Redpill me on Ryzen, /g/.

>>59106430
it's gonna be gr8, m8

>>59106442
I said redpill, not shill.

>>59106430
chances are, it's going to have some growing pains, and the early adopters are stepping into a dangerous minefield that must be walked through.

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It's gonna be shit for anyone buying in AUS

>>59106430
I can't stop thinking about it

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>>59106430
OCUK staffer “Gibbo” reports successfully overclocking a retail Ryzen 7 1700 processor with an ASUS Crosshair VI Hero motherboard ($255) to 4.05GHz on all 8 cores. With this overclock the CPU would effectively be running 450MHz higher than the Ryzen 7 1800X flagship, which is very impressive considering the huge price delta between the two chips as well as the low 65W TDP of the 1700. “Gibbo” estimates, based on his results, that the 1800X should be able to hit 4.3GHz on all 8 cores.

We just tested a 1700, it hit 4.0GHz stable in everything, but ONLY in the Crosshair mainboard ($255), the lower-end boards it was hovering around 3.80GHz as the VRM’s were cooking with extra voltage. It however was maxing around 4050MHz, so I’d say 1700 can do 3.9-4.1GHz, of course the 1800X will probably do 4.1-4.3 as no doubt better binned, but if your clocking the motherboard has a big impact on the overclock and so far Asus Crosshair and Asrock Taichi seem the best two.

Buy NASDAQ$AMD immediately.

The 1700X here in NZ is $600. xDDDD

>>59106522
>living in Australia
Well there's the problem.

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>>59106567

>>59106430

95% Kaby Lake single core performance, much faster multi-threaded performance over kabylake just because of it's 8 cores versus 4.

It has weaker AVX performance but it's a niche instruction set anyways.

Overall it's a great choice for a desktop, and there's all kinds of tricks and tech built in that make it a great choice

>>59106567
Just stick with the Intel Pentium. It's classic.

>>59106430
It's a good thing for everyone since Intel will finally have to lower their prices.

>>59106522
>>59106567
Why so high? Some kind of VAT?

>>59106581
it is literally the opposite of a problem. i would give my balls to live in australia and not the third world shithole i was born in.

>>59106430
It's better than what Intel shills say but worse than what AMD shills say.

>>59106698
10% goods and services tax on top of an already ridicilous price

>>59106707
Where were you born?

>>59106707
too bad, we're full

>>59106743
https://www.ifitweremyhome.com/compare/EC/AU

>>59106522
>Still better perf/$

>>59106430
AMD seems to have gotten its shit together and made something to actually compete with Intel. Only time will tell; after release, if it's genuinely as good as the shills are saying, it'll be a new golden age for performance increases next generation.

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4 words my friend!:

Stock
RGB
CPU
Coolers...

How can they even compete???

>spending $400+ on an overhyped processor

for what purpose

>>59107109
To compile gentoo faster.

>>59107041
>AMD seems to have gotten its shit together
well it helped that amd fired nearly everyone who worked on faildozer. even fired two? ceos because of it.

>>59106522
I thought those were scalpers.

>>59106430
Literally the second coming.

>>59106522
When you convert it to USD, it's only about $40USD more than Americans pay. It's far better than other products.

>>59107133
No, really, what is the purpose of a high-end desktop processor? What do you faggots need all that power for?

Gayman? Rendering videos? Shaving seconds off of actual productive work?

>>59107239
Actually, Americans prices are without tax right? We're pretty much paying the same price as them.

>>59106489
That is the """"""redpill""""" faggot

>>59106516
There are no "growing" pains for CPUs. They either suck or they don't. This sucks.

>>59107254
VMs, any kind of video or audio editing, encoding/trancoding, compiling, rendering, webserver, dataserver, pfsense/VPN, etc etc

>>59106430

AMD is dropping a line of processors that are on par with Intel's Core series but pricing them far lower. The real redpill is that Intel has been going full jew for years with no competition.

>>59107254

Video editing and compositing for me.

>>59107336
Stop samefagging shill. Nobody here runs a fucking $1,000 6900k. Ryzen sucks balls against a gaming intel on 4.6Ghz+.
Let alone it's a $500 chip you are talking about.

>>59107351
intel shill detected

>>59107351
>nobody here
Good thing everyone's here on their mom's 2500k and pentiums being poorfaggots and are irrelevant to the HEDT market.

