/iphone-touch-disease-iphone-6-plus-bendgate-how-to-fix/
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPF6Po1gJnM
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>pic related
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHHAHA

The camera from the Pixel, physical keyboard and additional security for the shitware-ridden Android ecosystem and operating system in general. Color me interested, actually.

>>59113418
Seriously? Fuck

>>59113465
Price hasn't been announced so take it with a grain of salt.

If it is going to be 800 bucks then it'll flop. They can't afford more failures.

>>59113465
Leaks are saying $550-600

>>59113521
Seriously? Fuck

>>59113418
DEAD ON ARRIVAL

>>59106948
>slide out keyboard

its like you want it to break in under a month, slide out keyboards have always been terrible

>>59113539
It's expensive for a mid range phone but who knows. Maybe it will be better than we expect.

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I don't like how glossy and rounded it is. Wish it just copied the design language from this.

>>59113475
BB phones are generally more overpriced than Apple phones. If it's $600 it's going to be cheaper than expected.

>>59107049
that's the problem.
>>59093233
there's the solution

>>59112479

Autistic 32 yo here. I refuse to use anything besides portrait physical keyboards on phones. Fell in love with them on the glorious E71, like it even more on the 9900 bold and found perfection in the Q10.

>>59113189
Apparently, but why, tho?
It's utter shit.
Besides all the retarded decisions for the internals of the system, it also was designed by a blind girl with too many bright colors at her disposal.
How anyone can use, even like that shit, I don't understand. It's as atrocious as apples crap.

>>59113984
what do you use nowadays

>>59113323
>3GB RAM
ridiculous.
My Q10 has 2G, and it's a 4 year old phone that doesnt use FUCKING android

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The Classic had the perfect keyboard.

>>59114068
it's the same keyboard that you get on a q10.
and it was an earlier device

>>59114055
BB10
But I can't really use it anymore to surf the web, which kinda sucks, because every fucking site has one of those floating top menus, taking up half of my screen.
But other than that, it's perfect.
Fast, doesn't get in the way, well designed, good looking and hub is fantastic.

>>59106929
>physical keyboard
>2017
wtf are they thinking?

>>59113619
They're both really similar actually

>>59114386
They were thinking physical keyboards are /comfy/ as fuck

>>59110702

Wow it's almost as if it was meant to be properly used one handed like a phone should be or something.

Really activates the almonds, doesn't it?

>>59106929
I'm hype

>>59106929
if you have to ask, then obviously there is no hype

>>59114588
This is why the company is irrelevant and don't sell anything.

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>>59106929
OH MY GOD IT HAS BUTTONS!!!!

>>59108249
Touch screen boards are pure shit compared to QWERTY. And this is a fact.

>>59114859
Agreed

>>59114859
>having to constantly press the key to cycle through each letter

Your nostalgia a shit.

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>>59113418

>>59106929
SSH, remote desktop, even texting or Facebook chat will be great on this because you can type whatever you want without autocorrect getting in the way. On-screen keyboards are shit and have to rely on shitty prediction algorithms that replace what you're trying to type with what it thinks you're trying to type. If this is under $700 it'll be a day-one buy for me.

>>59115050
You are literally retarded. Kill yourself.

>>59115050
You know what QWERTY is?

The KEYone is here, and it's $550 USD. What do you guys think?

>>59106929
>Android
Nah

Not having a pointer is a mistake, as it has been on every other phone.

No landscape keyboard=no sale.

Portrait keyboards are worse than no keyboard. The first company to make a modern landscape slider gets a sale from both me and my wife instantly.

>>59116132
I think it's a shitty portrait keyboard having piece of disappointment and failure.

The fuck would I pay 500 USD for an inferior keyboard? If it was landscape I'd easily pay 700.

>>59116132
It's better than the failure that was the Priv, but $550's a bit high considering its specs alone. I was hoping for $450 or perhaps even $400. In the end I'm probably going to buy it since I can sell my current phone for at least $150 to bring the net cost down, and because I can't wait to go back to physical keyboards after years of settling with onscreen keyboards.

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Was very hyped for this, been waiting for months
Just watched the MWC livestream
but
>£500
>early April

They dun goofed

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>still no decent landscape-style QWERTY sliders since the droid 4 from 2012

Are they literally fucking retarded?
They're a failing fucking company trying to get back up
How can they have the cheek to give their phones Apple-tier pricing
Idiots.