>>59107361
Fuck you and die cunt. You have repeatedly samefagged the same bullshit. You have not seen the chip released yet, it's $500 against a cherry picked $1000 intel chip literally NO ONE runs here, and the cherry picked intel chip is a fucking 3.2Ghz chip with a max frequency of 3.7Ghz when literally everyone here with a good Intel chip is at least on 4.6Ghz and gave less than $400.

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>>59107383
Are you being retarded and suggesting that AMD WONT release low core count chips that can clock high?

>>59107383

Damn, you're mad. Did you're Intel check bounce?

Wow, you Intelfags were so rich and lavish and suddenly everyone's running $200 processors and i3's and that's all that matters.

Really churns your grey matter.

>>59107424
Intelfags are poor and rich on demand, depends on how AMD's doing.
Fair weather fans and children, nothing really new, everyone that's been following the CPU market for over 10 years is aware of this.

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>>59107351

>>59106430
It's going to lose to intel on every possible benchmark.

If it was actually good AMD would have already "leaked" benchmarks to boost pre-sales.

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>>59106556
>that the 1800X should be able to hit 4.3GHz on all 8 cores.
My friend's 5960X could hit 4.6 on all cores. Big whoop

>>59107606
But your friend 5960 doesn't cost $500 and never will

I'm just excited for intel tears.

>>59107695
It does now
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i7-5960X-3GHz-Eight-Core-BX80648I75960X-Processor-/371872761923?hash=item5695580843:g:6uoAAOSw4A5Yq5D9
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i7-5960X-3GHz-Eight-Core-BX80648I75960X-Processor-/172548365862?hash=item282caf1e26:g:514AAOSwfVpYsK5N

>>59107601
There's been an entire week of benchmark leaks.

>>59107723
Those two are in auctions, the price isn't final
Also, they are both used.

>>59107371
I have a 2600k and its my dads.

>>59107254
Gamedev

>>59106430
Cheap and better than kabylake

>>59108014
Literally how?

Still see no reason to upgrade from my 2500k.

What made this CPU GOAT?

>>59106430
you're gonna fucking die

I don't get all the roleplay from amd fanboys or intel fanboys who go for each other's throats, it's pretty childish.

The only things one should care about are facts, Ryzen looks very promising and I really hope for hopecoming users that it'll hold up to its promises that'd be great for competition and lower prices for everyone.

Ryzen will not BTFO Intel any soon, Intel will still have a monopoly in apple devices or anything thunderbolt related.

If you want to be redpilled regarding Ryzen, buy one and test it or wait for non-amd reviews.

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>>59108039
Price compared to Intel and increased performance over AMDs last processor line up
(All monetary values are in USD.)

The R7 lineup isn't meant to compete with the 7700k for solely video games. It's meant to show how price gouging the Jews at Intel really are with their 4+ core processors. What's really meant to compete with Intel's mainstream processors is the R5, and on the very low end, the R3.

In the R5 lineup, the competitors for the i7 7700k will be the 1600x and 1400x. With the 1600x you get 6c/12t which will fare better than an i7 7700k in anything that uses more than 4 cores and will have near single-threaded parity for 259. Not to mention that the base and turbo clocks for the 1600x have been revised from 3.3/3.7 to 3.6/4.0. And as we can tell at this moment, AMD may (might not but we'll find out in a couple days time) have nearly identical single thread performance clock for clock with Skylake/Kabylake.

There's also the 4c/8t 1400x for 199 whose clocks from the earlier leaks (the same one understating the clocks of the 1600x) is 3.5/3.9 which I'm willing to bet will increase. That's near identical 7700k performance for 60 percent the price.
You can get a 1400x (200), a B350 motherboard(80-100), and 8gb of DDR4 RAM(50-60), for about the same price as a 7700k (340-350).

AMD isn't trying to reclaim the all around desktop performance throne. That spot is saved for Zen+. It's trying to be as good for far cheaper, or far better in some areas for slightly less cheaper.

The only problem? The R5 doesn't release until Q2. Which, knowing AMD, means the end of June.

>>59106721
It's 15% dude

>>59107312
So... autistic stuff, ok.

>>59107268

Not if you are ordering from an internet site that doesn't have a warehouse in YOUR state. That way, AMericans avoid paying for state sales tax on their internet purchases.

Fucks sakes mate, I am not an American but I still know more about your tax system than you.

>>59107601
>If it was actually good AMD would have already "leaked" benchmarks to boost pre-sales
Kinda like what they've been doing?