>>59116873
Yeah I think I'll be picking it up when the price drops about $100

>>59109570
does he really? i remember seeing his tweets being sent from an iphone

>>59117052
not him but you're remembering wrong
there are plenty of pictures of him using some kind of Samsung

>>59114386
Some people prefer them, quit complaining that only 99.99999999% of the market conforms to your preferences.

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>>59114386
>business phone aimed at people who write emails, which is objectively faster and more accurate with hardware buttons
>LMAO WHY???????
fucking really, guy?

>>59117095
oh you're right. it says twitter for android on his tweets, i must've noticed it when i opened a rt

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>>59117095
>>59117261
wait, i found one that says iPhone, so i guess he uses both?

>Blackberry throwing Lagdroid on above mediocre hardware
>not realizing that the only advantage they had was a relatively secure phone OS
>not working on making a corporate/organization centered device that could be easily deployed in environments with need for high sec and enterprise function

It's like they stopped caring

>>59106929
Man. I own a Passport. Love the fucking phone, it's a tank in the best way possible. But I was committed to a new phone.

I was close to getting the Pixel. But I'm definitely getting this. I love keyboards and swype type stuff on an actual physical keyboard is so fun.

>>59117366
>not realizing that the only advantage they had was a relatively secure phone OS
which is something that 95% of people who buy phones don't give a shit about

>>59117298
The iPhone ones are written by his secretaries.

>>59117398
>thinking the only phone market is one that caters to normals

Protip: specialized niches are more profitable than dumping your now close to worthless brand into the main market that is saturated with competition

There is a large demand for secure devices that can be deployed with an OS that is already integrated into all the corporate policies and software. Deploying iOShit or Lagdroid for secure enterprise/gov environments is a nightmare currently. Too bad upper management and execs are mentally retarded and keep putting out abortions with Android and a physical keyboard, as if there is a relevant market that cares about them anymore.

>>59114346
My Passport is probably my favorite phone. I will always have a soft spot for my Palm Pre though haha. I miss my windows 7 Palm Treo too. Ah, gadgets gadgets gadgets!

I'm getting this new Blackberry though. Pixel was going to be my first foray into Android, but I'm gonna try this instead.

I agree with your posts on Android design btw. Everything is so jarring at first, especially when you come from older design language that really did focus on beauty through utility. (something I actually think apple did really well expanding upon with their OS until it got crushed under it's own weight)

I may try buying a red Passport still and just swap phones whenever I go out. May pick up a classic too, eventually.

>>59117481
you sound at least 30

>>59117366
They didn't stop caring, they stopped making money

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I really just want a hiptop form factor phone with touchscreen for the usual smartphone nonsense. Physical keys are nice and even google has yet to make an autocorrect that doesn't shit itself on a regular basis.

>>59117600
they stopped caring about adapting to the market and maintaining distinct competitive advantages

They didn't just stop making money magically
They neglected the market for years

>>59113577
I managed to broke almost everything in my X10 mini pro, from wifi to sd reader.
But the keyboard always worked great

>>59117642
Oh, don't get me wrong. They fucked up. They just didn't know it until it was too late. If the Mercury came out in 2011 or something who knows what would have happened.

>>59117833
>They just didn't know it until it was too late.
I mean, what did they think was going to happen as the smartshit market matured? They went stale for years

Trump continues to use a random unhardened android phone (which is against all kinds of protocols iirc).

Obama first had a blackberry, then got a super locked down, hardened android.

>>59117849
I guess they figured there would always be a market for their phones with corporate consumers. There might be, if there is, I have no idea. I'm the only person I know with a BlackBerry.

>no dedicated number keys

fuck it

>>59117916
I personally don't mind using alt for my numbers, but I wish they were spanned across the top row of letters rather than being in a 3x3 block on the left side of the keyboard.

>>59113431
>no android phone has ever had issues
holy fuck

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>>59106929
I am sucking in that sweet sweet smell of burnt solder right now in preperation

>>59117905
What OS do you think Trump uses on his PC?

>>59118009
no idea, i wouldn't be surprised if he couldn't even use a pc properly. Prolly some custom windows

>>59118009
Gentoo

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A QWERTY keyboard with a fingerprint sensor built into the spacebar. The keyboard also responds to touch gestures which mimics the old BlackBerry trackpad;
Running Android 7, the latest version of Google's Android operating system;
A 4.5 inch touch screen display;
A Pre-installed BlackBerry security software called DTEK;
A Fast charge allowing 50 percent charge in 36 minutes; and
A 12 megapixel rear camera and 8 megapixel front facing selfie camera.
2.0GHz Snapdragon 625 SoC, 3GB of RAM, 32GB of storage, a 3505mAh battery, a MicroSD slot, and a USB Type C port

549 US DOLLARS
549 US DOLLARS
549 US DOLLARS

>>59118067
Why are the specs so shit?

>>59118081
what exactly is bad about those specs? I agree that it is retarded to put an 8MB selfie-cam on a fucking work phone and that it'll probably be a bit large, especially with the dedicated retarded android softkeys, but other than that, it seems solid.

>>59118081
How are they shit

>>59118081
A: blackberry/TCL execs are incompetent
B: Their target audience (older wealthy exec types) don't care/ understand and have plenty money

>>59118119
Mostly 3gb RAM, 3505 mAh battery

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>>59118067
attack it's weak point for massive damage

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>>59118009

>>59118121
>don't care/
If it does do what you want it too, why should you care?
>understand
What's there to understand?
>and have plenty money
>550$
>plenty money
lol
Sure, its a lot for something you might break after one drop, but for a phone it seems quite cheap nowadays. Plus, if you buy a few hundred of them, you certainly get a better price, as you will on amazon in a year or so.

I don't even like Android and I would buy this right now, if it wasn't 550 fucking dollars.

Is there any chance they'll drop the price before actually releasing it?
Also why the fuck do I have to wait until April
It was basically the same at CES in January, now it's two months on
What more do they want

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No BBOS10? Lagdroid instead?

f u c k i n g d r o p p e d

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>>59118171
What are you, poor?

>>59118167
i'm not criticizing. I just speculated why it has slightly underwhelming specs at a flagship price. I'll prolly get one

>>59118189
BB10 is dead nigga, no new device will ever have it again

>>59118196
>Android/Google
>Privacy
Pick one

>>59118204

NO U

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>>59118230
but don't you want crystal clear pics of a horses ass at 300 yards?

>>59118196
>""""most secured""""""
>lagdroid
MEME IT!

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>>59118347
this 14,000 dollar beast weighs in at 250 fucking grams of pure awesome

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>>59106929
I'll care win Blackberry makes a phone that runs Ubuntu.

>>59118204
Sad but true. I love BB10.

>>59117988
>I personally don't mind using alt for my numbers, but I wish they were spanned across the top row of letters rather than being in a 3x3 block on the left side of the keyboard.
They do this to mimic a traditional phone's numpad, as the phone app on previous blackberry devices recognized numbers on the keyboard but not letters

And couldn't BB just use a software keyboard for that? Kind of like the Apple touchbar, but in a useful context?

>>59118461
>Ubuntu
Get a load of this badass.

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>>59118272
Who are they trying to fool?

>>59107049
BB has some nice hardware security features added to their android phones that mitigate some of this stuff. Others are mitigated by monthly updates and reactionary security patches. It also has a grsecurity patched kernel. Agree it's still swiss cheese.

>>59108479
If only there was a properly specced BB10 phone without that abortion of a keyboard. I'll be getting one soon, though.

>>59109090
>Stylus
This and the ability to swap the capacitive keyboard to trackpad mode outside of text fields. Even an OEM case with a stylus would be excellent for signatures and markup.

>>59110383
Android hurts, but unless you're willing to develop your own apps to seal the functionality gap, you're stuck with the hobbled products that BB is slapping their name on. I would go back to BB10 if not for the need of a video calling application.

>>59110718
You can work around not having native ad block either by using firefox mobile + ublock or maintaining an ad blocking proxy server or VPN.

>>59113226
Possibly notification LED, light sensor, proximity sensor, whatever other sensors are trendy these days... the front camera also has a flash.

>>59113243
The question is whether you'll be able to use the software BB keyboard. That's truly the greatest point of their modern phones.

>>59115079
The key problems with dealing with the terminal are still here. No tab, no ctrl, no arrow keys or home row, no corrective assists when dealing with the command line, etc. I have a Priv but still jockey between the hacker's keyboard (cramped, no swipe to delete so typos are frustrating) and soft/hard keyboard.