>>59108027
Because Intel went full jew in the last years. AMD doesn't even have their own foundry and even like that Intel charges more for 5% higher clockspeeds and 3% more performance each year. Also there s no way they have a new worthy architecture ready, get ready for a tic-toc-toc-toc cycle.

>>59108027
Because AMD invested on a brand new architecture from scratch instead of making "deals" with OEMs and re-selling the same chip performance for 3 years like Intel.

>>59107254
E-penis.

>>59107723
Implying that 1800x used will not cost less than $500.

>>59106559
lol too late

>>59106430
no

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>>59106430
IS RYZEN GOOD FOR MINING SHITCOINS?

>>59109818
>CPU mining
No.

>>59108027
Because Intel's business model has reached a dead end. They can't afford running their fabs anymore just by selling CPUs and they can't expand into non-CPU markets quick enough to pay for their fabs.

People don't realise prices in Aus include GST

Murika doesn't advertise with the tax included

>>59109836
>Murika doesn't advertise with the tax included
Why are americans so fucking retarded?
Do they have to tip the website and the delivery man, too?

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>>59109833
>not CPU mining
It's like you hate quality alternativecoins

>>59109839
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's because tax varies from state to state.

>>59109620
Only cinebench. Everything else is under NDA until preorders ship out.

>>59109839
there is no federal tax, you fucking European dipshit

>>59109851

That's part of it. Some states don't pay taxes from online orders.

>>59109908
I'm not European though.
I just don't understand why the hell you fuckfaces put up with hidden prices all over the place.
Whenever I go anywhere, and I see something is being advertised for $20, I can be fucking sure that it's actually $20.
No hidden tax bullshit, no required "tipping" or any bullshit. Also, if I'm paying in cash, I can make the transaction a lot faster, as I can get the exact change out beforehand, without having to work shit out.

>>59109937
Well, I agree with you and I'd prefer to have the full price stated everywhere. I'd also prefer to never be expected to tip anyone under any circumstance.

How do you say Ryzen?

>>59109955
Poo-in-loo

SHIIIIIIIIIIIL

>>59109951
I think if you tried to tip anyone in my country (New Zealand), I'm think most people would think you're being patronising and reject it.

>>59109955
Rai-Zen.
I guess some people might say it like "risen", but that seems stupid to me.

>>59109937
tax is hidden because the most common way you'll see a price listed is in an advertisement
advertisements circulate to dozens of counties at a time, and each county can set its own sales tax
it would take a lot of extra space to show the counties at 3% the ones at 4.5%, or 5%, 5.5%, 7.5%, 8.5%, etc
it doesn't make much sense inside of stores to have it absent though, because once you're inside the tax is kind of a locked value

tipping is just a custom that you wind up looking like a jerk for not following

Daily reminder that Ryzen is just a glorified version of AMD's jaguar architecture.

>>59110007
>tipping is just a custom that you wind up looking like a jerk for not following
That's just because it's a retarded social norm. It doesn't mean that it doesn't make sense, or isn't annoying.

>>59110024
Daily reminder that this anon doesn't know what he's talking about.

>>59110030
>It doesn't mean that it doesn't make sense, or isn't annoying.
yeah it doesn't make sense but i can't say it annoys me personally

it's a custom, customs are weird, and disobeying customs offends people that observe them
customs are common all over the world, be ready to embrace the dumb quirks if you want to have a good time somewhere

>>59110089
You're just a stupid shit-eater that doesn't know any better.

>>59110117
you sound very cultured, enlightened, educated, and wealthy

>>59110024
The whole point of zen is that it's not based on old architectures, they made it from zero.

>>59107254
Compiling large C++ projects and running virtual machines for deployment testing of those projects. Also 3D content creation and gaming.

>>59107254
4K @ 60 HEVC porn

>> Ryzen 7 1700, the cheapest version, costs same as i7-7700k
>> 3GHz vs 4.2GHz
>> 8cores vs 4cores

if there were much consumer software that makes good use of multicore, Ryzen would be an option.

But current software, especially gaymens, needs single core power.

I'd go with an intel if I had to choose

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>>59109587
>get presented with arguments
>*autistic screeching*

>>59109587
That's not autistics stuff. It's basic.

>>59109877
Nope. Shilluinus is getting his, a few others pre launch.

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>>59110435
Stop living in the past. Modern games like cores more than Ghz.

>>59110560
That heavily dependent on the game. Most games I personally play don't even support more than 4 cores. Well, guess my trusty 3770k is gonna do for a couple more years.

>>59110435
>But current software, especially gaymens, needs single core power.

Maybe 2 generations ago.

last generation had plenty of 4 core min games, due to consoles.

This generation the two main consoles are 8 cores. This will drive games to utilize them, just like last generation with 4.

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>>59110569
which games are those and are they even limited by the CPU?

If you actually take a look at games released in the last 18-24months you will find a large number of them liking "moar cores" and actually being quiet quite demanding on the CPU.

>>59110606
>>59110435

It's kind of moot, ryzen beats kaby at ipc.

http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-1700x-benchmarks-leaked-beats-kaby-lake-ipc/

>yuropoors pay 20% more for all PC hardware so they can get 'free' healthcare which they wont be able to utilize by the time they're old because they'll be a bankrupt shithole caliphate by then

U S A

>>59110616
>unironically quoting currytech
Back to /v/, tourist

>>59110756
>amerilards pay 10% more than the marked price for goods plus an additional 20% tip so they can sell their house if they get terminally ill because they didn't read the small print on their """"health insurance""" while they were electing a senile reality TV star as president
U S A
U S A
U S A

>>59110892
I'm from Europe and this is the most retarded post I've seen today. Back to >>>/reddit/

>>59110989
Thanks m8 I tried. Glad you responded.

>>59107254

Gaymen and cad

>>59107254

Gaming&GIS&cad, stuff like that. Althought not going to upgrade from my ultimate value xeon e3-1231

>>59107723
>being this stupid

>>59110756
I hate living in this shithole. The tax rate is fucking 60%

Would a Seasonic S12II 620W (SS-620GB) PSU be suitable for a Ryzen build? I mean, do the motherboards have any new weird power connections or requirements?

>>59106567
Brazil reporting. In my state (RS), the 1700X costs 546.45 USD (1700 BRL. Haha).

>>59106430
Redpill? You want the real redpill here? Here it is:

You're probably not the kind of person who really needs a top of the line CPU. You feel the need to buy the most expensive shit because of your country's consumerist attitudes and marketing made by people who have no real idea of what they're selling, targeted at people just like you. In fact, you could probably get away with a mid-tier, 2 generation old CPU and have more than enough computational power. Quite frankly, you'd probably be better off with a 2 generation old CPU, because it would have better linux driver support, still work with Windows 10 and cost less money.

Unless you know that you have work that would need all that computational power, it's going to be wasted on you, and do you know how I know that you're not going to use it? Because you're here on /g/, asking about in super generic terms. If it was something you needed, you'd already know and you'd understand the differences between Ryzen and Intel's chips because it would actually matter to your work.

>>59110431
This desu

>>59113307
Not that guy here.
It looks like it's finally time to upgrade my X6 1100T/16GB. Eight full cores, plus 64GB with ECC possible. Please take all my money.

>>59113356
see >>59113252

poor AyyMDs.

>>59113373
Oh shit. Well, time to hold a bit more.
Thanks for the info.

'It's upsetting to have to say, but should be said. As an IT Director I have already been approached by an Intel representative to discuss the "special promotions" and "Incentive rebates" that they are willing to offer me for purchasing exclusively Intel powered servers. I was not well received when I explained that I would not be purchasing anything until I see the benchmarks of the new Ryzen (naples) core and compare the cost-to-performance ratio. It was at that point they made it very clear that they would go to great lengths from a financial standpoint to incentivize me to NOT purchase AMD chips.

These are the tactics that were used back in the day that AMD had feared would be used again. Intel offered "loyalty rebates" and other clever promotions to hide the fact that they were paying customers to lock out the competition. I sincerely hope that other IT Directors and all in IT in general do what's best for the industry and choose based off of what's best for the consumer and their environment. The rebates are nice and all, but if we continue to hurt AMD for a small rebate, we destroy AMD's ability to compete and enable Intel to continue their "Tick-Tock" releases and oppressive pricing.

Be aware folks, Intel is scared and is already looking to use their weight and $'s to NOT out innovate, but to obstruct competitions ability to enter the marketplace. Why else would they be contacting and attempting to "Incentivize" customers well before the launch of AMD's server chips in Q2-Q3? '

Need I say more?

>>59113396
Considering >>59113252, I'm very, very disappointed. It's impossible to get server motherboards in my country. How are they better than Intel now? I feel betrayed.

>>59107102
By not having to rely on "le gamer aesthetics" to get poor people thinking they bought some high quality cpu

>>59113396
>Need I say more?
>>59113530