>>59116132
$100-150 overpriced with a questionable market outside of /g/-tier, autists, experimenters, hipsters, current corporate clients.

>>59118461
A phone powerful enough to run sandboxed OS's and/or apps is my dream. I need a second phone for chinese botnet and a third for North American facebook+ botnet.

>physical keyboard
Grandpa, no

>>59122252
pleb

no trackpad, no home button, no buy

>>59122583
ledditor

>>59123446
The keyboard is capacitive, but yeah.. would do well with a trackpad, especially as android has mouse functionality built in.

>>59116873

They're not failing. They are a software company and phones are just side stuff. If you research stuff like QNX you see that blackberry is still a very profitable company. You just have an outdated view point of them and assume they give a shit about trying to please the average Android user. They are aiming for corporations to partner this phone with the software they're selling. That's the end game. The BlackBerry keyone is just a side thing that corporations can benefit from. This isn't marketed towards you and I. They also don't give a shit what's the opinion of normies when it comes to this.

>>59113323
blackberry won't even blink twice before handing over your data to whomever is asking for it. ever since that press release, blackberry can fuck off and die as far as i'm concerned

>blackberry selling your data to gubments
>not even waterproof
0 interest. why the fuck should anyone care about blackberry again...?

>>59109285
no, all that's left is the brand, most of the people that made cool stuff at NOKIA are working in other places. When Microsoft took over a lot of the good guys left and the rest started leaving each time Microsoft failed to deliver. It's a fucking empty husk.
World has changed, you need to adapt or just be forgotten and even though NOKIA post Microsoft could not build a single fucking phone to save it's ass could you blame them? Blackberry is in a similar position but at least they got TCL to make their shit.

>>59118189
I want a BB Password with android next.

Bump, because hype.

I kinda want one, just because of the fact that it has a unique look, even though it's totally ugly. The design language they had on the Q10 was much nicer.
Anyone yet found some size comparisons? I would be really interested about how much larger than the Q10 it is.

>>59123867
It is marketed towards me
I've been waiting for this phone for months

>>59123909
>>59123937
Source on them selling people's data?

It's a $299 phone, more accurately about $259 at best, certainly not $549 so fuck it, BlackBerry is dead.

>>59117052
His OWN tweets are sent from an android. The campaign tweets are coming from an iPhone. Or now the announcements etc.

>>59125794
>hyping a dead company

>>59126166

So what if it is dead, you're not buying stocks but product.

>>59114859
this. I like having both but before smartphones were a thing and I was just browsing on a desktop I never thought "I wish I could touch these webpages"

>>59106929
I really hate that silver/white thing at the top. Should've keep it black. Would still probably buy it if it is available in my country and cost $100 less. Shitposting on my q10 with clover was so comfy.

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>>59106929
>Any hype for this?
Niet

The recent cloudbleed incident has made me super fucking paranoid about security and passwords and all that so now I have Keepass on my computer and cellphone and for every account I have online.

I'm seriously considering a BlackBerry phone because people say they have extra security features on a hardware/kernel level, which is nice. But how are BlackBerry with monthly security updates and keeping the Android version up-to-date?

Does anyone here have the Priv? What Android version is it on?

>>59106929
I'd get one if I have the money. The last phone I used with a physical keyboard was the Nokia c3
>Less smudge on the screen

>>59110702
Compensating manlet detected.

>>59106967
fuck apple

>>59118119

I would agree that it is a solid smartphone for $249-299, but utterly fucking overpriced bullshit at twice that.

>look folks, it's the worlds first 16:10 smartphone
>LG one-ups them with an 18:9 display a day later
>both companies are fucking stupid at this point in time, LG was so good there for a short window in reality with the G2/G3 and even the G4 except for the boot loop issues
>rear-mounted controls = fucking superior
>idiots

>>59126796

When it comes to OS updates they're slow but they're super fast with security updates. Probably the fastest company to release security updates out of all of them.

>>59115079
It's funny you should say that because my last day one purchase was actually a blackberry. The storm. The clicky screen was supposed to be an iPhone killer. It was not.

>>59113577
>its like you want it to break in under a month, slide out keyboards have always been terrible

Wrong.

Case in point: nokia n900 and n950.

Fuck off.